SuperMG Posted Thursday at 09:05 AM Posted Thursday at 09:05 AM On 5/18/2026 at 5:23 PM, FrancoTecno said: You mean, the RTX 2000 Ada need 4g decode to work? For Aetina it was the case for their Ampere and Ada cards. Maybe PCP is using the same VBIOS as Aetina? For X-Vsion it's different. I saw the GPU-Z screenshots and the GPU was outputting in DP without 4G decode enabled in the SBIOS.
Nizmeïster Posted Thursday at 10:24 AM Author Posted Thursday at 10:24 AM After selling my GT60 Haswell 16F4 V 1.1, I’m still going to get back into a few experiments with a 16F3 that I managed to repair. For now, it’s running an i7-3920XM / 32GB HyperX 1866 MHz / GTX 1060. I’d like to manage to install something in it that performs better than a Quadro RTX 3000 maybe a Quadro RTX 5000? But these cards seem impossible to find now, or out of stock... I might consider an RTX 3060, but I assume that hasn’t been tested yet. The 4060 could work in the GT60 16F4, with the known fan issues and no external display output. Maybe the Ampere models could work better...
SuperMG Posted Thursday at 10:51 AM Posted Thursday at 10:51 AM 25 minutes ago, Nizmeïster said: After selling my GT60 Haswell 16F4 V 1.1, I’m still going to get back into a few experiments with a 16F3 that I managed to repair. For now, it’s running an i7-3920XM / 32GB HyperX 1866 MHz / GTX 1060. I’d like to manage to install something in it that performs better than a Quadro RTX 3000 maybe a Quadro RTX 5000? But these cards seem impossible to find now, or out of stock... I might consider an RTX 3060, but I assume that hasn’t been tested yet. The 4060 could work in the GT60 16F4, with the known fan issues and no external display output. Maybe the Ampere models could work better... I have a Dell Precision M6700 Red Covet with RTX 5000 16GB if you want with the 120Hz 3D screen. No fan problems and the RTX 4070 and 4080 worked in this laptop with the backlight mod.
Nizmeïster Posted Thursday at 11:06 AM Author Posted Thursday at 11:06 AM When I mentioned the fans, it’s actually an EC firmware issue that likely doesn’t properly detect the 4060, probably due to an incorrect temperature sensor report over SMBus. But to me, the biggest issue still remains external display support...
SuperMG Posted Thursday at 11:17 AM Posted Thursday at 11:17 AM 10 minutes ago, Nizmeïster said: When I mentioned the fans, it’s actually an EC firmware issue that likely doesn’t properly detect the 4060, probably due to an incorrect temperature sensor report over SMBus. But to me, the biggest issue still remains external display support... DP/DP/HDMI/eDP. Same as the RTX 4070 MXM. Works perfectly fine on my M6700 and 7720. I had all the display ports, even the USB-C on the 7720.
Nizmeïster Posted Thursday at 01:28 PM Author Posted Thursday at 01:28 PM In that case, I don’t really understand what’s preventing at least the video outputs from working. Maybe it has something to do with the routing through Optimus. The only GT60 with eDP is the one with the 3K or 4K IPS display, the 16F4 version 3.0 motherboard model. Maybe on that one, with the eDP backlight mod, everything would work properly.
SuperMG Posted Thursday at 01:54 PM Posted Thursday at 01:54 PM 26 minutes ago, Nizmeïster said: In that case, I don’t really understand what’s preventing at least the video outputs from working. Maybe it has something to do with the routing through Optimus. The only GT60 with eDP is the one with the 3K or 4K IPS display, the 16F4 version 3.0 motherboard model. Maybe on that one, with the eDP backlight mod, everything would work properly. Don't use Optimus and LVDS. No one has tried pure dGPU in eDP with a MSI and a new RTX MXM. Maybe this could fix some the issues you mentioned
Nizmeïster Posted Thursday at 04:17 PM Author Posted Thursday at 04:17 PM Specifically for the GT60s, aside from the extremely rare models with 3K or 4K IPS screens, you have no choice but to use Optimus because all the other versions are LVDS. That said, the Quadro RTX 3000 works very well with Optimus, for example. I think a Quadro RTX 5000 could do the same with a mod to the heatsink. The RTX 4060 was properly routed with Optimus, and gaming performance was very good — the gain compared to the Quadro RTX 3000 was huge despite the CPU bottleneck. Honestly, if we could just fix this video output issue, and apparently the EC could be manually modified for the fans, then we might not be far from also getting these cards to work properly on older MSI GT60/70 models. I think on the GT72 and later models, it should work with the eDP mod though.
FrancoTecno Posted Thursday at 11:44 PM Posted Thursday at 11:44 PM 12 hours ago, Nizmeïster said: When I mentioned the fans, it’s actually an EC firmware issue that likely doesn’t properly detect the 4060, probably due to an incorrect temperature sensor report over SMBus. But to me, the biggest issue still remains external display support... the same for me, i need external video output at least one from the GPU MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 5/21/2026 at 6:05 AM, SuperMG said: For Aetina it was the case for their Ampere and Ada cards. Maybe PCP is using the same VBIOS as Aetina? For X-Vsion it's different. I saw the GPU-Z screenshots and the GPU was outputting in DP without 4G decode enabled in the SBIOS. dont makes too much sense that video outputs depends of 4G Above decoding, what brands sell MXM cards for individual use? i sent request to PNY, Aetina and PCP and i dont receive any type of reply. at the moment only x-vsion and zrt replied me MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago my msi gt60 is LVDS with optimus. the aetina gtx 1060 have DP/DP/HDMI/eDP. and the gt60 1.0 rev uses port C for HDMI and port D for DP output. in my case, the eDP is carrying my external 1440p monitor. a curious issue with this is, if i enable pure UEFI mode the bios detect as the integrated display my external monitor. and makes a bug in the iGPU that makes it give error 43 in windows. the only solution is to disconnect the external monitor before powering on the nb and connect it after. MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
SuperMG Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 12 minutes ago, FrancoTecno said: dont makes too much sense that video outputs depends of 4G Above decoding, what brands sell MXM cards for individual use? i sent request to PNY, Aetina and PCP and i dont receive any type of reply. at the moment only x-vsion and zrt replied me It makes sense. It happened to me. Without 4G decode or without disabling the legacy OPROM (pure UEFI VBIOS), the GPU won't post and the laptop will throw an error and stay stuck in the pre-post. Aetina can sell individual but the price is very expensive and you need a SBIOS with 4G decode to use them. ZRT, X-VSION, ENBIK sells to individual, sadly their RTX 4080 and RTX 4090 have eDP in port D but it's disabled once the drivers are loaded. Only way is to override the EDID. Another way (which seems impossible from now), it's to find a VBIOS that has eDP enabled and doesn't disable once the drivers are loaded. The best cards without any issues are RTX 4070, RTX 3080, RTX A5000 (needs testing) and A5500 (needs testing) since they have eDP or DP in DP_D and they aren't disabled. Yes DP output works in eDP screen because the HPD data is in DisplayPort protocol.
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago in fact, i get the MSI logo and all the bios image with the external monitor since it believes its the internal display MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, FrancoTecno said: my msi gt60 is LVDS with optimus. the aetina gtx 1060 have DP/DP/HDMI/eDP. and the gt60 1.0 rev uses port C for HDMI and port D for DP output. in my case, the eDP is carrying my external 1440p monitor. a curious issue with this is, if i enable pure UEFI mode the bios detect as the integrated display my external monitor. and makes a bug in the iGPU that makes it give error 43 in windows. the only solution is to disconnect the external monitor before powering on the nb and connect it after. or, using UEFI-CSM MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
SuperMG Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Older Aetina cards didn't need 4G decode enabled in the SBIOS. Anything Pascal and above aren't compatible with the LVDS output. It's eDP/DP for internal. Yes if you got your external monitor working with "eDP" on DP_D, it's a good sign that the card displays using the Display Port protocol. If I was you, I'll find the eDP cable for your laptop and then study the output pins of the cable and determine if it can do 1080p, 1440p, 3k, etc...
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, SuperMG said: Older Aetina cards didn't need 4G decode enabled in the SBIOS. Anything Pascal and above aren't compatible with the LVDS output. It's eDP/DP for internal. Yes if you got your external monitor working with "eDP" on DP_D, it's a good sign that the card displays using the Display Port protocol. If I was you, I'll find the eDP cable for your laptop and then study the output pins of the cable and determine if it can do 1080p, 1440p, 3k, etc... my goal is to upgrade this gtx 1060 anyway, the goal is an RTX card. actually the monitor is being carried with the eDP output at 2560x1440 165Hz MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
SuperMG Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, FrancoTecno said: my goal is to upgrade this gtx 1060 anyway, the goal is an RTX card. actually the monitor is being carried with the eDP output at 2560x1440 165Hz It's actually better to get an RTX card to work internally. Please find the eDP cable for this laptop or make one by studying the schematics. It's just wires and connectors, no chips in the cables.
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SuperMG said: It's actually better to get an RTX card to work internally. Please find the eDP cable for this laptop or make one by studying the schematics. It's just wires and connectors, no chips in the cables. edp cable doesnt exist, it uses an eDP to LVDS converter internally, in theory you can quit it and modify some traces to make it eDP but its a high risk of making it MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago actually my best upgrade option is to buy a quadro rtx 3000 and make the 12gb vram mod. because i like a stable gpu with 8gb of vram or more. this is my only main system. isnt an auxiliary laptop so i need the most safe option to upgrade MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
SuperMG Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 8 minutes ago, FrancoTecno said: actually my best upgrade option is to buy a quadro rtx 3000 and make the 12gb vram mod. because i like a stable gpu with 8gb of vram or more. this is my only main system. isnt an auxiliary laptop so i need the most safe option to upgrade Or get the Quadro RTX A4000 for 350€. 16GB VRAM, RTX 3070 level. It's a DP/HDMI/HDMI/DP card. RTX A3000 12GB is 250€ but it's low TDP. (no backlight mod adapter included on both) For the Turing RTX 3000, I don't think there are 12GB modded VBIOS for it.
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 6 minutes ago, SuperMG said: Or get the Quadro RTX A4000 for 350€. 16GB VRAM, RTX 3070 level. It's a DP/HDMI/HDMI/DP card. RTX A3000 12GB is 250€ but it's low TDP. For the Turing RTX 3000, I don't think there are 12GB modded VBIOS for it. 1- quadro rtx a4000 dont fit with the GPU holes. this laptop dont use a X bracket and it have the supports soldered into the motherboard, follows the original mxm 3.0 type B format. the gpu die its on the left 2 - for vram upgrade isnt necessary to find a VBIOS, you need to solder a double density vram modules and change a resistor strap to make them working MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
FrancoTecno Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Just now, FrancoTecno said: 1- quadro rtx a4000 dont fit with the GPU holes. this laptop dont use a X bracket and it has soldered into the motherboard, follows the original mxm 3.0 type B format. the gpu die its on the left 2 - for vram upgrade isnt necessary to find a VBIOS, you need to solder a double density vram modules and change a resistor strap to make them working for example, HP MXM cards dont fit due to a few mm of gpu holes dissalignment MSI GT60 2OC Intel i7 4930MX, GTX 1060, 15.6" FHD (90Hz OC), 32GB RAM, 1TB mSATA RAID 0 (2x512), 1TB HDD, Intel WiFi 7 BE200 Card
SuperMG Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 10 minutes ago, FrancoTecno said: quadro rtx a4000 dont fit with the GPU holes. this laptop dont use a X bracket and it have the supports soldered into the motherboard, follows the original mxm 3.0 type B format. the gpu die its on the left There's always a solution for everything (unless we're talking about Nvidia vbios modding, it's impossible:/). You can do: Custom heatsinks, custom mxm holding, etc.
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