jaybee83 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 6 hours ago, electrosoft said: G2 or is there also a G1 option? ha, for now only G2, im checking what the frequency limit is. booted at 3800 Mhz last night 🤠 i also plan to check where G1 caps out, should be interesting! so yes, u can manually switch gears in the bios 😁 on desktops it seems that 4000 is the point on G1 where things start to get sketchy, so naturally would be lower on a laptop. id expect minimum 3200 on G1, with a bit of luck maybe 3400-3600. Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3000 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 Pulled the trigger on two new bigger power bricks. These should work without nuking my system right? Same plug diameter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 8 hours ago, jaybee83 said: ha, for now only G2, im checking what the frequency limit is. booted at 3800 Mhz last night 🤠 i also plan to check where G1 caps out, should be interesting! so yes, u can manually switch gears in the bios 😁 on desktops it seems that 4000 is the point on G1 where things start to get sketchy, so naturally would be lower on a laptop. id expect minimum 3200 on G1, with a bit of luck maybe 3400-3600. On desktop higher tier chips tend to have better IMCs for 11th and 12th gen so I was thinking a nice 12900k in there in G1 mode would stretch those modules to their limits in G1 mode if the system board is capable of handling it. On desktops for G1 12th gen, it is usually the CPU's IMC that gives up the ghost especially with dual ranked sticks. Running 2x16GB is usually off by a bin to a bin and a half vs single rank sticks. Some garbage early 12900k's couldn't even get pass 3733 on dual rank sticks. My 12900k is running 2x16GB dual rank sticks at 4133 on my Strix D4. It will boot 4200 but errors. I never did go back in and set G2 to see if it was the sticks. Awesome work bro! Keep it coming. 🙂 1 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 1 hour ago, GT3000 said: Pulled the trigger on two new bigger power bricks. These should work without nuking my system right? Same plug diameter. If compatible, your system will draw as much as it needs. I am not sure what the board draw limitations (if any) that are in place and I don't think we've seen a full bore 12900k + 3070ti load placed on a 330w before. Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 2 hours ago, GT3000 said: Pulled the trigger on two new bigger power bricks. These should work without nuking my system right? Same plug diameter. niiice u got the 330W Delta with our plug! when are u getting it in? please report back on how much wattage u can pull in peak with that 🙂 VERY curious! 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: On desktop higher tier chips tend to have better IMCs for 11th and 12th gen so I was thinking a nice 12900k in there in G1 mode would stretch those modules to their limits in G1 mode if the system board is capable of handling it. On desktops for G1 12th gen, it is usually the CPU's IMC that gives up the ghost especially with dual ranked sticks. Running 2x16GB is usually off by a bin to a bin and a half vs single rank sticks. Some garbage early 12900k's couldn't even get pass 3733 on dual rank sticks. My 12900k is running 2x16GB dual rank sticks at 4133 on my Strix D4. It will boot 4200 but errors. I never did go back in and set G2 to see if it was the sticks. Awesome work bro! Keep it coming. 🙂 preliminary results: G1 tops out at 3500 Mhz, G2 at 3800 Mhz (both run error free in TM5 1usmus but so far only with auto timings, havent tightened them yet). Toms Hardware did a review on my sticks and they found they could clock them up to 4000 Mhz at 1.35V, so that leaves the cpu IMC and the mobo itself. besides, so far ive only tested two sticks, ill check and see if there are any slight differences among the four sticks (two are in my machine, but they barely get up to 3333 Mhz without errors) to try and push to 3600 on G1 and 4000 on G2. wouldnt that be something? 4000 Mhz DDR4 in a laptop 🤠 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3000 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 So seems to be working great. Here is the results running Furmark's QHD bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 9 hours ago, GT3000 said: So seems to be working great. Here is the results running Furmark's QHD bench. cool man, thanks for the data! can u go ahead and try running firestrike extreme or ultra stress test for like 10 min? furmark has the tendency to artificially throttle down the gpu so we might not be getting the actual peaks. also, up the HWInfo polling to as fast as it can go at 50ms so we can catch any quick peaks, as well 🙂 so far it looks like its working, but doesnt provide much more power headroom vs the stock psu, as seen in the max system power at just 234W... Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3000 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 16 hours ago, jaybee83 said: cool man, thanks for the data! can u go ahead and try running firestrike extreme or ultra stress test for like 10 min? furmark has the tendency to artificially throttle down the gpu so we might not be getting the actual peaks. also, up the HWInfo polling to as fast as it can go at 50ms so we can catch any quick peaks, as well 🙂 so far it looks like its working, but doesnt provide much more power headroom vs the stock psu, as seen in the max system power at just 234W... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, GT3000 said: ~161w on the GPU? Hmmmm, nice. ~106w peak on CPU Total system power = ~241w So the system has a draw limit by design? Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted August 24, 2022 Author Share Posted August 24, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 3:12 PM, jaybee83 said: niiice u got the 330W Delta with our plug! when are u getting it in? please report back on how much wattage u can pull in peak with that 🙂 VERY curious! preliminary results: G1 tops out at 3500 Mhz, G2 at 3800 Mhz (both run error free in TM5 1usmus but so far only with auto timings, havent tightened them yet). Toms Hardware did a review on my sticks and they found they could clock them up to 4000 Mhz at 1.35V, so that leaves the cpu IMC and the mobo itself. besides, so far ive only tested two sticks, ill check and see if there are any slight differences among the four sticks (two are in my machine, but they barely get up to 3333 Mhz without errors) to try and push to 3600 on G1 and 4000 on G2. wouldnt that be something? 4000 Mhz DDR4 in a laptop 🤠 G1 topping out at 3500 reeks of the system board but that can be fleshed out with a better CPU with a known better IMC real quick. The variance on IMCs is pretty brutal. Two 12100f's I tested. One gave up the ghost at >3200 (which is what it is rated) and the other 3600. At these lower tier speeds overall, I would definitely opt for G1 when all is said and done. 1 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 6 hours ago, electrosoft said: ~161w on the GPU? Hmmmm, nice. ~106w peak on CPU Total system power = ~241w So the system has a draw limit by design? yep thats what im suspecting. planning to check with premamod and a higher tier psu at some point, we definitely have thermal headroom on the gpu for higher sustained / more stable clocks. cpu will be tricky, especially with the upcoming 13900K id wager haha. 5 hours ago, electrosoft said: G1 topping out at 3500 reeks of the system board but that can be fleshed out with a better CPU with a known better IMC real quick. The variance on IMCs is pretty brutal. Two 12100f's I tested. One gave up the ghost at >3200 (which is what it is rated) and the other 3600. At these lower tier speeds overall, I would definitely opt for G1 when all is said and done. yep, agreed. im currently testing all possible combinations of ram stick pairs since the G.Skill 3800 kit i have is 4x8GB. so far done with 3 out of 6 possible pairings, no luck yet in breaking the 3500/3800 barriers for G1/G2. what i HAVE noticed though, is that different pairs need different training times to reach 3500/G1, i.e. the very first pairing took about 3 minutes bootloop training, whereas the last one i did last night took 12-13 minutes to finally boot. AIDA64 testing also showed significant performance differences, so im guessing tertiary timings play a big role in this regard. so based on this, even if none of the pairs differ in max Mhz achieved, ill still check their respective performance numbers to make sure i get the best pairing for subtimings. and yes, i also suspect its a combo of cpu imc and mobo (hopefully more of the former!). ur input makes me hopeful that it is indeed the former. Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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electrosoft Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Prema said: Hide contents Now we're talkin..... 🙂 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 hours ago, Prema said: Hide contents hmmmm... that looks familiar somehow 😁 another quick update on the RAM: i now tested all four sticks individually and determined that 3 out of the 4 are able to do 3800 Mhz on Gear 2, with 2 out of the 4 capable of 3500 Mhz at Gear 1. now to check and see the bandwidth / latency on those two and tighten up all the subtimings as far as possible. 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 crappedy-crap, next hard brick and programmer flash incoming later today! on the bright side, bandwidth and latency numbers are heading towards +60% above the SPD at 2400 Mhz 🙂 not done with tightening of subtimings yet though (will update with exact performance numbers once done). also, this disassembly will give me a chance to do a proper LM reapply, the current one is suboptimal at best.... 1 2 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olenbt Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 man kinda let down it is only 15". good thing prema is still at this otherwise we stuck for good 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 13 hours ago, olenbt said: man kinda let down it is only 15". good thing prema is still at this otherwise we stuck for good yep, lets hope nextgen clevos will bring something other than the all-intel X270 BGA abomination 😵 1 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clamibot Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 4 hours ago, jaybee83 said: yep, lets hope nextgen clevos will bring something other than the all-intel X270 BGA abomination 😵 I have no idea why Clevo went full retard on their flagship model. The X270 is worse than the X170 in every way. There is absolutely zero reason for anyone to buy it. I'm really hoping for a 17 inch Z790 + Raptor Lake based sucessor to the X170. 3 1 AlienyHackbook: Alienware M17X R5 | i7-4930MX | GTX 1060 | 32GB DDR3L Kingston HyperX @ 2133 MHz CL 12 | MacOS Sierra 10.12.5 | Windows 10 LTSC | Hackintoshes Rule! Desktop Killer: Clevo X170SM-G | i9-10900K | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix @ 3200 MHz CL 16 | Windows 10 LTSC | Slayer Of Desktops Sagattarius A: Custom Built Desktop | i9-10900K | RX 6950 XT | 32GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws @ 4200 MHz CL 15 | Windows 10 LTSC | Ultimate Performance Desktop With Cryo Cooling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cylix Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Sadly i think DTRs are done, we will not see one anymore. The mass wants thin and light garbage. And in this day of economical problems and bad logistics no manufacturer will spend his resources for such a niche product.😪 2 7950X3D| Zotac 4090 AMP Extreme Airo| MSI MPG B650 Edge Wifi| Lian Li Galahad 360 V2| 48GB GSkillTrident Z RGB 7600|Kingston KC3000 2TB| Fury Renegade 2TB| Lian Li O11 Dynamic Evo| Corsair HX1500i| Samsung Odyssey G9 Neo Asus Zephyrus G15 (Ryzen 9 6900HS + RTX3080) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Clamibot said: I have no idea why Clevo went full retard on their flagship model. The X270 is worse than the X170 in every way. There is absolutely zero reason for anyone to buy it. I'm really hoping for a 17 inch Z790 + Raptor Lake based sucessor to the X170. especially considering that Arc is now a dead platform....yay....but lets see, maybe theyll do a 180 and discard the X270 before it even actually releases? lulz 59 minutes ago, cylix said: Sadly i think DTRs are done, we will not see one anymore. The mass wants thin and light garbage. And in this day of economical problems and bad logistics no manufacturer will spend his resources for such a niche product.😪 agreed, in current times DTRs and monster desktops are absolute luxuries to be talking about or considering spending crazy amounts of money on... (says the guy getting ready to spend a buttload of greens on his new build 😅) 1 2 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
win32asmguy Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 On 8/22/2022 at 10:30 AM, GT3000 said: Pulled the trigger on two new bigger power bricks. These should work without nuking my system right? Same plug diameter. I was curious where you purchased these bricks? Eurocom wants 250USD for these which is quite a bit. Desktop - 12900KS, 32GB DDR5-6400 C32, 2TB WD SN850, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Clevo X170SM - 10900K LTX SP106, 32GB DDR4-2933 CL17, 4TB WD SN850X, RTX 3080 mobile, 17.3 inch FHD 144hz, System76 open source firmware, Windows 10 Pro 22H2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT3000 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 5:17 PM, win32asmguy said: I was curious where you purchased these bricks? Eurocom wants 250USD for these which is quite a bit. Sorry for the late reply. https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804210824372.html?spm=a2g0o.order_detail.0.0.4af2f19cR2efu5&gatewayAdapt=glo2usa&_randl_shipto=US Can confirm they work great. There might be cheaper options now but this is pretty affordable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1610ftw Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 On 9/12/2022 at 6:23 PM, Clamibot said: I have no idea why Clevo went full retard on their flagship model. The X270 is worse than the X170 in every way. There is absolutely zero reason for anyone to buy it. Only reason I can think about is that Intel footed much of the bill. The X270 is a joke to the serious gamer, a joke to X170 owners who want a modular and (theoretically) upgradable successor and it also does not appeal to the thin and light crowd so I strongly doubt that Clevo would be so stupid to spend much money on such a misfire. On 9/12/2022 at 6:23 PM, Clamibot said: I'm really hoping for a 17 inch Z790 + Raptor Lake based sucessor to the X170. Amen to that. Looking at Dell, HP and Lenovo having modular cards it leaves a very bitter taste that there wasn't already a proper Clevo DTR in this generation with everything including the 3080 Ti being available, at least for others. Clevo missed a huge opportunity. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1610ftw Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 On 8/28/2022 at 5:52 PM, Prema said: Reveal hidden contents LOL @ LilShit 😄 Very similar to my first thought when I discovered which platform Clevo had selected to allow use of the mighty 12900K while making a mockery of their X series that should have had that capability instead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybee83 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 hours ago, 1610ftw said: Amen to that. Looking at Dell, HP and Lenovo having modular cards it leaves a very bitter taste that there wasn't already a proper Clevo DTR in this generation with everything including the 3080 Ti being available, at least for others. Clevo missed a huge opportunity. As mentioned before, Clevo actually had everything ready for a 3080 Ti MXM, but Nvidia wouldnt let them go through with it. The Green Goblin at its best, just ask EVGA 😅 2 1 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-24) AMD Ryzen 9 7950X (TG High Perf. IHS) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme / MSI Geforce RTX 4090 Suprim X / Teamgroup T-Force Delta RGB DDR5-8200 2x24 GB / Seagate Firecuda 530 4 TB / 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4 TB / Arctic Liquid Freezer II 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 intake) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2 TG (3x Arctic P12 A-RGB intake / 4x Arctic P14 A-RGB exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 A-RGB RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-24) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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