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Yeah for now I’m just having fun testing CPU’s. It really is extremely fun though. I have discovered that the MSI Force2 rating is legit, and it doesn’t lie. It will save you a lot of time on testing. Even though I have tested each CPU independently. I’ve tested: 13900KF(X238L435)Force134 Newegg Bios VID 0.959V 13900K X241M665 Force 124 Bestbuy Bios VID 0.927V 13900KF X238L101 Force 149 Newegg Bios VID 0.989V 13900K X241M888 Force 143 Bestbuy Bios VID 0.972V The lower the better 100%. This motherboard doesn’t lie lol. I hope MSI Improves on this more.

Yeah for now I’m just having fun testing CPU’s. It really is extremely fun though. I have discovered that the MSI Force2 rating is legit, and it doesn’t lie. It will save you a lot of time on testing. Even though I have tested each CPU independently. It’s crazy how some chips are really super good or super bad. I’ve tested: 13900KF(X238L435)Force134 Newegg Bios VID 0.959V 13900K X241M665 Force 124 Bestbuy Bios VID 0.927V 13900KF X238L101 Force 149 Newegg Bios VID 0.989V 13900K X241M888 Force 143 Bestbuy Bios VID 0.972V The lower the better 100%. This motherboard doesn’t lie lol. I hope MSI Improves on this more.

I’m sorry, I’ve been extreme busy with work stresses and testing CPU’s in general. I’ve sold the processor X241M860 and it’s going out today. It was an incredible sample, and it has really set the bar for trying to find one even better. I don’t even have those benchmarks you mentioned, but I was planning on downloading them when I had time. I was planning on keeping Batch X241M860 I had found my chip lol. But people message me with stuff like “Name your price/Not kidding” etc. And I end up falling right in hook line and sinker Anyways, my newest sample isn’t as good. But it’s still an okay performer at just slightly above average.

I’m testing my 4th 13900K today. Batch X241M888. This chip is a Force2 =143 Nothing spectacular, but maybe average or slightly above average. The ring is average, the E-Cores are average x45 maybe x46 and that’s it, and it loves to use power if you’re clocking it high on all cores lol! But after all of that! It’s still a dang 13900K, and I have it setup at 5.7Ghz on (8) cores, 6.0Ghz (4) Cores, and 6.2Ghz on (2) cores. YES! 6.2Ghz on (2) cores even this chip. While the VID’s may be slightly through the roof lol, it’s still a very reasonable CPU I have the LLC maxed out at LLC #8 so load voltages drop down drastically. I can definitely rock this everyday, or anyone could honestly. I mean, they all perform within 1-3% anyways regardless of how good that SP rating is haha. (This chip ain’t nothing like my other chip though, but it’s still a very solid chip and it surprises me how great just an average 13900K really is) I’m giving all the average guys out there with regular 13900K’s some love today!! These CPU’s are really great regardless how high or low a number may be.

I think it was because it’s just the XMP 7200 profile so it holds out a little better under higher heat. When I run 7600 it’s much more sensitive! I’ve gotta stay under 42C

Crazy how HOT DDR5 gets! I ran my DDR5@7200XMP CL34 super high tREFI@262,000 tFAW@16 only 1.400V This was just a optimized XMP profile. I ran full 32GB coverage with 32 iterations of HCI Memtest (NO FANS lol) It finally gave out with a BSOD at 59C memory temps! Too hot to hold your hand on.

Z690 Dark for sale on the OC forums for $350! That’s tempting, but I’m actually good. I’ve already got my 13900K and DDR5 dialed in very well on my Unify-X.

You can run CPU VDDQ up to 1.5V for daily. And upwards of 1.6V for benching is perfectly fine. This is essentially just a signal voltage, so it won’t harm anything. CPU VDD2 is the CPU IMC And it can be ran at 1.400V daily, or about 1.450V for benching. I personally do not exceed 1.400V on this one. Hope this helps.

Man, that is pretty much Heavy OCed 2080Ti performance “Just about” this tells me at 1080P/1440P they probably really would perform equivalent. Now I’m seeing why you kept it. Also, that physics score is monstrous from a 12900KS. Has me wondering what a 13900K does in this situation.

I have been tuning a little on my new 13900K. And it is something for sure! PS: CEN is messaging me again. (Not kidding) (AUTO Voltage) (Auto LLC) (P-Cores) 62,62,61,61,58,58,58,58 (E-Cores) 47,47,47,47,47,47,47,47 47,47,47,47,47,47,47,47 (Ring/Cache) @5,100Mhz

Geekbench is excellent for triggering a failure on a high boosting single cores, you’ll lock up in seconds. Which was the only thing I was really worried about. But I was just running Geekbench to see what it scored primarily. If I run Prime 95 non-avx, or Cinebench it’s just gonna clock down to 5.8 or 5.9 and chug right along no problem at those lower clocks. What I have been testing is maxing out all the boost ratios, and making sure those super high boosting cores are stable and steady and boosting as high as I can run them. And so far after hours and hours of testing, I have settled on 62,62,61,61,58,58 for the P-Cores with a X51 cache, and 45 E-Cores. I am actually using an adaptive VF curve voltage. This chip has got some silicon that’s for sure! I got my 13900KS already. 😎

Testing 6.2Ghz Boost with 5.9Ghz all core UPDATE, this is my new daily profile. I see a lot of people running this test, so here goes. Geekbench 5. Yes, its SUPER STABLE! I love it. This is a Pre- 13900KS all the way. CRAZY FAST single threaded performance, that's for sure.

It’s just 6.1Ghz on a (2) core load. It’s just flipping between the cores that are loaded. 5.8Ghz all core load. But yes I can run the test. I’ll download it and report back.

I’m not running 6.1 all cores. I’m only running 6.1 boost on (2) cores. As for the E-Cores, I have not even touched them yet. I’ve been working, and I’ve only had a little time here and there to tinker with the cpu.

Youtube will fix the quality momentarily, it’s always bad right after it’s uploaded. I have not touched the E-Cores yet. I just set 45 E-Cores, and 51 cache and left it. I have not tried to go past 45.

Playing with new daily settings!

I haven’t really compared this CryoFuze stuff to anything yet though. Brand new 13900K, with a brand new paste, and it just runs really cool on my setup. I could potentially swap it out with Kryonaut Extreme pink stuff, and possibly see a little temp reduction lol.

I spread the paste really thin on the CPU IHS first, then I install the CPU in the socket. Press down on my waterblock in the very center, then I lightly turn thumbscrews until they just stop, then cross snug pattern, then cross snug firmly again. Never used MX5 before.

I am running Coolermaster CryoFuze, this stuff has a 14.0 M/k-w rating. And it works absolutely amazing. Spreading it is easy, and it just works. I’m sold on it now. I am using it on this new 13900K I’ve got, and my temps are better than my prior 13900KF which was delidded. Now, this chip uses less power and less voltage. But either way it’s great paste! I have used them all. Kryonaut Extreme works well too, but it’s just too expensive and it’s not any better than Coolermaster Cryo Fuze. This is straight up “Gamer boy” thermal paste. But, what can I do? it just works really good.

I don’t think it’s volts. It is the voltage combined with the load you’re running. Intel says even 1.655-1.720V is perfectly within spec, but at only like 80-100 amps lol. Think about it this way. I don’t want to burn my hand on the oven. I can hold my hand 2” away from the burner on low without getting burned. Or I can hold my hand 6” away on medium. It’s all about staying inside that range of power draw without damaging it. From what the engineers are saying, the higher the load, the lower your Vcore must be. The lower the VCore the higher your load and amperage can be. Gaming at 5.6-5.7 on my 11900K@1.600V totally harmless low amperage, lower power. Running Cinebench or Prime 95 at the same voltage? Probably instant Degradation. But just sending even 1.650+ and gaming or working using light apps definitely won’t harm your CPU at all.

I’m gonna say that you’re very good with maintaining low temps, and you help prevent degradation probably. Maybe not the average person though. I hit my 11900K super hard too. Heavy power, heavy amperage. But, it never went above 75C with heavy benching. And realistically stayed well below 50C on a daily basis. It’s as good as ever. And now it’s living on a AIO@5.4 which is just laughable lol. Maybe it’s not true and it’s all BS, but a lot of these engineers responsible for testing etc swear that degradation was a problem even for 12900K’s, and especially 13900K’s now that the power envelope is pushed so high. I don’t know what to believe anymore. Maybe it’s the guys running these long loads for hours on end everyday who are only seeing degradation. I don’t really know what to expect, I just know it’s being thrown around more than ever. I feel like if I keep doing what I’m doing I’ll be fine. And that’s numero #1 (Keep the cpu as cool as possible) is really all I got.

I have another one that will be here Friday. We’ll see how good it is. I trust the Force2 rating for sure though. It is 100% legit. The lower the better and MSI is on to something. This 13900K is really amazing for sure though. It’s just CRAZY efficient. I take caution with these CPU’s now though. They can degrade so easily. Honestly, they really are the hot rod of processors. They are like a precision belted magnum rifle, they call them “Barrel Burners” because after about 80-100 rounds fired, your rifling is gone! These 13900K’s can begin to eat themselves after just a few weeks or even days of heavy benching with 350+ watts load. So, they are really meant to just run stock, finding that minimum voltage for 5.5-5.8Ghz boost is the way to go for long term cool running performance. I’m not gonna push past 300 watts with this one.

You ain’t gonna believe this. I’ll get some stuff up shortly still finding it’s limits here. It’s a ultra low power beast. I’m seriously shocked right now. This thing is walking past the last chip so far in the “Limbo test” UPDATE R23 run 217 watts

BESTBUY 13900K MSI FORCE 2= 124 (With normal ambient water temps) holy crap. it’s 10 points better than my last one. I promise I didn’t sell my soul @Mr. Fox I also noticed a very LOW bios voltage, much lower than my last chip. 😂

THANK YOU! Newegg has literally lost my 13900KF it was sent to Wyoming for some weird reason, and it’s now being re-routed to the correct destination via UPS. 😑 I was planning to get it today as the tracking said, but unfortunately it’s now on the other side of the country. At least the tracking updated today though, because it hasn’t since 11/15/2022. I bought this thing Monday last week from Newegg! 😳 Anyways, I just bought a 13900K at my local Best Buy for pickup “They had (1) in stock”. I need something to use ASAP though. I have important files on my main PC I need to access by today. I hate to buy something and just return it, and I may just keep it especially if it’s a better Force2 rating than my other one coming. But I need a cpu today.