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this. +25% performance jump going from stock to OC. that still "meh" for you @papusan? 😄 here i thought we dont really give a damn about stock performance 😛 and thats not even delidded yet... but yes i still agree that the stock performance is VERY disappointing indeed. AMD put too much focus on efficiency this time around instead of letting their new cpus off the leash. i mean cmon, at this point in time NON-DEFECTIVE cpus are already a win against intel and their still developing 13/14th gen desaster... but of course, even more reason to hold back and play the intel playbook of yesteryear starting with 2nd gen.... ill be holding tight to my setup and see what the 9950X and the X3D variants bring to the table before making a purchasing decision. no rush this time 🙂

yeah i had already seen rumours on that online regarding pricing very comparable to Zen 4. lets hope this is not indicative of non-competitive performance vs. Intel and Zen 4 😄

shoot, had connection issues and my reply got lost.... anyways, long story short: - X670 vs. X870 are basically identical, the latter only has higher-end minimum requirements set by AMD - IO die was stated to be "overall the same" on Zen 5, but that leaves wiggle room for finetuning, i.e. higher real life benefits from higher DDR5 speeds - im expecting improved RAM support to come from the CPUs, not the mobos (notwithstanding 2 DIMM / higher-quality trace boards, but that goes for both X670 and X870) - ive since switched basically all my high-intensive CPU workloads to the GPU, so im more open minded to at least consider the X3D skus this time around. ill take my time and check the reviews first before making a purchase. good thing is, once the X3D chips are released, the regular chips will likely fall in price, so no real loss 🙂 (ill still pull the trigger on the 5090 on launch day tho 😄 wait and see game will be CPU only 😛)

sometime in the 50s or 60s. ud get all the economic boom era, not have to worry about climate change yet, enjoy stable jobs for basically ur whole working career, will be able to afford housing on a single fulltime salary, not have to worry about stuff like fake news or AI deepfakes, etc. BUT still get to enjoy lots of the goodies of the modern era in terms of tech, medicine, ease of travels, etc. only have to be a bit more careful when it comes to lead poisoning and food additives, those still ran rampant lol. but cant have it all i guess hahaha

yup, i have been keeping tabs on P5800X drives popping up on ebay, but damn those prices are just insaaaaaaaanne... ikr...PNY like WTF at first but when Vince explained it, totally makes sense! curious to see what will come out of it 🙂 too bad tho that KP cards are always late to the party, id rather grab a solid 5090 at launch and make the most of it with vbios cross flashes...

yup after this im actually thinking about going the X3D route this time... wanna see what info AMD will provide during their upcoming Tech Day, detailed info so far is scarce for Zen 5 parts.

LOL i seee what ure getting at. but read below. based on current trends in both CPU and GPU, it looks like we are headed into more and more complex territory with regards to theorizing performance metrics just based on specs alone. we started super simple: higher frequency = better then we went down the core road = more cores + IPC + higher frequency = better next we added cache, which became more important (at least in gaming benchmarks) than cores now we are heading into higher fragmentation still, with different core archs / designs, HT alternatives, I/O dies, etc. what im trying to say is: u cannot just state anymore that "more threads via HT is better" or "reach higher frequency = better" or "MOAR CORES = BETTER" etc. same goes for overclocking strats, straightforward set = get will likely be over soon. interesting times ahead!

thats what i was referring to. ure comparing stock zen 5 vs. max OC of your chip 😄

trigger finger is ready, skipping the upcoming X3D parts for higher productivity perf and more tuning flexibility 🙂 love the fact that AM5 support is now extended to 2027+ btw! sooo...ure comparing stock vs. max OC. right 😄 word @launch day facts. u got one side dooming intel for abandoning HT, the other side dooming AMD cuz Intel baby cores have MEGA IPC UPLIFT INCOMING. welp, lets wait and see whats actually up 🙂

dayum sounds like custom work with small volume, otherwise wouldnt make sense to have such pricing attached... any chance u can dig up those aliexpress links? curious to have a looksie 🙂

yup holding steady as u say 😄 keeping an eye out on 14900K / KS silicon on fleabay, K sku can be had for under 440€, which is pretty nice. cheapest KS is at 590€ with price offer option. id be interested to see if the 330W PSU would actually do anything, not that the board is hard limited to a specific max. wattage... whats the highest u were able to pull thus far? also, can you link those custom heatsinks?

well, theyre gonna replace hyperthreding with "rentable units", basically just a different approach to processing multiple threads at the same time. well have to wait and see how good that approach will actually be though.

phew im all about platform longevity, so going AM4 or socket 1700 wouldnt be an option in my book... especially if u want to build it out over time and keep upgrading.

dont mix up mobile 4090 with the full fat desktop verison, worlds of difference. id wait for the 5090, either u can snipe one right at launch (until then ull also have more money saved up) or u can grab a 4090 for much cheaper than now since it will not be top dog anymore 🙂

very cool video, didnt expect to enjoy it so much, has a lot of ASMR vibes hahaha

yup, pretty cut n dry 😛

is this 3080 quick n dirty vs. ur best 3070 result? if so, then thats a very promising lead already at +15-18%!

exactly my thoughts when i saw this thread. then again, STAYING ALIVE is a pretty good motivator if u ask me lulz. id probably move back to asia to switch to rice based dishes for the rest of my life, otherwise i wouldnt be able to fully enjoy the local food here in "wheaty" europe 😄

lol 500 bucks 6 years ago really aint that much for a nice monitor....i mean, uve been using it for 6 years now, so it was worth it right? what should i say, having paid almost 1100 bucks on my monitor about 1.5 years ago 😄 still love it though! damn, this is reaaaally unusual and basically unheard of for Intel. theyve always been a beacon of quality and reliability when it comes to CPUs...

absolutely, dont take any chances with such an expensive monitor 😄

i just cant get comfy with using an OLED display for main D2D usage. From my perspective, it's basically buying hardware with an inbuilt failure switch a.k.a. burn in. especially in my case usage where i need a display for both gaming / media, as well as work, OLED is just not an option = running static elements for 8+ hours per work day. so at least for now: Mini LED with max. number of FALD zones FTW! 🙂

word, ill be judging the Zen 5 cpus based on the expected +70-80% performance boost of the 5090 🙂 so at 4K max i still dont expect much, if any, X3D advantages. the regular review sites cite roughly a +20% uplift going from the 7950X to 7800X3D / 7950X3D in games at 1080p. This advantage dwindles to like 5% at 4K with "high" settings. Set that to Ultra / Max, and those 5% go down even further. so id rather have max multicore performance whenever needed rather than getting 2-3% more fps at 4K 😄

highest real-world ive seen was 1009 MB/s, so the controller is specced for USB 3.2 10 Gbps. internal connection is for M.2 pcie 3.0 x4. i would be careful of those "40%+" claims currently floating around for Zen 5. Id rather expect somewhere in the range of 20+%, still nice bump though! at that bump, the regular 9950X would be roughly equivalent in games to the 7800X3D / 7950X3D, with the subsequent Zen 5 X3D skus likely being more performant as per usual. ill likely just get the regular SKU, especially if its released months ahead of the X3D versions. at 4K maxxed out im gaming 100% gpu bound anyways, so X3D cpus wouldnt have any performance advantage anyways. heck, currently in Alan Wake 2 i am SO gpu bound, that forcing my 7950X to its lowest clocks (sub 3 Ghz) with core parking enabled does NOT change the fps AT ALL when comparing to its max boost config 😄 cpu twiddling its thumbs while waiting on the GPU to plow through the monstrous amounts of data haha. edit: forgot to say - keep us updated on this! pics of the card, specs, planned mods, benchmark results with power data at stock and modded / oced!

that reminds me, might soon be time to upgrade my DIY USB stick from 1TB to 2TB. gotta love those tiny enclosures that take M.2 SSDs in 2242 and 2230 sizes 🙂

haha, i wish! my wife took the first year parental leave after giving birth and receiving up to 67% or 1800€ (whichever is lower) of her regular salary for 12 months. if the father also takes parental leave, he gets an additional two months of the same (which is what i will get). in total, both parents are entitled to up to 3 years each without pay. so yeah, in my case its basically 2 months pocket change plus 10 months unpaid leave. but thats alright, its awesome to be able and take the time to spend with the little one in those precious first years 🙂 and as bro @cylix mentioned, my job will be waiting for me when i get back, so cant be fired in the meantime. as for taxes, yeah, those are crazily high here in Germany. funny enough though, its still cheaper than if we would have stayed in Singapore and paid everything there ourselves (after basically non-existent taxes there). plus, work/life balance is waaaaay better here, so we moved 🙂 no idea if were gonna stay here forever, but for now its the place to be 😄 nice backyard u got there bro @Mr. Fox, mowing the lawn must be a biatch tho! 😄 haha that last pic is american suburbia at its finest 😄