jaybee83

12 hours ago, Csupati said:

Hungary. The tax will be almost the same as the laptop price , so its a hughe problem for eu buyers 😞

whats your import tax in hungary?

@ssj92since its "used hardware" you might wanna put a lower price tag on it for import purposes 😛 after all, the sticker "value" of the package contents doesnt always have to coincide with the selling price 😄 

17 hours ago, Csupati said:

I will dig up the thread,  and paste it here , but its not just an edp connector soldering,  bounch of caps and resistors needed 2 :/, and thats require a technician who has those tiny soldering tools and etc.

ah welp....why cant it just be easy for once? hahaha

17 hours ago, Talon said:

https://www.maxon.net/en/downloads/cinebench-2024-downloads

 

Get benching yall. 
 

edit: Seems very demanding compared to R23. 

damn, even MORE demanding than R23. if this trend keeps up, there wont be a need to use a powervirus like P95 anymore 😄 ill download and test it out once i get home. curious to see which command line instructions still work, sometimes they update the syntax, other times they dont.

any new features / options integrated vs. CB R23?

12 hours ago, electrosoft said:

HUB confirming What GN found about CPU performance in Starfield....it is a very heavy CPU influenced title and Intel rules the roost.

 

Especially the 5800X3D just gets wrecked....

 

Seriously, Starfield loves Intel CPUs....that has to be a weird win some / lose some for AMD who sponsored the PC version.

 

(Eyes the SP115 13900KS sitting on the shelf in the MSI Z790i Edge motherboard atm doing nothing)

 

 

 

Memory findings in line with GN meaning much smaller gains going from 4800 -> 7200 (but again, I'd like to see 7600 or 8000+. Maybe take a looksy at memory benefits @tps3443 and let us know).

 

 

 

 

 

 

HUB just confirms and extends some of GNs results to really dial in these hard truths:

--

Intel CPUs dominate for Starfield.

AMD GPUs are competitive with Nvidia (7900xtx vs 4090 especially).

DDR5 memory bandwidth is not nearly as important for performance gains but there are some

--

 

We've reached a point where if you're serious about Starfield, a 7600 > 5800X3D for gaming.

 

I'd say best bang:buck system is a 13700k + cheap B660 + cheap 6400-7000 DDR5 + 7900XTX

 

As always one of my favorite things to see unfold is how driver and game updates change the performance landscape.

 

 

 

 

i find it interesting to see how vastly different games react to the same hardware. some games where X3D leaves everything else completely in the dust, in this case more cache only helps a tiny bit, specific arch and jiggahertz galore is the winner. i hope this is not a new trend that will intensify in the future. i dont want to have to specifically look up all games and programs i POTENTIALLY want to use in the future and adapt my hardware accordingly. as we all know, theres always new software around the corner so things might change rapidly.... ugh

10 hours ago, Izy said:

 

this i find funny

i actually find this super interesting (me being the big data / statistics nerd that i am 😄 ) especially long term wise, this would be a cool indicator for silicon wear / degradation. aside from accumulated temp theres also the same for voltage and amperage. 

the only time this would SUCK though, is if manufacturers use these values to judge, whether or not a cpu / mobo / etc was overclocked or utilized in a "suboptimal ambient thermal environment" to try and get out of warranty claims 🤪

53 minutes ago, Csupati said:

I have found an article on the old NBR forum that says,  the are some early m15x's with soldered edp connector , but alienware never maded cable for it .

Some pics shows there is edp option in bios , and someone was able the get it post with a 1060 but being an lvds screen no image was shown in the internal display.

thats promising though. one could feasibly either solder the eDP connector onto the board, or if you have one of those older models, you could swap out the internal screen with an eDP model. they include the cable for it 🙂 

4 minutes ago, Csupati said:

Hey! Pascal cards are no go.  Due to the MB/bios ,ec bios is monitoring signal feedback at the lvds connection/communication.  If you dont have an lvds capable card in it , it wont turn on.

Im trying to get a solution for that, if its even possible. 

ah that sucks, i remember Pascal onwards was dependant on eDP only, no more lvds. maybe theres some kind of signal adapter? aliexpress always offers crazy stuff like that 😄 

16 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Kojack meant 1500$ for a graphics card is 🤮 
 

Etc +71% price hike isn’t inflation. Look at you 4080 vs 3080. That’s greed 😉 only the 4090 was kept under inflation goals. The rest of Nvidia’s lineup was purely greed. Same for the two Radeon 7900 graphics SKUs. 
 

Again exactly the same for motherboards. 40-50% upwards since Z590. Newest MSI Z790 refresh with the X moniker get another nice 15% on top of previous Z790 Skus from last year.  Barely better but 15% more expensive.
 

So today’s word has to be greeed. Not inflation 🙂

 

And enjoy the time with the lille. No more gaming for you bro Jaybee😁
 

 

36 minutes ago, jaybee83 said:

 

LOL i thought exactly the same thing when i read about that 8h gaming session 😄 1-2h freetime a day if im lucky hahaha. and half of that is spent doing household chores or paperwork.

 

 

INFLATION! has nothing to do with corporate greed! /s

haha i should have elaborated: /s = sarcasm 😄 

thanks man, i DO enjoy the time with the lille skiderik hahaha

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

I have no time spend 8 hours a day for gameing. Maybe 1/2 an hour to 3 quarters. That’s max when I have the time for this, LOOL 

 

And not everyday. Maybe 2 times a week when I have the time, HaHa

 

My dogs would kill me if I have done the same as you brother. Also my wife. Maybe I have been kicked out of our house with the head and face in front , LOOL
 

 

LOL i thought exactly the same thing when i read about that 8h gaming session 😄 1-2h freetime a day if im lucky hahaha. and half of that is spent doing household chores or paperwork.

1 hour ago, kojack said:

Yep, I can remember when 1500 bucks got you one of the top spec systems available.  Now that don't even pay for the video card.  It's bonkers.  

INFLATION! has nothing to do with corporate greed! /s

17 hours ago, kojack said:

Is the 10850k a desktop processor?

yeps, basically a tad downclocked 10900K cuz Intel wasnt able to supply those in big enough numbers haha.

5 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Yep, looks feels and plays like FO4/76. That's not a bad thing. I was able to jump right in. Graphics are clearly updated and I expect many hours of fun when I can fully dive in.

 

As for performance, Steve and GN did a CPU Benchmark/Bottleneck video with a 4090 and a checksum top end with the 7900xtx to show where CPUs give up the ghost. He also did some memory scaling (after the Buildzoid video) showing not much is gained from 6000 up to 7000 (~2fps) but I would have liked to have seen some 7600 and 8000+ testing just because....

 

This game seems to really like Intel 13th gen CPUs especially 13700/13900 and clearly outpace the X3D models including 7800X3D, 7950X3D and especially the 5800X3D.

 

Dropping resolution down to stupid levels (720p) shows not much of a difference between the 7900xtx and 4090 CPU wise. ~4fps but forcing the 13900k into a bottlenecked situation still shows the 7900xtx winning vs the 4090 at all useful resolutions (IE, resolutions and settings that can force a CPU bottleneck).

 

 

 

 

nice writeup, thanks for that. havent gotten around to watching it yet, but its on my playlist. this sounds like Starfield profits way more from raw jiggahertz than it does from increased cache sizes. curious to see how its performance numbers will develop with upcoming patches. especially on the cpu side there seems to be A LOT of performance still left on the table....

14 hours ago, Raiderman said:

Thanks bud!

 

noice! welcome to the 8k club! how stable is it? what mobo are you running? and what sticks?

12 hours ago, chew said:

 

 

Low vddp helps the most. 1.0 range.

 

I'll give you a breakdown.

 

CPU_VCORE (CPU Core and integrated GPU voltage supply)
CPU_SOC (CPU system uncore voltage, memory controller (UMC), north bridge IO, SMU, FCH, DF...)
CPU_VDDIO_MEM (CPU memory I/O voltage, and the voltage supplier for VDDP)
DDR_VDD (DDR PMIC VDD Voltage)
DDR_VDDQ (DDR PMIC VDDQ Voltage)

CPU VDD_MISC (CPU misc voltage for PCIe, internal clockgen, and most important, VDDG voltage is driven by this voltage)
VDDP (CPU DDR Phy voltage)
VDDG (Global memory interface(GMI) voltage)

for Zen CCD/CCX overclocking, CPU Vcore and CPU Vcore loadline calibration
for Infinity Fabric, CPU_SOC, VDDG and MEMCLK
for memory overclocking, VDDIO_MEM, VDDP and CPU_SOC(UMC)
for VDDIOMEM CLDO, VDDP < VDDIOMEM
for VDDMISC CLDO, VDDG =, <, > VDDMISC
CPU_VCORE's internal regulator for igpu is not exposed

 

Knowing this and knowing  1/2 uclk is less your SOC requirements will also be less,

 

Board choice should not really be a big surprise.....lets look at intel for that matter.....at the end of the day it's ddr 5 and signalling that is the enemy. 2dpc intel your lucky to get 7600. 1 dpc imc is limit.

No different with AMD. I manage to get the giga extreme working good but I have been working on board with giga for awhile.....my tachyon b650e (1dpc) can still take the same cpu further.

 

My voltages are as follows. 1/2 tuning is not the same as 1/1.

 

Vcore auto

vsoc 1.25

vddio auto ( 1.3 )

vmisc auto ( 1.1 )

vddp 1.025

vddg 850/850

vdd 1.625

vddq 1.525

 

Start with Hci or karhu (cache enabled ).....or your wasting your time. Tm5 good for catch mem issues not imc. ycruncher fft will also catch imc.

 

I also have an intel tachyon setup...that said i'm already used to what it requires to get 8000 stable.

 

 

 

 

 

Intel.

 

damn thats a very nice write up, thanks for that 🙂 ill check and see if lowering VDDP will help, fingers crossed!

whats the max bootable frequency u were able to do on AM5? irrespective of stability, just bootable.

On 9/2/2023 at 1:39 AM, electrosoft said:

 

Well just wait till 2025 and get the 5090 then you will experience an even more pronounced upgrade than going simply to a 4090.

 

For example, buddy of mine finally upgraded from his KP 2080ti to a 4090 specifically for Starfield, Hogwarts and TLOU 4k and it was a monster uplift but then here he is wanting an upper tier specimen kicking in instead of just enjoying it out of the box:

 

He picked up an Asus Strix and it topped out at ~3030 and 2770ish +1100 on mem. He returned it and picked up another. ~3015 and 2785ish and +1000 on mem. Returned it, picked up a Suprim X AC...+2985 and 2750 and +900 on mem. All three blew his 2080ti out of the water even blocked and OC'd. On the Suprim he even used the new vBIOS capability and reverted it back to the 1.10 top and it still blew chunks (and made it sing like a canary).

 

I told him they're all good out of the box (even the worse 4090 is still a beast at stock) and just block it up like he planned to do but he wants mine. I told him, "sure, $2.2k and it's yours" jokingly and he said he'll think it over but leaning towards wanting it. 🙄

 

What are we seriously talking about? 5fps? Law of diminishing returns are seriously in effect here. Go pick up the cheapest 4090, block it and then sell your KP 3090 to offset the cost and join us with the top dog till 2025

 

Or pick up a 7900xtx for a change of pace and get 4090 level of performance in Starfield according to Steve

 

Steve collecting benchmarks and the 7900xtx holding its own (basically tying or close enough) the 4090 across all settings from 1080p to 4k ultra.

 

 

 

 

 

 

WAT?! THATS 2.4 FPS LESS THAN THE 4090, HOW DARE YOU WANTING TO SETTLE FOR LESS /s 😛 

1 hour ago, Raiderman said:

@jaybee83Have you had any luck getting 8000 to boot? I haven't had much time to mess with mine, but 8000mhz just hangs. I'm in at 7800mhz just fine, using xmp settings, and just dropping to it. Says on the package it is 1.45v, but bios only goes up to 1.43v?

hey bud, yeah booting with 8000 is not the issue, its getting it stable that is 😄 as for being stuck at 1.43V, look for a bios option that unlocks RAM PMIC high voltage mode, then u can go above 1.43.

On 9/2/2023 at 3:53 AM, chew said:

 

Board matters....especially in asus department atm.....only ones doing 8000 reliably is Gene aka 1dpc.

 

Giga's in a fairly decent spot with it's 2 dpc boards however even unobtanium tachyon ( actually have 2 but refraining from using for the testing i'm doing atm ) is beating my extreme.

 

The asrock taichi lite is also doing very well on 2dpc.

 

That leaves poor mans 1 dpc boards. Msi has no GDM options. I haven't heard anything about Asrock itx doing 8000 yet.

 

The giga itx we know can do 8000 and it seems the asus itx can to.

 

Voltage wise less is more. vddp in the 1.0 area......vsoc 1.20-1.25. My vddio is auto (1.3) 

 

uclk requirements in 1/2 are less so vsoc requirements are less......

 

 

good input there, thx for that. i didnt expect the board to be the bottleneck here, would suck if its not tied to the CPU IMC. lets see what upciming AM5 CPU gens bring to the table, im expecting an improvement with new IMC, even on the same board. heres to hoping!

and in the meantime, ill keep on tweaking and tuning...i want my 8000 stable! 😛 

On 9/2/2023 at 1:08 AM, Reciever said:

Im not asking the manager, clearly no one from CryEngine is here to discuss, Im talking to their customers to see if their experience at Burger King is the same as mine.

 

2560x1440

 

Im guessing this is just what you can expect from Crysis 3, in Crysis 1 Remaster the utilization is maxed out pretty consistently, hadnt tried Crysis 2 yet. Not sure if I have it lol

 

I moved on to get some testing going to get some testing going for the 2700x as I want to install the 5800X3D lol, gathering some data first is hurting my soul XD

kool man, let us know how theey compare on u got the data compiled 🙂 should be interesting!

14 minutes ago, chew said:

 

Never think always know and have the data on hand to prove it so when you do performance testing no one can debate the fact that your results are this or that becaesu your probably not stable.......

 

This is for a 1/1 versus 1/2 battle on non vcache to settle the performance debates.

 

No clue what I will get out of 1/1 on this cpu yet on this bios......

keeping tabs on your results man, curious to see what you come up with 🙂 

On 8/22/2023 at 1:41 PM, Reciever said:

Apologies, this is the setup

 

10850K @ 5.0Ghz

16GB DDR4 @ 4400Mhz

RTX 3090 @ +100/+1200 @ 119% Power Limit

Installed on SATA SSD

1300w PSU

 

I have that tool installed, would have to spend some time with it to get familiar.

 

Game doesnt seem to want to use more than 70% GPU utilization at the moment. I am not a fan of the Crysis IP so I am not very familiar with if it has any issues out of the box. Crysis 1 Remastered doesnt seem to have an issue using everything that is available to it. 

what res are u testing it at? try and bump it up to the max. also set your gpu back to full stock, see if that does anything for the gpu utilization. if it does, might indeed be a cpu bottleneck potentially caused by the unoptimized engine.

its at least capable to scaling up to 6 cores / 12 threads....

https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=86637

1 minute ago, tps3443 said:

I am using the DLSS mod (Just installed it) with all graphics settings maxed out. Film grain turned down a bit, and motion blur off. PS: Turning off motion blur completely gives a nice FPS bump. 

 

50% resolution slider is balanced DLSS.

67% resolution slider is Quality DLSS.

 

I am getting like 58-70FPS avg with Quality DLSS 67%, and forced ReBar. Looks great and amazing performance from a tired old 3090 Kingpin. FPS has never dipped below 57FPS, very acceptable for 4K on this setup. Image quality is looking real GOOD!!! 

Not to just understand the game better lol.

 

you make it sound like your 3090 is like 10 years old man haha

4 hours ago, chew said:

Not anymore. AMD forgot I ever existed.

 

All self paid for cpu's on hand.

 

40 something hours y cruncher. 500 loops 10gb linpack..........

 

Prime Blend cooking now.

 

hmmmm u think its stable yet? 😄 

so i went ahead and completely nuked my bios including all my saved profiles, starting from scratch. had the feeling somehow that switching RAM kits and having upgraded like 4-5 bios versions while carrying over and mixing old profiles might have fucked something up. back to square one, manual input all the way. lets see what we got now!

ah, the wonders of ram tuning.....lulz

4 hours ago, cylix said:

I find it a joke, old ugly engine to run  native like this. I mean cmon, game developers are scrwing us. its like they are makeing every game only run with FSR, DLSS and skipping the time to optimize native anymore.

Thank god i dint buy this crap. m2c

 

 

welp you know what this means boiz: time for a GPU upgrade! 4090 aint cutting it no more! oh wait... /s 🤣

3 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

When he started presenting some of the most irrational arguments in favor of AMD that even a Team Red fanboy like @ajc9988 could not stand for, and getting in philsophical battles with @ajc9988 publicly as to why AMD is better than Intel, is when we first started connecting the dots. We also saw lame excuses being presented on the internet that matched almost verbatim the utter nonsense presented at NBR by @hmscott. That is when Brother @Papusanand I started comparing notes and connecting the dots in a PM thread at NBR. When an irrational idiot defends a product that sucks at overclocking using the argument that the maker of it was more honorable for giving noob end users their best effort with nothing more for an enthusiast to extract from it in terms of overclock headroom, and that makes it better option than a competitor's product that leaves headroom on the table for enthusiasts to exploit, it becomes obvious that he/she is an idiotic shill and fanboi retard.

Yes and no. 4070 Ti performs roughly the same as 3090, so if that is roughly where the B980 ends up at launch, that's no slouch. The expected price makes it a compelling thing to consider at $1000~ less than an entry-level 4090 or $500~ (50%) less expensive than a 4080. For my work system I think it could be way better option than the AMD GPU with its goofy random glitches and crappy driver bugs. For my benching rig, maybe not. But, what's the point in benching if everything sucks at overclocking? It is no longer a form of entertainment when the hardware refuses to cooperate. I was more than content with the gaming performance of the 3060Ti, so to me it seems foolish to spend a crap ton of money on a GPU that is going to be used for gaming or run in a work PC.

 

Paying $500 for a GPU that performs in the range of 3090 and supports a more honorable cause (defeating the Green Goblin's crime ring) I would seriously consider it. If you look at the massive gains the GPU newbies at Intel have made with nothing but A770 driver updates in such a short period of time, if only half as much ground is covered with driver updates for the B980 it could end up falling somewhere north of 4080/7900XTX performance within a few months of release.

 

I am also starting to evaluate the logic of continuing my hobby as a PC enthusiasts. It is looking more and more like a an endeavor priced for princes but with products presentable to peasants. If that hobby ends, none of them are going to get any more of my money because they will be deemed unworthy of receiving it. I won't support any cause that doesn't benefit me or do things the way I want things done. However, I will gleefully support a cause that hurts, harms or hinders those that do not do things the way that I want them done. The enemy of my enemy is my friend and Team Red is starting to look, smell and act too much like an inferior amateur counterfeit for Team Green. That leaves Team Blue as the lesser of three evils. If Team Blue can hurt both of them, they'll get my money.

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Yep. Connected the bits after seeing his posts and behaving. I mean a couple mods also got the info I grabbed up. I had a good connection with bro @Mr. Foxand talked with him in pm as We usually did.
HMSCOTT tried several times getting me banned as well tried several dirty tricks also in pm. I mean I mentioned the name Scott Herkelman in some posts and yup. I fast got an pm with questions from Hmscott. If you google I mean he have had several positions in AMD since 2016. 

 

Here’s a review from pcgamer. And I have read worse reviews than this. But 75 rating from pcgamer isn’t exactly very good. 

https://www.pcgamer.com/starfield-review/

Yes, we both saw something strange with the man. If I’m remembering correctly he also frequented some MSI forums. 

 

And such people go around on forums without people/users knowing who they are. 

well dayum, investigative forum journalists fox & papu FTW 😄 crazy story indeed!

5 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Yeah I just got it early this year. Unfortunately I have way too many laptops(I think 12 right now) and I need to sell some off (probably 3-4). 

 

I actually used this laptop maybe 6 times the whole year (just to hear the audio system LOL). 

LOL u "think" that might be one too many? hahaha but i get it your focus is more on alienware classics 🙂 good luck with the sale!

damn dude, this is a gem and looks like pristine condition. sad to see you sell it off...

12 hours ago, Papusan said:

Enjoy. Herkelman said no for 7600 and 7900 series but considered 12VHPWR connectors for 7700 and 7800 series AMD cards. Maybe he have read my many posts about fried 4090s and changed mind.
 

Here is a good reminder. I’m 100% sure Scott Herkelman is our old AMD friend HMSCOTT from old NBR. I even talked about this in pm with him right before he was banned from NBR. YUP, I’m 100% sure. And I mean I talked with you about this in pm in older days. 

 

Enjoy… https://www.club386.com/amd-confirms-radeon-rx-7800-xt-was-originally-designed-with-new-power-connector-in-mind/

 

See bro @Rage Set  I had correct from day one…. Scott goes on to rule out any change of power connectors for the time being, stating “Until this power issue is cleaned up and there’s good confidence it’s working correctly for end users, that’s where you’ll start to see us incorporate it into our planning.

 

 I wonder when he changed his mind. After reading in the big web about how bad these power connectors was? I wrote a lot about it in different forums. And posted links to all failures as they popped up. I’m sure he has seen some of them.

 

I also knocked on Dell Alienware’s bossses feets in same way as for bad designed cablemod adapters. One after one. Azor, Gonzales, Umar and so on In forums and pm. And I’m sure they started hate me that time for my stubbornness and my hatred for junk. Now I don’t bother much with them anymore. Just let the stupids (consumers) buy their utter trashy cheapo junk. Maybe they deserve being screwed by trash company. But I pop up sometimes telling how bad their desktops are. That helps out on their sales, LOOL

 

Edit. The whole interview with Scott Herkelman (HMSCOTT)…, SH: We specifically, for 7900 Series, and even 7600, we didn’t plan on the new power cable, but 7800 and 7700 did have a plan for it. We removed it, and that was a purposeful removal. You shouldn’t blame end users for issues you have. You should catch and own any problems, just like we did with the vapour-chamber issue. I was all over social media because I felt like it was AMD’s problem and I was going to own it.

https://www.club386.com/scott-herkelman-qa-amd-radeon-boss-answers-your-burning-rx-7800-xt-questions/

Yep, they read social media and forums without people will know they was there. And don’t doubt they have seen some of my quality posts 🙂

12 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

I am almost positive you are correct. He is an agenda-driven wolf in sheep's clothing and should not be trusted. His agenda is to convince consumers what is best for AMD (and hurtful to Intel) is best for consumers, even when it is not.

ok didnt see THAT one coming...how long has herkelman been the radeon graphics boss? all the way back to hmscott's beginnings at NBR?

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

If this leaked info is accurate, I suspect it will be my next GPU.

 

 

u sure about that? it would be roughly the perf. of a 4070 Ti, so maybe equivalent to a 5060 Ti released around the same time... thats pretty lowend for your standards 😋

On 8/30/2023 at 2:50 PM, Talon said:

 

The guy that unlocked nvflash for 40 series flash, full sent his 4090 with 1.3v (using external elmor labs) LOL. 1175w and it now rests in Valhalla. 

 

But he took the world record for Solar Bay just previous to this run lol. 

https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=sb P&cpuId=&gpuId=1509&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

 

 

LOL had to laugh at that, HECK of a way to go out with his 4090 blowing up on camera and breaking a world record run 😄 

17 hours ago, chew said:

this is the most boring part of what i do......only about 40 more hours of hashing boring stuff out.......

 

hey bud, im currently also playing around with DDR5-8000, any pointers for stability? GDM disable is a total nogo for me, instant BSOD when i try to boot. VDDIO maxed to 1.58V, VDD(Q) at 1.6, VSOC 1.3, turned down FCLK to 2000 until i figured out stability, VDDP 1.18, loosened timings. 

21 hours ago, poprostujakub said:

Well, as far as it won't need a lot of work with terminal I can try it.

 

I'm a refugee from NBR but thanks 🙂

 

@Csupati

There is no BIOS that supports newer cards, I checked this first...

 

@jaybee83

P180HM is the prettiest laptop I've ever seen, so I had to have it 😉

 

 

Well, another update - with HD8970M it doesn't even light up the screen and after one minute it shuts off, so no commmunication to KBC. It's sad, because W7170M's are very cheap...

its pretty for sure, i used to rock a P150HM myself back in the day 🙂 yeah, that was one of the HM series annoying disadvantages, its lack of GPU support...the subsequent EM and SM series were way more forgiving in terms of unofficial GPU upgrades! latest I heard was 980M being made compatible after heavy bios modding....but that was a one of a kind mod and destroyed the mobo in the end haha.

On 8/30/2023 at 3:27 PM, Nico3110 said:

And that's the way Prema and you did it? I'm impressed! Is it possible to share your knowledge or a signed BIOS?

well, he cleared the way, really, had to utilized internal contacts so we can get our hands on the signing key. unfortunately, thats not something we can distribute openly 😄 thinking is rather to make the mod itself available to owners of this machine, but that would depend on the rainbow master himself on how to approach this.

On 8/30/2023 at 3:27 PM, Nico3110 said:

Stock 230W PSU.

 

Let me try it on Friday. I will let you know the result.

 

Kind of. Sometimes ThrottleStop is not fast enough to measure it. But yes, I can repeat this (though it's only a very short peak).

makes sense, with the stock 230W psu only short peaks would be doable. if the CPU alone is already drawing as much wattage as the psu is rated at, then u wouldnt be able to keep that up for long without tripping OCP or OPP haha. thanks for checking 🙂 

On 8/30/2023 at 3:27 PM, Nico3110 said:

Yes. I upgraded to TS 9.6 from 9.4. And I changed my Speed shift setting from (I don't know why it was at this value) 255 to 0. Test/Benchmarks are done with GeekBench 6 and Prime95. Furthermore I've maxed every power limit and it's time. No other settings are possible with the T variant of my CPU...

cool, sounds good. keep on testing and keep us updated! unfortunately im also somewhat limited with the current 12600 in my lady's machine, K series skus allow way more tweaking.

21 hours ago, Nico3110 said:

That are good news! Another question: did you find a way to flash a custom BIOS? I would like to upgrade it to newest  version and maybe unlock some features...

yes and no haha. as you know, im running premamod on my lady's machine, but in order to flash that custom code we needed proper signing. otherwise it would block everything and just result in a brick. sooooo yeah....custom flash is possible but ull need the official signing making it basically a "stock" bios for the system haha. 

17 hours ago, Nico3110 said:

Hey guys. Something crazy happened. I've done some benchmarks because I've lost my ThrottleStop settings and I've managed to run my i9-12900T with 224.5 W. I never saw this high wattage before on my machine... What was your highest power draw?

 

very nice, good job there bud! iirc i also managed to peak at ~230W, lemme rummage through my screenshot library real quick...

edit:

actually, nope, maxxed out at 145W! thats impressive, what kinda psu are u sporting? also, can u confirm this via hwinfo64? is it repeatable? u using a different TS version than before? different settings? give us the deetz! haha

11 hours ago, Reciever said:

 

 

Don't know that I can agree, without having seen the video. GN does like to make a few jokes at the other parties expense but most of the time it's those that refused to acknowledge the problem. 

 

I don't want for either group to be completely sanitized of humanity. That's how you get videos made by someone from HR. 

word! we dont want that either.