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i would stay and keep you company! 😁
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oh dude, that sux big time! hope u can get it back in time before they sell it off! damn, photorealistic indeed. basically looks like a real life recording of someone walking through the woods 😯
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yeah, at least the 4090 cam dp 8K much mpre realistically than the 3090 where Nvidia actually advertized 8K gaming 😂 i think the 4090 caught a lot of ppl off guard, turned out way more powerful, frugal in terms of power and spikes ("frugal" compared to 3090(Ti) at least) and "good value" than expected. haha yep, at this point in time its doubtful if 8K will ever even become a "thing", if most reviewers at LTT couldnt even tell the difference between 8K and 4K (recently published vid). it could be smth like CPU cores and Ghz where specs have reached a "good enough for 99% of ppl" kinda level. at least for now it looks like refresh rates and color ranges / contrast ratios (HDR) will become more important moving forward.
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
watch me not ever flashing such a performance nerfing vbios! ill trust the community to come up with a non-nerfing solution, as always 😂 preach brother! Imagine that fake FPS booster doesn't use anything AI but also works on Ampere, massive kick in the nut for Nvidia for gating that tech to Ada Lovelace. of course those are 1st party data for now, but its surprising to see AMD placing the 7900xtx as a 4080 competitor and not 4090. the latter will at most only be about 5-15% faster, whereas the 4080 will be absolutely smoked. i guess it really depends on how much emphasis customers will put on RT performance. by AMDs own indirect admission, RT and upscaling algos WILL play a much more important role going forward. oh wow if rdna3 really scales up to 3+ghz then overclocked itll smoke the 4090 easily! AMD touts 2.3 ghz typical gaming clock, so at 3+ghz were talking +30% higher clocks! compare that to the typical 5-7% added performance when overclocking 4090s. iiiiinteresting.... -
yeah well...in the end theyre all just companies trying to make a profit and not friends for gamers / professionals 😄 so sadly, developments like these are to be expected. sure intel will have new tech, but that will require a whole new platform. with AMD, theyll release their X3D parts followed by Zen 4+ / 5 and guess what? can still go and grab an X670 or B650 mobo which will be way more competitive than Z890 or similar from Intel. argument of platform longevity still stands, as we can currently see with AM4. as for hardware cost, HUB just published a comparison of best midrange cpus, and guess what? Intel came out pretty expensive actually 😋 so the differences between AM5 and RPL aint really that significant anymore. same for gaming performance, very similar. what does that leave as a deciding factor? u guessed it: platform longevity!
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agreed. fpr AMD its about holding market share and expanding on it. every customer staying on AM4 is a loss for Intel. yes and no, depends how u look at it. look at it this way: if AMD is able to keep AM4 owners on AM4, thats a win. anyone else wanting to switch from AM4 will likely choose AM5 due to platform longevity. so that only leaves intel 12th gen owners who want to upgrade to 13th gen. AMD has shown that for them its more about the long game rather than short term profits. as you said yourself, in the current economy, the number of ppl going for platform upgrades every single gen will be super small. not everyone goes out running to buy RPL just because it benches a few % faster, makes no sense whatsoever for most ppl due to it being a deadend platform. later on, once AM5 has been out for a bit and prices have fallen, those same AM4 owners who enjoyed the platform longevity will likely switch to AM5 rather than buy a new platform every other gen with Intel. again, its a long game. AMD just cant compete otherwise due to their tiny size compared with Intel, so they gotta choose their battles wisely.
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this. the X3D tech is just meant for gaming or productivity apps that profit from increased cache. for intel's side, their midcycle refresh in the form of the KS doesnt bring anything much to the table either, aside from maybe 1-200 mhz more 😋 so its not like these refreshes mean much aside from specific use cases (gaming for AMD, overclocking and benching on intel). well duh, they barely just introduced AM5, of course theyre not gonns drop prices right away 😄 no company in their right mind would do that unless something cataclysmic happened (i.e. mining crash). dont forget, AM5 is a long-lived platform vs. deadend RPL platform. any changes amd implements now theyll have to continue for the rest of the platform lifetime. besides, with AM4 cpu sales skyrocketing currently, think AMD is bothered by that? the money STILL goes to their pocket! 😄
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id love to see what u would do to a 4090, go from 4 slots stock to 6 slots? 😂
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it took yeaaaars for intel to start competing on price with RPL..nvidia isnt there yet, amd will need to keep up the pressure for several gens to come until nvidia will budge even just a little. thing with nvidia is also, they just keep delivering without fault. intel didnt do that, they always played last minute catch up and had issues and delays with their process nodes. so nvidia will be a far far more difficult opponent to crack for amd. but this is definitely a good path red team is on, theyll have to keep this up! -
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if u go purely by Mhz, then no, Zen4 can definitely not compete with RPL. but thats no surprise, been like that for years now 😋 i chose AM5 based on earlier availability and platform longevity. 13th gen is a deadend platform and single digit performance gains aint gonna convince me to invest money and time in it 😄 that dude sure is smth else... as for the temp drop, not surprising considering intel didnt change anything with the ILM. yep that was my thought as well. the basic principle and construction aint nothing special though, unless were talking about customized form i.e. for zen4. for the die size, dont forget that ull have to add the main die and the 6 MCN together, that would equal 522mm2, so not thaaat far away from nvidias 600. although great to see AMDs latest offering, i doubt this will kill off nvidias sales, theres always gonna be nvidia only fanboys and ppl who get suspicious if the competition's cards are "too cheap". more expensive HAS to mean better right? Intel did the same thing for decades, thats why its so surprising that now with RPL they started to compete on price. im thinking AIBs will deffo have more headroom than on nvidiai cards, esp..when it comes to performance deltas. should be interesting to see how well rdna3 scales with power! yep, no comparisons was strange...but might be marketing philosophy, i.e. focus on our own stuff, dont give the competition any more spotlight. ha, just throw in a 4090 and ull be back in cpu bottleneck land 😂 if nvidia wants to, they can and will. unfortunately jensen has a steve jobs like god complex. itll take a LOT before green team gives in 😅 yep agreed on the amd side, they should come pretty close to 4090 perf with their offerings. but of course well need reviews first to get a clear picture. for nvidia's side, difficult to judge at this point how they will react to the competition. drastic price changes or adjustments in lineup are unlikely though, esp. now after the embarrassment with the fake 4080. logical in our eyes, sure. but nvidia doesnt think that way 😅 -
hmmm no VRM cooling....is morpheus including those wimpy lil addon heatsinks again for vrms? they should offer smth for that. also, am i understanding that correctly? 360W TDP is with PASSIVE cooling? i.e. adding fans increases that? that sounds a bit over the top, 360W WITH fans would be more realistic. and in that case could be a tight fit cooling a 4090, or even a 3080 😅
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noice, are you already making headway on getting your hands on an HOF card or is that more of a wishlist item currently? we want deetz if its the former! 😁 geez, 2x16 pins, completely bonkers... ok i think were misunderstanding each other here: "adapters" i define as added cables between the psu cables and the gpu. "native" cables i define as cables that go directly from the psu to the cpu. and im not just making this up, publications like GN share the same definition (i.e. as stated in their latest gpu power cable testing video). for the latter with 8-pin connectors on the psu side, im not talking about third party or first party addon cables for pre-existing psus. there are actually brand new psus that come with such cables included in the box, so no aftermarket upgrade shenanigans going on. as for why im being skeptical regarding the higher number of 8pin connectors on the cablemod offerings: that often quoted 150W spec is set for the gpu side connectors. has nothing to do with 8 pins on the psu side. i.e. according to corsair their psu sided 8pins are actually specced for 288W per item iirc, thus ure totaling 576W via 2x8 pin + 75W via the pcie slot = approx. 650W that would still be inside spec. but that is likely dependent on the psu manufacturer and psu model i could imagine. with that being said, if the cables ure offering are actually up to snuff and sport sufficient wire gauge, as well as high quality soldering job, why the need to branch out to 3 or even 4 connectors when the native cables from the actual psu manufacturers (again, included with brand new psus just recently launched, NOT as addon for pre-existing models!) only include two? AND are ALL rated for 600W or more with so far zero incidents reported? sure guys, i get it, everyone loves cablemod, they make "nice looking" cables and winning hearts with their planned 90 degree adapter. doesnt mean we have to throw critical thinking overboard now does it? 😋 congratz man, 36 years is crazy! what did u guys do on your special day? hope u enjoyed it to the fullest! greetings from mexico btw, currently on my honeymoon with my lady, its "only" been ten years since we became a couple 😃 yep ive seen Romans comments on the cold snapping during delids, deffo smth to keep in mind for upcoming ones! the last i did for my lady's 12600 was also with some prewarming via a hair dryer, fortunately no issues during that delid. i wouldnt call that gimmicky! im actually planning exactly that, to install an internal display for monitoring purposes. esp. since my enthoo pro 2 provides MORE than enough space for such addons! however, i have to agree that the execution by asrock leaves a lot to be desired...my plan involves a simple usb powered hdmi display at 10.1 inches thats normally used to raspberry pi applications. ha! i was smiling when i saw that vid, thinking straight of u and the rest of the gang here surely drooling over such a cooler 😂 easy, cuz the imc is only part of the equation. the other three are dimm quality, dimm temps and mobo trace quality. edit: ah, took too long with my reply, @tps3443 was faster 😋 -
aw man, really only 20% uplift? that would suck! was it software or hardware raid when u tried that? and yeah no worries on the backup, will be getting an 18TB spinning rust soon for exactly that purpose. plus, worst case, since its all just media its not highly unique personal data. that high priority data i always keep on my highest reliability / newest drive for added peace of mind. oh highly interesting, thx for linking! ill get to reading that right away, really wanna know wtf is going on with zen 4 perf on win11...
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its interesting to see how many ppl ive seen highly recommending this short anime CP series. seems to be quite a thing!
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check and see if u maybe have additional mem options somewhere else in the bios. sometimes u have redundant memory and cpu tuning settings under different submenus. otherwise, try and read out the xmp profiles of ur sticks in windows via software (make sure they actually have xmp 😉) and then set them manually via custom profile in bios.
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welcome back to the fold buddy! seems like we joined NBR at roughly the same time 🙂 ull find lots of NBR refugees here at NBT, should be fun!
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well that sucks then if u only have M.2 slots to populate... makes high capacity drives quite expensive indeed. and yeah, im curious to see what the 990 pro will bring to the table, supposed to be released by end of this year / beginning of next. judging by the specs known so far, this shouldve been the drive that 980 Pro didnt turn out to be if u ask me 😅
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thats actually what im currently doing with my SATA drives: previously in my Clevo i had the 2x4TB 860 Evos set up as JBOD, but now in Hyperion i switched to RAID 0 for better sequential performances. makes sense since all the data on those drives are media, so tv shows / movies / games, etc. thus i can profit from the improved seq speeds. once theyre full i can add a third sata drive and bam, 3x the single drive performance with 50% more capacity 😁
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jaybee83 replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
lol ure making a lot of assumptions here my friend 😄 first up, no one said anything about any cheap amazon noname branded cables. im actually talking about native 12VHPWR cables that are shipped as part of highend PSUs, i.e. Seasonic or Corsair that actually sport 2x8 pin connectors on the PSU side and the 16-pin connector on the gpu side. all those cables that are natively shipped and included with those psus are rated at 600W. the 3x vs. 4x 8pin connectors was and is a discussion for the adapters provided by third parties like cablemod or Nvidia as included with the 4090s. those go between the psus and the gpu as a potentially added point of failure. and those would either be rated for 450W with 3 connectors or 600W with 4 connectors. so then: if the cables included with the PSUS and rated for 600W all sport 2x8 pin connectors on the psu side, then why would cablemod go and suddenly make those 3 or 4 connectors? unless they just took the wonky adapters as design reference and copy pasted. dont tell me that cablemod knows their stuff better than someone like corsair or Seasonic, that suggestion aint gonna fly 😄 be that as it may that cablemod is known for their products, but so is Nvidia. and look what their crappy adapters are causing atm. so thats not really an argument... and just aa a preemptive note: there hasnt been a single case of the aforementioned native cables included with the PSUs that melted or went up in smoke 🙂 so they must be doing smth right. so, all this put together, in the context of the native 2x8 pin psu cables i find it "interesting" to say the least and a bit sus at the worst that cablemod would come up with a 3x8 pin or 4x8 pin design that is reminiscent of those crappy included adapters that go up in smoke left an right... -
iirc u should have an option in bios called battery flex or smth similar. u can set when it starts and stops charging, i.e. start at below 70% and stop at 90% or so. @Snowleopard u mean 990 pro? havent heard of any 990 evo drives yet. also, whats stopping u from going with 4TB sata drives? u can get the 860/870 Evo lines at 4TB for like 350-400€ new and 200-350€ used. if u then need more speed just RAID 0 them up and off u go 🙂