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im glad its on their radar, win11 is a trash os for sure but better they try and make it run better on the new hardware than letting it pull down everything with it into the abyss... 😅 yeah man, totally agreed esp on the ssd part. its sad to see that seemingly we only have two options left going forward: either higher capacity ssds with crappy reliability, i.e. QLC or even PLC and without DRAM cache or ultrafast highend drives that cost an arm and a leg at higher capacities (if they even exist, mostly just capped out at 4TB). why not offer smth with best of both worlds? at current, the best option for high capacity is still samsung 860/870 evo series at 4TB. raid that shit up at 70-80€ per TB cost and u can sleep easy with TLC, DRAM cache, 5yr warranty and samsung reliability. plus, increased performance with each added drive. so why not offer 8 or 16TB drives like that? put it in a 2.5inch enclosure for sufficient space and offer it with an M.2 or pcie adapter for higher speeds. pcie 3.0 would already suffice to lower costs 🙂 otherwise well be stuck forever at stupidly increasing heat ouputs, empty performance that doesnt translate into real world advantages and the same TB sizes for each and every gen....at higher and higher costs. meh....

yeah, as with any other hardware u should look at the benchmarks that most closely relate to your actual usage. sequential data transfers are usually at the forefront of ssd marketing but most users dont really use that in daily operations.

poor you, youre definitely cursed in ONLY being able to reach 7600 on the ram, best to throw that trash cpu out with the board and sticks, not worth all this sorrow and hassle 😂 not really sure how that has anything to do with being German, but ok, whatever floats his boat i guess haha. seems like hes really interested in your chip! huh....well, as long as u dont actually have to upgrade to latest OS as @Mr. Fox said after that, then all is well. but otherwise would suck for benching older hardware on software that requires benchmate. honestly, i would test the waters and see how far u could push up the price. if you can really get double MSRP then absolutely go for it. u say you couldnt be bothered for such a headache but i mean think about it: receiving payment and preparing the package for send off is not really that much work. pretty sweet hourly rate if u ask me haha. as for pricing, research some of silicon lottery's previous pricing, rates skyrocketed pretty fast if u went up the rarity scale, esp. in the single digit realms. as for the "work" of shopping for another chip and tuning it: cmon, thats part of the fun, that aint "work" 😋 id say push it as far as u can and then go for it! weird, why would that cable have four 8pin connectors on the psu side? most if not all native cables ive seen so far have 2x8pins on the psu side and ALL of them are rated for 600W+. is this some kinda 1200W+ rated cable? seems a bit sus to me tbh. lol mr. fox and friends sounds like a sitcom 😄 agreed with this stance. if you want political / religious / sexual orientation / gun laws / blah discussions, u can have that aaaaanywhere in real life, on tv, on social media, etc. its everywhere anyways and ppl rip each other's throats out because of that. i for one like the community spirit at NBR before and here at NBT now. lets continue discussing and sharing stuff that unites us, not divides us. for flame wars, go to reddit, fb, twitter, 4chan, etc. got enough of those around... yep agreed, in this context 1k is not enough. but as mentioned before, he should push it as far as he can and see what could be doable. no reason to make a definitive decision now. lean back, enjoy the ride, see what options u have and then decide. if he sticks to 1k, deffo not worth it. but if it goes up to 1.5 or even 2k, go for it, easy money 🙂

so far ive been the type to let the heatsink do the spreading, ive only dabbled once or twice in manual spatula spreads. im guessing its just a different application philosophy. GN for example seem to prefer the manual spatula spread, so might produce more consistent results in the hands of an experienced technician. i imagine the spatula method would allow for varying heatsinks with differing surface properties (porosity & bend), as well as mounting pressure. whereas the heatsink spread method is easier to implement if u stick to the same heatsink and mounting pressure. just a hyothesis on my side though. in the end, such discussions will likely have much less of an effect than the utilized paste or cooler itself 😄

thats pretty high praise, might give it a shot.

dont trust task manager when it comes to clocks monitoring...rather use smth like hwinfo64.

i found it weird not to be able to move my machine anymore, although i seldomly did anyways. i find it nice to have more space on the desk now, with only kb and mouse in front of me. but omg all that extra screen real estate going from 15 to 32 inches 😁

haha glad the "trash" card is treating u well 🙂 what are u getting on the vram? poor @Receiver, doesnt he already have enough on his hands in keeping us in line? hahaha said it before and sticking to it: ill be one of the first to applaud AMD should they be able to beat the 4090 in any circumstances 🙂 damn, 8600+, thats insane... i already feel so old n slow with the 6600 M Die modules in my system... 😂😅 LOL ok, hes got it under control...and yep, as i said, already busy enough with keeping us in line 😂 word, i had the same thinking with going native 12VHPWR yep i had the exact same issue when i first put together Hyperion, wouldnt boot at all because i put the sticks into A1B1 (which normally makes total sense since theyre closer to the cpu socket). but nope, A2B2 first! no idea why they chose to go this route.

haha thx for the kind words guys. and no worries, the updates will resume once im back 😁 still a TON of tuning left to do on Hyperion! big fat greetz from the Yucatan

nice little future proofing, nothing wrong with that 🙂 should deffo run cooler at the limited 3.0 speeds!

working up the courage? is it that intimidating? haha

heck yeah i was worried when those stories first came up. i checked my 4090 like every 5 minutes for any power cable sag / bend! such an elation to find out the issue likely lies with the standard Nvidia 8pin to 16 pin adapters! best decision i ever made in such a context to go with a high quality seasonic psu that has a native 16pin PCIe 5.0 power cable 🙂 plus, the humongous Phanteks Enthoo Pro II case also helps, sporting more than enough "girth" to leave sufficient space for the power cable protruding from the gpu, basically no bent at the connector itself and only very gradual bending of the cable downstream from the connector.

also wondering if that speed entry is really something read out "live" or if that is just a spec listing of some kind. what are ur actual clocks under idle, multi and single core load?

mwahaha, i noticed the same when googling for the NH55JNNQ, patting myself on the back on building up that thread with brother @electrosoft and @win32asmguy. fun times! LOL i laughed at that comment hahaha. but ure right, boy am i glad i held out through the whole pandemic hardware scam and waited for Zen4 and RXT 4090, the amount of performance u can get nowadays for pretty good pricing is absolutely insane. being honest with the thread title, eh? id imagine the benchmark thread would be like: coffeeshop / townsquare for ex-DTR geeks turned desktop-freaks 😄

haha would love to my dude, unfortunately im about to head to Mexico with the missus for our honeymoon. so no hardware playground for the next two weeks! sucks to be me i guess lulz 😂

yep, so specifically for port royal it tops out at roughly +1600-1625, at 1650 and above it starts artifacting / crashing to desktop. im using a suite of 11 stress tests to finetune for 24/7 stability, port royal is just the first step i take to get a quick idea of performance increase and rough stability range. so basically started with +1600 in port royal and dialed it down step by step to +1550 while going through the suite. btw, just finished up with the core, +200 stable 🙂 but im gonna try for +205 haha. in any case, clocks end up in the range of 3060-3120 depending on load and core temps. not bad! highest power draw on the gpu itself that i saw was 560W, with gpu rails maxing out at a whopping 675W! crazy stuff, but temps were always under control, i think the absolute hottest hotspot temp that i saw was in the low to mid 80s in furmark / kombustor. so no worries on that front! usually its more like in the 70s, with junction temp in the mid 60s to low 70s. yep, can confirm the coil whine on my suprim x, as well. although it doesnt bother me at all, i actually just tested for it after i got the card after i saw so many users on overclock.net whining about that 😄 glad im not as sensitive towards that haha, cant hear it at all while gaming or benching. and yes, the 4090 is such a monster in so many ways! can go up insanely high with power consumtion if u push it, at the same time it can be soooo frugal in terms of wattage per fps if u trim it down via UV or fps limiter. while playing wolfenstein the new order i brought it down to 90W avg for 60 fps locked at 4K everything maxed lulz i absolutely love this card! 🙂 my guess is looks. just "looks nice" to see the front of the fans when looking into the case. unfortunately, that goes against any logic in terms of airflow 😂 keeping an eye on this. might come in handy later down the line 🙂

sounds about right to me for high cpu loads without AVX and pulling all cooling stops available to the user.

dont expect to get 9900KS desktop stock performance in your machine. even with delid, liquid metal, highend thermal paste, higher contact pressure and highend pads + higher pressure on the CPU VRMs i wasnt able to get stock desktop performance out of my SIlicon Lottery binned 9900K. as bro @Recieveralready said, ull need to get creative 😄

might that be the max multicore clocks? max boost as listed by intel is only the single core max.

yep, for now Fibre only brings marginal real life speed bumps, but long term its a total game changer. copper can only do so much.

lol damn thats crazy. so looks like both RPL and Zen4 are on similar levels. but where is the 13900K?

quick n dirty run at stock. although time spy is not really interesting to me, i optimize gpu performance for 4K. thats also what i set when tuning the vRAM and core atm. vRAM now all set at +1550 Mhz 24/7 stable (=24.1 Gbps), core currently at +200 Mhz (= 3060-3120 Mhz depending on load type and core temp), but havent finished my stability test suite yet, so could potentially end up a bit lower than that.

at least based on the changelog no reason for me to upgrade yet, sticking to 522.25

those recent jumps in CPU performance are definitely insane. were approaching GPU style changes more and more, not just with performance jumps but also the way the hardware works (i.e. different core types, dynamic boosting behaviour, high number of cores, etc.) just dont make the error of equaling such a golden chip with overall 13900K standards 😄 well, i guess it depends what ure looking for. im testing for max. 24/7 stability on auto fan curve. for benching i think id be able to do +1650 on auto curve, at max fans and better case cooling 1700+ could be doable. also, havent repasted / repadded anything yet, full stock. huh, looks like mine aint that bad, currently still tuning the core but im at +200 offset resulting in load clocks of 3060-3120 Mhz depending on load type and core temps. full stock it runs 2850 and 2925 with maxed power / voltage limits (without clock offset). but lets be honest, a total spread of 4% going from worst to best really aint nothing to write home about. i wouldnt even call that "binning", might as well just be (un)luck of the draw. still, its funny to see the most expensive card coming in last here lulz maybe theyll do a separate piece on "trash card" performance 😂 thanks again for the software pointers bro Fox, unfortunately MSI Dragon Ball doesnt play BALL (pun intended) with my 7950X 😄

i guess u cant go wrong with either of those 🙂