1610ftw
-
Posts
1,135 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
1
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Events
Everything posted by 1610ftw
-
Congrats on the SM-G with Prema bios! We have had multiple issues of users having to restore their bios with a programmer so I would be careful with the bios settings and even more so when you have the Prema bios as you may not be able to reflash the Prema bios if something goes wrong and Prema is very hard to get hold of. As for undervolting better to check optimal settings with something like Throttlestop or Intel XTU as changes will be reversible if they are not set to start automatically. I had a bunch of close calls with undervolts being too extreme and since then I only activate Throttlestop manually after booting up. It is safer that way and I only have to switch it on once every one or two weeks as I do not power down that often.
-
😄 I have some files that I need for professional use that I like to have with me, some virtual machines that are not so small and also local backups so whenever a drive goes dead I can replace it even when I am on the road. That goes for all the stuff that I want to be able to use when on the road and if one drive fails it should be about 15 minutes to an hours to be up and running again. As I said the 8TB drive is overkill in this laptop but I wanted to have a bit of overhead and the ability to still cover all my bases even when I have only three drive slots with one limited to 2TB. 8TB is already a lot imo and the 2TB SSDs are the sweet spot from a price / performance point of view - good choice!
-
You can just start the video, it starts at the right time code and it will only take a few seconds. I guess we will see what really is behind it within a week. Socketed CPUs that can be supported for multiple generations would be cool but the last generations of socketed laptops had the issue that even when something new came out for the same socket there was no upgrade path. This has to change or I can just get a laptop that is top of the line for the current gen and be done. And yes, I know that there are other reasons to root for socketed laptops but the only time that this was really exciting was when we went from something like a 6600K to an 8700K and then to a 9900K with socketed laptops - those were the days 🙂
-
At least it is nice that something is being done. Even if they do not get it perfect from the start others may take notice and build their own more modular system. I have maintained for some time that Asus and MSI as motherboard manufacturers would be in a better position to give us a classic socketed systems. And then you have Dell, HP and Lenovo - three very big companies that can do whatever they set their sights on - it is just a matter of going... I think Dell had some very modular concept laptop some time ago that never went anywhere until now (not the Area 51m) and in my opinion the trick is to make the higher cost of modularity palatable by offering it for higher end systems. Hard to justify modularity in a laptop that with a less modular platform could be had for 1000 bucks but when we are looking at the top price ranges it is not too bad if people have to pay a surcharge for modularity and upgradeability.
-
Nice, so you are sorted out for the dongle! I use this on the SM-G, no special solution needed with 4 regular drives: 1x 8TB NVME TLC 2x 4TB NVME TLC 1x 2TB SATA TLC I paid way too much for the 8TB drive and cannot really recommend that but I like to be able to have a bit of extra space just in case and also the ability to make do with three drives in these times where manufacturers cannot be assed to even have three full sized M.2 slots for 99.9% of all laptops out there. I am currently typing this on the SM-G with 128GB @ 3200 - those caps above were from the SM-G as the look identical to the KM-G 🙂
-
I just hope it will be something exciting: 18" or more top tier CPU and GPU performance top tier connectivity top tier memory and storage options Or to speak in Clevo terms we want a new version of the X170 and not the NH55 and we need some kind of upgrade perspective over a number of generations.
-
4 slots @3200 I believe are only possible with Comet Lake, works perfectly with a 10850K. I got a small transposer board for something like 3$ and the keyboard is a tight fit after that and it still works but it may still be half a mm higher where the SSD is (NVME SSD 2TB TLC). I used all the SSD slots I could use with the 10850K in the KM-G so the three normal ones and the one in the WiFi slot. Also got an external WiFi dongle for about 35$ that is faster than the Intel card in the KM-G 😄
-
Very easy to open the Clevo so you can just have a look where the memory is installed. A big advantage over the MSI is that you can also get to the other side of the motherboard with ease, you only have to take out two screws that hold the keyboard and then it is very easy to push up the keyboard. The GT72 and the X170 are quite similar in so far that I usually do not like to screw on the bottom cover as it is not necessary for it to stay in place. The cover of the GT72 is less flimsy though, with the X170 bottom cover you have to be a bit careful. And 5 drives and a BD drive is really cool - you made the most out of it 🙂
-
I checked my notes and in fact I weighed my X170KM-G at 4.6 kg, same as the MSI GT75 but a lot denser as the GT75 is wider and thicker than the X170 chassis. Yes in another display of impressive stupidity after their first brilliant decision to always require two power supplies Clevo also made sure that the 4th slot would only work with a Rocket lake CPU. You can however add a 4th SSD in the place of the Wifi card under the keyboard - this is what I did to get a 4th drive. Got myself a 2TB 2230 drive from WD, the only available 2TB TLC drive at the time: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/wd-black-sn770m-2-tb/ Top speed is about double SATA speed at around 800 to 900 but it still feels snappy like an SSD should. The GT72 is a rarity as the later models can take up to 6 drives which is completely unheard of today where we can be lucky if we get 4 m.2 slots in selected workstations. I have only ever used this Samsung memory so unfortunately I cannot help you with the Kingston memory but from what I remember it was said that 2933 should be fine and with tighter timings that come with it the effective speed should be about the same. I would first go for 2 x 32GB and only if needed you can later add another 64GB.
-
128GB with 4 memory slots @ 3200 works in both the SM-G and KM-G as long as you use a 10850K or 10900K and Samsung memory. I am sure other CPUs will work, too - just don't use Rocket Lake 😄 And yes, timings are probably not up to the standards of our resident overclockers but for me it is more important to have 128GB running in a system that is completely stable, no need for further experimentation.
-
Congratulations and yes it is quite heavy! It is more like 4.5kg / 10 lbs for the laptop and about 2.2 kg / 5 lbs for the power supplies and it will make for one heavy backpack / carrying case 😄
-
Just watched a video from Jarrod's tech and was rather stunned to see this: Looking forward to hear more and at this point anything except external GPUs via TB5 would be a very unexpected and hopefully welcome surprise!
-
MSI has been limiting themselves for some time now (3 generations) with offering almost exclusively UHD screens in their top tier laptops despite evidence to the contrary that it is hurting sales of these top of the line units especially with the gaming variants and even more so in the absence of Gsync that would be less of an issue with a QHD+ screen. Agreed on the vapor chamber, provided it is really significantly better and apparently it is for the CPU. I would prefer to have it in the 4080 and 4090 SKUs and only offer the heatpipe solution for the 4070 SKUs that are available in certain countries. It is also hard to justify 4 or more different models that apart from having two different GPUs only differentiate themselves from the others by their memory or storage so fully agreed on that. Anything less than 32GB memory does not make much sense any more and a 2TB drive is a size that is actually of some use and a good fit for a top tier system without breaking the bank and it would help specialized retailers to deck out the units for their customers as they require it.
-
I think it was really also bad luck involved, this does not always happen. Regarding the black bar, have you checked the post by @win32asmguy about taking his unit apart?
-
Obviously too late now but the XMG bios will be good enough for: 155W GPU and 170W CPU in combined use 128GB memory @3200 with relaxed timings and overall very stable operation. Of course we always like to push things but taking apart the x170 isn't that much fun and if you want to continue to try a few things with the bios you may want to think about a cutout in order to be able to reach the bios chip the next time around.
-
Same here, no XTU for me and CCC is for now gone completely. I only tried the free version of the Obsidian software and it intermittently stopped working when in maximum fan mode and would revert to auto mode. At the time it was not possible to try the full fledged version and even then people (not you) reported issues with the X170 series so I did not want to spend the money and needless to say it was not much longer until Obsidian went out of business. With Clevo Fan Control things have been very relaxed and I even ported over my system SSD to another X170 without any issues except of course for my Windows registration. Very nice and no issue at all that very important hardware (chipset, CPU and GPU) changed - very nice.
-
Whatever is missing it seems to be the best of the rest and what is most important for me is that at least here it runs stable and does not cause any issues which I cannot say about CCC, Obsidian or RLEC viewer that all gave me trouble sooner or later. And that is not even taking into account that CCC is also a hideous monstrosity.
-
Just use Clevo Fan Control, it is decent enough when you only have two fans, discussed in this thread: I talk about it a little in the last post, here is a screenshot: I have found that with the bottom cover attached I usually gravitate to the Min 30% on AC setting as it is the minimum that still allows good temps. Without the bottom cover less is possible and this is what I currently use as it lowers my SSD temps by up to 25C.
-
MSI seems to think that the Titan is worth about 1000$ more for its added features when equipped with comparable memory, GPU, CPU and screen which seem to be: - part-mechanical keyboard - new touchpad that is higher quality and also easier to clean - 270W CPU and GPU combined vs 250W for the Raider - vapor chamber - 400W GAN charger that is both lighter and more compact the downsides would be: - trackpad has to be illuminated to know where its borders are - no fingerprint sensor - change of haptic feedback when going back and forth between arrow keys/numpad and the mechanical part of the keyboard - slightly taller at the front due to the new trackpad Personally I prefer the cleaner design of the Raider and it also has an RGB bar at the front. OK, just kidding about the RGB bar, I find that stuff hideous and would check if I could take it out, did that with both my Clevo X170.
-
Great to see that you are spending some time with it 😀 And yes, it would be rather cool to be able to put a 13900K or 14900K in there!
-
OK, so the best way to handle keyboard lights for me is to boot from an external drive and set the lights there via CCC. It will then be saved to bios but the downside is that nothing can be done any more with the keyboard lights from then, I cannot even switch off the keybaord lights. Tested with both the X170KM-G and X170SM-G
-
Coming back to open RGB after unsuccessful previous attempts. Yesterday I swapped my system drive and my Clevo not only reverted back to its nasty blue default but without CCC I am not even able to switch off the keyboard lights 😞 Has anybody had success with a program like open RGB and is currently using it for per key RGB configuration? I would really like to finally color-code some keys but at the moment the only way to do that looks to be a multi-boot system where I boot into an installation that I only keep around for setting RGB without the nasty CCC polluting my main system.
-
The nice thing about the 3080 is that its power consumption is quite low. Are you running it at 150W? In any case the performance is better than a 200W+ 2080 Super. I have a 3080 coming that will go into my X170SM-G which should be the best of both worlds - 4 useable SSD slots, 10 cores and a GPU with 16GB memory 🙂
-
Nice! You might want to try the 180W bios - scored more or less the same for me as 200W and should allow you to go beyond 11K.
