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Precision 3470 has not been formally announced, but the spec sheet is live. It could launch soon along with the other Precision 3000 & 5000 systems. Alder Lake P CPUs Up to 64GB DDR5 RAM 14" 1080p panel NVIDIA T550 graphics (4GB) - optional Precision 7X70 spec sheet pages have been posted, but are locked down at the moment. [Edit] Someone posted 7670 and 7770 spec sheet pages — https://www.docdroid.net/JzfmNLV/precision-7670-spec-sheet-pdf https://www.docdroid.net/FjViEwl/precision-7770-spec-sheet-pdf Have other stuff to do right now but I will digest and post back soon.......

Feedly for me. I switched over to Feedly after Google Reader died. They presented a similar interface with the same keyboard shortcuts, so it was an easy transition. It is a paid product, but I just paid for a lifetime license so I'm not doing a monthly fee or anything. I generally prefer desktop apps over cloud services, but in this case I rather like having a cloud service. I'm very invested in RSS to keep up on various things and being able to get to the same feed from my desktop or from my phone is very handy. "Read later" bookmarks or article categorization gets synced between the two, of course. Feedly also recently introduced an "RSS feed generator" function which is great for sites that do not offer RSS feeds. You give it a URL and it gives you a page preview. You click a link on that page and it generates a CSS selector to find similar links on the page. It will then generate a feed based on that so new articles or whatever will be caught and injected into the feed. You can also subscribe to public Twitter accounts or YouTube channels and they will show up in the feed as well. You can also set up feeds based on Google News searches, or just keyword searches that will search all feeds that Feedly knows about and put articles that hit the search criteria into your feed. (I used that to be in the loop on breaking information on specific upcoming products.) I don't use the "Leo" AI assistant thing; I'm pretty manual with how I have the feeds discovered and organized but their front page promo-material is really focused on that feature. I like this view with just one condensed list of everything from all feeds sorted chronigically. I can blast through it with keyboard shortcuts.

Thanks for the feedback. Indeed, if the 128GB CAMM module was DDR4, I was thinking that maybe I'd just get a 64GB CAMM module (DDR5) and see if they would release a 128GB DDR5 module in 2023 for the Precision 7X80 systems. But, 3600 does seem to be the correct speed for 128GB @ DDR5, so it looks like all of the configurations will be DDR5. When I was looking at "example configurations" I guess I ignored the very high capacity workstation DIMMs, which I should not have. Also, 3600 is probably a bit too high for that amount of memory at DDR4. Lower speed doesn't bother me too much (presumably CL will also be lower). @Peksha, I guess if they can offer a module that uses 128GB via two channels, it makes sense that they could offer a module using 64GB via one channel. I think that Dell's goal with CAMM is to be able to offer high-capacity memory configurations with less physical space than 4 SODIMMs need, so it will probably be sticking around for future generations (and maybe it will even spill over into other product lines like Alienware, as DGFF did). Hopefully, the modules will have some degree of compatibility between systems and generations. [Edit] Crazy to think that 128GB of RAM will fit on a single CAMM card. Looking at the photo, though, it looks like there is some room to make the CAMM card longer and stick another row of memory chips on it.

So, this is interesting. I found these entries in the parts list — some CAMM, some DIMM. 128GB is listed as "1×128". Also, I think the bottom chunk is for modules purchased separately as aftermarket upgrades (hence placeholder prices). It also lists a 128GB option, so it seems that you could buy a single module with 128GB capacity. Maybe there is just one CAMM slot, and if you use the SODIMM interposer/adapter, it somehow provides two SODIMM slots via the single CAMM slot? Also... 128GB is listed as 3600 speed and not 4800? Is it DDR4? If that's the case, I will have to think harder about the tradeoff. [Edit] Yesterday's leak photo does specifically say 128GB DDR5. I can't find anything out there on existing DDR5 modules that run at a speed that low, though. [Edit 2] Looking at "NS" (non-ECC) options vs. CAMM, the SODIMM route seems to be a little cheaper. We'll see if that holds true when you can actually order a system.

It looks like the left-side port configuration is (back to front): Power, Ethernet, HDMI, USB A, USB C, USB C (No space in between the ports really.) ...So, with no mDP, it seems like a sure thing that the DGFF physical form factor is changed. ...I can't even figure out how they could have HDMI attached directly to the card, like they have had in the Precision since DGFF was introduced. (You'd think surrounding Ethernet and USB ports would need to be attached to the main logic board.) So it may be the case that the HDMI port connects though the system display mux (like the USB-C ports do on the Precision 7X30-7X60) and the DGFF card has no direct output ports at all. (Edit: Especially the case since the CAMM card seems to be pretty close to the HDMI port as well. The CAMM card would be near the CPU. The DGFF card must be more on the other side of the system.) You can see a CAMM module illustration in this picture. Lots of memory chips piled on. Presumably, these would be double-sided like DIMMs are, so there are just as many on the other side. Not sure but it seems likely to me that there are just two of these slots and one of them will still be hidden under the keyboard. Weighing out 128GB RAM vs 64GB ECC RAM and I'm definitely leaning towards the former. DDR5 does have on-die ECC which does have partial protection (fixing errors in memory on the chip, but not errors in transmission). This guy explains it pretty well.

7770 has similar “cutouts” in both the bottom chassis cover and the display enclosure, so it seems like it will have a similar hinge. At the very least, it should be able to lay flat 180 degrees again.

Cool, that’s from the same guy who “leaked” the stuff I posted yesterday… First photo of the 7670 (completely assembled anyway). Nice thin bezels (can’t see the top though). Chassis cutouts do appear to be to support the hinge, which has a new design. 7670 has “thin” or “performance” chassis options (as @yslalan mentioned). OLED display, 16:10, 500 nits. CAMM is a Dell proprietary interface for memory modules, as I speculated. It seems that you can somehow install SODIMM modules, with an adapter, but you have to use CAMM to get 128GB of RAM in the system. So, probably CAMM is just about increasing memory density (per module) and saving physical space over SODIMM.

It's been understood for a while now that Alder Lake HX ("S-BGA") will not have an integrated PCH like the H series CPUs do. It will be a separate component on the motherboard like it is for the Alder Lake S (desktop) CPUs, and also like it is with Tiger Lake H45. I believe this allows for a more robust PCIe configuration than you could get with Alder Lake H (full 16-lane PCIe4 GPU connection + 4×4 PCIe4 NVMe drives, etc.). A5500 (mobile) and RTX 3080 Ti (mobile) both use the GA103S chip from NVIDIA with practically identical specs. A difference that I saw is ECC vRAM for the A5500 (and A4500). Going any higher would require a GA102 chip which doesn't seem feasible for a laptop right now.

https://twitter.com/emerald_x86/status/1508116954137174016?s=21&t=usGWt7rq1RSkAh4lnQu2iw Computex starts May 24. Not sure if this is real, but, notes: 64GB max ECC memory? Not sure what this business is with CAMM interposers for the memory. Is CAMM a new replacement for SODIMM? I can’t find any information about this; maybe it is Dell proprietary like DGFF? PCIe4 for all NVMe slots. Looks like you might need a battery upgrade to fit 4 NVMe drives in the 7770. (Not that worried about it saying A5000 instead of A5500, probably a misprint of sorts, there is ample evidence that A5500 is coming to both systems. Thought that only one of them was getting Intel Arc graphics, though…)

"System (Enhanced)" can cause window layout issues in some apps, so just be on the lookout. "System" will pretty much always work for apps that don't handle scaling well, but it introduces a sort of blur effect as the app is just bitmap scaled up from 100% scaling.

I will check this out ... Thanks.

I need access to the Windows advanced power options that are hidden when it is enabled. (PCIe link state power management, maximum processor state, etc.) I saw someone mention that these are no longer hidden in Windows 11. Haven't checked that out yet, myself.

Do you have the "enable direct discrete display output" option enabled in the BIOS? Try flip/flopping it and see if that changes the behavior. (The NVIDIA HDMI audio output driver would not come into play if this option is not enabled, as dock displays would be driven by the Intel GPU.)

Good sleuthing, thanks for sharing. It's good context. @yslalan posted here as well, providing the poster a few posts up. (Looks like I'm not the only one eager for 7770 info 😀.) I believe he has been keeping an eye on this thread so it makes sense that he would have seen the parts list links that I posted. (Not that they're that hard to find on your own...) [Edit] I didn't pay much attention to that screen shot in the article but I just looked and I realized that the storage drives are bogus as well; they are showing 3× Intel P5318M 15.36TB SSDs, which seems impossible for a laptop. [Edit 2] It also says 1000 nits display? Yeesh 😕

I can say that turning off memory integrity is fine. Windows 11 actually ships with it off by default. If it was enabled on your system, it is because Dell decided to set it that way. That said, I have no idea why Photoshop Elements would need to load a device driver. It could be to support some hardware (scanner or camera input?) or it could be some crazy way that they implemented basically DRM to make sure that the software is “genuine” or licensed appropriately. The DPI stuff is on Adobe to fix. I know that some of their software works well at 100% and 200% scaling levels, but not so well at in-between scaling levels.

Some articles dropped overnight. ([Edit] Fake news, disregard. Keeping for context only.) Looks like there is an "Intel W12985" CPU in the mix. This is a workstation-class Alder Lake CPU but without the "Xeon" branding? (This CPU does not presently show up in the Dell parts list, which was refreshed yesterday.) https://www.ithome.com/0/613/048.htm Google Translate: IT House reported on April 14 that Intel's new generation of mobile processors for workstations have been exposed, and they are equipped in Dell's new Precision 7770 mobile workstation. According to the "Beast Ancestor", this mobile workstation is equipped with Intel's new W12985 processor, 8 large cores + 8 small cores, 30MB L3 cache, and a maximum of 5GHz. IT House has learned that there is currently no 16-core model for the 12th-generation Core mobile processor, and the i9-12900HK is 14-core and 20-thread. The W12985 is already close to the specs of the i9-12900 desktop processor. Prior to this, it was reported that the processor model supported by the Intel W680 platform was no longer the "Xeon-W" series, or named Core-W. In addition, Dell's new Precision 7770 mobile workstation can be equipped with up to 256GB of DDR5 memory, equipped with an RTX A6000 professional graphics card, four hard drive bays, and a 17.3-inch 4K screen. (The bits with 256GB of memory and a A6000 GPU seem suspect to me... Are they mixing it up with the desktop workstations? In that case, maybe W12985 is actually a desktop CPU? Brief searches for info on this CPU model seem to just point me to very new articles that refer back to this one.) A number of other outlets refer back to this article, like: https://wccftech.com/dell-readies-insane-precision-7770-workstation-laptop-with-intel-w12985-16-core-cpu-at-5-ghz-nvidia-rtx-a6000-16-gb-graphics-256-gb-of-ddr5-memory/

I can say that you don't have to go to Properties / Compatibility and check that box, at least not for all apps. I know because I've never touched that setting and I've had Office 365 apps automatically popping back open after a restart. I don't know the "ins and outs" of this... I actually prefer to decide which programs open after restart and when, so I have turned the "automatically reopen apps after restart" feature off in Windows Settings.

Makes sense. I have a similar workflow... but I just move the two tabs next to each other and use Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn to switch back and forth. (PgUp and PgDn are actually aligned horizontally on my keyboard so maybe that helps it make sense.)

So... Starting with 2021 Tiger Lake (11th gen) systems, Dell has changed how fan management works, and existing techniques to control the fan speed manually do not work. AFAIK, no one has figured out manual fan control for the newer Dell systems (be it under Linux or Windows). That said, the system's "automatic" fan management is much improved and more granular than before. Older systems jumped between a few different discrete fan levels based on operating conditions, and you could definitely hear when the fan level changed. The newer systems operate the fan on a smooth curve and it ramps up and down gradually. My Precision 7560 (11th gen) runs the fans between 1000 and 1500 RPM under a light "office" workload, which is inaudible. The fan becomes audible at around 2000 RPM. Prior systems didn't have any automatic fan speeds between "off" and "≈2400 RPM", so you would always hear it if it was on. User @Steerpike mentioned that he did not hear the fans at all in an XPS 17 9710 (11th gen) during his time with it. You can further keep the fan speed down by limiting the CPU speed. I keep turbo boost disabled unless I'm running a CPU-intensive task. Turbo boost can be flipped on or off pretty easily on Windows, as you can tie it to a power profile; I'd think there would be tools to handle this on Linux as well. Undervolting is still possible. You have to change some EFI variables to enable it, and then you can just use regular tools to manage undervolting under Windows or Linux. Intel runs their CPUs closer to the margin now, though, so you likely won't be able to do a >100 mV undervolt.

Amazing... Thank you for sharing. This is additional confirmation that Turing GPUs work fine in these machines, if you can find one (and get it to fit). Pascal GPUs tend to cause an ACPI-related BSOD at startup on M4800/M6800 and just hang up in the BIOS on M4700/M6700, unless you have a specific ES VBIOS that can be flashed on. I'll share these old posts regarding doing an INF mod to get the NVIDIA driver to load cleanly, if you are so inclined. https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/precision-7530-precision-7730-owners-thread.820539/page-253.html#post-10937563 https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/precision-m6700-gpu-upgrade-k5000m-to-m5000m.807061/page-3#post-10797664

This feature is only available in Edge. However, you can switch tabs in any browser with Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab, or Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn.

https://notebooktalk.net/forum/92-xps/ If there is not a thread for your system, feel free to make one...

I have "modern standby" disabled and I don't see an option for "Sleep" with BIOS 1.10.1 either. I didn't worry about it too much yesterday (after installing the update) — my organization blocks Sleep through Group Policy and I have to jump through hoops to enable it — but I checked the powercfg output just now and it looks the same as @Ionising_Radiation.

I just updated to BIOS 1.10.1 (from 1.5.0) without issue.

Very interesting, thank you... I grabbed just the bit from the Precision systems (a bit easier to see here on the forum if it's not so vertical). OCR: 移劫端3 系/5 系新增14 寸工作站 3470/5470 7670 提供戏机身版本（経便版／高性能版） CPU 升级！ 全新Intel 12 代Alder Lake CPU ，性能提升25% , H 系高性能，部 分提供P28 版本 內存升级！ LPDDR5 內存，性能提升 15% GPU 升级！新一代高性能RTX 造璜，提供Intel 夸此狓晁(5470/7770) 人性化没计，防盜亻考感器( MWS 5/7) 更小的适配器(MWS 7) 硬件低盔光 Al 近汤沢別和快速登入2.0 Optimizer 軟件优化、散熱优化 包裝100％使用可回收材料 MWS3 系零部件，风扇l 屯池框架采 用可回收材料 桌面端3 系全新没计， 3660 性能強劭 (27 升） 最高125W 高性能12 代灶理器， 68% 性能提升 最高128G 支持DDR5 4400Mhz 內存，50％ 性能提升 可造RTXA6000 高性熊GPU 提供液冷方案，最高降低26％的温度 和33％的信噪比(3660VS3650) Google Translate: Added 14-inch workstation 3470/5470 for 3-series/5-series 7670 is available in a game body version (Scene version / High performance version) CPU upgrade! The new Intel 12th generation Alder Lake CPU, the performance is improved by 25%, H series high performance, some provide P28 version Memory upgrade! LPDDR5 memory, 15% better performance GPU upgrade! A new generation of high-performance RTX design, providing Intel's praised Xingchao (5470/7770) Humanized design, anti-theft sensor (MWS 5/7) Smaller adapter (MWS 7) Hardware low helmet light Al Kinyuzabetsu and Quick Login 2.0 Optimizer software optimization, thermal optimization Packaging is 100% recyclable MWS3 series parts, fan and pool frame are made of recyclable materials Brand new for desktop 3 series, 3660 powerful performance (27L) Up to 125W high performance 12th generation cooker with 68% performance boost Up to 128G supports DDR5 4400Mhz memory, 50% performance improvement Can build RTXA6000 high performance bear GPU Offers a liquid cooling solution that reduces temperature by up to 26% and SNR by 33% (3660VS3650) Analysis: Despite being mostly focused on the Precision MWS systems, they seem to have some Precision desktop bullet points in here. They did report Precision 3470 which has not been widely reported and has not yet been announced by Dell. (Precision 3470 has been observed in the parts list and in registration filings.) It looks like they are claiming Intel Arc graphics only for 5470 and 7770. We already knew 5470 was getting it, and a high-end Arc GPU has appeared in the parts list for the 7X70 (just one entry and not two), so this seems to line up. The release dates are not in the infographic, but 4/19 for 3000 and 5000 seems reasonable. 5/10 for 7000 is a bit earlier than I thought, but not entirely unrealistic. They are clearly working on these systems, so maybe they will be available almost immediately after Intel's announcement of the HX line? (Still no real hint on exactly that will happen, AFAIK. I had been assuming early May, but it could come yet this month.) In the 10+ years that I've been following them, Dell has never had the high-end Precision MWS systems available immediately after a CPU launch, but there are a lot of things that are unusual about the Alder Lake rollout. ...Anyway, I'll believe it more if the 4/19 date is accurate, we'll find out next week.