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I will check this out ... Thanks.

I need access to the Windows advanced power options that are hidden when it is enabled. (PCIe link state power management, maximum processor state, etc.) I saw someone mention that these are no longer hidden in Windows 11. Haven't checked that out yet, myself.

Do you have the "enable direct discrete display output" option enabled in the BIOS? Try flip/flopping it and see if that changes the behavior. (The NVIDIA HDMI audio output driver would not come into play if this option is not enabled, as dock displays would be driven by the Intel GPU.)

Good sleuthing, thanks for sharing. It's good context. @yslalan posted here as well, providing the poster a few posts up. (Looks like I'm not the only one eager for 7770 info 😀.) I believe he has been keeping an eye on this thread so it makes sense that he would have seen the parts list links that I posted. (Not that they're that hard to find on your own...) [Edit] I didn't pay much attention to that screen shot in the article but I just looked and I realized that the storage drives are bogus as well; they are showing 3× Intel P5318M 15.36TB SSDs, which seems impossible for a laptop. [Edit 2] It also says 1000 nits display? Yeesh 😕

I can say that turning off memory integrity is fine. Windows 11 actually ships with it off by default. If it was enabled on your system, it is because Dell decided to set it that way. That said, I have no idea why Photoshop Elements would need to load a device driver. It could be to support some hardware (scanner or camera input?) or it could be some crazy way that they implemented basically DRM to make sure that the software is “genuine” or licensed appropriately. The DPI stuff is on Adobe to fix. I know that some of their software works well at 100% and 200% scaling levels, but not so well at in-between scaling levels.

Some articles dropped overnight. ([Edit] Fake news, disregard. Keeping for context only.) Looks like there is an "Intel W12985" CPU in the mix. This is a workstation-class Alder Lake CPU but without the "Xeon" branding? (This CPU does not presently show up in the Dell parts list, which was refreshed yesterday.) https://www.ithome.com/0/613/048.htm Google Translate: IT House reported on April 14 that Intel's new generation of mobile processors for workstations have been exposed, and they are equipped in Dell's new Precision 7770 mobile workstation. According to the "Beast Ancestor", this mobile workstation is equipped with Intel's new W12985 processor, 8 large cores + 8 small cores, 30MB L3 cache, and a maximum of 5GHz. IT House has learned that there is currently no 16-core model for the 12th-generation Core mobile processor, and the i9-12900HK is 14-core and 20-thread. The W12985 is already close to the specs of the i9-12900 desktop processor. Prior to this, it was reported that the processor model supported by the Intel W680 platform was no longer the "Xeon-W" series, or named Core-W. In addition, Dell's new Precision 7770 mobile workstation can be equipped with up to 256GB of DDR5 memory, equipped with an RTX A6000 professional graphics card, four hard drive bays, and a 17.3-inch 4K screen. (The bits with 256GB of memory and a A6000 GPU seem suspect to me... Are they mixing it up with the desktop workstations? In that case, maybe W12985 is actually a desktop CPU? Brief searches for info on this CPU model seem to just point me to very new articles that refer back to this one.) A number of other outlets refer back to this article, like: https://wccftech.com/dell-readies-insane-precision-7770-workstation-laptop-with-intel-w12985-16-core-cpu-at-5-ghz-nvidia-rtx-a6000-16-gb-graphics-256-gb-of-ddr5-memory/

I can say that you don't have to go to Properties / Compatibility and check that box, at least not for all apps. I know because I've never touched that setting and I've had Office 365 apps automatically popping back open after a restart. I don't know the "ins and outs" of this... I actually prefer to decide which programs open after restart and when, so I have turned the "automatically reopen apps after restart" feature off in Windows Settings.

Makes sense. I have a similar workflow... but I just move the two tabs next to each other and use Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn to switch back and forth. (PgUp and PgDn are actually aligned horizontally on my keyboard so maybe that helps it make sense.)

So... Starting with 2021 Tiger Lake (11th gen) systems, Dell has changed how fan management works, and existing techniques to control the fan speed manually do not work. AFAIK, no one has figured out manual fan control for the newer Dell systems (be it under Linux or Windows). That said, the system's "automatic" fan management is much improved and more granular than before. Older systems jumped between a few different discrete fan levels based on operating conditions, and you could definitely hear when the fan level changed. The newer systems operate the fan on a smooth curve and it ramps up and down gradually. My Precision 7560 (11th gen) runs the fans between 1000 and 1500 RPM under a light "office" workload, which is inaudible. The fan becomes audible at around 2000 RPM. Prior systems didn't have any automatic fan speeds between "off" and "≈2400 RPM", so you would always hear it if it was on. User @Steerpike mentioned that he did not hear the fans at all in an XPS 17 9710 (11th gen) during his time with it. You can further keep the fan speed down by limiting the CPU speed. I keep turbo boost disabled unless I'm running a CPU-intensive task. Turbo boost can be flipped on or off pretty easily on Windows, as you can tie it to a power profile; I'd think there would be tools to handle this on Linux as well. Undervolting is still possible. You have to change some EFI variables to enable it, and then you can just use regular tools to manage undervolting under Windows or Linux. Intel runs their CPUs closer to the margin now, though, so you likely won't be able to do a >100 mV undervolt.

Amazing... Thank you for sharing. This is additional confirmation that Turing GPUs work fine in these machines, if you can find one (and get it to fit). Pascal GPUs tend to cause an ACPI-related BSOD at startup on M4800/M6800 and just hang up in the BIOS on M4700/M6700, unless you have a specific ES VBIOS that can be flashed on. I'll share these old posts regarding doing an INF mod to get the NVIDIA driver to load cleanly, if you are so inclined. https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/precision-7530-precision-7730-owners-thread.820539/page-253.html#post-10937563 https://www.nbrchive.net/forum.notebookreview.com/threads/precision-m6700-gpu-upgrade-k5000m-to-m5000m.807061/page-3#post-10797664

This feature is only available in Edge. However, you can switch tabs in any browser with Ctrl+Tab/Ctrl+Shift+Tab, or Ctrl+PgUp/PgDn.

https://notebooktalk.net/forum/92-xps/ If there is not a thread for your system, feel free to make one...

I have "modern standby" disabled and I don't see an option for "Sleep" with BIOS 1.10.1 either. I didn't worry about it too much yesterday (after installing the update) — my organization blocks Sleep through Group Policy and I have to jump through hoops to enable it — but I checked the powercfg output just now and it looks the same as @Ionising_Radiation.

I just updated to BIOS 1.10.1 (from 1.5.0) without issue.

Very interesting, thank you... I grabbed just the bit from the Precision systems (a bit easier to see here on the forum if it's not so vertical). OCR: 移劫端3 系/5 系新增14 寸工作站 3470/5470 7670 提供戏机身版本（経便版／高性能版） CPU 升级！ 全新Intel 12 代Alder Lake CPU ，性能提升25% , H 系高性能，部 分提供P28 版本 內存升级！ LPDDR5 內存，性能提升 15% GPU 升级！新一代高性能RTX 造璜，提供Intel 夸此狓晁(5470/7770) 人性化没计，防盜亻考感器( MWS 5/7) 更小的适配器(MWS 7) 硬件低盔光 Al 近汤沢別和快速登入2.0 Optimizer 軟件优化、散熱优化 包裝100％使用可回收材料 MWS3 系零部件，风扇l 屯池框架采 用可回收材料 桌面端3 系全新没计， 3660 性能強劭 (27 升） 最高125W 高性能12 代灶理器， 68% 性能提升 最高128G 支持DDR5 4400Mhz 內存，50％ 性能提升 可造RTXA6000 高性熊GPU 提供液冷方案，最高降低26％的温度 和33％的信噪比(3660VS3650) Google Translate: Added 14-inch workstation 3470/5470 for 3-series/5-series 7670 is available in a game body version (Scene version / High performance version) CPU upgrade! The new Intel 12th generation Alder Lake CPU, the performance is improved by 25%, H series high performance, some provide P28 version Memory upgrade! LPDDR5 memory, 15% better performance GPU upgrade! A new generation of high-performance RTX design, providing Intel's praised Xingchao (5470/7770) Humanized design, anti-theft sensor (MWS 5/7) Smaller adapter (MWS 7) Hardware low helmet light Al Kinyuzabetsu and Quick Login 2.0 Optimizer software optimization, thermal optimization Packaging is 100% recyclable MWS3 series parts, fan and pool frame are made of recyclable materials Brand new for desktop 3 series, 3660 powerful performance (27L) Up to 125W high performance 12th generation cooker with 68% performance boost Up to 128G supports DDR5 4400Mhz memory, 50% performance improvement Can build RTXA6000 high performance bear GPU Offers a liquid cooling solution that reduces temperature by up to 26% and SNR by 33% (3660VS3650) Analysis: Despite being mostly focused on the Precision MWS systems, they seem to have some Precision desktop bullet points in here. They did report Precision 3470 which has not been widely reported and has not yet been announced by Dell. (Precision 3470 has been observed in the parts list and in registration filings.) It looks like they are claiming Intel Arc graphics only for 5470 and 7770. We already knew 5470 was getting it, and a high-end Arc GPU has appeared in the parts list for the 7X70 (just one entry and not two), so this seems to line up. The release dates are not in the infographic, but 4/19 for 3000 and 5000 seems reasonable. 5/10 for 7000 is a bit earlier than I thought, but not entirely unrealistic. They are clearly working on these systems, so maybe they will be available almost immediately after Intel's announcement of the HX line? (Still no real hint on exactly that will happen, AFAIK. I had been assuming early May, but it could come yet this month.) In the 10+ years that I've been following them, Dell has never had the high-end Precision MWS systems available immediately after a CPU launch, but there are a lot of things that are unusual about the Alder Lake rollout. ...Anyway, I'll believe it more if the 4/19 date is accurate, we'll find out next week.

I haven’t seen anything like this from MS. Grouping is coming back, it is available in current preview builds. I am using Start11 which has a good “Windows 10 style Start menu” option, if you actually preferred something like that.

Refreshed the link, try again. (Expiration is now 2022-12-31. I keep hoping that I can get a new build out, but I do not have time to work on it.)

Downgrade is free and installation media can be pulled from Microsoft. (Just make sure to install the same edition of Windows that the system came with, Home vs Pro.) https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO

There, I am just describing the normal behavior of the laptop under EC control (i.e. not using fan management software). With “automatic control” there are more speeds available than with manual control…. you cannot force it to one of those speeds though.

For Windows 11 specifically, there is a tool called ElevenClock for customizing the date/time display. https://github.com/martinet101/ElevenClock

For desktop systems, ECC support with Alder Lake requires the W680 chipset from Intel. I saw this article earlier today, it looks like this chipset is just now starting to roll out. I'm sure it'll show up in new Precision desktop models soon. (Highly doubt that the mobile RTX GPUs will be that close together in price when we see the actual order configuration pricing. They would never sell any A4500's...)

http://laptopforum.net/ and http://notebook-review.com/ also appeared, and both of those have since closed down.

Checking out the Dell parts list again... Precision 7X70 chassis parts seem to have some real prices now and not placeholder "$99,999.00" prices. Alder Lake HX CPUs are now showing up in the Dell parts database. It looks like everything on offer is 8P+8E, except for the i5-12600HX which is 4P+8E. (i7-12650HX, previously leaked as 6P+8E, is MIA.) Only this batch at the end has prices listed... The i7-12800HX hasn't shown up in online leaks that I have seen, but the rest of these have. I think that the "V" and "NV" stand for "vPro" and "no vPro"... The list seems incomplete. Note — Parts prices might not line up with the prices offered as config choices when ordering a system. Also found NVIDIA GPUs. (16GB means this A4500 is the mobile version and not the desktop version.) That's a surprisingly small price difference between A4500 and A5500. Only one entry for each of these GPUs... So either the parts haven't all been entered yet, or 7X60 and 7X70 are sharing GPU cards. (This might be just the 7X70 GPUs because there is no A2000 listed.) [Edit] The parts spreadsheet has all of these GPUs listed together. There are multiple entries for many of the GPUs (presumably 7X60 and 7X70 versions). There is also a GeForce 3080 Ti lumped in with the RTX A-series GPUs, so maybe Dell will be offering up that option again as well. (Maybe 3080 for Precision 7670 and 3080Ti for 7770?) Looking at the same codes in the parts database dump, it appears that there are doubled-up GPUs in there... They just don't have consistent names so I didn't catch them at first. [Edit 2] Found this pile of memory options. Hard to know if it is for the Precision 7X70 or not. It does go up to 128GB ECC (holy cow $$$), so the only thing it could be for I think would an upcoming Precision desktop with W680 chipset? (Currently available Precision 3X60 desktops do not appear to support ECC memory, and I don't think that they have any DDR5 servers out yet either.) On one hand, there are some LPDDR5 options mixed in to the same batch (not pictured) so that makes me think these must be laptop memory options. On the other, we have no hard indication that Alder Lake HX systems will support ECC memory at all.

M6600 is known to have issues with NVIDIA GPUs. Some kind of BIOS conflict. I would not expect Maxwell GPUs to work. I've heard a couple of people saying Kepler GPUs work but more people saying that they don't work. Unfortunately... AMD is really the only way to go for GPU upgrades with this system. (If you can somehow manage to trade up to M6700 then there are more upgrade options. A lot of parts can be moved forward like the display panel, memory modules, drives, ...)

Honestly, it could be beneficial to be able to upgrade on your own timeline without being nagged. But, support for Windows 11 version 21H2 Home/Pro will end by the end of year 2023 (well before Windows 10 support ends). It might be possible to extend this by shoving in patches sent to Windows 11 Enterprise users, but not by more than one year as Enterprise edition support ends by the end of 2024. As end of support approaches, Windows 11 users running "unsupported hardware" will have to decide whether to stay on 21H2 (and forego security updates), jump through the hoops necessary to upgrade to Windows 11 version 22H2, or switch to a different OS.