johnksss

I'm using MemTweak version 1.01.7 which seems to work across most version of Windows. Which I think is from 2012... Which can be ran as a portable application.

No, you are 100% right. GPU's are way to expensive and paying more has since become the norm. Take it from a guy who has had pretty much 4 GPUS up to the 1080 series, then dropped down to dual GPU's and now 1 GPU.😂 I even Drove to Las Vegas Fry's from California to pick up 4 Titan X's one year. That was just over 4600 dollars.🤦‍♂️😂

If you are referring to me. I'm not even remotely mad about anything nor am I trying to get political either. I made a statement of fact and that was it. I also stated what was my opinion vs what is fact. Nothing more.

🤦‍♂️ 1: Overpriced = 95% of everything on the face of this plant. 2: MSRP (Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price - The word you are looking for is wholesale pricing.) = Quit moving the goal post. Since you have no clue what the pricing scale is around MSRP, but in certain instances I 100% know the answer to that. Why? Because the nature of my work and the field of business I'm in and the companies I have as clients. 3: 2020 Covid = A slow down to a halt of a market that was already in disarray due to shortages in foreign countries Starting with memory chips and and very bad yields. All Covid did for them was help them to catch up. Gave them the time to fix the problems while the world shut down.(My personal opinion and not a statement of fact) 4: Pricing = Sorry but none of my stores(With the exception of MSI who were selling their cards at scalper prices on Amazon and eBay) where charging eBay - Craigs List - Offer up - Guy on the corner with RTX box astronomical prices. What they did have was MSRP, sleep overs in front of stores, list, lines with the hope of getting a card. And yes they had scalpers (All kind of people chose this route. Not just 100% scalpers. I was in some of these lines and watched people get cards and then sell them, but in line talking a good one about gaming and not selling their card.)selling the 1 card they got right in the parking lot. My 3090 came from EVGA as MSRP 1999.00 before they raised the price to 2069.99, but I understand you consider this to be fake news. So lets post some more fake news that isn't fake news. Not sure where you were at when this was going on, but those of us that bought cards through EVGA seem to have gotten the best deals out of the whole mess. https://www.thefpsreview.com/2021/01/13/graphics-cards-prices-continue-to-rise-due-to-tariffs/ https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-and-evga-increase-prices-of-for-their-geforce-rtx-30-graphics-cards PS. The part about the fps in game lobbies was off topic, the rest wasn't.

I think you miss understand. And it is fact that tariffs and the former president did indeed cause prices to up higher than they already were. Not sure how you cant see that when they came out and flat out said it. That was already after the chip shortages, bad yields, crypto mining, memory issues, scalper's and normal people looking to buy cards.... And as far as pricing. Everything has been over priced since the beginning of time. So there is nothing new there either. A Titan GPU opened at 999.99 in 2013, Titan X at 999.99 in 2015, 1080 at 599.99 in 2016 while a 1080 TI opened at 699.99 in 2017. Not sure where you get 1000 dollars from but ok. In 2018 nor 2019, it still wasn't 1000 dollars either. The prices started jumping from the 10 series to the 20 series TI card at 1099.99 (Titans are in the same realm as TI cards). 2080 starting at 699.99 so still normal pricing but of course more than a 980.(I'm only using high end cards that I bought in these examples) I also said covid was the excuse people were using, i never once stated that they were not over priced before hand. Only one of the many reasons the prices kept going up. Edit: Also my pricing is from the MSRP and not Ebay wishful 25,000 dollars for a gpu thinking prices either. And current gpu prices are starting to also drop due to what? You guessed it. Tarrifs expiring and all those shipping contains that were stuck at sea, in ports, off shore and what not now have finally made it into docks and were unloaded and sent to where they needed to get to. thus now flooding the market so that them stupid ass scalpers make zero extra money now. Looking real stupid.

Sort of off topic with this but hear me out: Let me ask you this....Exactly how many lobbies have you been in where people are bragging about how many FPS they get? Or how many times you end up in the same lobby do they try to brag about a "gazillion fps I'm getting" and people actually care to listen? Or how high their resolution is? I know I sure as hell don't get anyone doing that on a regular basis or even on a super less than casual basis. And if they were in our clan they would get kicked the hell out if their KD is .30 bragging about having a maxed out setup. At the end of the day, that is a forum thing. If im running a raid I sure don't want to hear someone talking about how many FPS they are getting and yet we are failing the raids because they cant even play.😂🤦‍♂️ Okay, on topic. as to the whole covid thing with gpus going up in price is not accurate. it was because of Donald J Trump and his war on tariffs that cause that. Along with shipping lane disasters. Covid is the excuse lots of folks want to blame for everything.

Nah, not like that. More or less making jokes, but I do prefer dogs over cats. 😂 Yes, borrowing a pet is far better than actually owning one as you get older. When you get tired of them you can send them home.😂 Now that you have unleased the power...Any new benchmarks from it? I can grab a 3090 TI from MC as they have them in stock. Although I most likely woundn't as my motherboard is still not back from MSI.🤦‍♂️

If it has rather useful and pretty accurate information (Kingpin 3090 Display), then I'm onboard, but sure as hell wont be posting no stupid cats! That's 100% a no. Now a nice German Shepard, Malamute, Husky or Lab, sure.😂

Okay, going to have to retract. Software seems flakey after all.

I do remember those days! I got rid of the board so wont have a chance to revisit that situation.... And as far as I saw it seem better to use fan curve because using manual could do as hwinfo did in the early days. When it surpassed the max limit it would basically cut power to the fans. (Alienware)

Now why he using one or Mr. Fox's disses. Don't he know that @Mr. Fox has these diss words and phrases trademarked!😂

Depends on your bios. If it was unlocked by Prema then chances are fair he may have unlocked that option in the advanced CPU menu. Not sure what your bios looks like though....

Short answer. It was to answer your own question, considering you were already 10C over on the KS.....So....You would need to go back and retest my friend.🙂 My answer was only to see where it bottomed out and using 115C for that particular test would have answered that ceiling question you had. Yes, this is true. KS=90C and K=100C. OEM added after Intel opened their mouth when at that time it was 105C up from either 90C/95C or 100C. Then it went to 110C, 112C (Speculations on the 110/112 ranges) then 115C depending on manufacture and chip over the years. The higher setting is not for you to run it at that, but to cover the spikes. Example. If you run Cinebench R23 it will spike really high temp, but as the benchmark runs the temps start to fall. (For a bencher that can make or break a run. That spike temp hits the wall and). Ergo we try to have proper cooling in place as to not even bring that into play.🙂 Also well known is that intel CPU's have an internal temp monitoring system that will not all the chip to run faster than that temp will allow it. I had tried explaining that along time ago but was met with resistance. And the ranges I was talking about started at 50C and below under load. And when you go subzero brings in another set of bins.... I have to also say, not really caring about chip degradation as I wont have this chip that long and it's under warranty. lol

Yes. 385W at 14C water. And you didn't get the Intel memo when they were the ones that came out and said it was fine to run up to 115C like since what, the 10900K days? Also in the grand scheme of things....it's not temps killing Intel cpus, it's the voltage. Now temps might kill an AMD CPU though, but then that is speculations on my part as I would never let an AMD CPU over heat, but an intel cpu, sure, no problem. as they dial back when they reach the set max temp, not just get hotter and hotter. This comes from past experiments and just plain user error when I found these things out. So no reviewer or surfing the net to get the answers. 🙂 edit: Also that 385W run was with 5.5Ghz/43 E core/45 cache/LLC8/1.4V/Load 1.288V

14C Water vs 28.4C Water

You thermal throttled because you did not change your max from 100C to 115C.... So that also means you would have pulled more watts... Not sure on the 5.4, but i'll check it in a few.

On the Hero it picks up at least 7 of the 8 fan headers. And it picks up 2 fan headers for the KPE. RGB Software seems to not work as intended.... I'll have to revisit if I have time left.

Yes, I do remember them being very adamant about air cooling and ac was for the birds and blah blah blah. I also remember a lot of this stuff that is now common practice I was doing way back in the day and was considered "wasting money" "I don't have the time for that" "No way my other half was going for that" "What sane person does this and that." "Who stands out side to bench a computer or use free cold air from a window to cool your pc" "or Mr Moo and his portable freezer." And the list goes on..... 😂Yet, I have seen that line of thinking completely change over the years. Where reviewers now act like that is the norm, when they were talking smack about it when they first came out with tech stuff. But.....as they say, the world is changing.... You either change with it or get run over..... So maybe they now use AIO cooling.😂 Also been using my Lamptron's 20Wx4 purchased in April of 2017 and 60Wx5 purchased in April of 2018. Right now it's only controlling the memory fan, but it's usually on my SS with 4X5200 RPM 30W fans attached. It use to control my fans for my laptop fan setup as well. Very good controllers. But when I'm not benching, I don't need everything to run redline. It just only needs to work as a normal functioning machine. And using easy to use software without having to change a bunch of things I'm cool with. My car does 156MPH, doesn't mean I'm going to be doing that every day from light to light.

Just did a 5.5Ghz test on the KS and it ran 385 watts.

That fan controller looks real promising. And already the replacement caps on a 7980XE, but those were from a cracked die 7980XE though.

Didn't pass brother @Papusan , but still a decent run though.

Guess what? What are the odds? 😂

This benchmark is a cpu benchmark so the higher the speed the faster it runs.

These are the gpus that finally made it off the ship from being stuck at sea for like over a year. And they threw in a few 3090 TI's for good measure.😂

I mean you are removing the CPU from the loop. Using just a heat sink or aio so the gpu can run free. And if testing just the CPU then just slap on a basic GPU with no water block. Best to keep one of those laying around for trouble shooting. Once the problem is solved then you can put it back to looking all nice and cute. lol Also to add...the scaling is different for CPU than it is for GPU. the CPU can run a lot hotter and keep the same clocks....Not so much for GPU. And if the water is 20C and your gpu is not about the same or lower (at idle)by a few degrees... You may need to take the block apart and check the tim spread and the thermal pads.