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Pretty sure your GPU score is no where near theirs though....That would be the real take away here I'm guessing....

CPU is on the chiller while the GeForce RTX™ 4090 SUPRIM LIQUID X 24G is an AIO.

Chiller for CPU or 4090 GPU?

Sitting at a menu screen is not the same as actually sitting where things are happening. And windowed mode is less taxing than full screen 4k mode. It gives a fake sense of you having something good, but in reality it's not. speculations of course...I could be talking out the side of my neck.😂 CyberPunk 2077..... Lasted 28 seconds before it crashed with me trying to make it to the city.😂

You are right, wish he would have actually tried the memory as the some are far better than others, but it's like to 20 series in laptops. To much memory takes from the power you have for the core and thus causes the card to either run out of watts before the core can reach full potential or crash. Not really sure what sitting at a screen accomplishes, but ok. I'm in.

I'm pretty sure it was user error this time. Meaning my fault and not the fault of the board itself. (Board is in RMA - So sitting at MSI right now) So not sure. If it gets fixed or replace, cool. If not then I'll probably grab the Z790 APEX or the Z790 Dark as I am not sure if they are coming out with a Unify-X Z790.....

Some did report that the CPU Force 2 Rating changes, but could be based on cooling. Who knows.... As MSI doesn't seem keen on explaining in depth how it works.... Although I guess I would need to actually ask them first.

"For more clarification" Yes, this had me confused as well considering the card was not even out yet. Considering the system will not even ring up nor process an NDA or not for release item for sale. Manager stated the person in question had it wrong and that he meant the 3080 Strix

Okay, so I can now boot 8000 on the Hero Z790, but not fully stable and am stable @ 7800.

Right now it's 1.4 across the board. Edit: I'm also not using my Unify-X as it's at MSI. I'm using my Hero Z790 Board at the moment. And it seems to be potentially stable at 7800 for the moment.

You were not lying when you said AMD was laughing!! 😂😂😂

Yes, I have ran across this issue myself, but it hasn't happened in a while. Talking about being stuck on 8 and 4 lanes. I had to pull the card reset the bios and boot in a different PCIE, then put it back and eventually 16 lanes came back. And I think you might be right with something going on with the bios....I'm trying to work through it now to see if it is somewhat like how it was with the 20 series in the laptops.

I sure hope it gets better than that with 700W! I really hope it's because of the 8X lane and not something having to do with how the card was constructed. People are already doing past 3100 with out modding anything right now. And 134 is low for that many watts being pulled.

I had to check my second card and my same cable for smoke, fire, brimstone and melting effects on the tips of my 12VHPWR cable and nothing as of yet. Even held my fingers on the cable to check the heat of the wires them selves and the over clock GODs have said.... Nope! Not yet. You are still "SAFE", for now. 😂 This now brings into question why the HOF card may or may not have two plugs.....Along with being may be more power hungry than 600W....

Actually I was thinking the same thing....And also wondering why no comparisons against the competition this time around. Sounds a bit suspect, for gamers, but I'm just thinking out loud. Edit: @Papusan I do not think it is going to kill anything off. The pricing is still part of NVidia's base model. "Always charge higher than AMD" If they buy they buy and if they don't....then we sit and wait to see what happens....

I just seen that myself. I may be getting an AMD card instead. LOL

Coil wine is there and so is the pump. The wine isn't the high pitched type, but it is clearly there.

Hummmm, I picked up the Suprim X liquid and I'm not impressed at all! Memory is very subpar apposed to the Zotac "trash" card. I have a ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO still sitting there that I need to go back and pickup when I return this ROG MAXIMUS Z690 HERO. Also found out that people with a microcenter account have 45 days on GPU return. Who knew. and 30 days on CPU's.

I just left my MC and they have..er ah, had 4080 Strix in stock.

Just push the M.2 closer to it's socket and it should come right out. Now this is where I definitely disagree with the room. I'm more for less using screw drivers when I'm constantly changing things. For a permanent build then it would be fine. Losing or striping screws gets old real fast! Edit: To broaden that aspect to water cooling quick connects and the PCIE push button release. To screwless cases.

Hummmm.... 1: The braiding is only on the two 12VHPWR cables only. 2: It is loose meaning the wires move easily inside when turning or bending the cable in different directions. And can also be made to fit some what in a flat condition. 3: The reference to my T2 is that the braiding on "all" cables is tight. So if you bend it the cables stay in their rounded form. 4: I gather the braids on this cable are to cover the fact that the wires inside are single strands. And the braided sheath is to make it easier to keep the single wires in check. (From what I can feel) And this translates across at least the 1200W PSU that I have from them. 5: And going by the picture once again. They "could" have taken a single 12VHPWR cable and cut it and added the two 8 pin PCIE connectors. Technically speaking as the wires are the same, but of course that cable would have come out to be shorter. Speculations of course.... Final conclusions.... The braiding is the same as on my 1200W PSU I have from them. Still holding up after 15 years. https://bjorn3d.com/2007/06/thermaltake-toughpower-w0133ru-1200w-psu/ So to answer the main question. The cable "looks" to be identical as part of the Gen 5 12VHPWR cable.

I'm not sure I understand the question? I thought I answered this. Looking at the picture that was posted and this one compared to mine they look identical from different ends of two different cables I have. I do not own a cable like the one pictured. So I have no apples to apples comparison other than I found it odd that that guy went back and changed that Aliexpress part of his comment. And the comment "how is this cable that is made by Thermaltake and sold by them vs my Thermaltake cables" from my Thermaltake power supply differ? I would think they would be the same quality as they are made and sold by the same company.(But that is speculations as I'm not about to be cutting mine open to find out) And I'm pretty sure they would not go out and by different plugs that take the same wires they already make their original 3.0 cables with. And his comment about "pins all over the place" the pins don't even move unless you are in there trying to break them to get them to move so you can say that. (12+4 connector) So I don't know...will just have to wait and see if they are crap or not, but going from mine.... They are solid so far. JMO Edit: Congrats on getting your new cpu though!

Using same voltage, but started lowering the sa voltage. Going to try to get that out of the way...maybe it's the problem as I was using auto at first.

I tried lower and it crashes during short TM5 test.