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Yep, a lot more difficult make it works in games than benchmarks from UL/Futuremark. Probably the main reason Intel delayed the release several times and also prefered to test it on the Asian market first. Good luck to those buyers of Clevo's new high end gaming laptop (270X) that will replace the older real Clevo gaming laptops as 170Xx and P870xx. They will pay the ultimate sacrifice for helping Clevo maxing out profits with guinea pig graphics cards from Intel. Intel Arc A730M: Even with official driver support, the gaming performance remains miserable Intel Arc A730M High-End Mobility GPU Still Slower Than RTX 3060M Despite Latest Drivers, Reviews Show Lackluster Gaming Performance https://wccftech.com/intel-arc-a730m-high-end-mobility-gpu-slower-than-rtx-3060m-despite-latest-drivers/

Yep, I stay away from hyped products. Either they are defective, flawed or just pure junk. But people want it so……. That’s what we’ll get. Don't Believe the Hype: Apple's M2 GPU is No Game Changer https://www.tomshardware.com/news/apple-m2-gpu-analysis

Ain't it fun with Ryzen processors? @Mr. Fox Pick your poison/cancer! What Agesa version would you prefer? Maybe roll the dice?🙃 And do you enjoy pay some money in different lotteries? You could win as you know. But you have a lot bigger chance to loooose. See it this way, the winner takes it all.... Always the one who offer the lottery. Conclusion You can say a lot of bad things about this Agesa, but she also does a lot of things right. The RAM runs stably, even if sometimes with incomprehensible hurdles, the performance drops slightly and at the same time it is bought with more temperature. For overclockers who don't use the Curve Optimizer, this Agesa is simply useless. It also brings advantages. The USB problem as well as the TPM stuttering is finally over and I'm particularly happy about that. I never really had any problems with the TPM, but I did with the USB slots. So my mechanical keyboard liked to write “oooooooooooooo” with an o keystroke and then work again without any problems. See you next Mallllllllllll. With the Agesa 1.2.0.7 the problem is off the table. And since I generally only overclock using the Curve Optimizer, Agesa 1.2.0 is my choice. 7 actually welcome. The only thing that triggers me here is the loss of performance paired with the higher temperature. For anyone who just wants to use the new Ryzen, Agesa 1.2.0.7 is mandatory anyway, on an older mainboard paired with Zen3 as well. The Agesa is also recommended for normal users who just create XMP, precisely because every previous Agesa also had problems with XMP profiles, sometimes. And anyone who has problems with USB or TPM stuttering, which is by no means everyone, should definitely use this Agesa. I am ambivalent especially with 5800x users who use a not so potent cooling. The temperature could quickly become a limiting factor. And for overclockers who really want to tickle the last ounce of performance out of the CPU, hands off! Agesa 1.2.0.3abc is and remains the first choice here. Apparently, it turns out to me, the Agesa 1.2.0.5 and .06 were testagesas to get the stuttering problem solved. It seems to me that with some processors the signal rates have collapsed during load changes and that is why the stuttering. I have no idea how AMD solved this exactly, but less clock plus higher temperature, paired with "caps" says a lot. Agesa 1.2.0.7 Can she what? And if yes or no, what can it do? A comparison to Agesa 1.2.0.3. deskmodder.com

Not LGA-2551, Intel Socket V1 (LGA-1851) for 14th and 15th Gen Core Series has been leaked Contrary to the previous information, the new socket for desktop Arrow Lake and Meteor Lake-S series is not LGA 2551 but LGA 1851 instead. The 2551-pin version could be a BGA variant for other series, but as leaked today, it will probably not be used for a desktop LGA socket. As reported by Benchlife, the 2551 pin socket is currently not listed by Intel product planning for desktop series, but it might be used by BGA packaged products some time later. If this is correct, Intel have learned from the compatibility mess with Socket LGA 1151 (v2). Yep, I upgraded from i7-6700K-i7-7700K-8700K and 9900K on same old socket. Add a few more pins for same socket then you don't have to talk about compatibility screw up above 2 gen chips. Fantastic work Intel. LGA 1151 v1 was the socket for the 6th and 7th generation chips. Intel re-used same socket also for 8th and 9th gen chips. This means Intel didn't want people with 4 core chips to upgrade to next gen 6 and 8 cores chips eeven if the socket was good enough for that. How difficult was it to make a new socket with enough pins from the ground of for compatibility with more than 2 gen chips, same as AMD ? Was this nice trickery (add 151 pins) done only due maximizing profits down the road? If AMD can make it work, then should also Intel be able to do as well. And how much did Intel pay UL/Futuremark for the help with tuning their new garaphics cards? Both cases show ugly works from Intel. I hope they will have to pay for their greed. INTELARC A730M Practical tests show a discrepancy between 3DMark and games So far, Intel's discrete Arc graphics cards have been characterized by their absence. First tests of sold models are ambivalent. Intel’s High-End Arc A730M GPU Is Barely Faster Than An NVIDIA RTX 3050 In Gaming, BETA Drivers Won’t Start Some Games in DX12 Either What makes this worse is the fact that the RTX 3050 Mobile is an entry-level solution while the Arc A730M GPU will be aimed at high-end gaming laptops. We don't really see the 'high-end' action in these benchmarks though. https://wccftech.com/intel-high-end-arc-a730m-gpu-is-barely-faster-than-an-nvidia-rtx-3050-in-gaming/

They have probably done a great deal with Intel. What people get doesn't matter. As I said... You get an large trackpad. + some RGB. Maybe thats enough for the gamer kids🤔

What I don't understand... Why suddenly the need for 50% more pins on a minstream platform. Remeber AMD most liekly have to support AM5 several years down the road. Maybe to add in some gimmick that they need to offer to try compete with AMD's real cores? I just can't see why they need so many more pins on the socket. Or just because this is only a real scam to try lure people "why they need new MB"? More junk on the PCB may need those extra pins. https://wccftech.com/intel-14th-gen-meteor-lake-s-desktop-cpus-confirmed-in-leaked-drivers-tiled-chips-for-mainstream-pc-builders/

The beauty with Intel. Let you have the chance to upgrade your MB. Maybe they are able to fix their flawed loading mechanism (ILM) design with a new socket? Intel 14th Gen Core desktop “Meteor Lake” allegedly requires new LGA-2551 socket It would appear that the rumors stating Intel will keep 3 generations on the same socket are untrue. In the fourth quarter of 2023 when Intel is expected to launch a new desktop series codenamed Meteor Lake, an entirely new socket might be required. And look at this beaty.... Wouldn't it be nice with 32 Baby cores bro @Ashtrix 😀 More cores has to be good (8P + 32-E cores). Intel know exactly how to improve/compete and please the performance enthusiasts.... Very fast P-cores for single threaded tasks and loads of baby cores to help the few P-cores in multi threaded tasks. Jam, Jam. Nice. 15th Gen Core Arrow Lake The Lion Cove/Skymont cores might already debut with Arrow Lake. These new microarchitectures were previously rumored for Lunar Lake. As mentioned in previous leaks, the 15th Gen Core would not see an increase in Performance cores, but Efficient cores count would double over Raptor Lake, now counting 32 in total.

I prefer the cheaper variants from Gelid as the Gelid GP-Extreme pads over the Ultimate. They offer lower Thermal conductivity (12 W/mK) but is softer and more forgiven in use (and cheaper). Higher Thermal conductivity just means the pads will be harder/more stiff and more difficult to use if you struggle with variable hight differences. The end results can often be even worse than lower specked Thermal conductivity pads. No guaranteee that all will get exactly same good results from same type and brand thermal pads. ------------------------------------------------------------------ I wonder what this card will cost if it will be a reality (only rumors). NVIDIA’s Ultimate Ada Lovelace GPU Could Be A Titan Class Behemoth: Rumored To Feature 48 GB & 24 Gbps Memory, Full AD102 GPU, Dual 16-Pin Connectors For Up To 900W

Sure, Newer has to be better. Even more secure. Isn't that correct bro @Mr. Fox? Do yooo need glasses my friend?🙃 Please, stay in the thread so we can help you see the light 🤗 Microsoft Windows Security Updates May 2022 overview by Martin Brinkmann on May 10, 2022 in Windows Updates - Last Update: May 10, 2022 - 10 Microsoft released security and non-security updates for its Windows operating system and for other company products on the May 2022 Patch Day

Some think the OEMs still make and deliver proper DTR laptops. They are all gone and Dead! All you get is thin an slim. Aka Apple designed laptops with Windows as OS. The sad truth. The tech reviewers don't know what they talk about. Enthusiasts laptop, LOOL CLEVO Teases Its Next-Gen X270 Enthusiast Laptop With Intel’s Flagship Arc A770M 16 GB Discrete Graphics

At least its branded as a Desktop Replacement. And you get a large trackpad The information in the XMG roadmap that this is a "desktop replacement" also fits the Clevo X270's equipment, because the device relies on a 17.3-inch screen and a 99 Wh battery. Clevo unveils gaming laptop with Intel Arc A770M, liquid metal and mini-LED display notebookcheck.com And Tom said a long time a go that we won't see a LGA/MXM machine from Clevo. The controversial trend about laptops is here to stay. New Hw but same old sins. Nothing seems to will change in the laptop industry. All you can do, is sit down and see that everything goes from worse to worse. As "one-way ticket to Hell". MSI Katana GF66 test: New hardware but old problem areas MSI's laptop also seems to continue to have problems with the cooling. The TGP and TDP are reduced so drastically, that although the benchmarks in various games still result in more than 100 frames per second, at the same time many other laptops with supposedly weaker hardware are able to achieve similar results. Even the highest performance mode or even setting the fan speed control to a constant 100% won't help here. Even if it is at a high level, the gaming laptop quickly runs out of steam.

Not sure if all the different brands did it. But it depends if they followed nvidias guidelines (cooling reference design) or not. What they use, depending on the different model SKUs in same way as they do nowadays. GeForce GTX 580 Cooling Solution Detailed to Public NVIDIA GeForce GTX 580 GPU Features Detailed At PDXLAN Edit. http://ixbtlabs.com/articles3/video/gf110-6-p1.html Here's one very old variant of Linus 🙂

Just set proper settings in bios and the OS (those that don't match their new HW requirements) and you won't be forced into this tacky and ugly tablet OS. There is no need for people on older Win 10 versions to accept this shenigans. And if you are on Win 10 versions that won't get any more patches (EOL) there is no need to have any of the services for upgrades enabled. There is scripts and software out there that can handle this if you can't do it yourself.

They don't need help with ideas how to destroy own products. They just follow the trend. Max profits and how to make the products so bad that they know same fools will come back and buy a new machine the yeaar after. See. Now 5 up-votes of near 460 views. @Mr. Fox Aka there is still a few stupids out there.

After I cleaned the heat spreader and the copper base with isopropyl/alcohol, everything looked fine. But the vision can be deceiving. A round with Flitz polish shows that a good metal polish will find more dirt. Good quality isopropyl alcohol just show its not enough for the very best cleaning. Aka you'll need, 1 round with isopropyl/alcohol, then metal polish and then do the last finish with isopropyl alcohol.

Microsoft says Windows 11’s 3rd-party widgets won’t really cause performance issues Microsoft noted that these Adaptive Cards-based third-party widgets will always use “low memory and CPU”, and their adaptive interface will automatically style them to match the host/form factor experience. Use of "low memory and Cpu" just mean you'll use more clock cycles than without this feature. Aka Microsoft add in features in the OS that continue steal performance vs older OS. Isn't that correct bro @Mr. Fox ? If I put in 100 kg stones in my car I will loose the cars maximum performance (The more junk you throw in and fill up the car trunk, the worse it will perfom). I will even have to pay more in the gasoline bill. This reminds me about Apple's OS for phones. Add in more or less useless features you don't need, only to force people to upgrade their gear before time (the older phones run slower with newer OS because of more added bloat).

O&O ShutUp10++ 1.9.1431 [Updated] Released: 06/02/2022 1.9.1431 – released June 02, 2022 NEW: Disable diagnostic log collection NEW: Disable downloading of OneSettings configuration settings FIX: Disable connected experiences in Office FIX: Disable connected experiences with content analytics FIX: Disable online content downloading for connected experiences FIX: Disable optional connected experiences in Office FIX: Positioning of the dialog windows centered on the main window Available in German, English, French, Italian, Spanish, Russian and Chinese (simplified) ------------------------------------------------------------------ Windows 10 KB5014023 released, install the update for performance and fixes June 3, 2022 (for Win 10 2021 LTSC) 0 Windows 10 KB5014023 is now available for users in the production channel as an optional update. The optional update doesn't come with new features for the OS and it's available via the Settings app. As always, you can download the offline installer of Windows 10 KB5014023 to install the patch without running into Windows Update issues. Don't forget this patch update is a Guinea Pig version. In other words, it’s generally a good idea to avoid installing these optional updates unless you have a good reason to do so. If your computer is working properly and you do not have the issues mentioned in the release notes below, you should not install any of these optional updates.

ASRock Z690 Taichi Razer Edition Review: Less Zen, More RGBs Z690 Taichi Razer Edition sports all of the Taichi's features and specs with more RGBs and Razer Chroma integration for $620. ASRock have sold their soul to Razer. All to catch/grab the gamer kids/those that value bloatware over awesome. I have never understood why people is willing to pay more for “no added value”. I will never buy Razer again. Here's another failure if this results will be the fasit (yep, still rumors). Intel Core i9-13900K Raptor Lake Desktop CPU Could End Up 15% Faster Than Core i9-12900K & 35% Faster Than AMD Ryzen 9 5950X In Single-Threaded Performance.

Here's a few pics of the old paste and pressure testing of the Gtx 580. A huge old Nvidia heatspreader needs cheapest possible thermal paste. And Colgate toothpaste fits the bill 🙂 The owner said the card was repasted a few months ago. I opened it up to see and can't see he succeded very much in that. A bare die as they use nowadays is a lot better than this huge heatspreader. Not even sure if it's nickel plated copper as Intel do for their IHS. Cleaned off the mess. Btw. For those that haven't seen it. Clevo is soon out with a new High End gaming laptop Clevo X270 God have mercy with the buyers, if this is the successor to X170 (I don't even know what I would brand it - Joke or a Turd).

Yep, why brand it X270 if this isn’t the Xx70 successor? Is this a dark joke or is this the coming gaming flagship product from Clevo? Maybe @Premaknow. What I know is that Intel first will let the Asia’n market have their first desktop graphics cards before rest of the world (and I know Clevo also targeting that market). Expect Clevo will add (weld/solder) in next gen Nvidia graphics cards when they are officially out, spring 2023. Maybe earlier if Nvidia want/or demands it to stay in front of AMD..

Look at this. The the successor to the Clevo's High performance laptop. The replacement for the LGA / MXM monster Clevo X170 and previous Clevo P870xx series.. Say hello to Clevo X270. Is this a bad Joke or a bad dream? Want it bro @jc_denton @electrosoft ? Just don't forget that this new Clevo monster-book comes with a Turbbook Cpu from Intel. Pair it with Intel's new graphics cards and you can clearly see where Clevo went after a deacde with proper gaming laptops. What a sick sick world we live in. Clevo's X270 (opens in new tab) is a 17.3-inch gaming notebook powered by Intel's 12th Gen Core 'Alder Lake-H' processor and the company's flagship Arc Alchemist(opens in new tab) A770M mobile GPU that is cooled down using a dual-fan cooling system featuring seven heat pipes and liquid metal. Yep,a smart move from Clevo... Comments are turned off.

Hi bro Legi. The new MSI model fits very well in the thread 4 controversial laptop trends that shoud have never made it. Remember the old days MSI offered 200W graphics in their high end gaming laptops? Not anymore. The new GT model come with a shared Max TDP at 250W. Whats next? Go down to 240 or even 200W? One thing for sure.... Dual 280/330w power bricks isn't needed anymore due the thin design trend. The next will be offering a slim and pretty 240W USB-C adapter to power the most powerful laptops (gaming or creator models)... USB-C is about to go from 100W to 240W, ... - The Verge

As I said it depends on the laptop OEM. But for the XM you could clock both (still if the OEM let you do that). Confirming your statement and thats correct. Edit. See also... Intel QuickPath Interconnect - Wikipedia

You could play both with multi and bus speed. The XM was unlocked (how much/high depending on the laptop OEM).

Add more Cpu performance then have to cripple the graphics performmance further on already crippled mobile graphics cards. The (progress) trend continue. They should be ashamed of offering a product like this. How hard is it to make a refreshed cooler that can cool 5-10 more watts? But people want it so.... They'll get what they want (Yey another refreshed model with too weak and flimsy cooling). This is just sad. Dell XPS 17 9720 graphics is actually slower than on the XPS 17 9710, but CPU performance has improved Dell has quietly lowered the GeForce RTX 3060 TGP from 70 W to 65 W on the latest XPS 17 9720 series. The minor hit to graphics performance may be worth the more significant increase in CPU performance What a disgusting progress.....