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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Only Nvidia know the date. Different rumors pop up everyday ... GeForce RTX 40 launch date could be pushed back as Nvidia is reportedly preparing the RTX 4090 Ti with an "exaggerated" cooler design Nvidia may be planning to delay the launch of the GeForce RTX 40 GPUs if a new rumor from the prominent leaker @harukaze5719 is to be trusted. If the delay happens, it can possibly be due to deteriorating market conditions for GPU's... Intel your our Arc is already sinking. And this vs soon EOL graphics from your competitors... Why continue produce it? Intel Arc A380 Review: Great for Video, Weak for Gaming By Jarred Walton published 2 days ago Intel needs more than an Alchemist to save this sinking Arc -
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Thanks for the info bro @Ashtrix. The ugly colored Noctua fans is 3000 rpm versions. And of course they still come only in Black and with (brown anti vibration rubber). And not very cheap. Even more expensive if you on top need to ordere it from webshops from other countries (add 25% tax on the units you bought, shipping and the border tax handling - Tax always on top). Buy black anti vibration rubber to remove the brown mess from Nochtua will add more costs. Maybe Noctua does this to milk even more $$$ because they know some (many) hate the brown color? Why not offer both colors or just black rubbers on all their fans? Maybe it would cost them 50 cent (either add it on the cost or take it from their profits). How they do it doesn't matter. Just do it. Whats wrong with Corsairs engineers? How is this possible? Drunk when they was on job? The fan space on the rear/back side of the chassis is meant for both 120 and 140 mm fans. And this is what you get.... You'll need to use plastic strips for holes on the upper fan'. And why pop/weld on the 3.5" HD tray to the chassis? Why not use normal screws? To save further on costs? This reminds me about the laptop OEM's that weld on the Cpu/GPU on the MB: This to cut cost. They also cut down the cost with offfering two less of the 2.5" ssd trays. There is space for 8 of them but you'll only get 6 of them. How much did Corsair save on this? 4 bucks? I checcked up some of my old parts inventory from sub +- 2000's and I finally could find some UNC 6-32 screws for the EK radiator. From my findings... I have a few radiators and from 3 or 4 manufacturers. And of course they don't follow same screw spec standard. And EK have changed to the M3 standard for their radiators. Before or around 2020 they used UNC 6-32 screws. So its important to mark the plastic bag with what type screws you have if you have some leftovers. You never know when you'll need them. Lack of needed parts ain't fun. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Jep, enough space for fans in push and pull also for the big boy in front 🙂 I still can't grasp why Noctua jumped on poo brown colors. A pretty disgusting color. I need to cover hide the ugly brown color from Nochua with a nice black tape. Same for the ugly blue text on the top rad @electrosoft @Mr. Fox 🙂 -
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Fun project. Even one of the biggest chassis has to be picked into pieces to be able to fit some bigger/thicker radiators. 1000D is damn nice and big chassis and with a lots of space but fail if you want add in thicker/bigger radiators for best cooling. At least on the top mounting. Hence you need to do some modification’s for this chassis. But in the front there is enough space for 2x480 80mm thick rads with fans in push and pull. If I went with slimmer 45 mm rads in front I would probably be able to so without major changes for the top mount. Or just scrapped fans in push and pull. Push and pull is probably overkill for 45 mm rads thats placed on top, but I have to do the mod on top anyway, so.... Hope for 2x480 80 mm rads in front. And 1x420 45mm on the top. All push pull. Later if I get a water cooled GPU I will put the GPU radiator in front/or reuse one of the 480 mm in front for the GPU. This way so the Cpu and Gpu both benefits from colder air. The 420 mm rad on top will be connected to the Cpu loop as the cpu is more difficult to cool. Or I'll find and put 2x480 45 mm mm in top for a second rad for both the Cpu and Gpu. Many options as long you have a chassis that can handle 4 of them. Happy the chassis is big enough and not have cramped size as some prefer. Many ways to mount the radiator. But plastic strips it will be for now. This won't be showing in the finished build. And its easy to swap out if youlater want to change your cooling setup. The finished results looks good🙂 Swapped out the longer screws with the spacers and put them on top where you won't see them You can also see the brown gasket I glued on around the door opening to prevent unfiltred air to go into the chassis (the big unwanted gap between the door and chassis with the door closed was a real engineering flaw from Corsair). But this gasket mod have worked very well. And it's somewhat sad Corsair went cheapo for their chassis flagship and skrapped to send with a 2nd 8x120 mm fan tray you could use in top and not only one for the front. I expect the greedy bean counters at Corsair aw they could save 3-5$. -
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Hehe. I always walk in black clothes brother🙂Even the socks has to match the crocks🙂 And the dog is black. All black. And My wife and Kids nagging that I should change a bit on the style and start use some colored clothes, LOOL Guess what I tell them.... Nope, not me. But Grey is the nearest I could go for as a 2nd choice. Have a silver grey car. But the previous was black, HaHa Had to use spacers because the screws is too long. And more rads means more fans and even more screws. I have to use what I find home. At least one side of the rads have the faster 3000 rpm fans from Nochtua and EK. I put the different ones in front so I can swap them out easier. and I need more parts. Maybe I get them before Christmas?🙃 And very fun that I need different types of screws. M3, M4 Unc 6-32. Nothing of this here home. What a fun place have computers as hobby. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
A few more pictures. The Crock is still there bro @electrosoft🙃 I lack still a lot parts. Alphacool on top and EK on the bottom (45 vs 60mm thickness). Drying after flushing. And gota love quality. And yep, shipping takes a lot of time when we talk about Norway. Need more parts and/or you have to replace flawed parts it it will take up to two weeks. -
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The added baby cores for Raptor lake will save Intel's day. Or better say... AMD failed offer a real performance enthusiasts product. Remember Raptor lake will only offer 8 real cores vs AMD's 16 cores. The rest of the Intel cores is low clocked baby cores without HT intended for smartphones/tablets. Yep, AMD had no other choices this time than have to reduce profits for their flagship. In Geekbench V5, Intel Raptor Lake i9-13900K with 24 cores and 32 threads is 4.4% faster in single-core and 8.4% faster in multi-core tests than Ryzen 9 7950X. On the other hand, AMD’s new flagship CPU is 31%/47.8% faster than 5950X and 14.5%/41.2% faster than i9-12900K respectively. https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryzen-9-7950x-and-asus-rog-crosshair-x670e-extreme-also-tested-in-geekbench -
Thermaltake Intros TG-60 Liquid Metal Thermal Compound Techpowerup.com Today, 06:12 Thermaltake today introduced the TG-60, a high-performance thermal interface material made of liquid-metal. The TG-60 offers an extreme thermal conductivity of 52 W/mK, but comes with all the downsides of any liquid-metal TIM—it's electrically conductive, and requires that your CPU cooler's contact surface have nickel-plating (without which it will corrode through any exposed-copper surfaces, including copper base-plates, vapor-chamber plates, or direct-contact heat-pipes. Luckily the selection of nickel-plated copper DIY water-blocks and air coolers are fairly broad. The TG-60 includes an applicator, a nozzle with the syringe, and a cleaning gauze. The company didn't reveal pricing.
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The lack of 7800X in Zen 4 release smells ugly. Amd could do same as they did for 5800X3D. Only release an 7800X3D for 2023 and scrap the refreshes for the rest of the line. Maybe AMD will wait for Meteor lake. Some say Intel won't release it before 2024. But this is only rumors. If AMD go for a refresh it will be X3D stcked refreshes. Not real upgrades. And they are in the mercy of what TSMC will offer them. Both nvidia and Intel have a big foot within TSMC foundry now. Same also for Apple who always go for the newest nodes (their biggest customer). -
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What if AMD does the same as they did for 5000 series processors (let it live 2 years). New realased chips every second year, LOOL -
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Same can be said about some buyers/fanboys. They defend the brand over anything else. They just can't see there is several ways to heaven😁 God bless you bro @Prema 🙂 https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/amd-ryzen-7000-desktop-processors-launched-zen4-leadership-performance.298317/post-4823615 -
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Isn't the 7600X comparable to the 12600K? Intel charges MSRP at 289$ and is on the way to increase the prices for the whole stack with 10%. But not so sure they will do that for 13600K due the competition. 289$+10% will really be bad value🙂 Even the added baby cores can't make up for a in worst case 320$ deal (6+4 or whatever Intel will add of babies). -
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Too late bin 13900K now 🙂 And AMD couldn't charge huge premium over it's competitors product this time beacuse they can't offer a huge lead in performance as they did with 16 cores 5950X. Neither do they offer more threads than what Intel will offer with 13th gen processors. Hence we now see AMD changed price target down for 7950X. A huge win for the consumers. Just hope Nvidia is forced to do the same. And same for Intel. LOOL -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Intel have talked about 10% price hike for their chips this fall. 800$ means 33% premium above 12900K for a few extra added baby cores. Remember they now have the goolden chance to grab market shares from AMD. You don't do that easly with exactly same awful price point. And people have less money in their hands nowadays due the increased inflation/worse times. + the desktop sales have never been so low as now the last 30 years. Want more sales.... Just increase the prices, LOOL -
Intel Arc 31.0.101.3276 graphics driver with new Intel Arc Control 4741 as beta good Morning Aug 27, 2022 Intel has updated the graphics driver 31.0.101.3276 for Intel Arc, 11th and 12th Gen CPUs. As an innovation: with this driver, Intel Arc Control has been bundled in the driver package. This should simplify the installation, but also makes the driver package larger… And the Intel driver package is whopping 1.2GB (bigger is better bro @Mr. Fox ?). Yep, I who thought Nvidia had an awful big driver package, LOOL
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Enjoy.... https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/ryzen-9-7950x-allegedly-40-faster-than-5950x-in-cpu-z-multi-threaded.444366/page-4#post-6046405 See also... https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/ryzen-9-7950x-allegedly-40-faster-than-5950x-in-cpu-z-multi-threaded.444366/page-4#post-6046477 A sneeak peek.... Only rumors but if true 800$ will be too much. -
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Papusan replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Or just test with 8 cores/16 threads as you are allowed to on the bot for 12th gen because of the small wimpy small Baby cores (Hybrid arch). Just disable 8 cores on the 5950X and there will be apples vs apples. Look at the top 20, 50 or top 100 https://hwbot.org/benchmark/cinebench_-_r20/rankings?cores=8#start=0#interval=20 GTX 980... improved to 11th place🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5069714_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_980_79465_marks?recalculate=true -
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You normally don't need exotic cooling for a good binned 5950X and proper tuned mem running 5.0GHz. This means a score above 33.500 in CBR-23. And from what I know, none of the Intel 16 cores chips is able to do +33K on ordinary cooling. Even an 12900K/KS with SS will struggle come above 33K in the menioned benchmark. So spot on bro Johnkss in the post above https://hwbot.org/submission/5069674_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_980_77546_marks Edit. A better score. https://hwbot.org/submission/5069713_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_980_78991_marks?recalculate=true -
A new guinea pig version aviable for Win 10 Ent 2019 LTSC. August 23, 2022—KB5016690 (OS Build 17763.3346) Preview LTSC 2019 Prerequisite: You "must" install the August 10, 2021 SSU (KB5005112) before installing the LCU. Manual download: CU (Cumulative Update) 17763.3346 — KB5016690 August 23, 2022-KB5016874 Cumulative Update Preview for .NET Framework 3.5, 4.7.2 and 4.8 for Windows 10, version 1809 and Windows Server, version 2019 NDP35-472 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/07/windows10.0-kb5016713-x64_06795712a9bf5515c671e4f56f41e17b5a77dae5.msu NDP35-48 https://catalog.s.download.windowsupdate.com/c/msdownload/update/software/updt/2022/07/windows10.0-kb5016593-x64-ndp48_f15bf28d962e2f33576842131f6b6ce38a455d78.msu
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Got a used EK XE480 rad on the used market here home. This is an EOL model from EK but this one should still be in the top regarding cooling performance. Got it for around half the price vs Ebay or a new similar 60mm thick 480 rad from EK/Alphacool. Just sad I didn't buy both of them 1.5 week ago. Now I just need find a twin. So it will be 2x480 in the front and 1x420 at the top. God bless I bougth a big enough chassis, LOOL I think big is out. People want smaller and crampy chassis nowadays. Some call they even sexy. Hence a bigger chance for all to find used bigger rads. Here's the successor to the XE 480. And I had to paint over the awful silver/steel color to match my all black build. All has to be black as you know 🙂 https://www.ekwb.com/shop/ek-quantum-surface-x480m-black -
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Not yet. Need some help from my son. And my wife struggle with the health equal as for me right now. -
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AMD Ryzen 9 7950X “Alleged” Zen 4 CPU Benchmarks Leak Out, 16 Core Up To 40% Faster Than 5950X So in the best-case scenario, the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X will be slightly over 40% faster in multi-thread performance versus the Ryzen 9 5950X while the Ryzen 7 7700X is a little over 20% faster than the Ryzen 7 5800X. Around 40% uplift in performance is slightly too little to make the 7950X becoming the multi core performance king (the price for the 16 core chips will rumored to be above 800$). So AMD need at least give it +46% or better say 50% performance increase over older 5950X to defend the price and stay on top in multicore performance. -
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Thanks brother🤗 From what I have seen... 13900K will do sub 15K in CBR20. But AMDs coming 7950X chips need to increase the performance with ++40% to reach 15K as well. Remember the 7700X needed 26% performance increase to reach the CBR20 result over older 5800X. See also... The need for +65% performance uplift to compete (or 48% performance uplift vs a castrated Raptor lake) https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i9-13900K-demolishes-the-Ryzen-9-5950X-with-an-up-to-67-lead-in-multi-core-Cinebench-test-but-there-is-a-huge-power-cost.639516.0.html Not so sure 7700X will be a real 5800x successor, but from what I have seen, AMD won't push out 7800X at launch date. Not sure whats up. Maybe they want to go for the cheap Gaming king to grab attention first and later offer a real 5800 replacement at more premium price point. But the higher end Skus of Ryzen Zen 4 chips will crush Intel in Y-cruncher benchmarks who benefits massively from AVX512 (will be a real bloodbath). This if Intel still prefer robbing performance out from their mainstream chips. Greed beat common sense. Finally asked for the repair kit from Arctic cooling. They was very fast to send an email. -
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Did you run TS benchmark while Benchmate run in the background? You should test it different/several ways and after a re-boot. Both with and without benchmate in the background. Same also with and without clearing the CPU cache with benchmate. Always re-boot between the different ways to test. -
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NVIDIA CEO Confirms “Exciting New Next-Generation” GeForce RTX 40 GPUs Inbound, Unveil Hinted For Late September During its earnings call for Q2 FY2023, NVIDIA's CEO confirmed that their next-generation GPUs, the GeForce RTX 40 series, are coming real soon. Of course the Ampere graphics was popular. The mining boom showed that. Of course the Nvidia gaming revenue dropped down to 44% sequentially & 33% annually when you loose some of your main customers. Do jensen need a calculator or help to understand why this happened? "The cryptocurrency market has faced a bloodbath throughout this year which has resulted in used GPUs flooding the market and depressing prices - a deadly combination with the already low purchasing powers amidst record inflation" I hope jensen with this, is able to see where he should put the prices for coming 4000 series cards.