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My son's i9 spend most of its time in low 50C in 1440P gaming. 1440P is in raise on Steam. Up near 9% since last survey. And it will continue grow. And if you go with 4K. You trade in 4-5 more FPS for worse or lacklustre content creation performance. Not so sure this is a great deal. And this with an 4090 that most gamers don't have. Most of them will get an 4060/4070 cards forwards. +50% less performance for 4 FPS. Not so sure this deal would be so very appealing for bro @Mr. Fox <if> he still wanted a full AMD setup. You would need an proper AIO also if you went for an 7950/7950X3D. It would still run +90C in full load. But none of these chips run this sorts temps in games.

Yep. Intel can't do much in gaming vs the new v-cashe chips from AMD. The Raptor refresh for Z690/790 boards is meant to reduce market shares loss. Nothing more. But how many game in 1080P nowadays? And then you have... How many will benefits from the new Ryzen X3D chips with 3000 series mid tier cards or coming 4050 and 4070? How will this looks like if you pair the new 7800X3D with etc 4060/4070?

See below. But what is the Ryzen 7 7800X3D actually? An explicit gaming CPU with a luxury premium for the 8 cores wrapped up by the huge stack cache "or maybe" even a smart all-rounder that can do gaming excellently, but not only (email/web browsing and social media)? When used outside of the gaming universe, partial dropouts did occur from time to time and the CPU repeatedly showed itself like a Janus head with two faces. The X3D chips is the Console equals but for those gamers that want desktops. Then you have the 3rd type gamers... The laptop jockey's. The gaming on smartphones is when the gamers waqnt some free time from the desktops/laptops and consoles.

Yep, as I said the new X3D gaming chips is the computer worlds "console" replacement. And I don't only talk about the 7800X3D. All v-cashe chips is in short gamer chips.. The only difference between them is the price point. Exacly the the way the average Joe/gamer Joe want it... Plug and play. Exactly as with a Console 🙂 Just more expensive.

Hmmmmmm. Long story, short.... All you get is a gamer chips. Equal as a console. For one purpose only🙂 Btw. Going with AMD... Expect bugs. And expect they put all the works in the new and shiny. Exactly as bro Fox see with RDNA2. Baffling Windows 11 TPM Bug Is Wreaking Havoc On Some AMD Ryzen Systems A new TPM bug has surfaced on AMD Ryzen-based systems where the CPU’s built-in TPM module fails to be recognized in Windows 10 and 11, in spite of the module being activated in BIOS. This has been recognized by Microsoft, however, there is no fix at this time. This issue is a big problem for users who actively use the built-in TPM module for data encryption. This bug can prevent encrypted data from being accessed, and in a worst-case scenario prevent boot-ups entirely if the boot drive is encrypted. This issue is highly reminiscent of the AMD fTPM bug that was plaguing Ryzen systems a year ago, causing system stuttering to occur. But this new bug is substantially worse since the issue can prevent the TPM module from functioning at all. Yep, nowadays cards is fast as hell, but Nvidia need features to u-sell new gen cards. Just look at Nvidia's new gen laptop cards. Not much of a raw performance increase, but latest gen DLSS save the day.

Nvidia’s next goal is fully enabled path-tracing and fake frame feature v4. When current gen cards is more than fast enough for years forwards, they need find other ways to push you over on next gen graphics cards. And the game developers will be paid well to help make games harder to run. What a monkey business. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/rtx-4090-16fps-cyberpunk-2077-overdrive RTX 4090 Gets Just 16 FPS in Cyberpunk 2077 RT Overdrive Preview

Have you tested all drivers for RDNA2 before AMD released RDNA3 ? It seems AMD don't want fix problems for the older cards. All works is for 7000 series cards. I expect AMD only try make the games works properly with older cards with newer drivers. Bugs as you mention above is totally forgotten. This is the love AMD have given older cards the last months. Almost nothing! This is something you haven't seen from NVIDIA. https://wccftech.com/amd-has-not-released-a-new-radeon-driver-for-rdna-2-radeon-rx-6000-gpus-in-2-months/ More from 3070 🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5243489_papusan_unigine_superposition___1080p_xtreme_geforce_rtx_3070_10554_points https://hwbot.org/submission/5243496_papusan_unigine_superposition___8k_optimized_geforce_rtx_3070_5999_points https://hwbot.org/submission/5243483_papusan_3dmark___port_royal_geforce_rtx_3070_9636_marks

Still no 3060😁 Most of them ain't very new. I'm a slow jumping on the newest cards, LOOL But here's a new gold😎 https://hwbot.org/submission/5243465_papusan_3dmark___speed_way_geforce_rtx_3070_4005_marks

Sorry bro Ryan. The King have no 3060. But here is a new gold from 3070😎 https://hwbot.org/submission/5243415_papusan_3dmark2001_se_geforce_rtx_3070_207158_marks?recalculate=true I thought the new driver could work for you in for 3DMark but not for the gamers who try figuring out why their shiny Red cards bench3ed as garbage. Remember what not works for other may offer more for those that seeek awesome🙂

Her's a brand new driver you can play with. Bringing performance enhancements and addressing several issues😁 No crashes but 3DMark is a no go. Maybe try your luck. AMD Software: Adrenalin Edition 23.4.1 - Driver Download and Discussion Guru3d/forum Download: AMD Adrenalin 23.4.1 WHQL Software Update - Enhanced Gaming Performance & Fixes By Hilbert Hagedoorn on: 04/04/2023 08:38 AM | Today, AMD unveiled its latest AMD Software Adrenalin 23.4.1 WHQL update, bringing performance enhancements and addressing several issues. The 23.4.1 WHQL version offers optimization for the game "Meet Your Maker," along with additional improvements for "The Last of Us: Part 1," which were initially introduced in recent off-trunk drivers. Read more

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More Gold for @PremaMod Team😎 https://hwbot.org/submission/5242842_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_rtx_3070_50566_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5242846_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_rtx_3070_65874_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5242849_papusan_3dmark11___extreme_geforce_rtx_3070_22144_marks?recalculate=true Edit. Got this one today. Reached Level 10 on Hwbot Overclockers League🙂 Now I'm The King, LOOL

Double😎 Finally got 40.000 in 3DM Fire Strike with 3070 https://hwbot.org/submission/5242802_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_rtx_3070_40000_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5242791_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_extreme_geforce_rtx_3070_19979_marks Edit... https://hwbot.org/submission/5242823_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_geforce_rtx_3070_16897_marks?recalculate=true Edit. Forgot enable all cores for 3DM Time Spy and Time Spy Extreme, LOOL

Same driver, same OS and same graphics card. The only difference is what machine the card is put in. From 5th and down to 1th place.

Yep, a short adapter connector should be more foolproof vs their cable adapters that was the major culprit for black screens. People had to use the awful adapters coming with the cards for troubleshooting all their problems with 4090. In the end a quality problem/QC problem from CableMod.

@Mr. FoxDo you see the similarity between the two video's?

Windows 10 was up 11.62% while Windows 11 crashed -9.65% (Steam Survey). Latest and greatest knocked down with a fantastic punch @Mr. Fox https://www.techspot.com/news/98166-major-changes-steam-survey-new-top-gpu-language.html

Did it work? Yep, Hwbot Heaven bench is a mess. And I'm not so sure it would be so much better if it was a few years newer, LOOL https://hwbot.org/submission/5242103_papusan_unigine_heaven___xtreme_geforce_rtx_3070_10080.34_dx11_marks?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5242102_papusan_unigine_heaven___basic_geforce_rtx_3070_11376.12_dx9_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5242198_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_rtx_3070_36776_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5242201_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_rtx_3070_44546_marks Nice find brother Raiderman. But I don't think the RGB style is quite disgusting😆 Maybe more in the line what bro @electrosoftwant and expect from nowadays modern style?😅

I think you need test out with different drivers. This bench is quite glitchy and very picky. And you need run several benches to get to try get an ok score. Loads of people have many weird problems with this benchmark. Maybe a fun bench for bro @ryan 🙂 The fun part. When you posted I run Heaven on the 3070 🙂

CORSAIR VENGEANCE RGB DDR5-6000 32GB Memory Review by bro Fox

Not what I know of. I expect this is also a bug in combination with new modern AMD hardware. Works mostly with Nvidia cards. But this old bench is quite buggy... Enjoy negative FPS. And of course with AMD hardware😎 HWBOT Unigine heaven running backwards (no joke) Yep, This is what to expect from todays tech world 🙂

6.6GHz failed but the result is still ok with +6.5GHz. The highest ranked Cpu on water on Pifast leaderboard🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5241431_papusan_pifast_core_i9_13900k_(8p)_8sec_850ms?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/submission/5241433_papusan_unigine_heaven___xtreme_geforce_gtx_980_5204.81_dx11_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5240497_papusan_3dmark___speed_way_geforce_rtx_3070_3919_marks https://hwbot.org/submission/5240501_papusan_3dmark___port_royal_geforce_rtx_3070_9371_marks Btw. The new modern locked down AMD Ryzen 9 7900X3D running 90.0 degrees °C under load at 5093.2MHz with below 130W😆 Not even an Corsair 360mm AIO help much on this 12 core’s disaster. https://hwbot.org/submission/5239144_neurotix_cinebench___r20_ryzen_9_7900x3d_10440_cb

<To reduce pricing, the motherboards will not support the full range of Ryzen 7000 processors at their full power levels> Yep, make sure people is forced to buy their more expensive MB. Because it's bad for profits if people try go the cheap route if they want the X (X3D) chips. Great idea 🙂

Oh'well....

This smells as they could go to lawsuit if they wanted go that route. If one or several MB manufacturers can get the key from Nvidi but not the other they would have a good case. They have nothing to lose dragging nvidia to court. So why they accept it as is, is for me very weird.