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Dang. Over a year since I got the Apex board. But I usually put such email right into the trash-bin🙂

Where's the link for the Asus Product Survey? Thanks🙂 https://hwbot.org/submission/5236784_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_ultra_geforce_gtx_980_4213_marks/

All I see is a Cpu that jump all over the places. Even below 2.0GHz with +25% load. I think Dell will say... Use our fantastic feature TCC offset. So no need for undervolting, LOOL

Just enable XMP and you already voiding Intels warranty as this is considered “Overclocking”. But nothing different vs AMDs own rules regarding oc’ing and warranty.

Yep, can see this. But I prefer tinkering with different things. And soft tubing ease that up. So better for me. Be sure you leak test each part or the whole system before you fill up your loop. Much easier tracking leak problems afterwards with soft tubing. All depends how you put up your loop. Please post back when you have got your kit🙂

Yep, thats better. Here's the review of the block in that kit. Raijintek Forkis Pro RBW CPU Water Block Review techpowerup.com But I prefer soft-tube over Hard-tube. More flexible in all ways.

DDC Pump more prone to dump heat into the loop. They often have shorter lifespan than D5 pump. Not very impressed by this custom water kit.

Make you an build guide. Then check what every parts will costs from a good quality manufacturer. 200cm Tube is more than enough. Then compare what it totally will cost you. A bonus advice as last. Buy spare parts. You'll need it 🙂

Nothing stopped the laptop manufacturers in older days offer sustained power above 330W from the power adapters for older laptop models. Only the new and modern have a power cap well below the PSUs specs. Or around 250W. There is a major difference between +330w of sustained power vs castrate it at 250W from same type and brand power adapters. But I expect the power delivery welded on the tiny and cute MB in new and modern laptops is of cheaper quality to cut costs. The power delivery is most likely validated and built for higher peak power but not for higher sustained power above 250W. It's what it is. New and modern to cut costs.

Asus cater to different all types people nowadays. I forgot it bro. Sorry. I see you need it😎

Whats wrong with people nowadays? It seems all is grown up with smartphones and small tiny tablets. "Flere unge kan ikke lenger bruke en vanlig datamaskin" Direct translated into English below.... Several young people can no longer use a normal computer (behind paywall) https://www.aftenbladet.no/lokalt/i/OrWanO/flere-unge-kan-ikke-lenger-bruke-en-vanlig-datamaskin-holder-ikke-med-et-kurs There you have it bro @Mr. Fox Please can you tell me how a PC looks like? More like this? Maybe I'm too old to understand all these changes. Yep, definitely.

No need to cripple an 330W Delta PSU. It can handle power spikes above 400w and stay loaded well above 330W the whole day. What I see is a Cpu that stay in the low and middle 3GHz. Not the way I want to see my processors in use. This isn't much more different than previous gen laptops with Dynamic boost. An awful tech to save money and make all laptops as Apple clones. And it seems Dell continue offer 101C as temp target. So woorse than the Razor-books. Can't beat thermal engineer Travis North's fantastic thermal engineering on Dell's gaming flagship. What a Joke! Dell even locked you out from undervolting, LOOL From 1:02.20 Reset bios back to factory settings and send it back to Dell Alienware, LOOL See also the talk about Dell Alienware Command Center. What a disgusting mess.

The silicon lottery is real. Have it been this bad as with this new gen nvidia cards the last 4 years or two gen graphics? I talk more about the vram lottery. The so called best binned OC cards being crushed buy vanilla $1600 gamer cards. I really hope Micron soon get some competition in the high end. This variance isn't acceptable. You pay extra for OC cards for a reason. And not only for the better cooling. The OC tag means more than fancy cooling and back plate.

Never assume all boards have exactly same readout of voltage. And as I said the +1.52v you see from some CPU-Z screenshots isn’t the voltage they run at 🙂 Same also for Jokebooks. Mostly VID is showed and not real core voltage. What you see is what you think it is 🙂

Asus board has the diesense reading so the voltage you see is socket sense which is much higher. Load voltage is closer to 1.350v. And if you see voltage reading at +1.52v on a few screenshots it doesn’t necessarily mean you run voltage at that level 🙂 Then you have what priority you run the benchmark at. Above normal task priority in task manager the reading of temps and other values will be different/skewed so they won’t be 100% correct.

I have just an average and non delidded 13900K. Not the nice delidded KS as bro @tps3443 tested. But the results is still quite ok. I would probably get +6.1GHz in CBR-23 if I had it delidded and run direct die. It's what it is🙂 Sp111 on the P-cores so nothing special. Those will go into the Raptor refresh. https://hwbot.org/submission/5234780_papusan_cinebench___r23_multi_core_with_benchmate_core_i9_13900k_45337_cb

Maybe Linus and his workers should be more careful what they click on? "We can't blame YouTube for someone getting infected with malware, but we can lean on them to make the hacker's job a lot more complicated".

Dosn't matter if you chose the older Asus Z690 or newer Z790 boards. It just works. Probably because Asus is a bigger company and with more oc'ers that help with the firmware. Thats EVGA problem. They are too small. They lack resources and HW for in-house testing. This is also the reason they always come late to the party with the new and shiny. And don't forget... We can even install older Win XP on a few OC motherboards. See... Probably the reason Intel have hurry throw out Raptor refresh early this year. They aren't finished with next gen chipset and processors so they was forced to push out a refresh of the refresh. Buying a KS now so late in the 13th gen lifespan is for me stupid. Buy the refresh or just use what you already have. Gigabyte Claims Next-Gen Ryzen CPUs Arrive on AM5 This Year

This is on their table. It's the EVGA firmware that don't play well with all graphics cards. There is is even oc'ers that had to sell their Dark board or their new graphics cards to have a chance to play with their new siny +1500$ cards. They have to fix this. Not the consumers.

Maybe you should enjoy the AMD driver forum on Guru3d.... https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/amd-software-adrenalin-edition-23-3-2-whql-driver-download-and-discussion.447162/ But........... for the fix. Send a blessing to Jensen Huang😆 Regarding forum. Yep, even kids have manged better than this from Asus. Even babies. See and learn how not to do it @Reciever @Hiew This is pereverse. https://rog-forum.asus.com/t5/promotions-general-discussions/new-forum-appearance-worse-than-previous/m-p/918833#M54477 Asus closed down their forum for over a month for this new disaster. Yep, Asus just follow Microsoft. All is about phones and tablet nowadays....

Flashed latest bios from Asus. And gues... The newest fancy touch friendly Tile box OS from Redmond struggle with new hardware. Shouldn't it be opposite? Nope. All older OS have no changes but not the latest and greatest from Microsoft. So it has to be true that newer has to be better, LOOL @Etern4l I think ring is 45 for default 13900K. It show 50 default ring on Asus board without load.

Thats great 🙂 So todays question will be about quality. ASUS have gone totally bananas and manged to fully destrooy their already awful forum further. When do they reach the bottom? And in the work to make it worse, they deleted my nice puking avatar. But hey, they at least managed to get rid of the email notificationl I never was able to delete from the settings. So one step forwards but 10 or even 100 steps backwards. Asus forum is now on level with Dell's. Can't be any worse than this. This is damn perverse. New forum appearance worse than previous Anyone else thin the new lool is worse, information wise that is? Can only see 5 threads per page and that only shows when it was created not when last comment was.

Do you see the same?