Talon

Very nice! Seems like you got a golden chip for sure. Great SP, good VID balance and the IMC is strong. It's weird that the IMC seems to be improved across the board, like what under the hood changes have they made?

Nice! If the DDR4 side improved as bit too you should have an slightly better IMC.

LOL looks like my hardware closet right now. I am sitting here with a Corsair 7000D and the LF 420mm AIO in my cart on Amazon. Thinking about pulling the trigger and building it. I'm going to need the cooling when Raptor Lake arrives looking the leaks with more E cores and higher clocks. I have a feeling you're going to get an SP98.

Sorry I meant to type 5000. I used to have a Corsair 450d, still have it in the garage actually. Then I looked into it a bit more and found it can’t house a 420mm officially. So I may need to spring for the 7000 airflow. I think the 420mm cooler could really help though so I may go for it.

Thanks. Thinking about picking up the Corsair 6000D and grabbing an Artic 420mm AIO. I think it would be an absolutely huge case though.

Actually the stock RGB 140mm fans at the top are now gone. I have gone to some cheap-o basic black Artic P14s I got on Amazon in a 5 pack. I have them setup in push/pull so it's a tight fit in there lol. I have a lot of air moving through this tiny case. I want to change the Noctua fans to the new Chromax black version, but at $33 a fan I can't justify the cost yet lol. They work and that is what I care about most.

100% agree. They need to do a SKU with binned P cores, no E cores at all, and massive cache. His conclusion is basically how I see the chip. Also looks like you lose some of the performance if using an older motherboard which is interesting.

6Ghz out of Raptor Lake with light boost would be cool to see on regular cooling but I don't think were close to 6Ghz all cores anytime soon, or even 5.8ghz unless something has radically improved with Intel "7". For gaming that cache is going to be a nice improvement.. It's double the cache of a 12900K and will definitely help if you're chasing crazy high fps when looking at the sky or blank scenes during a benchmark that can all fit into the cache. I watched the review of the 5800X3D from various outlets this morning and it definitely looks like a great gaming CPU, but a 5600X, 5700x, 12600K, 12700K, etc all perform very similarly in games. They all cost less, and 2 of them offer far higher performance in everything else for less money. I went back and watched a GN review of the 9900K where he basically shits on the 9900K in the conclusion stating that in a nutshell it's a CPU for those that are neurotic over FPS and yet the gap between Intel and AMD was larger back then. Yet today he's basically falling over himself with praise for the 5800X3D that gets absolutely curb stomped in everything not gaming and value. It's hard to take a channel them or HWU seriously with their obvious bias. 5800X3D looks interesting for sure, I wish it was unlocked, I think I'd likely buy one to tinker with, but just like a 12900K/KS, it's a bad value for just gaming.

https://www.newegg.com/evga-geforce-rtx-3080-12g-p5-4877-kl/p/N82E16814487553?Item=N82E16814487553 Prices are being slashed all over today. It's great to see the bottom dropping out as the free money ends and the hangover is setting in. Can't wait to pick up a 3060 Ti for $200.

It's locked down, and completely boring to me. I don't think you can even tune the voltage which is crazy. It certainly helps in some games and doesn't as much in others, but were looking at 720p and 1080p results. While completely valid for CPU testing, it starts to make a lot less sense when you consider the chip is $449 and has less multicore performance than a $269 12600K. Which by the way can be overclocked to match a 12900K in gaming for the most part and at stock is shown to be only 6% slower than the 5800X3D AT STOCK. This chip is a Frankenstein failed experiment unless it is sold at a far lower price. It's no wonder why AMD is only doing this single chip and no releasing it for 7000 series. I guess where I can see this chip making more sense is for drop in upgrade for existing AM4. But then why not get a 5900X or 5950x since they're getting so cheap?

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-5800x3d/15.html Not the gains I would have hoped for. Backwards progress on multicore and single core performance. You can pay for this experiment or you can buy a 12600K or 12700K

That is a great looking budget build that likely still performs excellent for 1080p gaming even in 2022. Shame it's not supported by Nvidia anymore. I need to do something similar to this soon as I have so many "spare" parts just sitting in boxes. I am waiting for the GPU firesale that is likely going to happen on eBay or OfferUp soon enough. I will grab a good "slightly mined on" GPU to put together a cheap rig. Scary thing with those cables. Fire hazard for sure. I will have to take a look at mine, but I haven't noticed any damage when I was digging around in there last few days.

AMD has some serious ground to make up with Zen 4.

Run for the night. Unfortunately it's not cool outside so cracking the window isn't going to help. Decided to hold this one back for the leaderboard until I need to use it. 🙂

Thanks for confirming! Honestly the thing I'm happiest about with these new chips is the IMC being able to push my mem clocks up. I need a 2 dimm board.

At least I saw that both do have good IMCs. So the more I see the more I'm thinking they may have improved the IMCs. @electrosoft Do you remember what your power consumption was like for 5.3Ghz all cores in CB23? I'm looking at 252w for 5.3/4.0. Not great, not terrible. Working on stabilizing 6800Mhz CL32 now. If I can get this stable I shoot for 7000Mhz.

Similar to SP88 chip. X206D795. It crashed CB20 at 5.1 P cores, no Es, 1.143v. My SP88 does 1.092v and passes no issues. The silicon quality variance is wild on these things. Even my SP92 K can do 1.10v and pass same test. That should have never made it into the KS pile.

Wow my luck is just bad with CPUs lately. My second chip from MC is SP86. How the hell are these "binned". All they did was shove a ton of voltage down this chip and pray someone has a crazy loop to cool it. It will be back at MC in the morning when they open. Possibly both. If it can't run stock on a 360mm AIO without thermal throttling then it's not an acceptable chip.

Thanks! Tested my 12900K SP92 again, and even on this newest BIOS the IMC is total shit compared to my 12900KS. Can barely post 6667, instant BSOD upon windows load. My 12900KS didn't even BSOD with 7000Mhz, I just wasn't able to get it stable yet. I am keeping the KS I have, and will return the new/old depending on which one is better. I have a feeling the new KS chips have improved IMCs looking at what you got with your Hero board too. I'm going to bring it with me just in case they won't let me purchase a second one since it's "limit 1 per household".

Batch and Vietnam or China? Headed to MC to exchange

This guy does a pretty good job of explaining how to enable it. I've tested in both Superposition and Port Royal and both produced increased performance. Green Goblin holding out.

Ahh damn, you can use Nvidia Inspector to force rebar support in games/benchmarks where Nvidia has not officially enabled support simply by using the profiles.

Add about 10 points to that KS over a K. You lucky SOB! LOL. I hate you. That settles it, I am exchanging this chip in the morning. This is my shitty SP88 KS doing 5.1 with same voltage as you cherry SP98 chip. Ignore the temps, I am using a crap graphite pad for testing and it lets the chip warm up a bit.

That is just on a couple cores. I am using TVB +1 in the BIOS. Under load it was doing 5.3Ghz. The chip does seem decent and am I really happy with the IMC on this chip. Blows my mind how much better it is over my old K. Are you using Resizeable Bar/Forcing it via Inspector? You can pick up a couple hundred points right there. I just learned this trick recently. Benchmarkers hate him. I think I also got pretty lucky in the lottery on this GPU chip. It does 2220-2205mhz locked in the entire run on the freaking air cooler. Of course it's a redesigned cooler with a vapor chamber so that definitely helps.

Best run so far. Had to snag that crown back.