Mr. Fox

I automatically believe the opposite of whatever Azor says.

Just take your time with it. If you're not benching and what you have does what you need it to well enough, save your money and wait for the prices to fall. They probably will. Depending on how long it takes for idiots to max out their credit cards, it might happen sooner or may take a while. I mean who would have thought that I would own a 3060 Ti or that I would entertain the idea of buying an Arc A770? Even I would not have believed it until a year or so ago. When I bought the 3090 KPE and began to reflect on what benefit I got for spending my money (or what little benefit if you look at it that way) it caused me to reflect on things and adjust my perspective. I spent a lot of money and got something that wasn't a whole lot better than ordinary. Based on what I spent, it should have been a golden sample. While it was better than average, it wasn't nearly as special as the price tag would have suggested it should be and less than what I deserved to receive for paying the extra premium. Do I want a 4090? Hell yeah, of course I do. But, it's a really poor value and unless I got extremely lucky with a golden sample that allowed me to be successful at benching against "the chosen ones" that get cherry-picked silicon for free, chances are fairly good I am going to regret having burned a really huge wad of cash on a run of the mill ego-crazed gamerboy's cracker jack trash card. I'm not saying that my foolish side might not eventually rationalize the decision. That could happen. But, the final outcome (speaking of the regret over the money spent) will probably turn out the same. Sounds like your disappointment with things is similar to mine. Sorry to hear that, but it is what it is. I never expected it to be cheap, but when you have to pay far too much money to get something that may turn out to be an overpriced piece of garbage, then have the fun taken out of benching on top of that... what's the point? If it isn't fun any more, then I guess there is no point. Fun was the basis for it in the first place. Exactly. Very similar to my comments to Brother @Raiderman. Don't let the money burn a hole in your pocket. Just wait for the kill. You can shoot when you see the whites of their eyes.

LOL, did I call it or what? Very predictable. I wish I would have been wrong about this, but I always expect the worst when it comes to how companies treat consumers. That's just the sad world we live in now. If what you want is desirable, chances are great that you're going to get screwed and it should be almost taken for granted that you will get hosed on the price. They use "supply and demand" as the excuse to legitimize their thievery, but let's make no mistake about it... just good old fashioned greed and price-gouging with little or no connection to supply and demand. They'll charge as much as stupid people are willing to pay. Prices will go down only when overpriced inventory stops moving.

Out of all of the air-cooled 4090 cards I think it is the nicest looking as well. I'm not buying one because they're just too damned expensive to entertain the idea, but if I were going to I would probably go with that one. The money saved can be put toward a waterblock.

C'mon now... we know you value function over form. You should. I do, too. Form is nice. Function is essential. Balance is nice when you can achieve it. But, those fans are just ridiculous, LOL. I would even go as far to say so ridiculous that function is impaired. The unbearable noise is a functionality limitation. You have to run the fans slower to not have your ears bleed and that reduces their capacity.

If sales are slow that could also drive lower prices as we saw with AM5 CPUs. Oh, is that all? [sarcasm]

What they are doing certainly doesn't come anywhere near the order of magnitude of the WWII atrocities and can't be compared to that, but the approach with the censoring and agenda-driven information (disinformation) control is remarkably similar. This is unacceptable and totally contrary to normal American life, not to mention unconstitutional and illegal. They are basically blocking everything that is true, accurate, normal and mainstream and replacing it with extreme woke, hard left nonsense... wickedness on steroids. They shroud their agenda in a fake presentation of being anti-racism and anti-hate when it is exactly that they are guilty of. Totally ludicrous.

Wow... still down?!? Seems like something more than "service enhancements" because it is taking a crazy long time. Wonder what the deal is? Maybe trying to keep the lid on something they don't want exposed for discussion in their forum? Or, maybe a mishap that wiped everything out? Neither one would be good.

The problem is the censoring, and in particular, the censoring of everything that doesn't fit their extreme left woke socialist agenda. It forces people from the center to move hard left or right, moreso of the latter.

I still haven't forgiven them for back-stabbing 3090 owners with the 3090 Ti. I hope they never release a 4090 Ti and stop the financial shell game. It's not welcomed and merely shows what a sucky greed-driven outfit they are.

If they overclock well (TBD) it could dramatically change things. I have always cared a whole lot more about how well a CPU or GPU overclocks than I care about how it runs stock. If it runs great stock and sucks at overclocking, then I have no interest in owning it. It's boring and I don't do the "everyone gets a trophy for participation" thing. That is also frequently used as a lame excuse that [insert brand name] is giving their customers the best by leaving nothing on the table for overclockers which is baloney. If it were true, it would mean there would be many failures, malfunctions and RMAs as the poor silicon samples can't function properly at stock spec. The Linux support is compelling by itself if you are a Linux user. If they wanted to really open a can of whoop-ass on the Green Goblin they would include Windows 7 support. They would have an instant following and demonstrate they care more about the people that own their products than being an obedient muppet that licks the boots of the Redmond Retards.

I generally view the need to verify misbehavior by the internet Nazis like Twatter, Facepoot, Goober and YouPoop as an unnecessary denial of what is already obvious to those paying attention. Also very hard to verify what they do because it is always so deceptive, secretive and misrepresented. What is more revealing is how deep and wide the scope of their evil plan and devices were and are. I am super glad that Musk is releasing all of the dirty garbage from the former Twatter Gestapo. It certainly puts things in perspective.

More from the Twitter Files...

I ordered a kit of Team Group Delta 7200 A-die. It is being returned for a refund. It is unstable and fails memory tests with errors and BSOD on both of my Z690 systems running at rated settings and only worsens with tuning efforts. Oddly enough, my M-die can run all of the Delta 7200 timings at 7200 with no errors and higher read, write, copy speeds and lower latency. My manual overclock of the M-die at 6800 performs as well or better than their XMP profile. The only way I could get it stable was to reduce the speed to 6800 and then it was slower than my generic M-die. I have had several TG Delta M-die kits that were fantastic, but this Delta A-die kit is rubbish. Kind of disappointing that it is not as good as my generic green M-die.

Yeah, that is a big improvement. The thing about gaming is you don't need to buy the most powerful and expensive GPU to get the job done and enjoy a satisfying experience. If you were not looking at an on-screen overlay it would not be possible to tell one from the other. If you jack the settings up so high that it tanks your performance it does very little to improve the quality of the image on the screen. I find it difficult to tell any difference between high/very high/ultra other than a corresponding diminished framerate.

Yeah, totally nuts. That is even worse than the Delta fans from what I can tell. Higher pitched and more obnoxious. Do they move a ton of air, or just make lots of noise?

What is even more sad is that many, if not most, sheeple are accepting of this utter bullcrap. Laptops have been around for how many years, and never needed to have soldered filth because of being moved around. People that believe nonsense like this are as dumb as a box of rocks, and the people that tell them nonsense like this are evil and dishonest. They can't be honest about it because the accurate answer would just make everyone angry... even the stupid ones drinking the Kool-Aid that seem to enjoy being sodomized.

Really? What? That is so weird. It seems contrary to common sense, doesn't it? I wonder if this could be a symptom of a faulty manufacturing/soldering process like with Roman's defective Strix 4090? Higher temperatures may help mitigate the poor connection and colder temperatures exacerbate it. I think part of it is the desire to avoid risk and drama, so many pay extra (way too much extra even) to spare themselves of the nonsense that AMD has a reputation for. I know for me it has nothing to do with brand and everything to do with regrettable past ownership experience. I also question whether AMD is in their right mind for even offering it. Seems pretty stupid. They are picking up bad habits from the Green Goblin.

The way I view it, if they sell an overclocking-centric product to an overclocker and it doesn't overclock worth a damn, I am calling BS on their defective crap and would return it because it is falsely-advertised defective crap. I think I am done playing by their rules, or their lack thereof. No point in paying a premium for top quality when it turns out to be garbage that fails in the silicon lottery. They can give my money back and pawn it off on some other stupid sucker.

Interesting. Looks like the Strix 4090 may have a production flaw. The second video is the demonstration of the repair discussed in Roman's video. Got to love ASUS and their high pricing and low quality. Status quo for them.

Yikes, so only $100 less than XTX makes it a severely overpriced downgrade. That smells a lot like an AMD version of an overpriced 4070 that used to be called 4080 scam. I don't know why anyone would want it if it is only $100 less. Should be at least $300 less.

Can you return it as defective or get in-store credit for a different GPU? If the memory overclock is that limited on what one would think is their best model, it is defective. They should save the crummy memory chips for the less expensive cards and stop screwing the customers that spend the most. I absolutely hate it. I think it looks like pure crap. A solid backplate with only screw holes is the proper approach. I had not thought about it exposing the GPU to hazards. No only water... what about a screw or washer falling in there and causing a short? So, it is both ugly and stupid.

More glorious fallout from the woke Twatter echo chamber getting its pants pulled down, LOL.

It is diabolical, and they are a very evil company. They are in the same league as crApple and Satan, and worthy of damnation. I know it would make things difficult for many people, but I would really love to see crApple and Micro$lop both die and go out of business in 2023. I love Linux. It's limitations are difficult, and the newer your hardware is, the less likely things are going to work correctly. When everything works correctly it is stinking awesome. I would really love to see Linux commercialized for consumers with the sames level of driver development and software support everyone received from the Redmond Retards, minus all of the draconian control freak nonsense. For those interested in Team Red unboxing videos. I don't get why there is a 7900 XT. I am guessing the real story is they are poorly binned 7900 XTX for ~$100 less if you are willing to live with an inferior silicon sample. If I were going to buy one of these I would find the idea of saving $100 (a few pennies per day for a year) and getting an inferior GPU on purpose kind of absurd.