Mr. Fox

https://github.com/vagnum08/cpupower-gui

The idea of spending money to save money is almost always flawed. The popularity of selling "solar power" is a great example of that. Sure, it can lower your electric bill. But, it is so expensive that you will be very old or dead before the cost of acquistion is offset by the monthy savings. There is some sound logic supporting the concept of harnessing solar power, but saving money is a dangling carrot that is misleading. It's not an intelligent solution for people with limited financial resources. They can't afford it. I am sure the idea behind making it possible to turn it off is just one of NVIDIA's tricks to fluff up the performance numbers for marketing purposes. If you can increase performance by 5 or 10% by disabling ECC you can market the new product's superiority based on those numbers with ECC disabled.

I forgot to show... even this application works correctly on the Z690 Dark motherboard. Can adjust CPU frequency on the fly.

One thing that I love about EVGA's BIOS is the "Always Show Boot Option" feature. I wish that it was a requirement that all motherboard manufacturers enable this feature. I install my OSes independently so each has its own bootloader, then use EasyBCD to modify each OS bootloader to give me the option to change my mind after hitting "enter" on the EVGA Boot Option screen. This feature of the EVGA BIOS is always enabled on my systems. It waits for me to tell it where I want to go. No need to spam any buttons for BIOS or boot selection. It just sits there and does nothing until I tell it where to go. If I connect a USB drive, it shows that in the boot menu as well. I absolutely LOVE this.

As expected, Linux Mint was worthless in terms of correcting the issue. I honestly do not believe it will be corrected unless ASUS does something right on the firmware side. I do not like NVIDIA as a company. They deserve to be hated, but I love their products and they are what I want to own. It's almost like the opposite with AMD. I don't like AMD products and avoid owning them, but I want to like AMD as a company. I do not believe they are honest or good, but they're the lesser of two evils on the GPU side of the business. Intel is kind of in the middle. I don't hate them, I like their products, I want their products, and I do not find them as easy to dislike as the other two. AMD's presence in their digital ménage à trois keeps everyone on their toes and I am thankful for it. Edit: here is an example of a newer CPU, same chipset, functioning correctly. I think pointing the finger at ASUS is appropriate. @Etern4l

Already returned it. Yes, I am on the latest firmware from EVGA. I will just wait until I can get generic naked modules for less than branded retail. I like that a whole lot better now that I have that on both systems. No need for XMP (I can manually tune better) and worthless heatsinks that are difficult to remove. Both pairs of the generic UDIMMs I am using work better than the retail M-die kits I have owned that cost double or more. I might even just skip it if I can keep my silly urges in check. Since I am not doing any serious benching any more, there is no good rationale or genuine need for anything faster than what I already have. At one point I thought these sticks had bricked my system. When I was trying to tune it tighter and with higher clocks it would not POST any more and was giving a one beep error code ever 2 seconds and clearing the CMOS didn't fix it. Swapping back my old sticks didn't change anything. Still the one beep thing. After I used the reset button next to the power button a second time it finally came back to life and booted normally. The clear CMOS button on the rear I/O would not correct it.

Thank you. The 2080 Ti FTW3 is not a reference PCB and takes a special block. It looks like that one probably will not fit it. I am selling it only because I need the money more than I need a spare GPU. I really appreciate you thinking of me though. It actually sold yesterday on eBay and I had to relist it this morning. The fellow that bought it unexpectedly had his credit card limit lowered to his current balance by the bank and he didn't have a way to complete the purchase. RMA is already approved. Just need to drop it at UPS. I might do that. I would prefer that so I don't have to dink around with chintzy heat sinks and RGB rubbish. But, I haven't found any for sale other than what Splave is selling on HWBOT forums for $200 more than I am willing to spend. When I can find a pair of 16GB generic A-die sticks for $300 or less, I probably will. I am glad I saved the Thaiphoon Burner information so that if I do find some generic sticks I can pass on them if they are the same 4800 garbage A-die part number as what I am returning.

That is the guy that fixed my 2080 Ti FTW3 that had a bad memory chip. He is up in the Portland, Oregon area. Brilliant fellow. Watch some of his other YouTube videos. Very entertaining and amazing to watch him in action.

This won't boot past 7600 and it is not stable at 7400 unless I use sloppy timings that make it slower than my generic M-die sticks. It is probably a really lousy A-die sample. I only bought it because it was $300~ and I can now see why it was cheap. I am not willing to pay more than what I paid for this, so I will probably just keep using my $80 green sticks that are blazing fast at 6800 with crazy tight timings. Since I am not seriously pursuing benching any more, it was probably silly of me to even buy this to begin with. I did verify it was definitely Hynix A-die though. The IC part number shows it. But, it is weird that it shows 4800 as the speed grade. That is probably an indication it is a poor grade of A-die. I did not even know there was an inferior 4800 JEDEC A-die. Seems like I am a magnet for inferior silicon. I am getting tired of playing the lottery.

I think I am probably going to return it for a refund. I am not impressed with it. It's not as stable as my M-die and the minor improvement in performance isn't worth the $300 I paid for it.

Yes, I got it from NewEgg on Black Friday sale for $318. I like the waterblock. Thank you. I think it looks nice, too. It works well. It is a lot less restrictive than the Optimus block. My flow rate increase by around 60 l/h just from installing it.

Benchmark of the unmodified Corsair XMP profile. Horrible thermals, as expected for all DDR5 with stock heatsinks heating blankets. These will be going on water.

Here is the Indigo info... the other thing to keep in mind is my Windows installations are modded and tweaked. I don't allow Micro$lop's filth to run amok. I physically remove Cortana, Defender, Edge, removed some services and manually stop many others. Massive difference and makes a direct comparison between Linux and Windows more difficult. The comparison is Linux against Mr. Fox's Windows, not what most people use. You can see from these results that do have other Linux distros, openSUSE performance is poor compared with Ubuntu-based distros.

@Etern4l here is the Blender benchmark. Indigo is still downloading. Will update the post after I run that.

Another incredible repair. Funny comment about the Arizona heat (which I can obviously relate to).

There are a couple of replies in this thread validating my thoughts about it being ASUS firmware-related goofiness. (They didn't know my thoughts and assumptions, but their replies validate what I have been posting in this thread.) https://forums.extremehw.net/topic/2433-post-your-desktop/?do=findComment&comment=31395 I have always wanted to try Clear. So, yeah, I am open to that because I think it is worth investigating. Running everything at full speed is definitely my modus operandi. I like Plasma and Mint DEs because they closely resemble the classic Micro$oft Windows GUI. (I prefer Mint over Plasma.) I do not like the aesthetic of most of the other alternative DEs. The default Ubuntu DEs with tiles, crApple-ish docks and sidebars are repulsive to me. I also do not like the Windows 95-ish look of default Gnome shells. Give me a panel and menu that look and feel a lot a dark-themed Windows 7 shell and I'm happy. I will do the blender and indigo benchmarks after work. I have found good success using Lutris to run Cinebench (R11.5, R15, R20 and R23) very effective. Cinebench scores are usually within 1-2% of Windows, but always slightly less. I am assuming that is because of the WINE layer adding overhead. But, it would still be useful for comparing performance between Linux distros.

Yes. In fact, I had EVGA replace my 850G2 under warranty recently due to some instability that accompanied random reboots with the GPU under load (like a demanding game or benchmark). Replacing it fixed the problem. The fan had also stopped working, but that was a secondary issue. The load instability/reboot happened even when the PSU was cold.

My Corsair 7200 A-die should be here tomorrow, but it is not for this system. Yes, it does still work so that's very handy. The modern versions of XTU suck real bad and TurboV Core, EVGA ELEET and MSI Dragon Power are what XTU should be... lightweight, without a lot of garbage services slowing things down and stealing CPU clock cycles.

Yes, htop (I think, I will have to check) shows correct info. Here's another weird thing. If I disable c-states in the BIOS, neofetch shows wrong info. CPU-X shows clocks correctly still (but not core count or HT) under load. But, neofetch does show the clocks correctly if I run the command while the CPU is under load. The part that is extra-stupid about this is the fact that disabling c-states usually causes all cores and cache to run full speed with no power management involved. The exact opposite should be true. Thus, I do believe the firmware (or ACPI) is not being managed correctly by Linux. The firmware should override anything in the OS. It does in Windows but not in Linux (on this particular system). I think the fact that my laptop and the Z690 Dark do not have these problems points directly to the ASUS BIOS and at this point I may reclaim the drive space because I do not want to use Linux when it is not functioning correctly. It just makes me angry and I can't enjoy using it knowing it is malfunctioning. Side observation, not specific to this system... It seems that Linux has a nasty tendency to force the CPU to run in a reduced power state. That is one thing that I really hate about Linux even when it is working correctly. It can set my governor to Performance mode and it still tries to save power and eventually changes to Power Saver mode without my permission. Because of this I have made it a ritual to manually set the governor to Performance every time I start a Linux session. The only distro I haven't tested yet that *might* behave correctly is Linux Mint "cutting edge" release. I may give it a go just to see if it still has the same behavior. If it behaves the same, then I am going to reclaim the drive space for something else and not run Linux on this system. I am not optimistic and may change my mind about bothering with it because I do believe it is more likely an ASUS firmware issue versus a Linux issue.

I had to wait until I got off work to reboot into Linux. Looks like a current kernel. neofetch shows correct clock speed, but core count does not reflect E-core presence. Hardinfo (System Profiler and Benchmark) does not show correct core clocks. They stay at 3400 at idle or under load. CPU-X gets the clocks (and voltage) right when the CPU is under load, but doesn't correctly identify core count or hyperthreading. Latest and greatest appimage version from Github has the same issue as the version on the distro repo. Newer isn't better.

More often than not, I think polls relating to business or politics reflect the outcome the people conducting the poll want the poll to show as a means of furthering whatever agenda they are pushing. I think they should be taken with a grain of salt most of the time. Yep, bigger than heck, Brother @Papusan... I flashed back to v2103 and everything works right. Not sure what changed on the memory part of v2203, but it was not very good for me. I could not boot even at 6000 for some strange reason. Memory would not train. But, newer is always better. Except for when it ain't, LOL.

I am unable to boot (keep getting the F1 error at POST) with my previous OC settings with the beta BIOS. Will test a little more, but I may have to go back to the previous v2103 BIOS if that issue persists. I am booting now with BIOS default. I think the new firmware does not like my memory modules for some reason. This version of TurboV Core works though, so that is nice. Hopefully, it will work the same even if I have to flash back to v2103.

Thank you. I flashed the BIOS and it does not have MC SP rating. Not sure if it is because it is 12900KS or they did not include this on the Strix mobo. But, the nice thing is that MemTweakIt now work on my Z690 Dark. The last version did not. I will test if TurboV Core works on the Strix now. The most recent prior version did not.

Thanks. I will look for that on my Strix BIOS. I am sure Intel, AMD and NVIDIA do not support the idea of purchasers of their products having the ability to identify when they have been sold an inferior product. I suspect ASUS and MSI did not gain any favor for their firmware showing this. The nice thing about it is they probably don't have any say-so in the matter.

In my hours of searching for a solution I saw a number of people complain about issues similar to this after a BIOS update, and most of them were ASUS owners. Everything was peachy, they updated their BIOS, and things in Linux didn't function correctly. Some were older posts and some were recent, but I think it is fairly common. I saw similar issues with the Z590 Dark ACPI implementation--one of the reasons I disliked it--causing issues with Windows 7 (some severe, like having to disable NVMe in the BIOS to avoid a BSOD) and Linux instability. Cannonkong (win-raid celebrity) has commented often about issues with various Z390, 490, 590 and 690 motherboard having Windows 7 and Linux issues due to defective ACPI implementation.