Mr. Fox

4 hours ago, Ashtrix said:

 

It is a new Windows 10 standard and it makes the drivers integrated further deep into OS also it makes the OEMs use Store based UWP apps as in it's an option to them (add the bonus telemetry that comes along with the UWP trash) which is why so much of the modern Software packages have a ton of bloat and are more utilizing UWP apps (MSI, ASUS, AW for eg). NVCP with the DCH drivers previously did not ship with NVCP we needed to add it through Store or NVCleanInstall injection, they provide the app now though, still NVCleanInstall is mandatory as the driver has a ton of stupid bloat.

 

Below is their own documentation mentioning that UWP part more.

 

• Declarative (D): Install the driver by using only declarative INF directives. Don't include co-installers or RegisterDll functions.

• Componentized (C): Edition-specific, OEM-specific, and optional customizations to the driver are separate from the base driver package. As a result, the base driver, which provides only core device functionality, can be targeted, flighted, and serviced independently from the customizations.

• Hardware Support App (H): Any user interface (UI) component associated with a Windows Driver must be packaged as a Hardware Support App (HSA) or preinstalled on the OEM device. An HSA is an optional device-specific app that's paired with a driver. The application can be a Universal Windows Platform (UWP) or Desktop Bridge app. You must distribute and update an HSA through the Microsoft Store.

And Intel Graphics app is a UWP one not Win32, so lack of proper filesystem for UWP applications  and not easy to hook and mod etc.

 

Excellent technical breakdown on this filth. Thank you.

For those with a short attention span, we can cut to the chase. DCH drivers can be casually described as  Deliberately Crapified Hype produced by degenerate imbeciles for their zombie sheeple herd... which is assumed to always be the case for the projectile-vomited malware  distributed by Micro$lop through the digital cess pool they have dubbed the "Microsoft Store." We are expected to believe they are better just because they say so.

Took about 2 weeks for this to get here. CPU load temps are the same as the OptimusPC Foundation, but it is far less restrictive. My loop flow rate increased by about 40 l/h.

3 hours ago, tps3443 said:

You are keeping the 3060Ti over that 2080Ti? I guess they do look to be comparable. This probably makes the most sense for your use on this rig anyways. I have had so much fun with 2080Ti’s especially once you flash KFA2 bios and water cool it.
 

I was managing around 7,800 with my 2080Ti FE in Time spy Extreme. I was blowing even a 3070Ti out of the water by about 20%. But this was before Ampere matured to what it is now. Turing was in its moment of peak prime. 
 

You’ve had that 2080Ti for a while too so that’s understandable. Also, I think Nvidia made some nice improvements with RTX3000 series driver advancements lately, like faster DLSS, and also faster ray tracing performance than RTX2000 series. So I imagine the 3060Ti has probably really come along ways since it’s launch. 
 

Hard to believe it has already been over (4) years since the first Ray traced Nvidia GPU’s have launched!

 

Yeah, it was a hard decision. The 2080 Ti FTW3 is absolutely a better GPU in every way. Had eBay not shafted me I would have probably just kept both of them. I decided based on economics and tried to stick to common sense and logic rather than getting hung up too much on sheer performance metrics..

The 3060 Ti FTW3 is brand new and has a new block. The 2080 Ti FTW3 is pretty old now and needs a new block. Spending another $150-$200 on a new block for the obsolete GPU make little sense. It is unlikely I will earn any points benching the superior 2080 Ti FTW3. I've milked it for all it's worth pretty much. I can shunt mod the 3060 Ti FTW3, set some 3060 Ti records and gain some additional hardware points if I decide to. 

If high-framerate gaming was super important to me I would keep the 2080 Ti FTW3 instead. 

5 minutes ago, Reciever said:

I was wondering why my wallet was on fire this morning.

Do you want me to put it on hold for you? Sorry you missed out on the last deal.

13 minutes ago, johnksss said:

True, but there may be some basis to the argument but going over board about it is what some do.😂

Yes, there is often a legitimate basis to it, but it's the reaction that can be comical and very telling about certain individuals. Sometimes I wonder how they have managed to survive so long without a heart attack. 

34 minutes ago, johnksss said:

Best watchout posting aida64 over on OCN. They have a few haters over there. LOL

Sometimes haters like that are an incentive to post. It can be amusing to poke the (gummy) bear just so see what kind of shrill crybaby noise it is going to make.

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

Looks like my Microcenter still has plenty of cards.

https://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.aspx?N=4294966937&NTK=all&sortby=pricehigh

Looks like everything is still a poor value and priced very stupid until you get into RX 550 and GTX 1650  ~$200 price range. It is expected that something current is going to be overpriced, but my goodness... some of the old garbage that nobody wanted when it was new tech is still priced for idiots. The fact that it is still rotting on a store shelf because nobody wanted it during the pandemic when people were happy to have something better than integrated graphics say a lot. 

Thanks eBay... appreciate getting screwed so much.

Price: SOLD

Condition: Very Good

Warranty: Expired

Reason for sale: See Comments

Payment: PayPal, Zelle

Item location: San Tan Valley, AZ

Shipping: Lower 48 US - Negotiable (will discuss with buyer via PM, phone or text)

International shipping: Actual cost plus any taxes, duties, VAT, etc. I am unable to estimate these costs.

Handling time: Next Business Day

Feedback: eBay Profile; OC.net MarketPlace

Specifications:

• EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3
• Samsung GDDR6 (excellent overclocking)
• Hybrid cooler (much better than stock air cooling)
• Original Box (no accessories - box is a bit rough)
• Dual  vBIOS (mechanical switch - stock feature)
• Shunt Mod (totally eliminates power limit concerns)
• 2000W Firmware Power Limit (vBIOS #1)
• 373W Stock FTW3 Power Limit (vBIOS #2)

This GPU has spent most of its life running stock clocks with a full coverage block on a custom loop.  It was benched overclocked on chilled water and set a LOT of records on HWBOT in the class I compete in. Consistently bested K|INGP|N and Galax HOF 2080 Ti competitors that were using chilled water. I am not a avid gamer, so it hasn't done a lot of that. I purchased it from Brother@Rage Setabout 3 years ago. It runs freakishly cool on the stock hybrid cooler using the stock vBIOS. Since I purchased the 3090 K|INGP|N about two years ago, it has done almost nothing but drive 3 displays on my work PC and mundane tasks like render video conferences and display PowerBI and Excel worksheets. Overall, it has had a pretty easy life except for the chilled benching sessions before I bought the 3090 K|NGP|N.

I had a bit of a mishap about a six or eight weeks ago (accidentally knocked my tower over) and after a reboot it had artifacts. I ran a MATS test and found one of the memory ICs was affected. I purchased a 3060 as a temporary substitute for work and I sent the GPU to Tony at Northwest Repair to fix. He replaced the affected memory chip, fully tested every other aspect of the card and now it is as good as new.

I love this GPU and I was undecided whether to keep it. I hate the idea of getting rid of it. But, eBay and USPS decided for me this afternoon.  I sold a TeamGroup DDR5-6200 memory kit on eBay. It was never delivered. The buyer was issued a refund by eBay and they have withdrawn what I was paid from my checking account. My budget doesn't have a $300 cushion, so here we go. Hopefully, I can get part of my money back from USPS by filing a claim, but I will still be roughly $75 short (not getting back eBay fees and postage).

I pulled my 3090 out and fully tested it this evening. Tony already stressed it with Furmark, Heaven and Valley. Even stock with the shunt mod this thing is a holy terror. Passes all tests with flying colors. Holds about 2050 core boost (stock) in games and benchmarks and maxes out about 58-60°C on core with the hybrid cooling. Now it's time for it to be a blessing to somebody else and help me recover the money I lost on the RAM debacle with eBay/USPS.

I know some people care a lot about boxes. Full disclosure: the box is rough because it got smashed by one of my kids a couple of years ago when we moved to a new home.

Here is the obligatory proof of ownership photo...

Test results (this evening)... 

I still have the EKWB Vector block and back plate. I can send it if the buyer wants it. It works, doesn't leak, but the plexi is starting to have spider web fissures around the allen screws that attach the plexi to the copper cold plate. Works fine and it as clean as a whistle inside, but it doesn't look perfect for a vertical GPU mount. In a horizontal installation they would never been seen and they are hard to see with water flowing through the block. EKWB no longer sells the plexi top as a replacement part. I was going to buy a Bykski block for it and never did because it wasn't leaking and nobody but me knew they were there.

Well, no good deed goes unpunished. Screwed again by the devil-worshippers running eBay. Seller Protection my a$$.

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

 

Is this overclocked vs overclocked?  the stock 2080Ti VS overclocked 2080Ti is really day and night. 

Nope, both running with firmware defaults. Neither one overclocked. The 2080 Ti FTW3 is the beast I bought from Brother @Rage Set about three years ago that I shunt-modded and flashed a 2000W vBIOS, but in that comparison running the stock EVGA vBIOS with no offsets. The 3060 Ti FTW3 is as it came from EVGA except for the GPU block. It had a memory chip fail, so I sent it off to be fixed. The 3060 Ti was a surrogate GPU. Now I have to decide which one to keep. I'm almost thinking it's smarter to keep the newer GPU. It's good enough and might go an extra year or two on driver support before the Green Goblin's genocide squad steps in to ruin everything.

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

Well I asked the 20 people standing in line the other day and they said no it would not stop them buying the card.

 

And so far no one is blaming the customer yet, but they are replacing most if not all the cards that have burn marks.. So an inconvenience, Yes but still standing by the user error customer.

 

Hell, I have to make sure I don't become that guy my damn self! 😂

 

And look at the down votes. Facepalm.

 

And then people wonder why they lock everything down tight.

Some people can ruin anything just by staring at it for a minute or two. If they touch it, guaranteed... it is going to be effed up... real bad.

2 hours ago, jaybee83 said:

congratz on the super quick sale bro Fox!

 

sick deal doesnt even come close to describing this. damn, how are mere mortals like us supposed to compete with such complete packages at such pricing? LOL

ill be posting my stuff here soon, wanted to do it already but real life keeps getting in the way (moving to new appartment, getting stuff ready for the baby, etc.)

Thank you. I am a believer in the concepts of sowing and reaping, paying forward and getting back what you give. The more I can be a blessing to others, the more I am going to be blessed in the long run. I can still remember how hard it was being a young man and trying to scratch out a living to support a family. Having nice things usually wasn't within my reach. I'm far from wealthy and concerned about what my retirement is going to look like with socialist filth literally destroying our economy and ransacking the modest nest egg I've worked and sacrificed so hard my whole life to build, but if I can help people have something nice that they couldn't otherwise afford, maybe someone will return the favor for me some day when I need it most. You've got your priorities straight, bro. That real life thing is what matters most.

On a happier note... no melted cables (yet)... 2080 Ti FTW3 rises from the ashes to execute its wrath on the unworthy...

The scrappy 3060 Ti FTW3 isn't lagging its older brother as much as I expected though...

...and, they aren't very far apart in terms of specs either.

1 hour ago, johnksss said:

Unfortunately he has feedback from 1 person with a score of 3 in the last 6 months of transactions.

So not really sure what hookup you may be referring too as with high ticket items and that many allegedly sold, you would want every 4090 customer to report in. And not one guy with a score of 3. Just my opinion...

 

Side note: Look at all those PS% people reporting in and 1 guy with a 4090....Seems pretty fishy to me.

Sadly, many people never give feedback. Maybe 1 out of 10 things I sell on fleaBay gets any feedback. I have had people message me to say they are very happy with the item purchased, but even still they give no feedback. I always do as a matter of courtesy, especially when I am happy with the item.

I packaged it with an added layer of corrugated cardboard lining the walls, floor, and a layer between components internally. I hope the box holds up to the trip its new home better than the box transporting the 2080 Ti FTW that I sent to Northwest Repair to fix. The GPU made it back undamaged, thankfully, but the box looks like it was hit by a truck, LOL.

On 11/15/2022 at 9:45 AM, 1610ftw said:

Thank YOU, Brother Fox, we will have a lot of fun with all of that 🙂

Shipped! I'm super happy for you, bro. Please let me know when the package arrives at its destination.

On another note... not sure how I missed this a year ago, LOL.

7 hours ago, 1610ftw said:

Thank YOU, Brother Fox, we will have a lot of fun with all of that 🙂

You're welcome, and thank you, too. You will find the shipping options in your PM. It is all boxed and ready to ship as soon as you let me know which option is best for you.

Package includes:

• Strix Z690-A D4 mobo with original box and accessories
• 12900K with original retail box and clamshell
• Thermalright CPU Frame and Torx key
• 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V with original and aftermarket heatsinks
• EKWB Velocity2 CPU block with original retail packaging
• Alphacool 360 Crossflow radiator
• XSPC 240 thin radiator
• Generic 240 thick radiators (2)
• XSPC 170 X4 pump/res
• Generic axial pump and reservoir (new - never used)
• 256GB Samsung NVMe (OEM) in M.2_1 slot
• Misc barb fittings and clamps

Brother @electrosoftI have been meaning to ask... how do you like the Arc A770? I am very interested to hear what your experience has been and see some benchmarks.

5 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

So it has begun. Nvidia's 4080 has a TGP of 320 but Nvidia has limited it. Apparently, "recently" Nvidia changed how their cards boost. Before, Nvidia's cards would try to adhere to their TDP while under load and even try to go above it, with performance to go with it. Now the TGP is the LIMIT, so with the 4080, it will try to avoid going near the 320W TGP cap. 

 

I told you guys that Nvidia was going to nerf the power draw of the cards. They haven't figured a way to do it with the 4090 (at least the batches they have already sold) but watch the next batches that make it to the public have different performance deltas compared to the ones people have. They may sneak a vBIOS update in their drivers, you never know. 

I nicknamed them the "Green Goblin" for very good reason. Making the best video cards doesn't mean that they are good people or good products. (Being the best only means you are the lesser among evils, not that you are good, honest or reliable.) Excepting for maybe EVGA (and even they are a little bit suspect sometimes) none of the technology leaders are trustworthy entities that care about the people that purchase their products. Anyone that thinks Intel, AMD, NVIDIA or any of the manufacturers that sell their licensed technologies are good or honest companies are living in a dream world.

Sold to Brother @1610ftw. 🙂 Working out the shipping details and the kit will be on its way.

18 minutes ago, 1610ftw said:

You got pm 🙂

Got it! 🙂 Thanks, Brother.

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Edit. Btw... Asus is equal retarded as well.  Asus should be aware of this stupidity.  Yet, Microsoft want to give you unwanted updates with blessings from Asus software/firmware department. This old buggy bios version have been on Windows servers a long time. Asus could have asked Microsoft to remove it but they don't bother. Asus = Dell nowadays. 

 

If you have a newer firmware, Microsoft prefer that you update with blessings from Asus. Wahts wrong with todays tech? 

Yup... Satanic and nefarious at its core. Guess who will pay for the messed up motherboard when the BIOS update from the Redmond Retards goes wrong?

ASUS makes products for sheeple. Sheeple trust dishonest goons like ASUS and Micro$lop to do the right thing for them, but they do not. ASUS do not make enthusiast products. They sell products to people that view themselves as enthusiasts. We are a merely a duped commodity. Look no further than the Armory Crate abortion and you can see what kind of imbecile clown possee is running the show at ASUS.

Aqua sells digital garbage to the same group of misguided children. Those silly kids believe they need the bloatware. They are willing to waste money on trash software they don't need because they believe they do.

At least the garbage bloatware from Corsair, NZXT, ASUS and other vendors is provided for free (if you do not count data harvesting as a price). Aqua is "special" so they can charge their silly end users for the privilege of renting software they do not need.

Price: $650.00 (package deal for CPU, mobo and RAM, see optional add-ons) SOLD

Condition: Excellent

Warranty: None from Seller

Reason for sale: Upgraded Platform

Payment: PayPal, Zelle

Item location: San Tan Valley, AZ

Shipping: Lower 48 US - Negotiable - varies with desired optional items (will discuss with buyer via PM, phone or text)

International shipping: Actual cost plus any taxes, duties, VAT, etc. I am unable to estimate these costs.

Handling time: Next Business Day

Feedback: eBay Profile; OC.net MarketPlace

Combo Package Specifications:

• ASUS ROG Strix Z690-A WiFi Gaming D4 (original box with accessories included)
• Intel Core i9-12900K (original retail packaging included) - nice bin quality, delidded and lapped
• Thermalright CPU Frame (replaces ILM to prevent CPU bending - original ILM also included)
• G. Skill Ripjaws V 16GB Kit DDR4-4000 C15 with aftermarket heat sinks for improved cooling (stable @ 4400 - see screenshots)
  (Note: original heat sinks and retail packaging included. Stock RAM heat sinks are aesthetic only and worse than no heat sink.)

Optional Freebie:

• EKWB Velocity2 CPU Block (barely used - if buyer is planning a custom loop will be included because I want to reward that behavior)
  Excellent performance, same as OptimusPC CPU block, but focus on aesthetic. Rear mounting was inconvenient for tinkerer like me.
  Designed for LGA 1700 specifically. Please be honest. If you are going to air cool or use an AIO I can sell this to someone else.

Optional Not Free:

• Alphacool 360mm "Fat" Crossflow Radiator - $70
• XSPC 240mm "Thin" Radiator - $35
• Generic 240mm "Fat" Radiators - $25 each (2 available)
  (The generic 240mm radiators are a round tube design and work as well as most 360mm radiators I have owned.)
• XSPC X4 170MM Photon Pump/Res Combo - $0 will include with crossflow or both generic 240mm rads
  (The X4 has not been used for 2+ years. I am not sure if that affects the pump or not, but Performance-PCS sells X4 pumps for $30. XSPC reservoirs are thick glass and much better than the plexi garbage many tube reservoirs are made of.)

Radiators will be washed, flushed and dried prior to shipment. They have been used with automotive antifreeze, so they have no corrosion.

If you want all of it, $700 + negotiated shipping cost to a US address will buy it all.

Here is the obligatory time stamped ownership photo

I have two of these...

Love the opening comments. They apply to many aspects of the OS.