8 minutes ago, Etern4l said:

 

Micron VRAM. Nuff said. Sorry to hear, must be annoying, but good thing you ordered from Amazon and it happened within the return period. 

That is exactly why I bought it from Amazon. It was a rare opportunity for the price on a "sold and shipped" option. All of the other sources are about $300 more. I never would have purchased it anywhere except Amazon or Best Buy (since I have no Microcenter) because of their return policy.

1 minute ago, Custom90gt said:

 

It's been a rough time for you and hardware recently.

It has. I'm not sure I am going to replace it. Had Amazon had another in stock and could have exchanged it, I would have. There was a part of me that regretted spending $1799 on it, so we'll see once the refund shows up. Definitely not going to do anything until the money is back in my account.

Well, my Suprim died today. While working on my other computer I looked over and saw the screen was black, like it had gone to sleep. I always disable that. Jiggled the mouse and tapped a few keys and nothing. Powered off and on and motherboard beeps and shows D6. Pulled it out and tried it on the other computer and same thing. Started a refund with Amazon. No exchange available, so I put the 3060 Ti in my benching rig while I ponder whether or not to bother finding another 4090.

I am so glad that I hadn't already sold the spare GPU. I'd be up the creek with no paddle if I had.

It is easy to forget, and some people have never experienced, what a difference thread, core and channel count can make. HEDT overclockers understand based on experience that "clock is king" only applies in an apples-to-apples comparison. A 32C/64T CPU with octa-channel memory can do a whole heck of a lot more more during the same span of time than a CPU with half as many cores and threads and half as many memory channels. You'd be hard-pressed to be able to push the consumer CPU hard enough to close the gap. The exception can be when the consumer CPU is newer tech with a significantly higher IPC performance. You can fairly easily do this when the HEDT CPU is an antique. But, that (again) would not be an apple-to-apple comparison.

The one stand-out about the antique HEDT CPU is how long it can remain king of the hill. It can usually outperform a consumer platform anywhere from 3 to 5 years, depending on how fast things are advancing on the consumer side.

4K and 8K place less emphasis on the CPU and RAM performance (though they still play a role to some degree) and force the GPU into performing most of the work.

Superposition 8K Optimized

Mr. Fox - Score: 14044 - 8K Optimized - 13900K - RTX 4090 - ECC Enabled

UNIGINE Superposition benchmark score

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Mr. Fox - Score: 15224 - 8K Optimized - 13900K - RTX 4090 - ECC Disabled

UNIGINE Superposition benchmark score

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Superposition 4K Optimized

Mr. Fox - Score: 37616 - 4K Optimized - 13900K - RTX 4090 - ECC Enabled

UNIGINE Superposition benchmark score

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UNIGINE Superpsition detailed score page

Mr. Fox - Score: 39406 - 4K Optimized - 13900K - RTX 4090 - ECC Disabled

UNIGINE Superposition benchmark score

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1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Regarding the apps. I don't think Galax apps will works properly on other cards. Todays' modern tech as you know. Once nvidia get rid of Galax in the same way as they did with EVGA.... All we have left is Gamer toy cards with even more fancy back-plates and more ARGB bling bling lights over the whole card.

If you can get the XOC vBIOS and app from Galax let's try it with my Suprim and see what happens. You never know. There were things that were not supposed to work like the Kingpin vBIOS and Classified tool did work with my shunt modded 2080 Ti FTW3. The KPE vBIOS worked great and even the Classified tool increased the voltage. The sliders did not work on the Classified tool, but simply launching it caused the voltage max to increase. I used the voltage curve tool with MSI Afterburner to trick it into going higher. I will take the extra GPU core voltage any way it can get it.  I think you have to contact Galax to get it with proof of ownership of the HOF card, just as the only way you could get the XOC vBIOS and Classified tool for EVGA was to email Vince and provide your EVGA invoice and serial number. I am using the 666W HOF vBIOS right now. I think they may have a 1000W HOF XOC vBIOS for the 4090. The 2000W HOF XOC vBIOS also worked fine on my 2080 Ti FTW3.

I think you made the right decision. I am glad that the Strix GPU was never available and you ended up with the HOF. I believe you are going to be better off  in every way with the HOF. I have heard Galax warranty service sucks, but we already know that is true of ASUS. I doubt Galax is worse than ASUS. QC from ASUS is also terrible. Galax did not get the reputation they have by selling sloppy broken garbage like ASUS does.

9 hours ago, Papusan said:

I really like this fan feature. All brands models should have this instead for all the bling bling. From 4:55

 

Wow, those fans are crazy. 😄

I wonder where that XOC app that looks a bit like Classified can be downloaded? I would love to try that on my GPU to see if it functions. Classified does not. I tried Google searching and nothing, and I do not find it on their web site.

2 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

i guesstimated 70-75, thats badass, i assume around 50 at idle?

No, that screenshot was at idle.

5 minutes ago, MyPC8MyBrain said:

@Mr. Fox
curious to learn how many background process are running for you while you bench?

Around 60-65.

2 hours ago, johnksss said:

You're physics score is excellent.

MrFox`s 3DMark - Fire Strike score: 70684 marks with a GeForce RTX 4090

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22 minutes ago, Papusan said:

This one also taste sweet... That WHEA 17 issue I was dealing with that I thought wasn't related to this is looking like it was caused by a faulty 12VHPWR cable from CableMod. I've switched back to the Nvidia adapter and my issues have gone away (for now). Someone else with the same exact error found this to be the cause of their display losing signal and crashing and are in the process of an RMA from CableMod.

 

So don't throw away the hated Nvidia cable salad😀

That is the one you were using on the GPU you returned?

I have the basic plastic $20 CableMod cable and it is working OK. None of the nicer sleeved "Pro" cables were available. Which type do you have? I have a sleeved Pro version on order.

20 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Does this looks better? Only for the chosen one. And all the talk about fair competition. Isn't it sweet?

It is not competition. It is staged/rigged and the selected players are predestined for having the illusion of greatness bestowed upon them. The only way that they can make sure things go according to plan is by keeping secrets and denying access to those not selected. There is no intent that anything be fair, only that things happen exactly as planned.

10 minutes ago, Papusan said:

This doesn't look good. 

 

PSA: Corrosion Happening on ASUS ROG Z690 Formula VRM Block, Company Remains Silent

I've been using the ASUS ROG Z690 Formula motherboard in all my recent CPU water block reviews, and also detailed it here for a specific EK VRM bridge block article. While the board has reached end-of-life status at ASUS internally, the company's customers are only just starting to face problems. The board's unique selling point is that it comes with an optional CrossChill EK III hybrid VRM thermal solution, which is effectively a waterblock for your VRMs to keep them cool at all times. Based on ASUS's official advertisement of "nickel-plated" and EK's involvement, everybody assumed that the material used is nickel-plated copper, but it turns out it's something different, most probably nickel-plated aluminium.

This is not the first time that ASUS has failed the material mix in their watercooling products. The first generation ROG Formula motherboard VRM blocks used plated-aluminium that introduced corrosion when added to a watercooling loop that has copper/brass/steel components elsewhere. Mixing metals in a watercooling loop is a bad idea and will result in galvanic corrosion from the different electrochemical potential of the metals. This can result in the block etching off and flakes/chunks getting in the loop to create an increasingly worse reaction with the coolant used. This can lead to blocked channels and even pump failure due to the corroded materials jamming the impeller.

    

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Yikes! That looks really bad.

It looks like the Trio and Suprim Corsair XG7 blocks are now available for order. I believe I will be getting one from Corsair, but do not have confirmation yet. Now I wish I had not ordered the Barrow block, LOL.

https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Custom-Cooling/Blocks/GPU-Blocks/Hydro-X-Series-XG7-RGB-40-SERIES-GPU-Water-Block/p/CX-9020021-WW

I will use this as a baseline to compare thermals with the stock AIO versus full GPU block. 20 loops of Port Royal got it pretty toasty. 75°C ambient temperature, all stock except max fans set manually.

GPU Core Temp Max:	62.3°C
GPU Hot Spot Max:	78.1°C
Memory Temp Max:	72.0°C
GPU Power Draw:		444W

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/89176892

1 hour ago, ssj92 said:

Guys, I have a question. 

 

So I have 3x 980Ti and I am trying to do 3-way SLI. I only have a 2-way and 4-way bridge. 

 

I tried using the 4-way bridge but it says SLI connector missing and only SLI's the first two GPUs. I tried flipping the bridge and also tried skipping the first connector and trying connectors 2, 3, 4 instead and same thing. 

 

Can the 4-way really not be used for 3-way SLI? I don't have a 3-way SLI bridge lol 

 

I am not sure of the answer because I have never had more than 2-way SLI. Maybe @johnkssscan answer, or know where you can get a 3-way SLI bridge.

I'm starting to have second thoughts about selling the 3090 KPE. I want the money more than the GPU right now, but I might regret it later. I'm thinking I should be able to get about $400 for the 3060 Ti FTW3 given it has a waterblock and shunt modded (and still has the original air cooler available). Thoughts? I could also separate the two, sell the block by itself and the GPU for a bit less, say $350.

I had to take the backplate block off for now because I can't fit the side panel on the case with the elbows on facing the glass. If I keep it, I will figure a new way to route the tubing to include that. Probably route the return line through it first, (in series versus parallel as I had it before,) then exit the case.

11 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Yep, you are correct bro Fox, but I feel I get some more value back from Galax than from Asus anyway. And this card should be easy to  sell in the second hand market later. + I have never looked on cards like 4080 and SKUs below in the 4xxx linup.. Its what it is. This was the only option I had. Paying etc 1500$+ and upwards for a Asus 4080 or equals custom AIC cards would be pure stupidity.

I think it is definitely the best option. I don't like how it looks, but for overclocking it should be the best option available and aesthetics are secondary. I also like the idea of choosing most brands over ASUS anyway. (But, you already know this.)

32 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Finally got the shipment of my 4090 HOF card confirmed. They sent it out today. And this will be my first ever HOF card😎 And I have now ordered the second needed 12VHPWR cable form Be Quiet. 

 

 

Bro @Mr. Fox The somewhat special 4090 HOF design is growing on me😎 I think I can handle the weird white design😆 Maybe I should re-name my all Black box to Black&White now, LOOL

 

Could be Galax wanted to be sure the "double chance" of fire introduced by Nvidia could be reduced/eliminated, HaHa 

 

 

And I can put the screen different places in the box. No need to mount the screen directly on the card itself. Fixed magnet fastening on the card. Maybe I should put in the  Puke video to show up in the HOF panel?😆

 

Btw. Found Asus Rog Strix 4090 OC in another Norwegaian webshop. In stock. But more expensive than the 4090 HOF card😵

 

Wonderful. Congratulations.

9 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

 

Not going to lie, I am a bit jealous. Congrats on the card. While we joke that since EVGA has left the GPU industry, no one else can measure up, the HOF cards are the only ones that went head to head with the KP cards. 

 

I can't wait to see what you can do with it.

The key to being extraordinary will be in unlocked voltage. Hopefully, Galax hasn't surrendered to the Green Goblin in that regard. Build quality aside, that has been the only reason the Kingpin and HOF GPUs have been able to shine. Without the voltage control they're just an extremely overbuilt GeFarts GPU that has been emasculated like the belly-button gamerboy variety.

I love it when accountability runs full circle and bad people get pantsed in public. I hope they go to jail after the smoke clears. They really deserve to. If you don't want to watch the entire clip, the really fun stuff that makes me happy starts at about 9:35. I just love Marjorie Taylor Greene... that lady rocks. She rips them a new posterior orifice and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it.

On 2/11/2023 at 4:55 PM, Mr. Fox said:

I did jump on the Disney boycott and canceled my Disney+ subscription a couple of days ago. The disgusting filth and utterly diabolical propaganda they attempt to brainwash our children with is beyond evil. 

On 2/11/2023 at 5:24 PM, ryan said:

Wait I'm subbed to Disney.. what did they do?

Injecting ludicrous nonsense like critical race theory, wokism, rainbow nazism and leftist world views into programming for young children. 

We live in a very sick, sick world and it is reaching a point of utterly diabolical absurdity... normalization of extreme stupidity and portraying corruption as being socially acceptable.

As we have already said/heard, the only NVIDIA upgrade is a 4090. 4060 will be an expensive downgrade from 3060. What a joke.

Sometimes change is not good. Sometimes saying "no" is the only correct answer. What I find most puzzling is the notion that anyone would want to deliberately reward Micro$lop's behavior when punishment and rejection and financial losses are what they deserve. Otherwise, you'll get more of the same, or worse.

Not particularly entertaining, but this guy clearly articulates the reason most Windows users would decide to make the switch. If you can listen to a very calm and dry 10-minute dialogue, I think most of us will find that his comments resonate with us. If you are ADD/ADHD like me, it's going to be hard to watch.

This should be a non-issue. If you are still using a 486 PC using an old kernel should not be the end of the world. In fact, it would probably work better on a kernel from 10 or 15 years ago. I can't imagine anyone still using such an old PC for anything other than novelty and nostalgia purposes.

7 minutes ago, ssj92 said:

 @Etern4l

What's up with the time inconsistency error? 

That is a RTC bug that occurs often with W8, W10 and W11 on older hardware. It is a Windows bug that Micro$lop has never fixed.