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That is an AIDA64 Sensor Panel. Yes, I like having a tall start menu so I have less reason to scroll. I like being able to see more things at one time without having to scroll. I set my start menu length to be between 2/3 and 3/4 of the display height.
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AMD is just an open invitation to participate in a comedy of errors, providing little more than an endless cycle of nonsense IMHO. I have extremely low confidence in anything that comes from them. Literally everything I have ever owned that was made by AMD had one or more things wrong with it. Nothing is perfect, but in stark contrast to my experience with AMD, I cannot remember owning anything with severe engineering defects or blatant flaws that was made by Intel or NVIDIA. I don't care about brand and I am not a fanboy for anyone. I just have a low tolerance for nonsense. -
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Just a follow up. Further testing of these same settings allows me to lower my DRAM voltage to 1.470V with no errors, even running more a aggressive and longer-running memory test. Read/write/copy and latency are excellent. -
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It could also be that they're so deeply emotionally involved with pleasuring motherboard manufacturing OEM partners that they have to keep doing this to keep them financially engaged. It requires time and money. That could also explain why it has been challenging to get top quality AM4 support for high-end enthusiast boards. Just think how upset most of them would be if they only had the opportunity to sell a new motherboard once every 5 to 6 years versus 2-2.5 years now because of pin-out compatibility over more than two generations. They'd all probably poop their pants. This is exactly why laptops can't be upgradable and have all their crap soldered to the motherboard. It's only to benefit the people selling laptops. To hell with the people buying them, they don't matter. Plus, they're so stupid they won't know any better. I think it's just inconsistent quality control and sloppy manufacturing. It seems to be an issue at the silicon level of individual CPUs rather than the motherboard. My own impression is the people that haven't had problems just got lucky in the silicon lottery. It also seems to get worse for those who have tried to do anything other than run their CPU stock. Overclocking seems to exacerbate the issue if you were one of the unlucky drawers of a short straw. -
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Tomorrow's best computers will most likely be built using today's best components. Computers are becoming more like cars. The newer they are, the crappier they are. It is rare to find examples of anything newer being better. And, by anything I literally mean anything (not just computers and cars). Newer almost always means compromised, less reliable, less durable, but more expensive. -
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Amazon. I get the 3 small containers and fill the syringe using the popsicle stick provided with the K5 Pro. https://www.amazon.com/viscous-thermal-replacement-60g-Aspire/dp/B00K04D3UK I use the 20ml syringe https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07JZ2HMJ7?th=1 -
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Maybe they should release a CPU with 300 Atom cores that run at 1.2GHz and 1 P-core that runs at 10GHz. -
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Brother @Tenoroon... You should place a thermal pad where indicated in these two spots on a GPU, This is to avoid an electrical short circuit with the heat sink touching live contact points on the VRM resistors. Then use K5 Pro everywhere else a pad used to be. -
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Go ahead and put a slightly thinner than stock thermal pad there on the VRM and lay a bead of K5 down on top of it. Put the K5 Pro into a big syringe and that makes applying it super easy. You can apply a bead or round glob on each component and let the heat sink compress it. That is SO MUCH faster, easier, cleaner and produces a consistent outcome. Trying to smear is on with a spatula kind of sucks. I will post a picture later for you. -
Just like masks and COVID "vaccines" (which are not even actually vaccines). Some people place extremely high value on placebos and token expressions, and some people sleep better at night just knowing they did something, even if what they did is of absolutely no value. Don't even bother to mention that what they did was potentially harmful or they'll have an emotional breakdown. Go ahead. Upgrade Winduhz and enjoy that warm, fuzzy feeling inside and don't worry about your computer running slower and being more insecure than the OS it replaced... you did the right thing. You obeyed your master.
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It took a while, but I finally got 6800 CL30 dialed in as a daily driver memory overclock. Some interesting discoveries in the process... Setting tRFC and tRFCPB too tight improves read speed, but degrades write, copy and latency and the best overall performance and latency are achieved leaving both of them set to Auto and letting the BIOS train the values. Likewise, tRCD and tRP set too tight produced errors. Moving from 38 to 39 reduced errors, moving to 40 eliminated them. CPU VDDQ and CPU VDD2 and DRAM VPP work best if left on Auto. Setting them manually to the values programmed by the BIOS when set on Auto causes inconsistency in stability. Setting tWR and tWR_MR too tight causes inconsistent results, while leaving them on Auto and letting the BIOS train the values had no effect on performance and eliminated errors in testing. Setting tWTR and tWTR_L at 14 and 28, respectively, displays as 8 and 19 using Dragon Ball. Asus MemTweakIt doesn't even read those two values and it does not accurately read the tWR value. Using either software tool can result in erroneous interpretation due to the BIOS values not being displayed accurately for a few settings. Most of the values displayed by Dragon Ball match the BIOS settings. -
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Your experience is consistent with mine. Pads with very high thermal conductivity ratings that are dense and hard generally suck on laptops. They are better quality and more effective, but you lose the benefit of that when they don't make proper contact and decrease die contact pressure. Most laptops do not have heat sinks that are capable of creating enough mounting pressure to crush the dense pads far enough to conform with uneven surfaces. I use K5 Pro on my laptops now instead of pads. Yes, it is a massive pain in the butt to clean up, but it's not like that is a recurring ritual, so it is not a big deal in the grand scheme of things. (There is no reason to clean it all off completely and have everything looking immaculate unless you are going back to using thermal pads later.) Other than K5 Pro, the extra soft and squishy thermal pads are often best for laptops with crappy fitting components. They easily conform to uneven surfaces and warped heat sinks with contact surfaces that are not precise. That is also the same reason I use K5 Pro. It fills the gaps no matter how uneven they are and results in fewer issues with contact at the die because it offers no resistance to compression. Because it is a dense paste, this will result in the least amount of space between contact surfaces because it will compress to a thickness that is less than a 0.5mm pad. So, die contact is never impeded by pads that are too thick using K5 Pro. -
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This was an interesting and informative video. Especially the "unexpected results" (15:56) which amounts to robbing Peter to pay Paul... good to know. Probably would affect an air cooled GPU more dramatically than a water cooled GPU. The Gelid Solutions GP-Ultimate and Nab Cooling pads seem to be the same product with different branding and they not only performed the best, but were among the most affordable. -
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Looking good. Did all GTX 580 have a vapor chamber, or only that model? -
When people allow Macro$haft and crApple to make all of their decisions it should be assumed and taken for granted that things will not end well. It will end in a manner that best suits their agenda... period.
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The manufacturers know this. By making the graphics card BGA they guarantee themselves a short product life and a repeat sale potential because the graphic chip will either fail or rapidly become too anemic to satisfy the poor sucker that bought it. Financial success is unlikely until we replace the people currently holding positions of political power and authority with new people holding views that are diametrically opposed to those currently in power. When the expressed and obvious agenda is to punish success, destroy wealth, confiscate security and eliminate freedom, things are going to stay really effed up for all of us.
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You forgot to use quotation marks around the word better in reference to the Asus turdbook. Which one is more desirable among chlamydia, gonorrhea, and syphilis? One can be worse than the other, but who wants one of them? The BGA GPU in the NH55JNNQ was a test and the buyers of it failed. "A little bit of leaven leavens the entire loaf." Why would anyone embrace filth on the basis that it is less filthy? Is rape an acceptable alternative to murder? Do we truly believe she "really secretly wanted it" even though the act was against her will? This trend will continue because stupid people are unaware of their own stupidity and because the feckless allow it even though they know it is unacceptable. Sometimes having nothing is the only good solution.
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Ignorance is generally only temporary. It is easily corrected through the collection of information, which becomes knowledge and intelligence as soon as it is applied. Stupidity is incurable, enduring beyond the reach of ignorance and even flourishing in the presence of knowledge. Ignorance is defendable and those that prey on it should be held accountable, but stupidity carries its own guilt and it is indefensible.
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I am not sure. I asked the question in the video comments on the MOAB video. I really love how that looks. My impression is that these are unique creations he builds for chassis building competition, but some of them may have been made as a promotional thing for Gigabyte, Zotac and MSI. No details are given in the videos, so I am just guessing. That Resident Evil typewriter is insanely gawdy looking, but the level of detail and intricate craftsmanship is amazing. The second video above, with that Mech-looking thing with legs, is also crazy good. It looks as though it is truly aged and battle-scarred. Even the appearance of grease on the pistons of the hydraulic cylinders is amazing. Edit: @jaybee83 I guess Zadak is a company. Never heard of them. Absurdly expensive. https://www.zadak-europe.com/collections/cases/products/moab-ii-elite-water-cooled-pc-case -
Open Shell definitely has more customization options for anyone interested in that. I lean toward the minimalist approach and I like the crystal clear smoked tint on the menu and how easy it is to exact color match the taskbar and Start menu using StartIsBack. I also prefer the square corners. I think they look better than rounded, and the round corners was an immediate turn-off for me as a Winduhz 11 first impression. That said, all other aspects of the Windows 7 GUI are superior compared to newer OSes, save for the rounded corners.
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This guy does some impressive fabrication work. I really like the MOAB II Elite, but the level of detail and craftsmanship on the others is pretty crazy. -
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I think this is where I am landing for my daily driver settings. This has proven to be stable in every scenario, including benching and a 3-hour session of Battlefield V.