Mr. Fox

It's so difficult to understand how anyone could actually like it and think it's good. But, in some countries various things that are disgusting, like insects and rodents, are consumed on a regular basis and sometimes considered delicacies, so go figure.

In my mind that is a good thing. I take active steps to block them from molesting my computers with update filth and if I want a version upgrade I will handle that myself on my own terms.

Don't feel bad about calling them out. Any ill will and hate cast their way was foreseeable and should have been expected as an immediate and direct result of their deliberate bad choices and material misrepresentations as a company. When public ridicule is ineffective as a remedy you know it is time to pull the plug and walk away... do not resuscitate. Any company that behaves like that is not worthy of life support. In my mind, that kind of deceptive product representation and misleading behavior is tantamount to signing their own death warrant.

And, the exceptionally ignorant ones will actually care about it rather than focusing on multi-core capabilities.

It is good to see the Redmond Retards continue to fail hard with decisions that demonstrate they are a cluster of imbeciles. This has potential to be useful as a means of signing their own death warrant. It confirms their nefarious intent and documents the fact that they are unworthy of patronage. Even some of the Kool-Aid drinking sheeple will be smart enough to know when it is time to draw a line in the sand with respect to how much idiocy they will tolerate.

If there was a "guarantee" that you would get a better bin than almost any 12900K anyone has ever seen, I would be willing to pay the extra $200 for a 12900KS. But, a 100MHz bump for $200 is stupid. It would only make sense if you had an abnormally poor quality 12900K, Otherwise, I would save the $200 and give a lesser quality CPU more voltage.

Yes, Lutris is a front end for wine and it works really well. I use it for running Cinebench (all versions) on Linux and it is fairly easy to use. It is not super-intuitive, but I taught myself how to use it through trial and error (on purpose) rather than reading a tutorial or looking for YouTube videos. Lutris can also be used to combine access to games titles from multiple clients (Steam, Origin, Uplay, etc.) into a common interface. If most of your games are in Steam, then you don't really need it for Steam because Proton and the "experimental" option works extremely well with many Windows-only games. It sort of launches each title in its own little virtual machine. It is getting really close, I think. The DX12-only titles are problematic, but even those that all DX11 and Vulkan seem to work well on Linux. I think it is important to get the word out. I believe there are many people hanging by a thread that would love to kick Windows trash OS to the curb and the only thing holding them back is gaming or a certain software title that they believe they can't live without. Steam Proton makes Linux gaming nearly effortless because it does all of the configuration in the background. Installing and launching a Windows game in Steam looks and feels no different than installing or launching the same title in Windows. I debated whether to add the thread here or the gaming section and went with this option because this section of the forum is for Linux. But, the logic is certainly there for either location. Pros and cons to both. I will let @Reciever and @Hiew decide if they want to move it. It would be nice if there could be something like a "shortcut" to it in one place or the other that lead to the same thread, but gives the appearance on the surface that the thread is in both locations. I am not sure if that kind of option is available with Invision. I will definitely continue tinkering with Steam Proton to see how many of the games I like (many in my library I do not like and never install them in Windows), If anyone has a request they want me to test, if I have it in my Steam library I can test it even if it is not a title that I personally enjoy. Here are the titles in my Steam library: https://steamcommunity.com/id/mr_fox_rox/games/?tab=all

Today I had a few minutes to spare and installed Steam on Pop_OS! and I chose 7 games from my library randomly. Of the 7 chosen, only one didn't work (Gears 5). Of the 6 that worked, all had over 100 FPS except for Crysis Remastered. It was still very playable, but seems to have some issues that slow it down, and it might work better with an older GeForce driver. By my measurements, the gaming experience was the equivalent of running the same game on Windows. Nothing was missing or messed up. I will test more for functionality and share what I find.

Ok folks. Here is a thread to discuss, share, troubleshoot, ask questions, celebrate or complain about Linux gaming. Linux has come a long, long way recently. In great part possibly because of Steam and Proton support. What do you enjoy playing when running Linux? @Raiderman

Honestly, the Winduhz 11 "scheduler" doesn't seem to do a damn thing as far as I can tell. My 12900K performs better with Windows 7, Windows 10 LTSC 2019 and Windows 10 LTSC 2021 than it does with Winduhz 11. I can't point to one single thing that makes Winduhz 11 a better OS to use. Not one. Don't waste your time with it. It's a piece of crap.

So, I played around with Linux a little more. Installed 7 Windows games from Steam, chosen completely at random, and the only one that did not work was Gears 5. These are the only 7 I have tried and 6 out of 7 ain't bad. Bright Memory Infinite, Crysis Remastered, Death Stranding, Doom Eternal, Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition and Quake 2 RTX all played well. Only Crysis Remastered had a low framerate for the quality of my hardware.

Nice! Glad you got a good sample on the GPU replacement. 🙂 I had trouble with EVGA Eleet X1 on Z590 as well. Apparently it works correctly with an 11th Gen CPU, but it is totally goofed up using an 10th Gen CPU on the Z590 board. Eleet X1 works perfectly for my Z490 Dark with the corresponding 10900K CPU mated with the proper chipset. Fortunately, we don't have to rely on software like a laptop jockey does. Except for some quick fine-tuning of settings that are already pretty much dialed in using the BIOS I don't use Windows software for CPU and memory overclocking. But, when it works it is nice/convenient. I use Dragon Power and Dragon Ball and similar competitor's software mainly to view what current BIOS settings are applied and for capturing those settings in screenshots that I save for future reference, etc. Most of the time I make the actual adjustment directly in the firmware.

I do not think the program was actually designed for Z690. Likewise, Dragon Ball works for realtime memory tweaks except when it doesn't. About 75% of the time Dragon Ball works. When it doesn't work, you can change the settings in the software, but they are not applied. MSI Center UWP bloatware is even more buggy and also screws everything up with e-cores. I have that bloated piece of crap utility installed on my disposable OS for testing and I do not hesitate to call it rubbish. It is not as bad as ASUS Armory Crate in terms of foolishly wasting system restores with worthless bloat running in the background, but it is still pretty poopy. I sure do wish that the OEMs would knock it off with all of the horrible Winduhz Store digital garbage. None of it is worth a damn. All they are accomplishing is demonstrating how incompetent they have become and making end users unhappy and frustrated about it in the process. They'd be smart to go back to making standalone x86 and x64 software utilities. The classic form of software development is far superior to the new UWP filth. Intel Control Center, XTU, NVIDIA Control Panel, Realtek Control Panel... all of the new stuff like that which is being distributed through Micro$lop's Store is totally junk.

I haven't tried to use the software to set it higher than that. I have set it higher in the BIOS, but haven't use that software for changing RAM voltage, only CPU voltage and core clocks. I should see if it is capped in the software. Have you tried, and if so was it limited? Unrelated subject - I sure do LOVE this remote "Tuning Controller" control panel thing. It works excellent.

That's looking pretty sweet, bro,

With AMD sheeple like this tree-hugging retard having a voice, we can expect more trash in the days ahead from the RGB Squad (RGB Squad: Red=AMD, Green=NVIDIA and Blue=Intel.)

The list of things wrong with laptops seems to be endless. The only way for BIOS capture on a laptop is to use an HDMI capture card and capture the output to an external monitor. But, that usually will not work on a laptop with Optimus because no external display output is available in the BIOS with hybrid graphics, only the laptop internal display works until you reach the Windows or Linux desktop. It certainly has me totally spoiled. Just remember that your saved profiles are BIOS-version specific. You cannot apply the saved profiles from one BIOS version to a newer or older version. That's where the recording of your custom settings or screenshots become valuable. Flashing the firmware will also erase any profiles saved in the firmware environment, but if you saved them to USB they are easily imported as long as the BIOS version is the same.

One of the nice things about good desktop motherboards is the fact that you can save your BIOS overclocck profiles in NVRAM as well as export them to external storage. As far as taking notes to preserve information, I don't write things down much with a keyboard and far less with pen and paper, but I do save lots of screenshots to capture things I don't want to lose track of. I go for many months without using a pen and paper for anything and I sign my name to something maybe once or twice a year, at most. I used to have impressive penmanship and got compliments all of the time about beautiful handwriting and now it is difficult because I so seldom write anything. It feels awkward and clumsy to hold a pen or pencil in my hand. That is kind of sad when you stop and think about it. Our digital culture de-evolution is causing it. Even more sad is the fact that school kids no longer learn cursive handwriting as part of their so-called public school education. It has been removed from the curriculum in most venues. In fact, my grandkids were specifically told NOT to use cursive writing and were threatened with getting lower scores on handwritten tests if they recorded their answers using cursive handwriting.

People go to college and earn degrees that prove their effectiveness in the art of deception that they call marketing. Unfortunately, there are no college courses that equip graduates to be resistant to it. There is no deliverance from their natural inclination to remain stupid in spite of credentials that suggest that somehow they are not.

Yes, it is all about manipulating consumer perception and clever marketing. Good results only happen by accident. If and when they actually occur, they are simply a nice coincidence. How much DIMM voltage did you need for that RAM overclock? The screenshot got severely stripped and degraded by the forum so the actual numbers are difficult to read because of the poor resolution.

NVIDIA usually makes deliberate bad decisions quietly. I could not find any press release where they announced it to the general public. I think it was one of those "Hey, let's abandon our faithful notebook OEM/ODM partners and shaft high performance laptop owners at the same time" shyster maneuvers, and I am not convinced that some of the more despicable OEM/ODM "partners" didn't have some closed door dealings with the Green Goblin to conspire with the idea of removing GPU upgrades as an option. It was too convenient and affordable for consumers, so they had to make it to where their only available option was to buy new disposable turdbook trash instead of slapping in a newer and more powerful GPU that cost them a fraction of what a complete new turdbook does. It worked for CPUs equally well. The BGA crap CPUs were the rectal thermometer and it was probably immediately obvious that the kiddos were more than happy to drop their drawers and take one up the tailpipe for the sake of thin and light cuteness. Now notebooks are universally gonad-free disposable feces.

Wait, what? How can that be? My friends on Facepoot told me newer is always better. I need to see some random dude I have never heard of before send tweets on Twatter to prove it. Actual data is too unreliable to believe it. 😆

Congratulations on the accomplishment. Nice job, bro. That is looking really good. Nice work. It is crazy to think we are running DIMM modules at 6.4GHz. There may be some other voltage settings that you can tweak. I will grab some BIOS screenshot for you. So much extra stuff with 12th Gen with not much documentation. Some of what seems like high voltage is "normal" now. Edit: BIOS snapshots attached.

Feel free to try these memory settings and see how they work with your kit.

Is the IC on the DDR5-6400 kit SK Hynix, Micron or Samsung? Getting used to the MSI BIOS has been kind of strange. The sub-menus in different sections are pretty standard, but some aspects of the hierarchy seem illogical after spending years with ASUS and EVGA firmware. Same was true of Gigabutt BIOS, only worse. I may reach out to Prema and ask him to unlock menus. There are some things that MSI chose to hide that I want exposed. For example, I want access to disable Intel ME like I had with EVGA. ASUS also lacked that option. There is no reason for Intel ME to exist IMHO... totally worthless. I want the option to enable SPD write access. I want the option exposed to control the number of seconds to wait/delay for user input on the BIOS boot menu so I don't have to hurry with Delete or F2 to enter Setup. I want the option to always show the BIOS boot selection menu and wait for user input between POST and OS hand-off instead of having to frantically spam F11 to choose the drive I want to boot from without having to alter BBS order. I want access to selectively disable individual SATA and NVMe ports at will. EVGA firmware has all of those options, and I used them all. ASUS has most of them.