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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I still have the chiller. I can't remember the last time I turned it on. I think it was last year. I probably need to flush out the tank in it. One of the reasons I lost interest in it is that it is a total waste on a Ryzen CPU. Getting colder doesn't really give you any overclocking headroom unless you go to extreme cold and use BCLK to increase the core ratio beyond AMD's sissy-boy fused limit crap. I can easily connect the chiller directly to the GPU and bypass the GPU on the loop inside. I have used quick-disconnect fittings to facilitate doing that, just haven't mustered the desire to screw with it. Talking about it makes me want to, but if I don't run with it when the desire hits me an hour later I will decide it is not worth the hassle, LOL. Now that I moved away from an open bench and built both systems with internal cooling loops it is less convenient than it used to be and doing things that are inconvenient has become less attractive to me over the past couple of years. You probably noticed the RAM fan attached to the top radiator. I have the RAM water cooling parts, but haven't found enough desire to screw with converting it. I think the amount of effort required for a comparatively small reward with modern parts has become a major demotivating/discouraging factor for me. With the portable AC forcing freezing air into the air cooled GPU... https://www.3dmark.com/sn/7957336 -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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Here was this run on normal air (no AC) Same exact OC profile after installing the waterblock. Higher boost, higher score, lower temps. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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Well, my ""official" benchmarks were with a portable AC ramming 34°F (1°C) air directly into the GPU so the water cooler is not going to get it that cold due to the ambient temperatures. I can compare against the benchmarks I ran without the AC unit. I think I have a few of those. Boost clocks are absolutely staying higher on the waterblock than they were on normal air cooling. The GPU and memory are about 20°C cooler under load and memory is essentially equalized with GPU core temps now. The memory was generally 10-15°C warmer than the core. I hate NVIDIA's "normal operating temperature" GPU boost limits as much today as I did when they introduced that crappiness into the mix. Things were better when clocks ran full blast until you reached TJMax. Now that stupid cancer has spread to CPUs. I did not take pictures and figured I would do that when I do the shunt mod. The resistors are very close to the 12VHPWR connector, so I am going to have to be very careful not to get that too hot. I had multiple doctor appointments yesterday so I was trying to hurry to get it done. I am assuming I need to shunt the two right next to the power connector and no others. I am considering the idea of doing a shunt mod and installing a ElmorLabs EVC2SE for voltage control. Part of me wants to do it real bad and part of me doesn't care anymore. I haven't decided yet. I am less motivated to do some of these things than I used to be. There are days that I question my intelligence for even buying the 5090. It was definitely not something I needed and my passion for this is starting to dwindle. But, when I am playing with it I am glad I did. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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I just finished installing the 5090 Core block. It's pretty decent and it made a huge improvement in temperatures. It is not nearly as polished and does not have the same degree of aesthetic elegance as the 4090 Core. (It does not conceal the PCB and have the same high-end feel to it, but it is still really nice.) The only thing Alphacool did that I would consider stupid is put the warranty void seal on the front, directly in plain view instead on on the motherboard side. After I have used it long enough to know there is no problem with it I am peeling that off... idiots. I wish the block assembly was 1.5-2.0 inches longer. It is just barely long enough to reach the GPU support bracket attached to the motherboard. (It is about a half inch narrower than the motherboard.) But, I bet SFF jockeys are probably glad it's not longer. I am going to have to order shunt resistors. I checked my stash and mine are more than 2 mOhm. Tearing down the Solid GPU I have to say that I am highly impressed. The GPU and the air cooler build quality are every bit as excellent and high precision quality as the 4090 Suprim. I still think it was a poor value, but I am glad that I bought this particular model and not one of the other "inexpensive" options. Zotac did an amazing job on it. The "Solid" name is very fitting. You can see that stupid decal to the left of the fitting manifold, straddling the cold plate and acrylic. Some bubbles need still to find their way out. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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Wonderful. I hope they have a great time. California as a whole, and San Francisco in particular, are an absolute mess by every measurement. Portland and Seattle are nearly as bad now. Marginally better. Portland had been one of my favorite cities for years and now it is a truly horrible place that I go out of my way to avoid. Once beautiful and vibrant cities that have turned into dangerous, filthy cyberpunk garbage dumps. All three have something in common that makes them what they are today. Human Wasteland | San Francisco, CA Human Feces Map -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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I think we should call BTF trash WTF instead. The real value comes from the use of an Arabic word and making everyone except for a small minority of PC enthusiasts in the world that speak Arabic, and otherwise would not give a rat's butt, have to stop and Google search just to try to figure out what the crap A$$zeus is selling this time... Only to find out that Google Translate cannot identify the word. The same word for "gold" also means to go away, to leave, to depart. to disappear, to vanish. to decline, to dwindle. That is actually a more fitting use of the word in connection with the ASUS brand. They should include a small plastic figurine like this to set on the backplate. -
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Thank you for the info. -
I respect your priviledge to be wrong, misinformed or uninformed. If that floats your boat, more power to you. I think it is clear that the opposing view is totally irrelevant to both sides and that will not be swayed by a civil exchange of views or personal insults. But, that's OK when it doesn't matter what the opposition thinks about it. I think the insults help the person hurling them feel better. That's OK, too. Feeling good is nice for the person feeling it.
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AI is getting really scary. It is already being used for nefarious purposes and it will only get worse. The parodies are funny and cute, but they are a wake up call. All of the fake garbage people believed that is being exposed based on leftist talking head brainwashing will be eclipsed by fake videos of "newsworthy" events that never happened. As far as whether to cry or laugh, I think the off-the-rails insanity of the small group of woke leftist sheeple freaking out about their rapidly growing irrelevance and advancing mental illness is worth crying about. It is so sad to see how many irrational reprobate idiots that lack the mental capacity to discern the truth still exist, but proportionally they are a small and rapidly shrinking group. Some of them were smart enough to have figured out that they have been victims of years of gaslighting and woke brainwashing and many of them are defecting to the side of truth, decency and normalcy. Their echo chamber has fewer irrational voices than it ever has and those of average or greater intelligence don't give a rat's butt about their silly, corrupt, small-minded and mentally insane echo chamber any more. It is understandable that people that are not American and live in countries still run by the kind of creepy demented bastards that recently had a foothold here still have no clue because they get their information from the same Soros, Inc. fake news shadow organization as the shrinking group of morons that need mental health care in the US has been.
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*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
I am probably not going to shunt and block in the same operation. I am not sure what dimension of resistor is needed on this GPU and I have not had time to research it between being crazy busy with projects at work, too many doctor appointments and exhausting myself getting UPS to correct their incompetence. I know I need 1 or 2 mOhm but there are different sizes and I need to confirm which resistors on the PCB need to be shunted. My 4090 Core block is also super nice. Out of the EK, Bykski and Alphacool blocks this one, the 4090 Core and the Aurora block on my 3080 Turbo are my favorites. The Bykski blocks are good but have kind of a dated look to them. Bykski's new aesthetic for 50-series looks really nice but I have seen some issues with fit being reported. All of my EK blocks have ended up having cracks around the screw holes and I won't buy the EK blocks anymore. I am sorry to see that has happened to yours. Those cracks on yours are much larger than mine have had. Mine were always small and not obvious at first glance. I do not know if it is something with their acrylic or if they are overtightening the screws. -
Big shout to our Alberta Brothers. Keep the pedal to the metal and don't give the Carney Clown Posse an inch. 🤘
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The biggest problem for Steve and GamersNexus is the fact the YouTube is an Alphabet, Inc company and history has shown us that Alphabet, YouTube and Google by extension, never does anything right because it is the right thing to do. They always do what benefits them the most, promote an extreme leftist woke worldview agenda and whatever the AI decides to do within those parameters without any benefit of reason. And, because they helped program the AI it is going to be screwed up to some degree for that reason alone. GIGO. It doesn't matter if the copyright strike is without merit. Chances are pretty good the only way that Google/YouTube will put a rational human being's eyes or brain on the situation is in response to litigation and a result of force. The only reason this is getting attention is because GamersNexus is a high-profile YouTube channel. YouTube abuses countless other channels exactly the same every day. It simply doesn't get noticed as much, and sometimes not at all. Anything that doesn't promote what fits their narrative is potentially subject to attack, meritless censorship or takedown. This problem is not specific to the Alphabet companies. It applies the same to all of the companies involved, but in the context of the issue at hand (GamersNexus) it is a YouTube/Google problem. Under any other circumstances I believe that Micor$lop, crApple, Meta or any others would be guilty of the same behaviors. They are all dishonest, NSFW lunatic scum that cannot and should not be trusted with anything that matters. -
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Mr. Fox replied to Mr. Fox's topic in Desktop Hardware
Congratulations on the promotion(s) brother. I have no doubt they were well-deserved. Honestly, that 1080 Nova 360x360 radiator and case are as good or better than a MO-RA 360. Works just as well, costs less, weighs a whole lot less and takes up less space than a MO-RA, just not as flashy-looking. I loved mine and sometimes wish I had not sold it. @tps3443 had excellent service from his, too. If I were still using an open bench that would be the one I recommend. You can mount your D5 pumps/reservoirs directly to each side of it. As far as fans go, you need very high static pressure. Arctic P12 MAX or P12 Pro are the best bang for the buck. Don't spend more for something not better that makes more noise. Here is a parts list I recommend for the external radiator build based on what I have used. High Static Pressure Fans: https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-Pro-PST-CO/dp/B0DJDCBCC2 -or- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJDBV48H Reasonably priced, high quality and fantastic 6.9 mmH₂O static pressure. The outer ring on the tips of the fan blades is a design advantage and makes the blades stronger as well as being more effective. Power Supply: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYZMK89X?th=1 You can buy molex or SATA extensions (depending on what your pumps use) like these and cut the input end off to create two pigtail connectors to solder the output ends to the power and ground wires on the PSU to run the fans and pumps. This type of PSU unit is compact and looks better than a bunch of extra un-used wires. Before I discovered this type of PSU I had used these before as well, which worked fine but were a lot more bulky in comparison. Fan Hub and Speed Control: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DS2273B8?th=1 I recently discovered this item and besides working well for fan speed it is more affordable than what I used in the past (a Noctua control with a manual knob that costs a lot more) that required a separate fan hub. This will run all 9 fans with SATA power from the PSU. Custom Fan Filter: To help keep the fans and radiator clean and free of lint and dust, I made a custom filter using a magnetic black fiberglass window screen similar to this cut-to-fit kit. Easy to remove and clean and looks like it was made specifically for the application when all is said and done. The steel Nova 1080 radiator case supports the magnetic attachment. D5 Pump and Reservoir: I have owned two of these and they are excellent and affordable. They fit well on the sides of the Alphacool 1080 Nova radiator housing. Alphacool Core 100 Aurora reservoir Acetal/Acryl with VPP Pump. You can attach the black acetal pump block directly to the radiator case using the included machine screws. No need for the included brackets. Just drill the holes in the radiator housing and bolt it on. Tip: use the bracket designed to bolt the pump body to a 120/140mm fan as a template for drilling the holes to bolt it to the case. No need to measure the distance between the holes on the pump body before drilling. -
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It was difficult and stressful to resolve. Thank goodness there are always a few good people that care enough to help, but sometimes finding the right button to push is difficult. Sometimes you never do. I think I got lucky this time. I called her out by name in the survey that wasn't positive other than her involvement. -
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I am sorry about what Norwegian citizens and those of many other nations have had to endure at the hands of corrupt governments. Ours was on the fast track to destruction like the others due to extremely corrupt government. There is still more that needs to be done, but the needle is finally moving away from E toward F (fuel gauge analogy). I am middle-class and I am already benefitting greatly in terms of personal finances. My retirement nest egg has recovered from the damaged done by the prior regime and grown more than ever. I will owe significantly less in taxes this year, and even less in 2026 and beyond. The cost of groceries and gasoline is quickly recovering from the inflationary damage they caused. The only ones that stand to lose are those that can work and have taken advantage of the ability to choose not to. Those that cannot work due to physical and mental challenges have seen and will see even more of an increase in their SSI (welfare) benefits. Many that were being unjustly supported by taxpayers are suffering, as they should be. The media calls it "unfair" but everyone else sees it for what it is: a crackdown on fraud and a discontinuation of the illegal receipt of benefits not deserved. -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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Be careful to not believe anything you hear or read from mainstream media sources. They are dishonest and most of what they publish is a deliberate creation of distortions, fabrications and inappropriate extrapolations. Crafted for the sole purpose of deception and division, perpetrated by a dying cluster of woke America-hating lunatics and criminals trying to resuscitate a nefarious agenda that is being dismantled brick-by-brick. Light destroys darkness. The part nobody that suffers from TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) wants to talk about is that the current administration has already delivered in spades on their promises and the nation is already raking in a fortune in tariffs and rebalanced trade arrangements. Things are going exactly as they should be and how patriotic smart people want them to be going, with unprecedented federal revenue flowing in from foreign sources (reciprocal tariffs) and on pace to eclipse what has ever been collected through domestic taxation of American citizens. Combined with the successful seek and destroy mission on internal government-backed fraud and misuse of tax dollars for unworthy and inappropriate purposes, wrongs are being righted in more ways than what can be counted. In a few short months this has been successful to such an extent that income taxes on social security benefits (which could be viewed as double taxation), tips and overtime are no longer necessary, federal income tax obligations for most private citizens and small businesses has been dramatically reduced, with potential to be abolished if they do not get too much insurrection activity from the leftist lunatic fringe. In spite of the insane shrieking and whining about it by a tiny group of traitors and plain old weirdos, our borders are secure for the first time ever. Illegal immigration is moving rapidly in the direction of zero and has already decreased 93% compared with February 2024. South American drug, weapons and human trafficking cartels are being systematically exterminated (literally) by our amazing armed forces. The city with our nation's highest murder rate (our Capital, Washington DC) and out of control crime sanctuary is being reigned in. In a matter of days, the murder rate has been cut from unprecedented levels to single digits in DC, carjacking has decreased by 83%, robberies by 46%, car thefts by 21%, and overall violent crime is down 22%. More good and right things have been achieved in 6 months than the past 60 years, and there is more to come. Thank God. UPDATE! Good news! The effort paid off. A person at UPS cared and listened and looked into it. Based on things mentioned in my emails she realized it was erroneously calculated by UPS. The duty was reduced from around $461 to $81. I thanked her and let her know that I sincerely appreciate her caring enough to re-evaluate it. Hopefully the UPS delivery driver will return with the package tomorrow or Monday and collect the $81. I also emailed Aquatuning to let them know. See attached redacted info. Revised Invoice | UPS -
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Well, the saga continues. It appears that the people at UPS have only fecal matter for brains. They are saying that a punitive 200% tariff applies to steel and aluminum products where the country of smelting it not known. This is a serious flaw in their application of federal regulations, but I do not have much confidence that I will convince them of their error. The product is not manufactured from steel; primarily copper, acrylic and nickel plating The product has no aluminum components except for the backplate The product is manufactured in China, so "country of smelting" is not unknown Other than the aluminum backplate, none of the other materials are covered by the regulation The extra 200% is being applied to the full retail value of the finished product, which is primarily copper and acrylic. If the country of smelting were unknown the 200% would apply only to the value of aluminum material used to make the backplate, not the enitre retail product Here is what the imbecile that replied to my email offered as his half-assed rationale for applying the normal import duty + extra 200% tariff: UPS Section 232 Steel and Aluminum Form I have messaged Aquatuning by blind copy on all of my email communications with these idiots at UPS. This whole thing is absolutely ludicrous and it is entirely due to their ignorance and incompetence and nothing to do with trade regulations. Rather, their inappropriate application of regulations that are not even applicable to the shipment. Here are my last two replies to them: -
*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D
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I don't understand why anyone would want one anyway. Those beige and brown Noctua fans are the ugliest fans in the world. Why would anyone want that on their GPU? I mean it is one thing for something cheap to be ugly. Something as expensive as a 5090 needs to be superior by all measurements or it is a fail. It needs to run, look, feel and smell phenomenal and be near-perfect to partially make up for the absolutely ludicrous price. At some point the product, service and customer experience degrades to a point that profit margin, no matter how great, will not be sufficient to save a company from destruction. Without sufficient gross revenue there is no opportunity for net profit. Budweiser learned that the hard way not long ago and came close to biting the big one. And, the way they found out is something we need to see leveraged more often. Consumers wielding the sword of rejection and organized boycotts are weapons that should be leveraged more often and in a more brutal manner than they normally are. I'd like to see things like that happen with regularity and frequency. The only way to reach their brains is by punching them in the wallet hard enough to draw blood. Well, it looks my email to UPS stirred up a bits of a hornet's nest. It is not resolved yet, but apparently a big shot in their Supply Chain Solutions department got ahold of it and copied a bunch of team leaders and supervisors with instructions to assist me and reply to all (with me on copy) with a response. If it is not resolved today I suspect it will be tomorrow or Monday. I'm less concerned now than I have been since Tuesday when I was given the erroneous notification of the amount due. Three of the supervisors copied on the email are out of office. One of them has an out-of-office reply with key names, emails and phone numbers I am going to hang onto for future reference. They might come in handy if I need to kick the hornet's nest again. 🤣 -
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I suspect part of the issue is everyone I speak to has a heavy accent suggesting they are offshored contractors in India or the Philippines. Good chance they are merely call center grunts. Maybe as more pressing matters get resolved the Trump Administration can implement something to discourage or make it unaffordable for American companies to use foreign entities to service American consumers. I would love never having to speak to a foreigner that doesn't work for a company that I need help from. A high percentage of the time they are utterly worthless and cause more frustration than satisfaction. Because they are not employees of the companies they represent they often have no skin in the game and don't genuinely care about the customers looking for help. -
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So, the block is loaded on the truck for delivery but the amount due has not been corrected. No response from the past email. Spoke to another person again this morning. Now I am given a similar email with a "T" added. AKNENTYRVW at UPS dot com. Everyone I can speak to identifies the error. Nobody I can speak to has the ability to correct their mistake. I forwarded the previous email to the new/different address given to me today. The billing department number for this issue is 866-493-7140 x5. You cannot escalate to a supervisor. Apparently nobody has a supervisor (yeah, right). I was told that if the driver arrives today and the amount has not been corrected to let the driver know that I am not rejecting the delivery but UPS cannot complete the delivery until they correct their mistake and ask the driver to bring it back when he has the correct amount due to collect on delivery. The new owner of the 9070 XT is happy. -
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A$$zeus is the retarded god of customer-screwing scams and schemes. -
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Yeah that proprietary connector ruins it as an option all by itself. So does the requirement for a BTF motherboard and having a case that supports BTF motherboards. The idea of paying an absurd price for something with those kinds of strings attached is a non-starter for me. It would also be harder to sell when you no longer want or need it. -
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After speaking with multiple people at UPS I ended up with a person in their billing department who had a very heavy Indian acccent that assisted me. He confirmed the calculation was entirely inaccurate and told me to email the UPS customs department the tracking number for correction at AKNENYRVW @ UPS dot COM. Because of his accent I confirmed the address three times using phoentic verification for each character (A as in apple, B as in boy, etc.). He confiirmed the error was internal and told me the tariff should be 20% of the $179.68 purchase price according to their table, which makes the grand total about $10 less than if I had purchased it from a US reseller like Titan Rig or ModMyMods. I am totally fine with paying that, just need it resolved so I can accept delivery. It looks like the decimal point was placed in the wrong position and is one digit too far to the right. I am waiting for a response to the email he told me to send. Edit 8/22: No response from the past email. Spoke to another person again this morning. Now I am given a similar email with a "T" added. AKNENTYRVW at UPS dot com. -
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Thank you. After I talk to UPS about correcting the mistake tomorrow I will share what I learn, whether it was a simple mistake or something else. There is no way the amount they are stating can be accurate. When I asked for a return and explained why the customer service rep spoke to their supervisor about it and they offered that instead of a return/refund and I took it. The reason I requested a return was the price drop and explained I could buy an exact replacement (from them) cheaper, not product dissatisfaction or malfunction. I do not believe it is their policy to do that. I have found the people at NewEgg are usually accommodating when I am polite, kind and respectful to them on the phone and explain what my concerns are.