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Nope. No need for it, but would not even considered if I needed it. They are not releasing a Hydro Copper block for it, and the 3090 KPE Hydro Copper won't fit per EVGA. So, there is no point in purchasing one. You'll be stuck with that worthless hybrid cooler abortion, which is totally unacceptable. The replacement 12900K from Amazon is a little bit better. 87 SP, with 95 vs 94 on P-cores and 72 vs 65 on E-cores. So, not wonderful by any means but I am thankful it's better. I was able to drop the core voltage by 0.040V for 5.2GHz.

While you are waiting for our friend(s) to respond, here is a butt-load of 11800h results you can look at. All Results: https://hwbot.org/hardware/processors#key=core_i7_11800h Cinebench R23 https://hwbot.org/submission/4866641_mylgjy_cinebench___r23_single_core_with_benchmate_core_i7_11800h_1597_cb https://hwbot.org/submission/4863686_killerpole87_cinebench___r23_multi_core_with_benchmate_core_i7_11800h_15229_cb Cinebench R20 https://hwbot.org/submission/4863679_killerpole87_cinebench___r20_with_benchmate_core_i7_11800h_5877_cb Cinebench R15 https://hwbot.org/submission/4899284_killerpole87_cinebench___r15_with_benchmate_core_i7_11800h_2382_cb Cinebench R11.5 https://hwbot.org/submission/4866646_mylgjy_cinebench___r11.5_core_i7_11800h_25.01_cb

Yes, 100%. A case as big as you have space available to accommodate is ideal. Having a massive case that is larger than you need it to be makes life about a million times easier, and it gives you room to add whatever you want to add later on without having to worry about where you can put it. It really sucks when you do not have enough space to accommodate everything you want, and it is not fun having to figure out where to shoehorn things like a jigsaw puzzle. You end up having a suffocated mess that can't breathe properly because there is no airflow with every nook and cranny filled with something.

FINAL FANTASY XIV: Endwalker Benchmark Tested on: 6/21/2022 9:23:32 Score: 30601 Average Frame Rate: 214.3941 Minimum Frame Rate: 95 Performance: Extremely High -Easily capable of running the game on the highest settings. Loading Times by Scene Scene #1 1.53 sec Scene #2 2.229 sec Scene #3 3.218 sec Scene #4 1.433 sec Scene #5 0.651 sec Total Loading Time 9.061 sec DAT:s20220621092332.dat Screen Size: 1920x1080 Screen Mode: Full Screen DirectX Version: 11 Graphics Presets: Preset 1 General -Wet Surface Effects: Enabled -Occlusion Culling: Enabled -LOD on Distant Objects: Enabled -Real-time Reflections: Maximum -Edge Smoothing (Anti-aliasing): FXAA -Transparent Lighting Quality: High -Grass Quality: High -Parallax Occlusion: High -Tessellation: High -Glare: Standard Shadows -Self: Display -Other NPCs: Display Shadow Quality -LOD on Shadows: Enabled -Shadow Resolution: High - 2048p -Shadow Cascading: Best -Shadow Softening: Strong Texture Detail -Texture Filtering: Anisotropic -Anisotropic Filtering: x8 Movement Physics -Self: Full -Other NPCs: Full Effects -Limb Darkening: Enabled -Radial Blur: Enabled -Screen Space Ambient Occlusion: HBAO+: Standard -Glare: Normal -Water Refraction: Normal Cinematic Cutscenes -Depth of Field: Enabled System Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC (ver.10.0.19044 Build 19044) 12th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-12900K 16193.781MB NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 Ti(VRAM 11048 MB)

As part of my "spring cleaning" exercise, I replaced the Noctua fans (which I never liked much) with these. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CDL4TWK I am pleased with them. They have decent static pressure and work well with my thick radiators. The wiring for the fans and RGB is flat and thin, and long. So, wiring management was very simple. I went with the 12V 4-pin option simply because they are less expensive for some reason. $28 USD for a 3-pack with free next day delivery is hard to beat. Included with each 3-pack is a 1-to-3 splitter for the fans and lighting (one of each) which adds further value to the already good price. I really like the 5000D Airflow case except for the idiotic lack of ample space above the mobo. Granted, I am using thick radiators, but you can see how tight it is. It would have been so much better had they made the case 1 inch taller and put that inch between the mobo and top panel. 2 more inches would have made it even more awesome. You could then go with push/pull fans and not be cramped. And, that would make going with dual 360mm radiators feasible, instead of 240+360 radiators. Being cramped always sucks, which is one reason I loathe SFF products.

I spent literally about 14 hours on Father's Day dismantling Banshee, taking everything apart and cleaning while I was waiting for the Strix and 12900K delivery. I had been running pure distilled water with some PrimoChill antimicrobial additive and the amount of filth that was in it was truly surprising. I disassembled the EKWB GPU block and gave that a good scrubbing down, scrubbed the film off the inside of the flexible tubing and cleaned the inside of both D5 pumps and the reservoir. It was quite nasty. Even though I was using the biocide, surprisingly it seemed most of it was algae. I used straight auto antifreeze this time, just like I am using in the benching rig. I expect to get a lot more mileage from it (pun intended). I used Asian vehicle blue coolant because of the color and because it is best suited to dissimilar metal electrolysis mitigation. I certainly won't have to worry about "creatures" with the antifreeze, because nothing can live in it (AFAIK).

Thank you. I can easily see why this Z690 DDR4 option is so well liked. It is even on the short list of "most popular" at HWBOT. Second on the list, in fact. https://hwbot.org/hardware/motherboards I haven't had time to do any memory tuning yet. I am running 1003 (1/19/2022) and it boots my custom 4000 CL15-16-16-36 1T XMP profile I burned on these Ripjaws sticks with Thaiphoon Burner just fine. I was running these sticks at 4500 CL16 with the Dark mobo, so it should do at least that well with the 12th Gen memory controller. I already bricked it once while flashing the latest BIOS. After it finished writing to the chip, it turned off and never restarted, and I could not get it to power back on again. Very strange. Thankfully, the Crash Free BIOS 3 recovery worked. Using a mobo with only one BIOS chip is always kind of crappy. It's too bad it does not have a dual BIOS, power and reset buttons and Q-code LEDs. If it did it would be an absolutely perfect 12th Gen entry-level enthusiast board for DDR4. I think all gaming and enthusiast mobos (including laptops) should have a dual (or triple) BIOS configuration, as well as a crisis flash feature. Not having the latter should be against the law. It absolutely should not be a feature only found on gaming desktop mobos. Just one more reason laptops suck. I just spent more than an hour going through registry, Task Scheduler, ASUS folders and System32, Windows Services and temp folders manually taking ownership of and exorcising everything ASUS defecated or ejaculated (as in impregnated) into my OS. They are the masters of digital filth. I do not think they have any rival, which seems to be in direct emnity with the appeal their brand has with enthusiasts. If the replacement CPU from Amazon is also dud, I may keep the better of the two, buy a KS and sell the one I keep. Or, I may just blow it off and remind myself this is a work machine, not a benching rig. My plan was to put the best one in the benching beast and have the second best in the work rig, but I don't need a better binned CPU in the benching rig since I am starting to lose interest in the sport. It is too bad the E-cores are such bad samples, otherwise I would be content with the P-core SP rating. The P-core run 52x all core with the same voltage my SP92 12900K uses for 54x all core.

When retarded is allowed to run wild and free... well... look around. Not just the tech world, but it is easy to spot there, too. The world around us is off the rails by any and all measurements due to incompetent leadership and stupid and/or evil leaders in business and government. Depravity at work... unable to discern between right and wrong, good and bad, truth and lies, beauty and ugliness, light and darkness, left and right, smart and stupid.

Amazon could not replace/exchange the CPU only because it was a bundle, but they agreed to send me another bundle so I can return the old CPU along with the new unopened motherboard that comes as a replacement, but return only the old CPU (not my mobo). Hopefully, the next one will be a little better. The issue is low SP rating on the E-cores. The P-cores are not as good as the CPUs that Papusan and I have (same basic SP rating for both of us) but still decent at 92. The E-cores are 65, dragging the overall down to SP 84. I'd be content with one similar to the one I already have. The Strix Z690-A Gaming WiFi D4 is actually pretty decent. It's definitely not anything nearly as good as a Dark or Apex or Unify-X, but it's also no slouch. It is too bad that it is white (the only color available, apparently,) but it look silver. It does contrast nicely with the black 5000D.

You'll get there, brother. I know you will. Hopefully, something will happen soon to steer the ship from the black hole before we all get trapped in it.

I have made more than my fair share of stupid decisions, so you're not alone. 🙂 At least we learn what we should have done, even if it is too late to fix it. I think we are heading into some very scary days unless something drastic happens sooner than later. It is going to take a while to fix the current mess, even if we could stop the people causing it today and immediately began fixing the things they have screwed up. It really sucks that some of it is deliberate. That's seriously messed up.

I had heard of it before but never needed it on EVGA and it does not work with MSI Mystic. I actually tried using it on my Unify-X because their software is also UWP filth, but it doesn't work. So, instead of using the RGB/ARGB headers on the mobo I bought a cheap SATA-powered controller with a remote and bypassed the mobo. For me it is a set once to white light and forget it forever, or until the code it dumped from NVRAM, so I don't need the ability to do anything else. This is the first time I actually had an opportunity to use it.

This is SO MUCH better than Armoury Crate cancer feces. I can make all of the LEDs white without having to install performance-killing filth that is plagued with bugs. It is a portable replacement for Aura. It writes the color choices to NVRAM and survives a reboot. https://openrgb.org/ Armoury Crate is such a horrible piece of crap that some ASUS fanboys won't buy an ASUS mobo any more. I was on the verge of returning this for a refund because Armoury Crate is such a buggy and unstable piece of you-know-what. ASUS is retarded for making it a UWP digi-dung app. I will be putting the Z490 Dark, golden 10900K and bare die block up for sale here in the marketplace. I got quotes of $700-800 from people in the know, including @jaybee83 and @avacado (EHW and OC.net), but I will likely offer it here for less. The 12900K that was included in the bundle is a disappointing sample and strikes me as being very average. I have messaged Inland (Microcenter) on Amazon to ask them if they will exchage it for a better silicon sample.

Only a guess because I haven't really followed anything relating to laptops since 2015... it probably needs a BIOS mod to support the CPU released after the machine was made. 9900KS requires BIOS updates on desktops as well. Simply having a mobo that supports 9th Gen isn't enough and desktops need BIOS updates for 9900KS support. Same is true of 12900K versus KS.

At the end of the day we're all expendable and working for larger companies you are always more like a number than a human being. However, people who possess legitimate leadership skills know a quality employee when they see one and do whatever they can, within reason, to retain them. Unfortunately, good leaders are even harder to find than good individual contributors. There is a lot of truth in the old axiom, "People don't leave bad jobs; they leave bad bosses." It's almost a cliché to say that employees don’t leave companies, they leave bad bosses. Sadly, this happens all the time. A top talent asset will resign and in the exit interview it's confirmed that their manager was the root cause of their departure. In the same way that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it, companies that do not conduct exit interviews, and act on the intelligence, are doomed for failure.

It is unfortunate that people holding positions of authority behave in such a manner. They may be leaders in rank, but not character. Good organizations are often turned into bad ones, or even destroyed, by losers like that.

Sounds like severely mediocre overclocking and not much better than an experience owning a turdbook with a locked-down CPU. Pretty pathetic IMHO.

Please share some pictures with us when you have time.

I really need a vacation, too. Real bad. Maintenance of sanity does not apply to high performance computing. The opposite is preferrable. We want to be crazy, go nuts and see insanely high clock speeds, voltage, power consumption, and insanely low temperatures. The more insane those things become the happier we are (or should be). I'd love to see something like 25GHz at 3.500V and 1300W in Cinebench. Yes brother @ryan as long as contact between the CPU/GPU dies and heat sink cold plates is correct a liquid metal paste job should help.

I think a large percentage of the people buying laptops and desktop components are not very tech savvy. Most of them max out their skills installing drivers or running a Windows update. Many can't even manage that effectively. They need everything to be easy and extremely low skill, so in that respect I think reviews like these are demonstrative of their low skill as well as shortcomings of the products they purchased. They certainly aren't smart enough to identify the game they want to play is a buggy piece of trash. Suggesting they need to tune things or test a variety of drivers turns them inside-out. They just expect it to work. It's probably not an unrealistic expectation, notwithstanding the fact that their lack of knowledge and technical skill compounds the problem. In great part, I think this is one of the reasons why game consoles are so successful. Of course, another obvious reason is the cost of purchasing the console is a lot less than a competent gaming PC. (They don't count the high cost of console games and monthly subscription fees. They are apparently not very good at math either LOL.)

Reviews like this are very meaningful and drive fanboys crazy. They get swept under the rug and ignored, and you don't see the YouTube reviewers that get stuff sent to them for free making comments like this. I haven't posted a negative review of the 5950X as a verified purchaser, but I probably should. It certainly is. Extremely satisfying. Second only to miners that have multiple thousands of dollar of GPUs that are worth less than half what they paid for them and not being able to cover the cost of them due to the loss of value of the cryptocurrency. Could not have happened to a more deserving industry. I hope it gets worse. Yeah, still way too much money. I am glad my GPU has held its value, but it doesn't deserve to. I paid more for it than it was worth (stupid on my part). Unfortunately, I do not expect EVGA, ASUS or others may ever offer their components at a rock bottom price to customers that deserve to see those prices. They will probably sell whatever stock is left at a massive loss to a wholesaler rather than giving the benefit to customers. That is the messed up way that business works. Not just computer components, but other things as well, including cars. Dealers will auction off huge inventories of used cars and leftover new inventory at a loss representing a fraction of what they are worth to avoid giving an opportunity for the public to purchase them at or near the same price. That's really messed up.

Dang, huge price drop. Nice to see it. Hopefully, we will see it drop by another $300-$500 in a desperate move to eliminate 30-series stock before 40-series releases. I probably wouldn't be overly excited about buying a Gigabutt brand GPU, but I probably would grab an EVGA or ASUS 3090 Ti for $1000-1200 even though I don't really have any compelling reason to want one. It will also be interesting to see what kind of prices and availability we will see with 4090. I will be curious to see if supply is kept artificially lower than demand so they can make the prices fluffier than warranted.

LOL... uh... no... Literally every product I have owned that was made by AMD was garbage. I have zero confidence in their ability to produce quality products. Maybe I wouldn't be so dead set against them if I purchased low-end components and didn't care about overclocking. I don't care that an RX 6600 crushes a 3050. I wouldn't waste my money on either of those products. But, that said, the Ryzen 9 5950X was also an abortion and one of the worst purchase decisions I have made in a decade.