Mr. Fox

If Willy Wonka selects me for a golden ticket I will let you have it since I am not interested. This is the only model that has the silly drawing. The better models are not available, but I am not sure the "better" models are actually better. Looks like Buildzoid is finding basically that they are mostly all the same products with different coolers and sucker prices for those that still believe more expensive models are better.

I am not even looking to buy at this point. 5090 is a desirable GPU but the price is unacceptable and totally out of scope with any benefits it offers. I can't identify any tangible value in buying one at this point. Lots of things to mitch and boan about and they're easy to spot. I wouldn't pay $1500 for a 9950X or 14900KS even if it was a top 0.05% golden sample, so I'm not going to pay $2500 for a chance at spinning the roulette wheel on a 5090 that is clock-blocked on top of the silicon quality wildcard.

Win it as a gift? Yes, that would be great. Win the "privilege" to purchase... 😑

They are finding the bottom of the turdbook cess pool. There is no room for improvement because they are designed and built by idiots for idiots.

Hopefully this recent pattern is not a permanent trend because the past couple of product launches have left me uninterested in the overpriced trash I was being offered. I fully expect the 9070 XT to be an abject failure that is harmful to AMD on top of the overpriced lackluster dung NVIDIA is offering. Windows is more of a disaster than anyone could have ever imagined it would become, with nothing good that can be said other than it isn't crApple filth. Factor in the Core Ultra trash and the ongoing absence of choices in 2-DIMM motherboards and it is becoming abundantly crystal clear to me that the industry is run by dumbass crooks that are incompetent morons and the future of personal computing is bleak. Something that will only be enjoyable for the ignorant, one-click, tap and swipe, bottom-feeding monkeys of the world.

The part that remains unanswered is how much do I care. About this much > LOL People like us (you, me and others here) are very rare. Being honest has become very much a situational ethics problem for many people. True honesty and integrity are exceptional character traits that are no longer the norm. It wasn't that many years ago that the opposite was true. To the best of my ability I live by absolutes and avoid compromises or grading on a curve.

I think if there is evidence of shady activities from scalpers and foolishness like bots and private distribution of links to selected individuals in a situation like this it should be treated as a financial crime (a misdemeanor addressed in realtime at the source) and all of the identified offending orders cancelled with partial refunds minus a reasonable "handling fee" required and the wrongly purchased products put back into inventory and sold to someone not trying to cheat, scam or scalp. The partial refund would be a point of discouragement for those motivated by secondary gain. Secondary loss (refund minus withheld handling fees) is their punishment for wrongful acquisition and it compensates the retailer for addressing the problems that those dishonest "customers" created for them. I like how the Prime, TUF and Pro Art GPUs and other products look. Very understated and industrial, similar to EVGA Dark motherboards. I saw a new MSI GPU that followed the very muted industrial look as well, similar to the new Prime and TUF GPUs. (I don't remember what they named it. I did not make special note of it because I am not planning a GPU purchase.) KISS principle without rainbow puke and shiny plastic or flashy trim, LCD screens, etc. I also think MSI making the Suprim LEDs white by default and only requiring software garbage if you want something different is a step in the right direction. Having rainbow puke as the default is disgusting. White static LED should be the firmware default for all RGB products.

Looks like some of the less expensive 5080 and 5090 might have molded plastic backplates on them. Hard to tell for certain looking at stock photos, might just be CGI, but I've seen a couple of them that are looking pretty chintzy.

No, these are listed as new, not refurbished. Most of the refurbished are "out of stock" and that is what is puzzling. Where were all of these brand new GPUs that magically appeared but were nowhere to be found before the 50-series paper-launched? Being held in a warehouse to keep demand and prices artificially inflated? Mysterious appearance of new stock of obsolete GPUs for sale at massively inflated prices (greater than NVIDIA 50-series paper launch prices) has collusion and extortion written all over it.

It's interesting that NewEgg had no 3090 Ti in stock and now suddenly tons of stock for sale at 5090 prices, and 4090 priced at $1,000 or more greater than 5090 prices. And, 7900 XTX for 5080 prices. *sigh* people buying GPUs at these prices are being sodomized. Selling what you already own, if it is decent, is not a very smart idea right now. Oh well... it's all gonna burn. Now, where did I put my gas can and matches. Drop your drawers and spread 'em, kids. Hope you bought some lubricant. This video is not actually about 5080. It's a look at how we have been strategically and methodically screwed. NVIDIA ain't the only one. It's the new way of the industry.

It's true. Can't fix stupid. Stupid+money is next-level idiocy. It's only an extra $1,000 per GPU, so what's the big deal? They have credit cards to make it affordable. Never mind the 29.5% APR. Defaulting on their payment agreement is sticking it to the man. Finding acceptance among their friends on Facepoot and TikTwat is priceless and gives their lives meaning.

He (dom) is from Norway. He is indeed on overclock.net and HWbot.org. He received a pre-release X870E Apex from ASUS. https://hwbot.org/user/domdtxdissar/

LOL, I know, right? I only see a "Notify Me" link at the MSI Store page, no preorder, so maybe @win32asmguy can let you know how and where he did that. It may have been on the B&H Photo site rather than MSI. Knock it off, bro. I don't need that kind of bad influence. 🤣 I'm doing my best to keep a clear head. That's like talking about a love of liquor in the presence of a recovering alcoholic. I've talked myself out of it already, but temptation sucks.

I have no doubt as to the likelihood of some of the pallets mysteriously disappearing before they reached their final destinations. A lot probably disappeared before they got out of China. This is how many scalpers and criminal crypto mining operations get their inventory and it is usually an inside job somewhere along the path. I have been involved with claims on entire truckloads and shipping containers full of GPUs and other types of computers and electronics components being stolen.

It might be smart to just ride it a bit and not try too hard to grab a 5090 and see what actually plays out as 5090s begin to trickle into the hands of people that know how to use them. You know how the hype train tends to work. The YouTube circus usually swings back and forth between fanboys and haters and we don't know what is for real until real people get ahold of products we wonder about. I expect more people will soon figure out that paying bucks for no benefit is dumb and the value of used 4090s will plummet with the better-built versions of 5080 going for around $1200 or an FE for $999. While it is not the flagship, I think 5080 is actually priced to value in today's grossly inflated market. It is priced exactly where a 4090 should have been priced. First time in a very long time I have been able to identify a priced-to-value PC component. 5080 pricing is like an ice pick to the testicles of everyone that purchased a 4090 at or near its intended MSRP and like something worse for anyone that paid more. The 5090 would only be a good value if it were priced to match the intended 4090 MSRP. I think it is overvalued by around $1000 to be honest. It's sad that people are scrambling to pay that and allow them to get away with it, but that happens all the time. People are always eager to overpay for things they want because desire and passion always trump good sense. I am guilty of it and most of us here are, but I think I might have found the bottom to my tolerance in terms of volunteering as a victim for price gouging.

The only logical reason I would have to do it is to profit on the sale and have a nice chunk of extra money left over after purchasing the 5080. It would be of no functional benefit. But, that's a better idea (to me) than buying a 5090. 4090 is a better GPU than 5080, but they are close enough to the same performance that it wouldn't matter. I may actually consider doing that as long as I don't have to resort to selling it on eBag. I'd only offer it for sale in our marketplace here or at overclock.net.

Maybe I will sell my Gigabutt 4090 and buy a 5080 and use the leftover cash to buy gold and silver. At going rates I could probably sell it for $2,000 to a moron. There seems to be no shortage of them.

He is definitely a legend in his own mind. Here is a pictorial representation of abject stupidity in terms of pricing. Ridiculous.

He is rarely able to see things from another perspective. While he is often correct, he tends to be myopic.

It may have also been an issue with the monitoring hardware he was using showing erroneous data since it wasn't even released yet. MSI Afterburner and HWiNFO64 may not be getting accurate data or interpreting it incorrectly. Hard to know for sure. ASUS may have sent him a wonky GPU sample, too.

I only grabbed the screenshot and never made an effort to add it to cart since I had no intention of purchasing it and don't want to add to anyone else's frustration that is trying to. I cannot remember the last time I purchased something at Best Buy, in-store or online. As a general rule they do not sell PC products that I am interested in purchasing, and in the rare circumstance they do it is never in stock. I do not "dislike" Best Buy, but it never seems to work out that they are an option for me for the reasons mentioned above.

There are going to be lots of unhappy GPU shoppers. Local BB only has the least-desirable 5080 available, all others sold out and all of the 5090 show sold out. Looking at the stock at Microcenters being so low, it's probably accurate. I bet they had fewer than 5 at any store. I would not buy the FE even if I wanted a 5080/5090. Very undesirable design.

It's really insane. Great for those that bought one and don't want to take a loss at resale. But, really very bad for everyone else in the world. Anyone that sold a 4090 to help offset the cost of a 5090 probably would not be able to replace their 4090 without paying more if they changed their mind about 5090.

Don't sell your 4090 for less than what you paid for it new +10%. Or, don't even sell it. @electrosoft in 20/20 hindsight do you wish you had not sold your 4090?

I'm definitely not planning on buying a 5090. There is just no value whatsoever in it at the current pricing. I think this is also going to keep the used resale prices of desirable 30- and 40-series GPUs at or above their original new price as they currently are. Very bad days to be a PC enthusiast of any kind. If I had to buy a new GPU the only one that makes a lick of sense based on price is 5080. That is more or less the functional equivalent of buying a rebranded 4090 with less VRAM for $1000-$1250 (excluding the A$$zeus priced-for-idiots options). Paying roughly double for 5090 while getting a 20-25% performance gain, at best, just isn't worth considering. I'm glad I have two 4090s and aa 3090 Ti. No need to do anything. This industry needs a hard reset on everything. The entire PC overclocking enthusiast/PC gamer realm has pretty much just turned into a gigantic clown show with grossly overvalued parts that are mostly sucky trash when you pull back the curtain. Looking at stock photos of 50-series GPUs online, a whole lot of ithem even look pretty chintzy. The joke is on consumer more than ever before.