Mr. Fox

I believe none of the 4060 GPUs are X16. I can vaguely remember that they are all X8, maybe 4070 as well. I did not pay close attention to that because I do not consider anything below a 4080 to be a relevant product. The Green Goblin deliberately crippled all of the reasonably priced products more than the crippled but still-expensive overpriced products. Edit: that seems to be correct. 4060 and 4060Ti. Yes, all Nvidia RTX 4060 graphics cards are limited to a PCIe x8 interface

If your Z890 motherboard has that new crappy PCIe connector clamp abortion instead of the release button, also check the PCIe edge connector on the GPU to make sure the new A$$zeus invention did not damage the gold contact fingers.

It is the Z890 Apex and the Core Ultra system? 4090? Are you using the latest GeFarts drivers? I've heard not-so-great things about the new driver with 50-series support. What if you disable the WiFi/BT module in the BIOS? Any change? Lots of X870E owners are having really goofy problems with the latest Windows Updates and drivers, especially with WiFi/BT modules causing undesirable things. I always disable WiFi/BT in the BIOS and have not experienced any of that silly stuff myself.

Power-crippled and thermally-limited, throttling box o' poop.

I think there is nothing that would ever make any laptop appealing to me ever again. They are all universally disgusting to me. Even if they all went back to MXM, thick and heavy all-metal chassis, 18-20 inch screens and desktop CPUs and 1000W PSUs they require too many compromises that I am unwilling to accept. That's a chapter of life where I have closed the book, wrapped it up in duct tape, thrown into the incinerator and flushed the ashes down the toilet.

Or the "Origami Edition" since it seems like a paper launch. I do not see any 50-series GPUs in stock on NewEgg. They must have sold all 4 of them already. Looks like you can still buy a 4090 for twice the normal price, or a 4080 for the price of a correctly valued 4090. Good times for the dishonest sellers that find stupid buyers. 🤣 Probably moreso dishonest distributors and retailers sharing hidden links and secret sales to select individual to buy up stock a few hours or minutes prior to launch. And, those are 111 reported sales. There could well be more sales on the down-low that have been conveniently omitted because they were shady deals to support scalpers.

AI used by IRS inappropriately.

3090 did not have it

My 3090 Ti also has it in NVCP, but HWBOT does not require it for that GPU. @Papusan maybe it would be too difficult for 5090 to distance itself enough from 4090 to justify the cost so the memory crippling option (ECC) was removed.

It will be fine. TSMC might not be intimidated by Trump's threat promise but they will be intimidated by a lack of adequate capital. China doesn't even care about its own people, but once their 1% filthy rich elite figure out their lifestyles cannot be maintained without US consumers buying their crap they'll fall in line just as Canada, Mexico and other South American countries did. As soon as they figured out what was going to happen was more than idle threats they accepted the terms set before them because survival matters. Trump means business and they can either fall in line or face new and worsening hardships. China is a third-world country ruled by a small group of despots with a pride issue and sometimes it takes a minute for reality to sink in and the pain begins exacting its vengeance. They only have what has been given to them and what they have stolen from other nations with the help of wicked rulers. The rich love money and sometimes it takes a sudden lack of it before they will pay attention. Remember we are talking about more than expensive high-end computer parts. We're talking about everything. For example, if it becomes too expensive for Apple and other American-owned companies to continue manufacturing in China and move out their operations, they'll lose that source of revenue on top of losing access to the iPhones they are addicted to as a nation. US gamers and other silicon trash junkies also need to get their priorities sorted. Winning battles doesn't mean anything if you lose the war.

Everything was rushed and premature, with not enough time for R&D or QC. And now it shows. PC world has never been more sucky for early adoption guinea pigs. Paying high prices for the privilege of being a crash test dummy instead of being paid to be one isn't a nice thing.

I could totally survive with the Strix 1080 that I recent bought on the cheap as a backup solution for unplanned contingencies. The 3060 I had before was also totally OK for most purposes. So was the Arc GPU. All very decent products and currently priced to value, but not exceptionally desirable or impressive by current standards. The problem is first-world... I don't want to. 🤣 I'm also generally less optimistic about things going according to my plans when I am not totally in control of everything. I am always confident in myself, but very rarely confident in others making decisions or doing things that I approve of. Usually something close to opposite of intelligent is what ends up occurring. Trusting others to do the right thing is always difficult for me when I do not control the process and the people. My luck being what it is, if I sold my used Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC for $2500+ I would never find a 5090 model I wanted for less than $3000 or $3500. So, I tend to take the safer "bird in the hand is worth two in the bush" approach.

null It looks like they did make some intelligent changes that were needed for a very long time. Perhaps the negative Gamer's Nexus video(s) helped them pull their heads out of their bottoms. The 360 AIO, standard PSU and standard ATX (non-proprietary) form factor motherboards would allow a person to replace parts or upgrade without problems instead of having a big box filled with worthless e-waste. I don't take that to mean that there is hope for the Alienware brand, but it does leave some room for hope for their victims that made tragic buying choices. While I believe in calling balls and strikes and being unapologetically brutal when criticism is due, I also believe that good decisions deserve to be acknowledged. If you want more good decisions to follow, you almost have to. Admitting when something is done right doesn't mean you think the product is good or desirable overall. From 5:37 "Final Product" segment...

I've actually considered selling my Gigabyte 4090 for a good bit more than what I paid for it new and replacing it with another 3090 Ti but the problem I am seeing is that ALL video cards are either not desirable, not available, extremely/absurdly overpriced or all of the above. I literally could not buy any GPU that I consider desirable for an acceptable price right now. The only GPUs available for acceptable prices are the obsolete weaker crap nobody wants. Those were garbage on their launch day, and the reason they are still available is that nobody smart wanted them. Why would I pay more than MSRP of a 5090 for a 3090? That would require an extraordinary degree of stupidty, but the people with more money (or credit cards) than common sense are real. The logic isn't there. That would be like selling your house for a massive profit knowng that you could not replace your home with something equivalent for less, or better with the profit earned on the sale, and you would ultimately end up losing money unless you moved to a new place where the housing values were substantially lower. Only then would there be an intelligent path forward. If you planned to stay in the same neighborhood or town you'd ultimately be an idiot for selling something that could not be replaced.

If we were going to try to find just one nice thing to say it would be this new model is not nearly as insanely ugly as almost all of the recent Alienware turdboxes have been since the introduction of the Dorito torilla chip shaped eyesore forward. At least this one somewhat resembles (aesthetically) what a normal person would appreciate. It's by no means a "beautiful" machine, but at least it's not as ugly and goofy-looking as usual. Do I want one and would I buy one? Of course not. But, it doesn't make me feel as compelled to ridicule it based solely on how ridiculously ugly it looks.

So if you subract the $1,000 GPU it leaves $3,449.99 accounting for all of the proprietary, under-built, performance-limited, inferior proprietary e-waste trash that goes into every other part of the build.

Probably will be a couple of months, maybe three, before anyone can purchase a 5090, which probably will result in even greater overpricing and scalping behavior.

No, nothing. All 5 of them probably went to those whose names were added earlier. But, at least you won't have to worry about it being DOA or bricked by drivers. That would be such a terrible experience. (I remember when my 4090 Suprim Liquid X died after only a few days of use for no understandable reason. That was not a good day.)

Probably a good idea for nobody to install updated GeForce drivers on any system (regardless of GPU) until this blows over. Whatever goofed up those 50-series cards might have some unexpected results with older GPUs that have not been noticed yet. NVIDIA is able to update firmware through their drivers. I wonder if maybe that is what killed those reported to have been bricked. It would also be interesting to know if any of them are on systems using GPU riser cables instead of the GPU getting connected directly to the PCIe slot. I know that if you install a PCIe 4.0 GPU into a PCIe 3.0 riser cable the GPU will not work. I encountered that specific problem once, I think with 3090. I would expect similar issues with PCIe 5.0.

Fits comments on the previous page in relation to Roman's video about it being rushed to market with too little testing and validation. Imagine how frustrated those poor people must feel right now after spending gobs of money on a GPU that was hard to source and may be difficult to get replaced under warranty/RMA in a timely manner. Hopefully most of them haven't sold their old GPU already. Looks like @jaybee83 and @tps3443 may have dodged a bullet. Once it becomes available in sufficient quantity to purchase maybe they will have had time to work the kinks out.

They do not calculate that number correctly. They do not count everyone that should be counted. Those receiving welfare that are capable and could work if they actually had to are not calculated. The unemployment rate is always higher than the number they publish. Things have been swiftly moving in the wrong direction under the rule of the insane. Slowing the decline or going 180° the opposite (right) way will only help.

We have plenty of workers but some of them don't work. They're going to have to. And while we are taking the right steps on illegal alien squatter criminal trespassing, the legal guest worker program is alive and well, and will be expanded. They already do the work here that the unemployed are unwilling to do and will continue to do so.

I am not too worried about it. And, it's not everything that will cost more. Only the garbage that is being outsourced to China to take advantage of cheap (slave-level) labor. When American companies find it more cost-effect to not outsource anything that will help in other ways as well. It will strengthen our economy and weaken the economies we no longer outsource to. The threat of tariffs and sanctions has already eliminated resistance from some countries that wanted to resist cooperation. It's a powerful tool and I am glad it is being utilized. There are other changes coming that will offset the tariffs and I think in the grand scheme of things America will be much better off. It is my opinion that anything we can do to make prospering difficult for China is the right thing to do. The days of them screwing the rest of the world need to be over. I already pay less in Federal Income taxes after the last Trump administration and I expect to pay less once his changes are in play. The only time ever in my life that I had to pay extra taxes when filing was when Obama was President. Trump lixed that immediately, and thankfully Biden didn't screw that up. His second term was interrupted before he could finish making things right. If Trump makes the changes he says he is going to (and he has always done what he said he would except for when the left blocked him) and is not stonewalled by the pork-drunk, wasteful Robin Hood establishment, when I retire my social security benefits will be non-taxable and my retirement nest eggs will be taxed less or not at all. I'm good with paying more for non-essential toys and keeping more of my hard-earned money. He has not even held office for a month and he is already shaving massive waste off of the psychotic government pork barrel with more wasteful cuts soon to follow. The establishment is about to have an aneurysm over their special interest programs that benefit a small percentage of the nation (many unpopular with the vast majority of citizens) eliminated. Long overdue, and Elon is helping. Trump and Musk obviously know how to manage money. Anyone who doesn't think so has their head buried in the sand. When I worked in Oregon (almost as liberal as California) the Oregonians liked to brag about not having sales tax, but their income tax was higher than sales tax in Washington. (I lived in Washington part of the time, which is also very liberal, just not as bad.) When I moved my job out of Oregon and no longer owed state income tax it was like having a 9% pay raise with the same salary. I only had to pay sales tax on taxable goods, which was a small percentage of my monthly living expenses. TL;DR - it will work out better overall, and if it reduces or impairs China's world influence and diminishes their prosperity you count me in yesterday.