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  1. electrosoft
    That looks beautiful bro! Looking forward to the results. @win32asmguy Any updates on your NH55?
  2. electrosoft
    Yeah, Prema on the KM is basically done. Too many issues. @Sydneyblue so you sold your KM to turn around and build an 11th gen rig vs 12th gen?
  3. electrosoft
    I'll have to add a tube to my collection for testing when available. Looks promising.
  4. electrosoft
    Looking at the design it is a solid, massive copper heatsink that happens to have a water cooling flow system imbedded in it so it looks like it provides solid cooling (especially the CPU) and when you add water cooling at your discretion through the connects it just enhances it more. My P870TM was a monster and I loved it. That VC for the GPU(s) was nice but the CPU heatsink was still a standard one that was decently beefy. Yikes on the thermal pads. That can definitely compromise pairing pressure. As for the ram, unless the modded bios sent sky high voltage through your ram, it wasn't the xmp timings.
  5. electrosoft
    I didn't even push it lol as I was testing baselines at stock for cooling going back and forth to compare data versus the desktop then other work stepped in. On the desktop, as you saw in the X170 forum, it was right there with my SL as both did 5.3 desktop all core no problem CB23 loop and blew the ZtecPC binned CPU out the water (which in turn leveled the other two off the shelf randos).
  6. electrosoft
    It makes you wonder why they would regress from such a nice, beefy heatsink in the 15.6" AMD DTR to what was the final product for ADL? Even 12600's can run hot in there.
  7. electrosoft
    I haven't found someone who tested it in both standard and water cooled version yet. They are priced cheaply on Aliexpress now though so I've been mulling over ordering one to see. https://www.aliexpress.com/item/3256802893647618.html?pdp_npi=2%40dis!USD!US %2436.00!US %2428.80!!!!!%4021031a5516542938709864495efa22!12000025851981212!sh&spm=a2g0o.store_pc_home.productList_2002555959075.pic_0 Ah, ok. I use Phobya too but I think I'm going to pop the LTX back in since it is already delidded with the Nickel plated BartX IHS and run it a few days with Phobya again and then a few days with LM and a foam perimeter to note the differences. My heatsink was already previously used in a LM mount from Ztec so it is well soaked as is. I just ordered a more precise, lower range torque screw driver too recommended by a few fellow Pi robots buddies I collab with who use it for all their precision assemblies for a better price (rebrand of many other models): https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09YXYHVFS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1#customerReviews to really dial it in. I might just stick with the LTX depending on results and sell the SL since the SL is in pristine condition (never delidded) with original box, SL paperwork, etc. I only want to hold onto one of them and the LTX was close enough. Basically, whichever one sells I'll keep the other.
  8. electrosoft
    True, I found this out early on. Basically eating your own chow. The blessing and the curse of using your own screws is you don't need shims or taller IHS's. The curse is of course dialing in the optimal amount of torque. Get a manual (or powered) screw driver with torque settings. Dial in the optimal settings for your unit for maximum pairing pressure: https://www.amazon.com/CDI-61NSM-Torque-Micro-Adjustable-centinewton/dp/B000JXPF12/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1 @Clamibot are you running standard TIM or LM on your CPU?
  9. electrosoft
    I like they gave the CPU a full 4 post mounting but even looking at their past 15.6" designs for desktop CPUs for both Intel and AMD I have no idea how this was their final boss heatsink especially looking at that early prototype. Here's hoping Aliexpress has a good aftermarket design like those that have shown up for the X170, P870 and P77X series.
  10. electrosoft
    BGA issues aside.... My issue is looking at the prototype for this at the trade show versus the final product is a slap in the face in regards to the heatsink. The original heatsink shown was much beefier for the CPU. Whoever decided to go from this: To this: Needs to be evaluated.....unless it is a bean counter then we know why. Who in their right mind evaluated the 12th gen performance and heat generation and decided this was an acceptable solution is mind boggling.
  11. electrosoft
    VMD is a bane when trying to clean install new BGA laptops from Acer too. Their pre-installs come with it enabled but as soon as you nuke the drive it disappears except in the BIOS. You have to disable it there too.
  12. electrosoft
    So are the bulk of you happy or sad about the AVX512 being disabled? I'm indifferent as it didn't make or break my leisure or workflow 🤷‍♀️
  13. electrosoft
    Very nice bro! Definitely post all the juicy stuff! 😁
  14. electrosoft
    AMD looks like it is coming in guns ablazing and while Intel will retain the single core performance crown, AMD will win at everything else. What is the logic behind fusing off AVX512?
  15. electrosoft
    2. Yep. 4. Glad the info helped out!
  16. electrosoft
    Price: *** SOLD *** Condition: Used Warranty: None Reason for sale: Too many 10900k's, Many other toys to buy Payment: PayPal (non-cc) , F2F, trade Item location: Southern NJ Shipping: USPS International shipping: To known former NBR users Handling time: 3 days Feedback: https://www.ebay.com/fdbk/feedback_profile/electrosoft Specification: LTX Golden Sample (1 of 200) that has been delidded and re-lidded and ready to rock. Asus rates this as an SP96. There is one discolored contact pin on the bottom that does not affect performance. Relidded w/ liquid metal on 7/15/2022 and a 10 min CB23 stress run pictured 7/18/2022 showing those sweet, sweet temps under that pull. Tested on an MSI Z590 w/ EVGA 360mm CLC and Gelid Extreme. Price includes USPS Priority shipping CONUS Proof of ownership:
  17. electrosoft
    Or a cherry picked unit was sent his way.
  18. electrosoft
    MSI's version of the 12950HX hitting 24140 @ ~160w / 95c -50uv in MSI BIOS out of the box in CB23:
  19. electrosoft
    So how goes the comparison with the NH55 vs the Scar? Leaning one way or the other yet? I suspect the Scar cost much more but the one stand out feature I do like is the 17.3" display. I wish they offered a version with the full fat HX but 3060 at a much reduced cost. Any side by side pics?
  20. electrosoft
    Welcome! 1. It has definitely been fixed and improved. You have to exert a little bit of force to get them to come out now. 2.780w will work but some of the old reports on the old forums said it had a not so great design and was a bit on the dirty side. 3. Problems with running 4 sticks at 3200 is a common problem. Locked down BIOS is another. 4. 12th gen Clevo is a 15.6" model for desktop CPU supported laptop here: Apparently the 17.3" X270 is BGA across the board. 5. Prema was supposed to be in the works but it looks like it is DOA due to many issues with the system implementing it. Prema is available on select X170SM-G models.
  21. electrosoft
    To add to this, here is what it looks like when you pull the heatsink off after a K5 application. This is before clean up and with a LTX Golden 10900k with a BartX nickel plated IHS installed. It is a wash what sticks to what either the heatsink or the system but like I said before clean up is pretty quick with a TIM spreader.
  22. electrosoft
    If I know I'm doing temp test mounts when testing various CPU stuff on my X170SM-G I will leave the K5 Pro as is, but when it is my final remount I will use a thermal paste applicator and clean up the surrounding squeeze out and reapply it. Takes about 10 min tops.
  23. electrosoft
    17400 is definitely with e-cores off as in an earlier post he said he got 23400 at full tilt. It definitely is a touch better than the NH55 atm but it is using slightly higher power limits and on paper and visual inspection has a much better cooling system so we will see what happens as tweaks are made. There is also the random luck of silicon too which can't be user addressable on BGA laptops.
  24. electrosoft
    I'm lean more towards real application testing like the software you're using now. Have you tested your software on a well cooled desktop vs Prime95? On a laptop it could be a case of Prime95 forcing a more brutal sustained throttle scenario via a combination of heat or pull (or both) vs your software giving the impression your software is hitting it harder and hotter when in actuality it is not. I've seen this happen before as Prime95 overwhelms a laptop. What is the name of your software? Which Clevo do you use?
  25. electrosoft
    WTH............. That is an insult to the Xx70 line if that is their successor.....
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