*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[tps3443]

2 hours ago, johnksss said:

Lets see...All my money back minus the cost of warranty or ebay/offerup/craigslist/facebook market place/forum stores - where the best I can hope for is half at the current market rate then have to pay fees...hummmmm. Yeah I'll pass on that. lol

 

The warranty is so you pay a bulk price once...then every time after that you pay the upgrade cost. And in some cases there is no cost at all and you get change.

 

But! You will need to make sure your microcenter operates like that. 

 

Edit: And that can be all my money I paid today back in just under two years time. pretty sure no one is going to pay you 2k for a 2 year old card....

I’m about to buy a $4,699 dollar BGA turdbook, and I’m getting the warranty lol. I think it’s like $500? But, I have to be in store to get the warranty. Worth the near 4 hour drive. I plan to do what you’re doing. I’d rather not throw 50-60% of the $4700 in the trash. 
 

Also, is that the 1 or 2yr accidental damage protection plan they sell? 
 

@johnksss which warranty plan is it? 

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, johnksss said:

Thanks.

 

Ummm, that is a whole lot of explaining about paying more for a card. 😆😆

I did none of that when I bought my Kingpin 3090. The price is what it is when paying for top of the heap cards. And the cheapest one of those cards out here is 3500.00 and the price I quoted was 2500 from tweaktown. So looks like you still got out cheaper.🤣

Side note: I paid just under 9 grand for 4 Titan X's back in the day. And drove to Vegas to pick them up.🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

HeHe. Yep, its what it is. And the deal is quite good compared to what you get in many other countries or what I normally have to pay here home. On level what some of you have to pay for the Strix OC in US without the taxes🙂 

 

What I mostly complain about is the awful 25% tax + the added exchange currency who drive the prices up +30% over what you have to pay in US. Not so sure bro Fox or you would be happy with +2700$ over already disgusting $2,162... Who is already awful vs the 4090FE's  at $1599 MSRP. And this for a Strix OC card, not a K|ngp|n card. Just a vanilla Asus card with the OC branding. Yep bro John, it's what it is🙂 And I accepted it when I paid for it.

 

 4x 4090 Strix OC with taxes here is $10800. Or slightly below the 4 Titan X's you paid back in the day with US prices. Aka $8648 included last years inflation (+7%). That's damn cheap for 4x 4090 cards, LOOL 

 

If Nvidia continue the nice price shrinkage they have done from the Titans X age we will see 4x 5090 Strix OC at $8000 included inflation, HaHa

 

+reps my friend😎

 

 

 

Btw. Prices for 4000 series cards, especially the 4080 is equal awful as this 7900X3D "gamer" chips... 17:10 - Conclusion

 

 

LOOL 22:54

 

[tps3443]

@Mr. Fox

 

So, I found the issue with the low numbers in 3Dmark Physics and Profile test. It is the Windows power plan that’s causing problems! I put my power mode to balanced and it’s screaming fast!! I know, this doesn’t make sense but I heard this from someone else too. High performance power mode consistently performs poorly.
 

 I am #9 in the top 100 Profile test of 13900K, I am #5 with 13900KF, and #9 against 13900KS chips. 

 

just getting in the groove here. I haven’t began to get in to condensation territory yet. 
 

https://www.3dmark.com/cpu/1087450

[johnksss]

2 hours ago, tps3443 said:

I’m about to buy a $4,699 dollar BGA turdbook, and I’m getting the warranty lol. I think it’s like $500? But, I have to be in store to get the warranty. Worth the near 4 hour drive. I plan to do what you’re doing. I’d rather not throw 50-60% of the $4700 in the trash. 
 

Also, is that the 1 or 2yr accidental damage protection plan they sell? 
 

@johnksss which warranty plan is it? 

I don't think it works like that for laptops. And these warranties vary from store to store. Ohio store is a hell no! Unless there is something wrong with the product, then that store will honor the warranty. Our particular store said they know the game and are cool with it. How do I know? Because I flat out asked the General Manager of our store. And it's still the same business model after they revamped the store with new people. At some point it may change, but as of right now, nope.

 

We do have a 2 year warranty on my nieces laptop which is up around Christmas of this year so some where near that time I will ask what does our warranty cover if the laptop still works, but it's a repair or replace warranty. And it's BGA. No telling they have the exact same MB at the end of 2 years. That warranty was 300.00.

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

HeHe. Yep, its what it is. And the deal is quite good compared to what you get in many other countries or what I normally have to pay here home. On level what some of you have to pay for the Strix OC in US without the taxes🙂 

 

What I mostly complain about is the awful 25% tax + the added exchange currency who drive the prices up +30% over what you have to pay in US. Not so sure bro Fox or you would be happy with +2700$ over already disgusting $2,162... Who is already awful vs the 4090FE's  at $1599 MSRP. And this for a Strix OC card, not a K|ngp|n card. Just a vanilla Asus card with the OC branding. Yep bro John, it's what it is🙂 And I accepted it when I paid for it.

 

 4x 4090 Strix OC with taxes here is $10800. Or slightly below the 4 Titan X's you paid back in the day with US prices. Aka $8648 included last years inflation (+7%). That's damn cheap for 4x 4090 cards, LOOL 

 

If Nvidia continue the nice price shrink they have done from the Titans X age we will see 4x 5090 Strix OC at $8000 included inflation, HaHa

 

+reps my friend😎

 

 

 

Btw. Prices for 4000 series cards, especially the 4080 is equal awful as this 7900X3D "gamer" chips... 17:10 - Conclusion

 

 

 

LOOL 22:54

 

Those days have been over for the over clocker so no worries about buying 4 at a time anymore. Miners do not count. As I'm not a miner.🙂

 

Actually you can thank the internet for that. If it didn't exist then you would have no clue what we pay for out here and and vice versa and all would be happy and content.🤣 And if we were use to paying the 2700 price then it would not be any different. We either pay to play or we don't play. And we have our own issues as a country that you don't have to worry about. so there is always that.🙂

[johnksss]

@Mr. Fox

My new to me ride.

That's who I bought it from.

 

The other one...

[Mr. Fox]

7 hours ago, johnksss said:

@Mr. Fox

My new to me ride.

That's who I bought it from.

That is a fine set of wheels, bro. Bummer the other one got totaled out, but looks like a worthy replacement. 

[johnksss]

51 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

That is a fine set of wheel, bro. Bummer the other one got totaled out, but looks like a worthy replacement. 

Most definitely a worthy replacement!

Still not ringing any bells...

 

What about now?

[johnksss]

I forget, you may not watch any of his movies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Weathers

[Mr. Fox]

38 minutes ago, johnksss said:

I forget, you may not watch any of his movies.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Weathers

I thought he looked familiar in the first picture, but did not know why I thought so. Of course, he is a lot older now, just as we all are. I didn't connect the dots until you posted the additional photos. I have seen and enjoyed the majority of his movies. Very cool that you bought it from Carl. You definitely live in the right place to rub elbows with celebrities.

[Etern4l]

7 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

What programs do you all recommend for memory testing? I've never really messed with RAM at all, but @Custom90gtsold me his sticks and I'd like to make sure they have no errors at the speeds I'm using them at now.

 

If the goal is 100% stability, Memtest86 in parallel mode over several hours may not catch everything. I have found Google GSAT effective but again needs to be run over very long periods. 

[Papusan]

No time for this now but good news for the old. Almost all of the nvidias AIB partners give a rat in their older graphics cards. And Maxwell have still driver support. 

 

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, johnksss said:

@Mr. Fox

My new to me ride.

That's who I bought it from.

 

The other one...

 

2 hours ago, johnksss said:

Most definitely a worthy replacement!

Still not ringing any bells...

 

What about now?

 

OMG, I saw the first set of pics and I immediately thought, "Johnksss looks a hell of a lot like Carl Weathers!"

 

🤣

[Mr. Fox]

5 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

OMG, I saw the first set of pics and I immediately thought, "Johnksss looks a hell of a lot like Carl Weathers!"

 

🤣

@johnksss is younger and more dashing than Carl. But, Carl looks good for his age.

[Custom90gt]

11 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

What programs do you all recommend for memory testing? I've never really messed with RAM at all, but @Custom90gtsold me his sticks and I'd like to make sure they have no errors at the speeds I'm using them at now.

 

The new Passmark memtest is what I use now:

https://www.memtest86.com/downloads/memtest86-usb.zip

[Mr. Fox]

14 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

What programs do you all recommend for memory testing? I've never really messed with RAM at all, but @Custom90gtsold me his sticks and I'd like to make sure they have no errors at the speeds I'm using them at now.

All good suggestions have been made. Memtest86 and Windows Memory Diagnostic work well. I have issues with the native Windows memory tool trying to constantly launch in Windows and showing a system tray icon after running it through a cycle. It's very annoying and sometimes I have to try a few times to get rid of it. I have tried disabling it in Task Scheduler which only works about half the time and I have gone as far as renaming the executable file to stop it.

 

TM5 is super convenient. I also like using Run Memtest86 Pro from DangWang. Both of these are wonderful because they run within Windows. You can use them for testing live memory timings tweaks without a bunch of time wasting reboots. Once you get the custom settings dialed in, you can reboot once and go into the BIOS to apply them for final testing. There's another one I have that runs in Windows that also works well, but I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head. I'll have to find it and come back and mention it. I haven't used that one in a while. I always forget that I have it until someone posts something mentioning it in a forum and then I'm like 'oh yeah, I have that' LOL.

 

I have found pretty much all of them work fine for me.

 

Edit: @Tenoroonthe one I always forget about that works well is https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/ and it runs in Windows.

  

7 hours ago, Papusan said:

No time for this now but good news for the old. Almost all of the nvidias AIB partners give a rat in their older graphics cards. And Maxwell have still driver support. 

 

The caring ends as soon as there is something new to sell. Business runs on money. They too easily forget that money comes from the people that buy the products businesses sell. The problem is they love the money, not the people they get it from. Pretty messed up, but that's the way the ball bounces.

 

Once in a great while we see an exception to that, and those companies are usually very successful. They operate based on The Golden Rule. They are few and far between, unfortunately.

 

Pretending it is true it's fairly common though. You can easily spot the liars because actions speak louder than words... ASUS.
 

Edited March 3, 2023 by Mr. Fox
added https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/ info

[Mr. Fox]

Great news, Brother @Papusan! Looky here... you can get bling bling for your crocs now!

Hurry, before they are all gone. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWTHRRW4

[electrosoft]

8 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

@johnksss is younger and more dashing than Carl. But, Carl looks good for his age.

 

That's a great picture of you two benching it out! 🙂

 

 

[tps3443]

22 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

That's a great picture of you two benching it out! 🙂

 

 

Looks like a OG MSI Gaming X! Based on picture quality. That’s probably like a 980Ti maybe? 
 

@johnksss

 

what kind of Mercedes is that? I always wanted one of the older 2004ish Mercedes AMG models with that supercharger and 550hp. Such great cars. 

[johnksss]

10 minutes ago, tps3443 said:

Looks like a OG MSI Gaming X! Based on picture quality. That’s probably like a 980Ti maybe? 
 

@johnksss

 

what kind of Mercedes is that? I always wanted one of the older 2004ish Mercedes AMG models with that supercharger and 550hp. Such great cars. 

Not sure, I think 1080 or 1080 Ti's.

 

That one is an S550. The one I had before was a S430. I looked at a few S63's and S600's but they all had engine and transmission issues, but the owners saying they run great!🤦‍♂️ Dealer level scanners do not lie and people were asking me what it says. I'm like it says...275.00 dollars and I tell you other wise, have a great day and walk off.

 

The S63 from that (2003-2006) era is 496 HP and if you make a pully change then it shoots up to 540+ give or take a few HP.

 

[Papusan]

7 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

he caring ends as soon as there is something new to sell. Business runs on money. They too easily forget that money comes from the people that buy the products businesses sell. The problem is they love the money, not the people they get it from. Pretty messed up, but that's the way the ball bounces.

 

Once in a great while we see an exception to that, and those companies are usually very successful. They operate based on The Golden Rule. They are few and far between, unfortunately.

 

Pretending it is true it's fairly common though. You can easily spot the liars because actions speak louder than words... ASUS.
 

Edited 3 hours ago by Mr. Fox
added https://www.karhusoftware.com/ramtest/ info

As I said... Pascal and Turing is probably the next cards on the castrating list. Why not just get rid of the small amount extra voltage you can add with the different AIB OC tuning software? I expect this feature is only meant to lure you into thinking their new and shiny is fantastic overclocker's. Once the card is a  few years old... We must get rid of features that prolong the products lifespan. One word for this... DISGUSTING!

 

https://www.overclock.net/threads/nvidia-sucks-power-limit-taken-away-900-series-driver.1800372/post-29149719

 

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Great news, Brother @Papusan! Looky here... you can get bling bling for your crocs now!

Hurry, before they are all gone. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BWTHRRW4

Fantastic. I must have those. I live in a place with the dreaded northern dark 9 months a year so I will check it out. Thanks🙂

 

See... The Crocs lights will match my Lupine Wilma headlight😀 Who need bling bling lights in a pc chassis when you can just turn around and sit the correct way with the crocs? 

 

Today. New snow storm. One of many here in the North. Some harder and some not as bad. From Nov - May. We are now in first spring months of 3. The snow is gone middle May. So not a real spring here. Only white and green winter, LOOL

 

Quote

Ryan. Another prebuilt brand to avoid. MSI ain't much better than the Dell Alienware disaster...

Plastic and glue is cheap. How to make most profits. 2:45

 

[Rage Set]

Andddd it's off! I am curious to see what Mr. Fox does with AMD on the GPU side of things. On one hand, it is a new experience and the chance to gain some points. On the other hand, I suspect his visit with AMD to be short-lived, hahaha. Mr. Fox, my advice is that dialing back the voltage aka undervolting on AMD GPU's will help you in certain benchmarks. 

 

One last thing, I don't remember using MPT and Red BIOS Editor on the Asrock 6900XT, only on my MSI 6800XT. I don't think I did it because I wanted to wait until I blocked it and as you will see, I never did block it. 

[Mr. Fox]

4 hours ago, tps3443 said:

Looks like a OG MSI Gaming X! Based on picture quality. That’s probably like a 980Ti maybe? 

 

3 hours ago, johnksss said:

Not sure, I think 1080 or 1080 Ti's.

Yup. That seems like not long ago but it actually was longer than it seems. It was 5 years ago and they were 1080 Ti. I know this because my only 1080 Ti SLI benchmarks were run that day.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/3839002_mr._fox_3dmark11___performance_2x_geforce_gtx_1080_ti_46904_marks

25 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

Andddd it's off! I am curious to see what Mr. Fox does with AMD on the GPU side of things. On one hand, it is a new experience and the chance to gain some points. On the other hand, I suspect his visit with AMD to be short-lived, hahaha. Mr. Fox, my advice is that dialing back the voltage aka undervolting on AMD GPU's will help you in certain benchmarks. 

 

One last thing, I don't remember using MPT and Red BIOS Editor on the Asrock 6900XT, only on my MSI 6800XT. I don't think I did it because I wanted to wait until I blocked it and as you will see, I never did block it. 

It will be fun to see what I can do with it. I haven't used those tools before. They did not exist as far as I know the last time I owned a Red GPU, so I will need to grab them and figure it out. Thanks, Brother @Rage Set.

[Talon]

17 hours ago, johnksss said:

@Mr. Fox

My new to me ride.

That's who I bought it from.

 

The other one...

 

Did you close the deal with an epic handshake?

 

 

[Raiderman]

18 hours ago, johnksss said:

@Mr. Fox

My new to me ride.

That's who I bought it from.

 

The other one...

I kept scrolling back to that first pic, and was saying....man he looks like Carl Weathers.....lol. Then two posts later....

 

 

[Papusan]

Bro @Mr. Fox @johnksss

 

Is the problem Win 11 or do I miss something? Enable Rbar - Feature in Nvidia Profile Inspector. But there is two other options in there as  rBar Options and rBar Size limit. I haven't added any values there. I haven't had new modern so I need to learn it on new again. In short is Enable rBar enough or do you have to change other rBar settings in NIP ?

 

The boost and memory clocks looks good, the boost clocks start at 3120 and run at that speed the first 20 sec before it settle down to 3106 the whole benchmark, but the result doesn't look very good. The clocks stay nice and steady where they should be. The clocks should normally be enough to push me well above 28000 in Port Royal. 

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/pr/2140694/pr/2189217/pr/2152158#

 

 

Btw. It looks fun fiddling with new and shiny from AMD...

 

An ultra-rare Radeon driver bug is breaking PCs. This exotic fix revived mine

An extremely unusual Radeon driver bug can badly break Windows, but AMD is on it.