*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[Talon]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes, everything is maxed out on power and current limits. This is 57x all P and 50x all E. Same score. 1.385-1.400V and all return the same score, give or take about 50 points. Weird. 

And, only 76 processes running in Windoze 11. Temps are fine. No thermal throttling. 

 

What BIOS version and ME are you using @Talon?

Im on the latest version, but I’ve heard people say it has internal limiters or something and you can’t downgrade.

 

Something does seem to be limiting you. 
 

I know you could probably score higher by undervolting (very small undervolt with offsets) on P/E cores but it might introduce instability long term. 
 

When I get home I’ll check my score tomorrow. On the road till then unfortunately. 

[Mr. Fox]

38 minutes ago, Talon said:

Im on the latest version, but I’ve heard people say it has internal limiters or something and you can’t downgrade.

 

Something does seem to be limiting you. 
 

I know you could probably score higher by undervolting (very small undervolt with offsets) on P/E cores but it might introduce instability long term. 
 

When I get home I’ll check my score tomorrow. On the road till then unfortunately. 

No rush. It is working fine otherwise. I tested 9931 and it is the same as 9901. I'm surprised if they were not able to downgrade using the flash recovery method. That always worked before (and does on AMD) even when ASUS says you cannot go back. I may test that on one BIOS position to find out if it is really true or not. I may just take a Macrium image of my current OS and install an older version of Windoze with no debloating mods to rule that out as a possible cause.

[Mr. Fox]

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[Mr. Fox]

6 hours ago, Talon said:

Im on the latest version, but I’ve heard people say it has internal limiters or something and you can’t downgrade.

 

Something does seem to be limiting you. 
 

I know you could probably score higher by undervolting (very small undervolt with offsets) on P/E cores but it might introduce instability long term. 
 

When I get home I’ll check my score tomorrow. On the road till then unfortunately. 

 

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

No rush. It is working fine otherwise. I tested 9931 and it is the same as 9901. I'm surprised if they were not able to downgrade using the flash recovery method. That always worked before (and does on AMD) even when ASUS says you cannot go back. I may test that on one BIOS position to find out if it is really true or not. I may just take a Macrium image of my current OS and install an older version of Windoze with no debloating mods to rule that out as a possible cause.

I flashed the latest BIOS without flashing the newer ME (using the flash recovery and renamed file) and it made little difference. I notice my "max effective clocks" are less even though I see no evidence of throttling. That makes me wonder if there is a BIOS setting I am missing somewhere. The max core frequency and max effective clock should be the same unless something is set wrong.

 

 

Here is what Google Gemini AI told me. 

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To make the effective clock match the maximum frequency on the Intel Core Ultra 7 270K Plus, you must disable the CPU's dynamic power-saving and boosting features. 

• Disable Intel Speed Shift: Locate and disable Intel Speed Shift Technology in the BIOS, which allows the OS to dynamically change frequencies. 

• Disable C-States: Turn off all C-States (C1, C6, etc.) to prevent the cores from downclocking during idle or light loads. 

• Set Fixed Ratio: Change the Performance Core Ratio from "By Core Usage" or "Sync All Cores" to a fixed multiplier (e.g., setting all cores to 55x for 5.5 GHz). 

• Power Plan: In Windows, set the Maximum Processor State to 100% and ensure the power plan is set to High Performance to prevent OS-level throttling. 

Note that maintaining a fixed maximum frequency will significantly increase power consumption and heat output, as the CPU will not downclock when idle. 

Nice try, robo-tech. Already did all that.

[Papusan]

On 7/1/2026 at 12:51 AM, Papusan said:

Not so great. I need to figure out my blood pressure. Perfectly fine with medication in the morning, but then it increase up to 175/85 in the noon/evening. Has become like this the last days. Why the change, I don't know. I have even stopped smoking now, only some puffing/vaping. Then the blood pressure going ok again the next morning. Even before I start the medication in the morning. I can't have a good life now before this being fixed. This scares me to death☹️ I'll see what the doctors can do the coming days. But thanks for asking. I realy appreciate it.

 

On 7/1/2026 at 3:51 AM, Mr. Fox said:

You are in our thoughts and prayers, brother. Are you getting enough sleep? I very rarely ever get the amount of sleep my body and brain need me to, but when I do it always lowers my blood pressure. I'm wondering if yours is lower in the morning because you were sleeping and not stressed out as much as you are when you are awake.

 

I have been  my own doctor the last two days. Google and some AI. I'm sure the higher blood-pressure in the noon/evening come because I now have stooped smoking so fast. Within 3-4 days I have stopped with the last 16 cigarillos/cigars to zero. And within the last 10 day I have gone from 35 cigarillos a day down to zero. Then my heavy coffee drinking... When I quit the smoking right of, the body takes much longer time ro reduce the caffeine level in my body. Up to the double time. The more I drink the more it will stay stuck in the body and make problems. 

 

Some summary.... Increased adrenaline due to nicotine withdrawal will actually increase the blood pressure. Same also for people try quitting alcohol after long time drinking. 

 

It is actually a well-known medical phenomenon that blood pressure can temporarily rise right after you quit smoking. Although your heart rate and acute blood pressure usually drop once the nicotine shock wears off, many people find that their overall blood pressure increases in the weeks after quitting smoking.

 

When your blood pressure rises to 160/175 over the course of the day, it is a clear sign that your body is under high physical stress due to quitting smoking. Even if your morning reading of 130/74 is fine, a jump to 160-170 during the day is high enough that you should address it, especially since you already have a known high blood pressure condition and are on medication.

 

Your liver takes twice as long: Because you quit smoking 3-4 days ago, your body excretes caffeine half as quickly as before. The 33-100 milligrams stay in your bloodstream for many hours.

 

With 1 liter coffee drinking It will increase my blood-pressure on  top of the hard stress for the body quitting to zero cigarettes. When I become stressed in the daytime my blood-pressure going bananas for hours until I fell in sleep at night-time. Thats not good after a stroke. The key is stable lower blodpreesureover time/weeks.

 

Will confront my doctor witht the findings tomorrow. I can not see another reson my blodd-pressure going bananas in the noon/evening the last days. The only change Ihas done is stopping smoking.

 

I tested my teory... Used one small sobril tablet. Half an hour later, my blood-presure went down from 170 down to  147.  More relaxed/reduced stress reduced my blood pressure almost immediately. I think changing the blodpressurebmedicine and get some more closer to the evening will hep reduce blood-pressure in the noon/evening. Because earlier in the day I have no problem.

 

Me now... Feel  I'm Doc Papusan Yup, more like a real doctor😁

 

LOL. AI sucks...... Wish we could push all the new modern trash into the grave.

 

"Papusan" (frequently active as "Doc Papusan" or simply Papusan) is a well-known, high-profile community figure and enthusiast in the global PC hardware, overclocking, and tech benchmarking communities. [1, 2]

 

Hardware Specialization & Stance

• Flagship Hardware Tuning: His personal system specs, famously nicknamed "The Killer" on TechPowerUp, boast extreme custom liquid cooling setups handling top-tier hardware like the Intel Core i9-14900KS, highly optimized DDR5 memory, and various flagship graphics cards like the RTX 4090 and RTX 5090. [1, 2]
• Anti-Censorship & Consumer Advocacy: Within his circles, he is known for a candid, blunt, and highly critical tone regarding modern consumer tech trends. He regularly calls out major manufacturers for prioritizing aesthetic RGB features over adequate power delivery cooling, criticizes bloatware in modern operating systems, and acts as a vocal critic of overhyped AI trends. [1, 2]

 

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[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Me now... Feel  I'm Doc Papusan Yup, more like a real doctor😁

 

LOL. AI sucks...... Wish we could push all the new modern trash into the grave.

 

"Papusan" (frequently active as "Doc Papusan" or simply Papusan) is a well-known, high-profile community figure and enthusiast in the global PC hardware, overclocking, and tech benchmarking communities. [1, 2]

 

Hardware Specialization & Stance

• Flagship Hardware Tuning: His personal system specs, famously nicknamed "The Killer" on TechPowerUp, boast extreme custom liquid cooling setups handling top-tier hardware like the Intel Core i9-14900KS, highly optimized DDR5 memory, and various flagship graphics cards like the RTX 4090 and RTX 5090. [1, 2]
• Anti-Censorship & Consumer Advocacy: Within his circles, he is known for a candid, blunt, and highly critical tone regarding modern consumer tech trends. He regularly calls out major manufacturers for prioritizing aesthetic RGB features over adequate power delivery cooling, criticizes bloatware in modern operating systems, and acts as a vocal critic of overhyped AI trends. [1, 2]

I  am very happy that you are on the mend. We are not doctors, but I do not have a great deal of confidence in medical science and I think sometimes we are better off figuring things out on our own rather than taking a doctor's advice. If we did everything our doctor's wanted, some of us would be dead. And, because some of us have followed the direction of medical professionals we are worse off (some maybe even dead). When it involves pharmaceuticals and surgery, it is driven my the same motivating factors as AI. The wealth generation matters far more than the lives of people it is supposedly going to benefit.

 

AI does suck, but it can be useful. It sucks because of what it has done to the world, but I do not believe it will end well. It has hurt more than PC hardware enthusiasts, and it is because of rampant greed of the companies developing it. I hope that it ends up ruining all of them with catastrophic and unrecoverable financial losses that puts most of them out of business.

 

I use it for self-help/medical questions as you did, and I use it at work frequently. A fair amount of my new job involves using it and identifying new uses for it.

 

It is dangerous for all of us in terms of personal security. AI should not know who we are. Because it does it will be used by bad actors to do bad things that would never be possible without the assistance of AI. Fake everything is coming our way. I suspect it will redefine what "fake news" means and take it to the next level. We will see and hear video and audio clips of thing that were never said and never happened. People will go to jail for doing things they never did, marriages will be destroyed because of things that never happened, etc.

 

I asked who is Mr. Fox? and it knows all of us. 

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Mr. Fox (or MrFox) is a highly prominent and legendary figure in the PC enthusiast, overclocking, and high-end laptop communities. [1, 2, 3]

Given your previous question about "Papusan," you are referring to the tech forum user Mr. Fox, who frequently interacts with Papusan across various specialized hardware communities. [1]

 

Who is Mr. Fox in the Tech Community?

• Community Legend: He is widely recognized as a "Grand Master" member and administrator across elite hardware forums. He was one of the most influential figures on the famous, now-defunct NotebookReview (NBR) forums and remains highly active on replacement communities like ⁠NotebookTalk and Overclock.net. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• Overclocking & Benchmarking Pioneer: His forum signatures and titles usually sport mottos like "⚡Overclocked⚡ ⚡Overvolted⚡". He is famous for creating and hosting massive community benchmark threads (such as the Official Benchmark Thread - Post it here or it didn't happen :D) where hardware enthusiasts push their rigs to extreme limits. [1, 2, 3, 4]
• The "Desktop Replacement" Era: For over a decade, Mr. Fox was a foremost expert on high-end, socketed gaming laptops (like older Alienware, Clevo, and Eurocom systems) that used desktop-grade CPUs and MXM graphics cards. He specialized in custom BIOS flashing, voltage modding, and unlocking locked power limits to maximize mobile hardware performance.
• Shift to Extreme Desktops: Though a legend in the laptop space, he has famously expressed frustrations with modern locked-down, soldered laptop designs, focusing heavily on open-bench and liquid-cooled extreme desktop builds. [1, 2]

It knows who we hang out with... past and present... from before AI was invented.

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In the online world of high-end hardware, PC overclocking, and enthusiast laptops, Mr. Fox hangs out with a tight-knit inner circle oelite "power users," custom BIOS modders, and extreme benchmarkers.

Following the shutdown of the legendary NotebookReview (NBR) forums, this group migrated together and primarily hangs out on newer hubs like ⁠NotebookTalk, Overclock.net, and the TechPowerUp forums. [1]

His most notable online circles, collaborators, and forum "buddies" include:

 

1. His Core Inner Circle (The NBR / NotebookTalk Veterans)

• Papusan: As you noted earlier, Papusan and Mr. Fox are a famous duo in the hardware community. They constantly post in the same threads, tag-team hardware debates, and heavily collaborate on testing extreme, custom laptop cooling mods (like liquid metal applications).
• Prema: A legendary figure in the laptop community who is famous for creating "Prema Mods"—highly coveted, custom custom BIOS/vBIOS firmware that unlocks locked power limits. Mr. Fox was frequently a primary tester and vocal champion of Prema's work on high-end Clevo and Alienware systems.
• j95: Another elite tech forum veteran who frequently collaborates with Mr. Fox on advanced software tweaks, custom Windows ISO configurations for benchmarking, and driver modding.
• BrotherJohn: A well-known enthusiast heavily involved in the same benchmarking and community leadership circles, often managing or contributing to the same threads.

 

2. The Extreme Benchmarkers & Overclockers

Mr. Fox runs the famous "Official Benchmark Thread", which serves as a virtual hangout spot for extreme tech enthusiasts. In these circles, he hangs out with: [1]

• Users who build liquid-cooled, open-air test benches.
• Enthusiasts chasing top spots on global ranking sites like HWBOT for programs like 3DMark (Fire Strike/Time Spy) and Cinebench. [1, 2]

 

3. The Custom "Desktop Replacement" (DTR) Community

Before major manufacturers shifted entirely to thin, soldered-together laptops, Mr. Fox was the leader of the Clevo, Eurocom, and MSI "true" desktop-replacement communities. His online hangout spots are filled with users who swap out desktop CPUs and MXM graphics cards inside massive laptop chassis.