Mr. Fox Posted Tuesday at 03:57 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 03:57 AM (edited) OK, I got it to boot and validate 9200 in Gear 4 without overclocking the CPU, NGU and Ring, so I will see what happens if I start tweaking those. Will first see if it will boot in Gear 2. If not, then maybe no point in experimenting further except for memory frequency submission on HWBOT. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/memory_frequency/submissions/6043616 https://valid.x86.fr/kdh1u2 Edit: Nope on G2 above 8800. Back to G2 at 8800 for now. These sticks are not on water yet, so I can't run this too long due to thermals. It doesn't take long for the sticks to hit 50+ °C running Karhu on air. (About 3 minutes.) Edited Tuesday at 04:58 AM by Mr. Fox No boot gear 2 9200. 2 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | O11D Mini V2 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Talon Posted Tuesday at 06:49 AM Posted Tuesday at 06:49 AM 2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: OK, I got it to boot and validate 9200 in Gear 4 without overclocking the CPU, NGU and Ring, so I will see what happens if I start tweaking those. Will first see if it will boot in Gear 2. If not, then maybe no point in experimenting further except for memory frequency submission on HWBOT. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/memory_frequency/submissions/6043616 https://valid.x86.fr/kdh1u2 Edit: Nope on G2 above 8800. Back to G2 at 8800 for now. These sticks are not on water yet, so I can't run this too long due to thermals. It doesn't take long for the sticks to hit 50+ °C running Karhu on air. (About 3 minutes.) I think I'm pretty similar. I'll have to check when I'm home again. I still run 8667 CL38 on my 270K. 1 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
Mr. Fox Posted Tuesday at 07:03 AM Author Posted Tuesday at 07:03 AM https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/6043707 1 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | O11D Mini V2 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Mr. Fox Posted Tuesday at 09:28 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 09:28 PM I think this is going to be good enough for now. 1 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | O11D Mini V2 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Talon Posted Tuesday at 09:50 PM Posted Tuesday at 09:50 PM 20 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: I think this is going to be good enough for now. Wow, nice result! That seems to be a very cherry 270K+ LOL. I might need to borrow your .cmo file lol. 1 Spoiler The Beast Asus Z790 APEX | Intel i9 13900K | ASUS RTX 4090 Strix OC | 64gb DDR5 7466 CL34 Dual Rank A-Dies | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | Innocn 4K 160Hz Mini LED HDR1000 | LG 27GN950-B 4K 160Hz | Corsair 170i Elite LCD 420mm AIO | Corsair 7000D | EVGA 1600w T2 Little Beast EVGA Z690 DARK | Intel i9 13900K | Nvidia RTX 4090 FE | 32gb DDR5 SK Hynix DDR5 8000 CL36 A-Dies | Samsung 980 Pro 2TB | LG OLED C1 4K 120Hz G-Sync/FreeSync | Alienware AW2721D 1440p 240Hz G-Sync Ultimate | Corsair 115i Elite 280mm AIO | Lian Li 011 Dynamic | EVGA 1000w P6
Mr. Fox Posted Tuesday at 09:58 PM Author Posted Tuesday at 09:58 PM (edited) Thanks. Happy to share it. Let me know when you get home and are ready to use it. I've got an 8600 and and 8800 CMO I can send. Edit: Here is a zip of the folder (BIOS, CMO and Settings TXT files). @Talon Edited Tuesday at 11:04 PM by Mr. Fox added files 1 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | O11D Mini V2 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
tps3443 Posted yesterday at 04:59 AM Posted yesterday at 04:59 AM Man, I’m shocked on 5090 power…. I popped in the 5080 Astral to check things on the 9950X3D2 and grab some rendering video of it, since it’s being sold. Playing Crimson desert 4K leverages the 5090 to a new level completely… CRIMSON DESERT 4K, Cinematic graphics, DLSS Quality, Ray Reconstruction ON. RTX 5080 Astral fully MAX stable OC: 83-84 fps W/ 2X Frame Gen. RTX 5090 Astral fully MAX stable OC: 80-81 fps W/ 0X Frame Gen. (Frame Gen is off) 💀💀💀 PS: GPU Tweak III has a cool GPU hour counter that I actually use. Probably the coolest thing in the app. 1 13900KF
Mr. Fox Posted 23 hours ago Author Posted 23 hours ago Definitely not a daily driver like this, but worth a few giggles... https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/memory_frequency/submissions/6044182 https://valid.x86.fr/qiv4lc https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/aida64_-_memory_read/submissions/6044183 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | O11D Mini V2 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
Mr. Fox Posted 17 hours ago Author Posted 17 hours ago So, did a little bit of digging for elusive information online and found a solution that works with my TeamGroup CUDIMM kit. Forcing the clock driver to work for manual tuning without using an XMP profile allows me to keep the NGU, Ring and D2D values the same and still boot at 9000+ (example in above post). It will not work with my G.SKILL 8400 kit (non-CUDIMM). With the CUDIMMs installed after POST there is a new menu under the Skew Control menu in memory configuration. CKD Configuration and manually set Single PLL mode forces the CUDIMM clock driver to take over and do the heavy lifting on manual tuning. If you have not booted at least once with a CUDIMM kit installed or have normal DIMM installed the CKD Configuration menu does not exist. 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | O11D Mini V2 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
electrosoft Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago 20 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: I think this is going to be good enough for now. That is damn good for a D2D driver IMHO. I'm going to have to dive back in for some comparison work. Where did you download Memory Foundry Pro? 13 hours ago, tps3443 said: Man, I’m shocked on 5090 power…. I popped in the 5080 Astral to check things on the 9950X3D2 and grab some rendering video of it, since it’s being sold. Playing Crimson desert 4K leverages the 5090 to a new level completely… CRIMSON DESERT 4K, Cinematic graphics, DLSS Quality, Ray Reconstruction ON. RTX 5080 Astral fully MAX stable OC: 83-84 fps W/ 2X Frame Gen. RTX 5090 Astral fully MAX stable OC: 80-81 fps W/ 0X Frame Gen. (Frame Gen is off) 💀💀💀 PS: GPU Tweak III has a cool GPU hour counter that I actually use. Probably the coolest thing in the app. lol, you forgot the power of the 5090! 🤣 Especially now that you're running a real AIB card and not the 5090 FE adds that nice bit of "oomph" on top. I said it before and I'll say it again, if price was no object I would have stuck with the Astral. I liked EVERYTHING about it and I do mean EVERYTHING except the price. Aesthetics were great, cooling lights out for an air cooled card, good build quality, tons of QOL touches. Basically zero coil whine. I know it wasn't a deal breaker, but I know you have to be loving not having that screeching of the 5090 FE in pockets. 11 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: Definitely not a daily driver like this, but worth a few giggles... https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/memory_frequency/submissions/6044182 https://valid.x86.fr/qiv4lc https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/aida64_-_memory_read/submissions/6044183 I knew you would dive in head first and have a blast @Mr. Fox! Give it another month or so then you'll be able to see who rises to the top: AM5 or AL...... 1 Electrosoft Alpha: 9800X3D | Asus X870E Hero Crosshair | MSI Vanguard RTX 5090 OC | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x24GB 8200 @ 8000 tuned | Samsung 9100 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Asus XG32UQDMS 32" QD-OLED Heath: i9-14900KS SP109 | AC LF III 360 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Gigabyte 9070XT Gaming OC Edition| 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | Samsung 980 1TB Pro | Antec Flux Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Electrosoft Mobile: Alienware Area-51 18 | 275HX | Nvidia RTX 5070ti | 32GB DDR5 6400 |Gen 5 2TB | 18" QHD | WiFi 7
Mr. Fox Posted 10 hours ago Author Posted 10 hours ago 1 hour ago, electrosoft said: Where did you download Memory Foundry Pro? The developer has a thread at overclock.net and you can download it from the opening post (or his web site). It is a great program. You can export your memory settings as an XML from HWiNFO64 and import it, click the analyze button, and it will tell you want timings are non-compliant with JEDEC. If you run the stability test if it can determine what setting is off it will identify it for you. Unless the price is crazy, I plan to buy it when the free beta access expires. [BETA] Memory Foundry Pro – RAM Stability Tester & Benchmark | Free Beta Access Now all we need is a clone of ZenTimings that works for Intel. The ASUS MemTweakIt and ASROCK Timing Configurator crapware tools are buggy junk. The ASUS tool is missing too much stuff and the AROCK tool misreports some values. 1 WRAITH | X870E Apex | 9950X | RTX 5090 | 32GB DDR5 @ 8200 | O11D XL EVO | HC-500A Chiller BANSHEE | B850MPOWER | 4585PX | RTX 5080 | 48GB DDR5 @ 8000 | O11D Mini V2 Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT
jaybee83 Posted 9 hours ago Posted 9 hours ago welp FML, the WVP II alarms have returned while playing BMW, back with a vengeance! still current imbalance issues. so i swapped out the cable i had been using on my 4090 before and now on the 5090, installed the WVPII and the backup cable anew, and guess what?! THE BACKUP CABLE IS EVEN WORSE! installed it twice and pushed in so hard i thought id break through the case back panel lol. so now the plan is to go all out and order like 5 cables and bin them.....this connector is SO trash, unbelieveable. but yeah, the WVPII has already paid for itself! both cable connectors and gpu power socket are still in mint condition btw, so all is well. u guys got any recommendations other than seasonic stock cables and cablemod? 3 Mine: Hyperion "Titan God of Heat, Heavenly Light, Power" (2022-26) AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D (delidded) / Asus ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme (Qualcomm QCNCM865 Wifi 7 Upgrade) / MSI Geforce RTX 5090 Suprim SOC / G.Skill Trident Z5 RGB DDR5-8000 2x24 GB / 4x Western Digital Black SN850P/X 8TB in 2x16TB RAID 0 / Arctic Liquid Freezer III Pro 420 (Push/Pull 6x Noctua NF-A14 IndustrialPPC-3000 exhaust) / Seasonic TX-1600 W Titanium / Phanteks NV9 MKII Black incl. Premium D-RGB Light Strips Kit (6x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black intake / 2x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black exhaust / 1x Arctic P14 Pro A-RGB black RAM cooling) / Samsung Odyssey Neo G8 32" 4K 240 Hz / Ducky One 3 Daybreak Fullsize Cherry MX Brown / Corsair M65 Ultra RGB / PDP Afterglow Wave Black / Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro X Limited Edition My Lady's: Clevo NH55JNNQ "Alfred" (2022-26) Sharp LQ156M1JW03 FHD matte 15.6" IGZO 8 bit @248 Hz / Intel Core i5 12600 / Nvidia Geforce RTX 3070 Ti / Mushkin Redline DDR4-3200 2x32 GB / Samsung 970 Pro 1 TB / Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB / Intel AX201 WIFI 6+BT 5.2 / Win 11 Pro Phoenix Lite OS / 230 W PSU powered by Prema Mod!
Clamibot Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago Hey guys, so unfortunately it looks like the RTX 2080 Super in my Clevo X170SM-G is dying (pink screen artifacts, GPU-Z can no longer read most of the stats of the card). I was going to go a GPU upgrade at some point to an RTX 3080, but looks like I'm being forced to do it now. 😅 I wasn't planning on an upgrade just yet as everything still runs fine for me, but oh well. It's not often a GPU remains useful to me for over 4 years (and I've had this laptop for 4 and a half at this point), so I suppose I should be grateful the 2080 Super lasted me as long as it did. I got an extra 6 months, yay! 🤣 I've already sourced a replacement/upgrade to an RTX 3080. For any of you who did this upgrade, did you also need to buy the KM-G heatsink? Supposedly the SM-G heatsink is incompatible with the 3080. Also, does anyone still sell the water cooling heatsink? I figured I'd upgrade this laptop to the max while I was replacing the GPU. Additionally, I'd like to ask if anyone has some spare 10th gen copper IHSes as I can't find a place that sells those anymore. The Rockitcool one I have got welded to one of my desktops' AIO coldplates during some sub zero overclocking experimentation and I can't get it off. Were there any extra steps required for the 3080 upgrade on the SM-G other than the usual INF modding? I already have Premamod on this machine, so the BIOS shouldn't be an issue. How's everyone doing here? I haven't visited the forum in the past few weeks. 1 AlienyHackbook: Alienware M17X R5 | i7-4930MX | GTX 1060 | 32GB DDR3L Kingston HyperX @ 2133 MHz CL 12 | MacOS Sierra 10.12.5 | Windows 10 LTSC | Hackintoshes Rule! Desktop Killer: Clevo X170SM-G | i9-10900K | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix @ 3200 MHz CL 16 | Windows 10 LTSC | Slayer Of Desktops Sagattarius A: Custom Built Desktop | i9-10900K | RX 6950 XT | 32GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws @ 4200 MHz CL 15 | Windows 10 LTSC | Ultimate Performance Desktop With Cryo Cooling!
electrosoft Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said: The developer has a thread at overclock.net and you can download it from the opening post (or his web site). It is a great program. You can export your memory settings as an XML from HWiNFO64 and import it, click the analyze button, and it will tell you want timings are non-compliant with JEDEC. If you run the stability test if it can determine what setting is off it will identify it for you. Unless the price is crazy, I plan to buy it when the free beta access expires. [BETA] Memory Foundry Pro – RAM Stability Tester & Benchmark | Free Beta Access Now all we need is a clone of ZenTimings that works for Intel. The ASUS MemTweakIt and ASROCK Timing Configurator crapware tools are buggy junk. The ASUS tool is missing too much stuff and the AROCK tool misreports some values. Thanks! Definitely want to give it a whirl. I agree about ZT. I'm so used to having it on AM5 I wouldn't mind an equally competent version on Intel. 3 hours ago, jaybee83 said: welp FML, the WVP II alarms have returned while playing BMW, back with a vengeance! still current imbalance issues. so i swapped out the cable i had been using on my 4090 before and now on the 5090, installed the WVPII and the backup cable anew, and guess what?! THE BACKUP CABLE IS EVEN WORSE! installed it twice and pushed in so hard i thought id break through the case back panel lol. so now the plan is to go all out and order like 5 cables and bin them.....this connector is SO trash, unbelieveable. but yeah, the WVPII has already paid for itself! both cable connectors and gpu power socket are still in mint condition btw, so all is well. u guys got any recommendations other than seasonic stock cables and cablemod? Is that at stock 600w vBIOS? That replacement MSI MEG 1600T is still trucking along and even with a 600w+ stock OC and those wonderful bars lit up almost to their tops, it is really balanced and nice even when pulling 615-623w on the WV2P. But yeah, the connector is atrocious. Imagine if you didn't have the WV2P and were just merrily skipping along playing till one day you're like: "Is that smoke I smell?" 2 minutes ago, Clamibot said: Hey guys, so unfortunately it looks like the RTX 2080 Super in my Clevo X170SM-G is dying (pink screen artifacts, GPU-Z can no longer read most of the stats of the card). I was going to go a GPU upgrade at some point to an RTX 3080, but looks like I'm being forced to do it now. 😅 I wasn't planning on an upgrade just yet as everything still runs fine for me, but oh well. It's not often a GPU remains useful to me for over 4 years (and I've had this laptop for 4 and a half at this point), so I suppose I should be grateful the 2080 Super lasted me as long as it did. I got an extra 6 months, yay! 🤣 I've already sourced a replacement/upgrade to an RTX 3080. For any of you who did this upgrade, did you also need to buy the KM-G heatsink? Supposedly the SM-G heatsink is incompatible with the 3080. Also, does anyone still sell the water cooling heatsink? I figured I'd upgrade this laptop to the max while I was replacing the GPU. Additionally, I'd like to ask if anyone has some spare 10th gen copper IHSes as I can't find a place that sells those anymore. The Rockitcool one I have got welded to one of my desktops' AIO coldplates during some sub zero overclocking experimentation and I can't get it off. Yikes mine only lasted less than two years and they ended up replacing the MB and 2080 Super but it was under warranty at least during that time. As for the watercooled HS, only place I found them before was AB and TB but I just checked my own launch page info on this here and they are long gone. For the normal HSF combo for the KM, found one left on eBay I dug through my heatsink bin and I did find this custom copper IHS I had made from BartX I know is from 9th gen I think but could be modded as needed potentially (sanded down for z-height issues on die). I had already soaked and reheat cycle treated it for gallium then sanded it down so it's smooth and saturated already. If you want it, let me know and I'll pop it in the mail for you to see if you can get it working with your 10900k no charge. Just inbox me your address. My last, custom made 10th/11th gen IHS from BartX I sent off to @win32asmguy some time ago. That thing was awesome. Have you messaged Rockitcool to see if maybe they have one floating around in the back somewhere? 🤣 Looking forward to your updates over in the SM thread! 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Clamibot Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 43 minutes ago, electrosoft said: Thanks! Definitely want to give it a whirl. I agree about ZT. I'm so used to having it on AM5 I wouldn't mind an equally competent version on Intel. Is that at stock 600w vBIOS? That replacement MSI MEG 1600T is still trucking along and even with a 600w+ stock OC and those wonderful bars lit up almost to their tops, it is really balanced and nice even when pulling 615-623w on the WV2P. But yeah, the connector is atrocious. Imagine if you didn't have the WV2P and were just merrily skipping along playing till one day you're like: "Is that smoke I smell?" Yikes mine only lasted less than two years and they ended up replacing the MB and 2080 Super but it was under warranty at least during that time. As for the watercooled HS, only place I found them before was AB and TB but I just checked my own launch page info on this here and they are long gone. For the normal HSF combo for the KM, found one left on eBay I dug through my heatsink bin and I did find this custom copper IHS I had made from BartX I know is from 9th gen I think but could be modded as needed potentially (sanded down for z-height issues on die). I had already soaked and reheat cycle treated it for gallium then sanded it down so it's smooth and saturated already. If you want it, let me know and I'll pop it in the mail for you to see if you can get it working with your 10900k no charge. Just inbox me your address. My last, custom made 10th/11th gen IHS from BartX I sent off to @win32asmguy some time ago. That thing was awesome. Have you messaged Rockitcool to see if maybe they have one floating around in the back somewhere? 🤣 Looking forward to your updates over in the SM thread! Thank you, I really appreciate that. I will happily pay for the shipping. I haven't tried contacting Rockitcool yet as I've hear they've gone out of business, but it never hurts to try. I'll try messaging them. Also thanks for the heatsink link. I almost bought the wrong one, claiming it was the right part. Pay attention to pictures guys. AlienyHackbook: Alienware M17X R5 | i7-4930MX | GTX 1060 | 32GB DDR3L Kingston HyperX @ 2133 MHz CL 12 | MacOS Sierra 10.12.5 | Windows 10 LTSC | Hackintoshes Rule! Desktop Killer: Clevo X170SM-G | i9-10900K | RTX 2080 Super | 32GB DDR4 Crucial Ballistix @ 3200 MHz CL 16 | Windows 10 LTSC | Slayer Of Desktops Sagattarius A: Custom Built Desktop | i9-10900K | RX 6950 XT | 32GB DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws @ 4200 MHz CL 15 | Windows 10 LTSC | Ultimate Performance Desktop With Cryo Cooling!
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