*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

Buildzoid delving into the SP ratings:

 

 

 

Large sample of 12900k and 12600k chips tested (closer to launch). Average over SP = 85. Average P cores = 93.

 

Smile or frown at your current silicon accordingly..... 🙂

 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Buildzoid delving into the SP ratings:

 

 

 

Large sample of 12900k and 12600k chips tested (closer to launch). Average over SP = 85. Average P cores = 93.

 

Smile or frown at your current silicon accordingly..... 🙂

 

Sad they didn't make an bin statistic for the 12700K chips. But probably not worth it as it's an already heavly down binned chips. I would avoid all of the lower tier chips that have same P cores count as the flagship. You pay abit less but for an reason. Same was it for the 11th gen. The buyers is the losers vs Intel's bin strategy to offer KS chips for premium. Yep, you have an chance to ge a better chips with the KS but then you have to wait until the end of each new gen chips to buy a new platform. Intel is the winner here and the customers is the losers in the new modern chips lottery. 

[ryan]

I was wondering and might look into youvideos but the 3060 is targeting 1080p and the 3090 4k. how does the 3090 at 4k compare to the 3060 at 1080p. are we there yet

[Papusan]

Is this the English name for this part below? PSU Cable Comb Kit? The one's that followed the Corsair package is hard and not very flexible. Probably the cheapest they could put with this Corsair 1000D chassis. Do you have a suggestion for something better than this cheapo garbage?

 

 

And I'm not very impressed with some of the workmanships. Corsair should add gaskets around the doors. 0.5-7mm gap on the top / bottom of the doors lead to incorrect air pressure in the chassis. Aka dust build up or that the fans draw in unfiltred air. I have to find a solution for this (a window gasket will work). I'll give their HW designers 0 of 10 for this failure on a otherwise great chassis. 

[Papusan]

Finally ranked #1 in Norway🙂 https://hwbot.org/user/papusan/

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945819_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_1070_69625_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945864_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_1070_87480_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945819_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_1070_69625_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945847_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_91779_marks

 

 

[Papusan]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945851_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_gtx_1070_41308_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945866_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_28161_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945870_papusan_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_1070_170133_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945824_papusan_3dmark___fire_strike_geforce_gtx_1070_20092_marks

 

 

Maybe the AMD boys and girls get an real fix in May. This means 7 months after Win 11 release and or 7 years after Win 10 saw the light. 7 is todays lucky number🙂 Yep better late than never. Hope it works out this time. 

 

AMD Issues Fix and Workaround for Ryzen's fTPM Stuttering Issues

 

AMD breaks the silence, issues fix and temporary workaround

 

"AMD's fTPM issues impact both Windows 10 and Windows 11 Ryzen systems (Zen+ to Zen 3 architectures), with the typical side effect being random stuttering and lagging that lasts one to two seconds. These periods occur multiple times per day during all manner of workloads, including gaming"

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-issues-fix-and-workaround-for-ftpm-stuttering-issues

 

[ryan]

all this cpu benchmarking!!

 

do you guys realize the cpu is the brains but the persons legs are gimped. cpu does not matter anymore. lol trying to start a debate on how much cpu matters

 

heres the witcher 3 with a 11800h with turbo disabled and max settings with hairworks aa at 2 and shadows at medium

 

100fps

 

thats 2.2ghz

 

when I run 5ghz I net an extra frame..hmm uh huh..now graphically demanding games don't need cpu speed or power>? well yes and no. in games like counterstrike it matters but will you really benefit from 600 over 300fps

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, ryan said:

all this cpu benchmarking!!

 

do you guys realize the cpu is the brains but the persons legs are gimped. cpu does not matter anymore. lol trying to start a debate on how much cpu matters

 

heres the witcher 3 with a 11800h with turbo disabled and max settings with hairworks aa at 2 and shadows at medium

 

100fps

 

thats 2.2ghz

 

when I run 5ghz I net an extra frame..hmm uh huh..now graphically demanding games don't need cpu speed or power>? well yes and no. in games like counterstrike it matters but will you really benefit from 600 over 300fps

Don't make an fasit from only 1 or a few games... The link below is already soon 1 year old How Many CPU Cores Do You Need For Great PC Gaming?

 

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Apple double up the cores on their next Cpu. Both for  the real P cores and the wimpy small efficiency cores and make an combo of 16 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores. Intel goes their own retarded way and will only double up the efficiency cores for their refreshed Cpu to make an weird 8 P / 16 E cores Hybrid combo. Maybe Pat Gelsinger at Intel should try hire all the chips engineers from Apple first as last? I wonder what stuff Intel's Cpu engineer team smoke.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/620879/apple-adds-monster-chip-the-new-apple-m1-ultra.html

 

 

Btw.  Say hello to the new Spectre for Intel's new gen chips 🙂 The extra added E-cores for coming Raptor lake chips will help Intel to increase the performance differences between 12th and 13th gen chips when they later have to patch the vulnerability flaws. 

 

All of Intel's processors beginning with Haswell (launched in 2013) and extending to the latest Ice Lake-SP and Alder Lake are affected by the vulnerability, but Intel is about to release a software patch that will mitigate the issue.

Intel Alder Lake, ARM CPUs Affected by New Spectre Vulnerability

 

 

And Nvidia know how they can put the correct price point for coming 4000 series cards. Newer cards can't be cheapert than previous gen grahics cards when they both is listed both from their AIB partners and retail stores going forwards. 

 

NVIDIA Hints At Selling GeForce RTX 4000 Ada Lovelace GPUs Alongside 3000 Series

The ongoing GPU shortage has been frustrating for anyone that needs a graphics processor for any reason. Gamers, computer scientists, researchers, and yes, even crypto-miners have all struggled under the extreme dearth of any discrete GPUs to buy.

[Ashtrix]

5 hours ago, Papusan said:

Don't make an fasit from only 1 or a few games... The link below is already soon 1 year old How Many CPU Cores Do You Need For Great PC Gaming?

 

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Apple double up the cores on their next Cpu. Both for  the real P cores and the wimpy small efficiency cores and make an combo of 16 performance cores and 4 efficiency cores. Intel goes their own retarded way and will only double up the efficiency cores for their refreshed Cpu to make an weird 8 P / 16 E cores Hybrid combo. Maybe Pat Gelsinger at Intel should try hire all the chips engineers from Apple first as last? I wonder what stuff Intel's Cpu engineer team smoke.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/620879/apple-adds-monster-chip-the-new-apple-m1-ultra.html

 

 

Btw.  Say hello to the new Spectre for Intel's new gen chips 🙂 The extra added E-cores for coming Raptor lake chips will help Intel to increase the performance differences between 12th and 13th gen chips when they later have to patch the vulnerability flaws. 

 

All of Intel's processors beginning with Haswell (launched in 2013) and extending to the latest Ice Lake-SP and Alder Lake are affected by the vulnerability, but Intel is about to release a software patch that will mitigate the issue.

Intel Alder Lake, ARM CPUs Affected by New Spectre Vulnerability

 

 

And Nvidia know how they can put the correct price point for coming 4000 series cards. Newer cards can't be cheapert than previous gen grahics cards when they both is listed both from their AIB partners and retail stores going forwards. 

 

NVIDIA Hints At Selling GeForce RTX 4000 Ada Lovelace GPUs Alongside 3000 Series

The ongoing GPU shortage has been frustrating for anyone that needs a graphics processor for any reason. Gamers, computer scientists, researchers, and yes, even crypto-miners have all struggled under the extreme dearth of any discrete GPUs to buy.

 

 

Yep Apple went too big unlike pathetic Intel but remember Intel wants BGA JUNK for their thin and light trash, Intel loves BGA more than anything because very high margins and high volume plus pathetic binning, vs LGA high binning standards on top gaming is the most important thing for Intel so 8P. While Apple is making this to simply have the damn PR command like always...😝

 

But this SOC is a disaster to me esp with my unhinged Apple hate. I will explain quickly and short.

 

First the SOC Is 800mm2, 2x the size of M1 Max, and it packs 2x of the Transistor count which was already massive 50bn+ now it's 114Bn. Which makes it one of the most expensive production Silicon on TSMC probably. Then they added unified memory to it, which we will talk later.

 

Second is the ultimate taboo in my book. It's all BGA TRASH. A Studio chassis first time in decades, Apple could have literally made the chassis years ago and used an LGA Intel processor inside it, ofc that means consumer gets more options instead getting ripped by Apple no that cannot happen as per them,

 

Anyways moving on, they say it's a workstation, without much I/O, you buy more Thunderbolt accessories lol, no NVMe option, no Optane (kinda dumb but P5800X Optane is the world's mort high performing and high endurance drive) well let's forget that since it's too expensive, look at Seagate FireCuda 4TB drive  powered by Micron NAND flash, it's the fastest consumer grade PCIe 4.0 SSD with maximum endurance and performance than SN850 Black and 980 Pro, same cost as 8TB Apple upgrade though for 2x 530 4TB FireCuda, you will get a nice socketed 2280 stick vs a BGA dump.

 

No PCIexpress slots for real workstation uses - HBA SAS Expanders for RAIDs and tons of Drives or the Hypervisors like VMWare ESXi, Proxmox etc. Nothing, but a junk Apple OS which is fancy at best.

 

Third is the Price and Performance, this thing costs $1500 for the base version of M1 Max  a bit of recap - That CPU was benchmarked by Anandtech with mobile laptop junks, where it was keeping up with the 3080L BGA JUNK Nvidia mobile GPU that was only in Geekbench trash, in real workload an SOTTR doesn't have the ARM native distribution so it uses Rosetta, as in it's impressive BUT loses out badly lol, it performs worse than 3060L 🤮 mobile junk. Yeah it's fast in encoding and other works like Finalcut Pro, Davinci stuff, thanks to Apple first party payment optimization services to vendors like Adobe and Co. on top of the ARM processors having dedicated compute blocks, x86 does everything in brute force so it relies on high ST and SMT / Hyperthreading unlike ARM.

 

 

 

Now  they say it's faster than a 3090, with what ? 114Bn design of 800mm2 die while 3090 has 28bn count on top of 12900K having just mere 2.xbn transistor count lol. Now the best part, look at the M1 Ultra cost, so to beat a 3090 which Ryan Smith at Anandtech really believes in, you must pay $4000 base for Ultra SOC upgrade AND $2000 USD extra to get more GPU cores, PLUS you get a puny 64GB memory, 1TB SSD. Ofc you can upgrade all of them to a nice $6000-$8000 price tag.

 

 

And that's what it is in a nutshell. The graphs and claims ofc with footnotes matching the 12900K running DDR5 and 3090 (leaving aside the intricacies of the Dual Rank High speed XMP 3.0 memory, fully unlocked AVX512 speed without E core nonsense, and etc etc) their performance is equivalent to a 12900K + 3090 all for ? $4000-8000 USD with no memory or storage upgrades, no PCIexpress, no NVMe RAID. We get nothing, but a hunk of soldered rubbish bragging piece of scrap recycled metal box to brag about Davinci Resolve and how dumb the sheep are.

 

An old used Enterprise class HPE / Dell PowerEdge Rack servers 1U or 2U chassis with Intel Xeon processors, ECC DRAM can be made for that cash and we can enjoy a real Personal Computer unlike this BGA trashware. Apple beating their chest how great their oversized silicon overloaded with transistors on bleeding edge TSMC node vs the competition like Intel 10nmESF (which is Intel 7, a.k.a TSMC 7N class) and Samsung 8N which is 10nm Samsung for GA102 LOL.

 

I will wait for Genoa Turin processors which will shred every single CPU out there and derivative AM5 processors. Ofc Intel's Sapphire Rapids XEONs as well and Raptor Lake processors, plus new Ada Lovelace and RDNA3 GPUs are incoming on TSMC 5N which will REKT Apple nonsense.

[Papusan]

10 minutes ago, Ashtrix said:

 

But this SOC is a disaster to me esp with my unhinged Apple hate. I will explain quickly and short.

Enjoyable reading bro Ashtrix. I would put all of todays new modern tech in the same basket 🙂 +reps

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947092_papusan_3dmark2001_se_geforce_gtx_1070_171525_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947104_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_1070_89323_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947098_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_1070_71769_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947136_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_91886_marks

 

 

[Papusan]

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945851_papusan_3dmark11___entry_geforce_gtx_1070_41308_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947135_papusan_3dmark11___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_28215_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947142_papusan_3dmark11___extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_10278_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947170_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_gtx_1070_62315_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947177_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_gtx_1070_3515_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4947175_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_geforce_gtx_1070_7673_marks

 

Not so much of Global points with the old but got a few HW points. 

[Ashtrix]

On 3/7/2022 at 9:44 AM, Papusan said:

Finally ranked #1 in Norway🙂 https://hwbot.org/user/papusan/

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945819_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_1070_69625_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945864_papusan_3dmark05_geforce_gtx_1070_87480_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945819_papusan_3dmark06_geforce_gtx_1070_69625_marks

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/4945847_papusan_3dmark_vantage___performance_geforce_gtx_1070_91779_marks

 

 

 

Papu bro congrats on the Rank #1 Norway achievement 

 

https://i.imgur.com/WC9esPd.mp4

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Ashtrix said:

 

 

Yep Apple went too big unlike pathetic Intel but remember Intel wants BGA JUNK for their thin and light trash, Intel loves BGA more than anything because very high margins and high volume plus pathetic binning, vs LGA high binning standards on top gaming is the most important thing for Intel so 8P. While Apple is making this to simply have the damn PR command like always...😝

 

But this SOC is a disaster to me esp with my unhinged Apple hate. I will explain quickly and short.

 

 

 

Great read! The highlighted line above especially made me chuckle. 🙂

[ryan]

@Papusan I know some games benefit from higher clock speeds and core count matters but now that we have 8cores running above 2ghz it doesn't seem to make a difference, I just noticed this while disabling turbo and thinking ey my frames are still pretty high. sometimes common knowledge like cpu speed matters for high framerates can be wrong, I suppose the laptop world is different in that the 3090 would most likely benefit from a faster cpu but for laptops it seems pointless. heres crysis remastered a famously cpu bottlenecked game and the incredibly bottlenecked AOE3 maxed out running at 2.2ghz then 3.6ghz netting 8 negli framerates at above 130fps.   did I expect this?no . Why would I test it? to share my findings after noticing core count matters moreso than speed and CPUs are no longer the bottleneck, and I suspect this has been the case since they introduced the 6 core i7s.

 

 

and i'd like to add, I was excited about the 11800h and getting above 120fps and locking 144hz, in fact I paid more for the 11800h version of the omen. I had no idea the cpu would make 0 difference. does anyone know of a game that would benefit from a faster cpu at high-very high settings as no one buys a powerful laptop to game on low. perhaps an older game, so far iv'e tested cyberpunk/witcher 3/CR/and AOE3 those games were my best guess

 

edit.

 

I just found a game that benefits on lowering settings to high, I guess it does matter, but only in a couple games or if you don't want to run maxed settings, which I do hence why I got a 3060 after my 1060. if I wanted to game on high I would have just kept my 1060 laptop.

 

 

 

also I tested maxed out and their was no difference. just a cooler cpu with turbo off, I think my temps hit 51c. with turbo on they were at 90c

 

Conclusion, If you plan to max a game, disable turbo. If your planning on high refreshrate gaming test the game out and see if it needs the cpu power alot of games don't. and lastly, never assume a game will benefit from more cpu speed, often times its moot.

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, ryan said:

Conclusion, If you plan to max a game, disable turbo. If your planning on high refreshrate gaming test the game out and see if it needs the cpu power alot of games don't. and lastly, never assume a game will benefit from more cpu speed, often times its moot.

With today’s modern and disgusting laptop cooling you may benefits from disabling Cpu turbo boost in some games to let the graphics get better boost clocks. The damn Unified heatsink design can’t cool both the Cpu and graphics adequately in full load for both. And it help even more with a weaker graphics card(or very disgusting cooling). 

[Ashtrix]

Well well, AMD is having lockdown on X3D CPU. Utter shame if this is true.

 

AMD Asks Motherboard Makers to Remove Overclocking Options for Ryzen 7 5800X3D

 

Why is AMD going this route ? Is it that their X3D is not up to the mark standards of having a fully unlocked Silicon or is it that 3DV used for this single awful Gaming targeted CPU is not going to take more tuning as AMD spent very little time on tuning this chip, like not refine the the Microcode or make a new one specifically for this ? Probably both the cases.

 

A real shame to be honest, they castrated 100MHz of clocks on Base and Turbo and now no more Tweaking. What's the point in paying such money for this locked down BGA type or a barebone SI class OEM garbage processor SKU...

 

With this I'm pretty sure the IODie is still a mess probably (WHEA, USB, etc) and retuning the entire CPU along with the added cache stack on top along with more uncore tuning = money, R&D so AMD probably left the plan in the middle somewhere, so no more X3D refresh for whole stack, if they did that it would have fixed all issues of Ryzen 5000 series CPUs and made them completely bulletproof like Intel parts for the foreseeable future. Now have to deal with half-cooked meal. Truly bad move AMD. This is like Apple levels of BS.

 

Here's a thread from 20 days back from an AMD user with his experience of USB nightmare (from r/AMD) Unfortunate for that poor chap.

 

 

 

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Ashtrix said:

Well well, AMD is having lockdown on X3D CPU. Utter shame if this is true.

 

AMD Asks Motherboard Makers to Remove Overclocking Options for Ryzen 7 5800X3D

 

Why is AMD going this route ? Is it that their X3D is not up to the mark standards of having a fully unlocked Silicon or is it that 3DV used for this single awful Gaming targeted CPU is not going to take more tuning as AMD spent very little time on tuning this chip, like not refine the the Microcode or make a new one specifically for this ? Probably both the cases.

 

A real shame to be honest, they castrated 100MHz of clocks on Base and Turbo and now no more Tweaking. What's the point in paying such money for this locked down BGA type or a barebone SI class OEM garbage processor SKU...

 

With this I'm pretty sure the IODie is still a mess probably (WHEA, USB, etc) and retuning the entire CPU along with the added cache stack on top along with more uncore tuning = money, R&D so AMD probably left the plan in the middle somewhere, so no more X3D refresh for whole stack, if they did that it would have fixed all issues of Ryzen 5000 series CPUs and made them completely bulletproof like Intel parts for the foreseeable future. Now have to deal with half-cooked meal. Truly bad move AMD. This is like Apple levels of BS.

 

Here's a thread from 20 days back from an AMD user with his experience of USB nightmare (from r/AMD) Unfortunate for that poor chap.

 

 

 

 

If they purposely hinder any type of enthusiast overclocking it is a hard pass for me. I was going to pick one up and an inexpensive motherboard to play around with but this coupled with STILL existing USB issues makes this DOA IMHO.

 

 

[ryan]

an interesting find, looks like thermal throttling can have a bigger impact on performance than disabling turbo

 

heres 2.3ghz

heres 4.1ghz throttling

[Papusan]

On 2/14/2022 at 11:37 PM, Papusan said:

 

I just can't stand have Corsair ICUE installed. I have bought some 1-to-4 splitters. They had 3 packs of this one below in the web stores here home. Connect the PWM signal to MB fan headers and try make an fan profile in bios. Is there another software that can easly change fan speed on the go? I have Speed fan in top of my head but is there better options? Software that is click and run. Open the software, max out the fans and then disable the software again. Same for putting an fan profile, then disable the software. Click and go. 

ICUE is still damn disgusting. I don't have RGB so I don't need any of the Corsairs software to clutter up my pc. I don't want any software that I don't have any use for installed. Portable apps is what I always prefer. Turn on what you want then off and out of sight. Whats the best options for fan control? 

Yep, Nice seeing some people finally start pointing out what I have said the last decade. 

59 minutes ago, ryan said:

an interesting find, looks like thermal throttling can have a bigger impact on performance than disabling turbo

 

heres 2.3ghz

heres 4.1ghz throttling

Try the middle way. You shouldn't need to completely disable turbo boost. Test with different clock speed.

[Normimb]

On 3/4/2022 at 5:10 PM, Papusan said:

You mean you rented a car? I expect you know you don't fully own it😀 

 

You Don’t Really Ever Own an EV

Buying an electric vehicle is a lot like buying a subscription to a car. Almost no one can work on them except the manufacturer, features get locked behind in-app purchases or software updates, and those features can get disabled at the flip of a switch. If carmakers can dictate how you use your car, do you really even own it?

 

These days cars are like a smartphone or computer, constantly getting software and security updates, new features, and occasionally they’ll even lose features. Furthermore, those fancy features aren’t available to everyone who “buys” the car. Instead, you’ll have to buy in-app purchases to unlock those features.

 

Yep, todays modern cars is filled up with computers. Not so unlike real computers.  Hence the post fits in here, HaHa🙃

 

All, have a nice weekend.

SOOO true. I just hate how much we only rent everything we own and how we're so dépendent of their software update. You have no idea how much this frustrate me on a regular basis. My cell phone, computer, even my TV (samsung) trying to get me to subscribe to NETFLIX etc... (i hate netflix) Even new games you just purchased want's to sell you extra stuff. Seems all i buy is not mine but just borrow and somebody somewhere have more control over the stuff i bought then me. SOO FRUSTRATING. 

About the electric cars, i never saw it that way but your soo right. Hope it goes well (if not i'll sell it fast). Still i had enough of «Putins» oil.  This total idiot won't be getting any more of my money if i can have any control over it.

Take good care brother, be safe and thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[electrosoft]

Nice delid shootout of 12900k Stock lid vs Rockit Cool vs Custom DD piece I've never seen before but clearly works 

 

LM top and bottom

 

TL;DR: Stock lid was almost equal to RockitCool but DD was the winner far and away easily...

 

 

[electrosoft]

9 hours ago, Papusan said:

Yep, Nice seeing some people finally start pointing out what I have said the last decade. 

Try the middle way. You shouldn't need to completely disable turbo boost. Test with different clock speed.

 

I've reached a point where I install all the lighting effects and crud software on another drive I run separately just to set my themes / hardware then boot off my main for normal use. There is no way Asus should take that long to install basic software. Like Bit, I run RGBFusion when able versus their suite BS Gigabyte is now trying to force down users throats. EVGA software is pretty clean but the fact I used to have to run 4 different EVGA apps to control my items (Case, AIO, M/K and GPU) is just ridiculous but I do like the fact they don't cram an all in one solution down your throat. Unlike most of the other GPUs I used, my former KPE 3090 retained its settings even when it lost power and was completely uninstalled which was great. MSI Center isn't innocent either when I ran my Tomahawk x570. Crucial Ballistix software was beyond trash and had to be run everytime at start up to set the lighting.

 

Just bloatware garbage for something so simple as setting RGB effects.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Papusan]

9 hours ago, electrosoft said:

but the fact I used to have to run 4 different EVGA apps to control my items (Case, AIO, M/K and GPU) is just ridiculous but I do like the fact they don't cram an all in one solution down your throat.

Yep. better with several small packages so people can pick only the one they want. No need for etc RGB garbage if you only want an simple fan control. It seems bloat cancerware for desktops is equal bad as it is for the new modern Jokebooks. One package (all included) has to fits all 😞

9 hours ago, electrosoft said:

Just bloatware garbage for something so simple as setting RGB effects.

 

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Bump. The name is correct. But any suggestions on better quality kit? Thanks.

 

Is this the English name for this part below? PSU Cable Comb Kit? The one's that followed the Corsair package is hard and not very flexible. Probably the cheapest they could put with this Corsair 1000D chassis. Do you have a suggestion for something better than this cheapo garbage?

 

 

I see we can get Corsair Cables_ Cable Comb Kit_ Type 4 (Generation 4)_ Black here home. Why couldn't Corsair offer this kit instead for the stiff cheapo garbage in their premium chassis package? 

 

[Rage Set]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Yep. better with several small packages so people can pick only the one they want. No need for etc RGB garbage if you only want an simple fan control. It seems bloat cancerware for desktops is equal bad as it is for the new modern Jokebooks. One package (all included) has to fits all 😞

 

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Bump. The name is correct. But any suggestions on better quality kit? Thanks.

 

Is this the English name for this part below? PSU Cable Comb Kit? The one's that followed the Corsair package is hard and not very flexible. Probably the cheapest they could put with this Corsair 1000D chassis. Do you have a suggestion for something better than this cheapo garbage?

 

 

I see we can get Corsair Cables_ Cable Comb Kit_ Type 4 (Generation 4)_ Black here home. Why couldn't Corsair offer this kit instead for the stiff cheapo garbage in their premium chassis package? 

 

 

Cablemod has cable combs or you can find some cheap ones on eBay. I got cable combs when I got my custom cables from Cablemod 

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Yep. better with several small packages so people can pick only the one they want. No need for etc RGB garbage if you only want an simple fan control. It seems bloat cancerware for desktops is equal bad as it is for the new modern Jokebooks. One package (all included) has to fits all 😞

 

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Bump. The name is correct. But any suggestions on better quality kit? Thanks.

 

Is this the English name for this part below? PSU Cable Comb Kit? The one's that followed the Corsair package is hard and not very flexible. Probably the cheapest they could put with this Corsair 1000D chassis. Do you have a suggestion for something better than this cheapo garbage?

 

 

I see we can get Corsair Cables_ Cable Comb Kit_ Type 4 (Generation 4)_ Black here home. Why couldn't Corsair offer this kit instead for the stiff cheapo garbage in their premium chassis package? 

 

 

I've used numerous sets of cable combs from different vendors but they do come in various types from cheap and rigid to softer and better looking. You can even get different colors to spice up your RGB you love so much! 🙂