*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[electrosoft]

I'm officially abandoning 4x8GB on the Strix D4. Not only does it top out at 3600 somewhat reliably but I get worse R/W speeds and latency versus 2x8GB using the same timings. (58k vs 54k / 55 vs 54) no matter what I do. I also will get odd little delays and stutters and sometimes the system will hang and decide to use the XMP timings for no reason. I have none of these problems in a 2x8GB config @ 3600. If I drop down to 3200 they go away completely but what's the point of that? 4x configs pushed just aren't there and I'm finding even 3600 tight problematic.

 

On the plus side, CPU only pulls ~165w running CB23 after 1201 update:

 

 

[Papusan]

45 minutes ago, Rage Set said:

 

Cablemod has cable combs or you can find some cheap ones on eBay. I got cable combs when I got my custom cables from Cablemod 

Yep, and the cheapest one is probably better than the garbage I got with Corsair’s most expensive chassis. 

28 minutes ago, electrosoft said:

 

I've used numerous sets of cable combs from different vendors but they do come in various types from cheap and rigid to softer and better looking. You can even get different colors to spice up your RGB you love so much! 🙂

 

 

I’m sure you find some with RGB disaster. A lot people like bling bling in all shape and form nowadays. 

[Papusan]

On 3/9/2022 at 12:47 AM, Papusan said:

All of Intel's processors beginning with Haswell (launched in 2013) and extending to the latest Ice Lake-SP and Alder Lake are affected by the vulnerability, but Intel is about to release a software patch that will mitigate the issue.

Intel Alder Lake, ARM CPUs Affected by New Spectre Vulnerability

We can add in AMD into this beauty as well. 

 

Intel, AMD, Arm warn of new speculative execution CPU bugs bleepingcomputer.com | Today

 

Speculative execution trouble
The speculative execution technique is designed to optimize CPU performance by running some tasks in advance (branch prediction) so the information is available when required. 

Straight-line-speculation
In parallel news that coincide in disclosure, grsecurity has published the details and a PoC that can leak confidential data from AMD processors via a new straight-line-speculation (SLS) attack method.

 

This new variant of SLS affects many AMD chips based on the Zen1 and Zen2 microarchitectures, including EPYC, Ryzen Threadripper, and Ryzen with integrated Radeon Graphics.

AMD has published a list of the affected products and also a whitepaper that offers security advice for the medium-severity flaw tracked as CVE-2021-26341.

 

 

 

 

[ryan]

 

cyberpunk 2077 is the only game in my 37 years of gaming history that has lower performance after an update, are these guys freeking retarded? I used to average 25-32fps maxed now its 12-26fps

[ryan]

ok new post because its a different beast, but the i7 tenth gen scores 7300 in cinebench r23 this is my run with turbo disabled....notice the temp and performance

 

 

 

not sure why I cant double post when its completely different but ok

 

 

heres the best looking game out crysis remastered, nothing comes close

 

maxed no dlss

 

 

freeking 3060 115w is a utter beast literally. its similar to the desktop card whereas the 3080 isn't even close to desktop 3080

[ryan]

 

 

underclocked 1.5ghz still whoops a i7 10750h 7473 vs 9000

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-10750H-Processor-Benchmarks-and-Specs.452735.0.html

 

i think im just going to keep it at 3.5ghz as its good enough, too bad turdbooks can't cool and run 5ghz

 

 

also this is great news I found the peak!!!

 

when you run the i7 11800h at 3ghz its allows the gpu(3060) to run at max speed. and in the most bottlenecked game out of like 200-300 AAA games projects cars 2 performance actually increases over 4.6ghz im getting 176fps on high and before with 4.6ghz overclocked it was around 165fps

 

proof here

 

 

and you saw my old pictures

 

benchmarking however, not so pretty

 

 

8400 at these settings and thats with control panel maxed 8x aa

 

 

 

[Papusan]

The beauty lies in the details. Or rather say that the performance slide down the toilet. When shall Intel stop take short ways to increase the performance then take it back it few months later? How much time do you think they spend on new security patches/firmware updates? 

Intel CPUs Suffer Performance Hit From New Spectre-v2 Mitigations tomshardware.com

According to Phoronix's Core i9-12900K (Alder Lake) results, networking and storage performance went down the toilet after enabling Retpolines. The publication recorded a 26.7% performance loss on the former and 14.5% on the latter. That's the hallmark of these mitigations: Any external I/O from the chip takes a hard hit. Workloads like web browsing or image manipulation in GIMP didn't show a huge impact.

 

Even modern Intel CPUs are losing up to 36% performance with the new Spectre BHI patch

A new CPU exploit based on the infamous Spectre v2 has been discovered. However, when the security patch is applied it can affect performance by up to 36%, that's according to a recent study...

 

Have a nice weekend 🙂

 

 

https://hwbot.org/achievement/20909_

[ryan]

as per @Papusans recommendation I find 3ghz optimal. great thermals and performance mixture. heres my 11800h beating a i9 9880h with a huge underclock....meh it's a turdbook what do you expect just because it can doesn't mean it will

 

 

 

edit. man was the jump from 10th gen i7 to 11th gen huge and again to 12th gen....great news for high refresh rate gamers....I say this because with this massive underclock I beat a tenth gen i7 10750h

 

 

ok im back tested 3.5ghz had a max temp of 79 so its good....matched a i9 10980h cpu.....talk about epic

[Ashtrix]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

The beauty lies in the details. Or rather say that the performance slide down the toilet. When shall Intel stop take short ways to increase the performance? How much time do you think they spend on new security patches/firmware updates? 

Intel CPUs Suffer Performance Hit From New Spectre-v2 Mitigations tomshardware.com

According to Phoronix's Core i9-12900K (Alder Lake) results, networking and storage performance went down the toilet after enabling Retpolines. The publication recorded a 26.7% performance loss on the former and 14.5% on the latter. That's the hallmark of these mitigations: Any external I/O from the chip takes a hard hit. Workloads like web browsing or image manipulation in GIMP didn't show a huge impact.

 

Even modern Intel CPUs are losing up to 36% performance with the new Spectre BHI patch

A new CPU exploit based on the infamous Spectre v2 has been discovered. However, when the security patch is applied it can affect performance by up to 36%, that's according to a recent study...

 

Have a nice weekend 🙂

 

Papu bro, you know this right, we live in this world of nasty greed for power and corruption. Last week it was some Linux exploit for SU access for all Linux distros. Then before that we had bigger crap than this. To explain -  like the CPU CVEs we have most of them require the Physical Access, I think original Spectre from 2018 nuked performance from Haswell and up until Coffee Lake 9th gen and that's where they added new HW revision Stepping which hit ST performance. Then they added HW fixes to Comet Lake 10th gen. And now even 12th gen ADL is effected hard. But the Smartphone exploits are insane...These pathetic corporations always at play, check below content and video (must watch).

 

So yeah the bigger BS was Pegasus Spyware, you should read more about it. It was sponsored by CIA and MOSSAD, look at this Apple report itself it shows how State sponsored corporation allowed that to be born, Pegasus effected all Apple A series processors, they cite how Privacy is built in lmao while Apple is trying to crawl back at the issue, and so many people across the world got monitored and nobody even knows that they got hacked (Android users included). Unfortunate that how US Govt is now completely controlled unlike what Founding Fathers intended this Nation to be.

 

 

I won't bother with this BS Microcode nerf again, thankfully 10th gen BIOS is all done for, Z590 platform. As for Haswell, it's running great without any nasty performance reduction microcode. It will stay like that since I know how to manage things unlike the sheep normies.

 

But again, awful really. Intel should be ashamed of themselves, like see how every single damn vulnerability effects CPUs since Haswell era and previous Core 2 Quad other Nehalem / Westmere original Core designs do not have all this nonsense despite using literally same RING bus design.

 

As I was saying Core is very old not that old is bad, but they do not care for their own products, else why would they kill LGA1200 in such a miserable state ? or the LGA1700 ILM design flaw ? Intel is really pathetic corporation and now this type of thing forces those people who have that fear complex to rush and buy new CPU, probably anyone reading this would think I'm exaggerating, well let me explain esp look at any damn Android blog, you have these shill journos beating their chest how the old phone doesn't get new OS (they do not even mention 1/2 of the points I outlined here on how Android OS updates are like cancer itself). and how Updates are the most important thing in the world rather than OS poweruser features or having an OS behave like an OS not a damn social media consumption tool and no attention given to 3.5mm jack or the MicroSD slot which is very important to hold personal data and retain it after a disaster...

 

Ultimately Intel has to man up, this kind of nonsense is awful. AMD Ryzen 5000 are not effected by this new BHI CPU exploit (well they have their own BS of Firmware crap and unstable garbage HW).

 

 

[Papusan]

4 hours ago, Ashtrix said:

Ultimately Intel has to man up, this kind of nonsense is awful. AMD Ryzen 5000 are not effected by this new BHI CPU exploit (well they have their own BS of Firmware crap and unstable garbage HW).

Maybe Intel also could help AMD fix their never ending HW problems? 😀

 

Intel Finds Bug in AMD's Spectre Mitigation, AMD Issues Fix

News of a fresh Spectre BHB vulnerability that only impacts Intel and Arm processors emerged this week, but Intel's research around these new attack vectors unearthed another issue: One of the patches that AMD has used to fix the Spectre vulnerabilities has been broken since 2018. Intel's security team, STORM, found the issue with AMD's mitigation. In response, AMD has issued a security bulletin and updated its guidance to recommend using an alternative method to mitigate the Spectre vulnerabilities, thus repairing the issue anew.

[Tenoroon]

Tried to do some OCing on my 6700k as its 30F outside right now and I had some time to spend. I couldn't get the damn CPU to run faster than 4.1ghz because of some kind of throttling called RESIDENCY in Throttlestop. I was running the CPU at 1.45 volts with C-states both on and off with the ICC Max at 256. I'm still kind of a noob at this stuff, but I can't find anything on what RESIDENCY means in TS, does anyone here know?

 

[Mr. Fox]

Cinebench on Linux...

 

 

Linux OpenGL Performance

[Mr. Fox]

37 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

Tried to do some OCing on my 6700k as its 30F outside right now and I had some time to spend. I couldn't get the damn CPU to run faster than 4.1ghz because of some kind of throttling called RESIDENCY in Throttlestop. I was running the CPU at 1.45 volts with C-states both on and off with the ICC Max at 256. I'm still kind of a noob at this stuff, but I can't find anything on what RESIDENCY means in TS, does anyone here know?

 

Did you choose the "disable and lock turbo power limits" open in ThrottleStop? If not, do that. If you can disable C-states in the BIOS, do that. Residency has to do with power saving c/p states.

 

Your power limit is also a limiting factor. Set that to the maximum (4095). You can do that in the TPL page in ThrottleStop.

[Mr. Fox]

KDiskMark (Crystal Diskmark Linux clone) Benchmark

[Tenoroon]

57 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Did you choose the "disable and lock turbo power limits" open in ThrottleStop? If not, do that. If you can disable C-states in the BIOS, do that. Residency has to do with power saving c/p states.

 

Your power limit is also a limiting factor. Set that to the maximum (4095). You can do that in the TPL page in ThrottleStop.

Did both and I still have the residency problem...

[Mr. Fox]

8 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

Did both and I still have the residency problem...

Do you have a stock Clevo BIOS or an unlock BIOS (Prema or Dsanke)? If you do have an unlocked BIOS, try setting everything in the BIOS. 

 

I have some videos in my YouTube channel for ThrottleStop. They are old and there are some minor differences in ThrottleStop. You can try replicating some of the settings.

 

 

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

19 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

Did both and I still have the residency problem...

Also try clicking the button on ThrottleStop to "Turn On" because your settings may not be applied if you do not "turn on" ThrottleStop.

[Tenoroon]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Do you have a stock Clevo BIOS or an unlock BIOS (Prema or Dsanke)? If you do have an unlocked BIOS, try setting everything in the BIOS. 

 

I have some videos in my YouTube channel for ThrottleStop. They are old and there are some minor differences in ThrottleStop. You can try replicating some of the settings.

 

 

 

 

I'm using the Dsanke BIOS right now, I've been trying everything, but I'm not going inside until I fix this.

[johnksss]

A couple of runs on Windows 7.

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/14877419

Physics score second place for the time being.

https://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/3dmark+11+physics+score/version+1.0.132

[Tenoroon]

I couldn't push past 4.5ghz. I had it set as 4.7 in BIOS, had the voltage up in BIOS and everything seemed good, but TS just didn't want to up it. I probably just have TS configured wrong, but here's my final score. I was aiming for 1k, but I couldn't hit it sadly 😞

[Papusan]

8 hours ago, Tenoroon said:

I couldn't push past 4.5ghz. I had it set as 4.7 in BIOS, had the voltage up in BIOS and everything seemed good, but TS just didn't want to up it. I probably just have TS configured wrong, but here's my final score. I was aiming for 1k, but I couldn't hit it sadly 😞

Untick C1E and tick the Speed Shift box and change the value to 0. As well untick the box with more Data for normal use. What Cashe ratio do you put? And what clock speed do you see right after boot up without TS enabled? And yep, 4.5GHz should be enough for +1000 in Cinebench R15 🙂

 

Btw. The laptop jockey's will be heavily screwed when we will see 4000 series graphics pop up. It will be darn disgusting to see an 4080 at 85W TDP in tomorrows Apple designed laptops: 

 

Here's bro @Mr. Fox reaction when he see mobile 4080 graphics in laptops erly spring 2023

 

The weakest 4080 mobile graphics will get an TDP near 5.3 times lower than the similar desktop cards. But the laptop gamers will be happy regardless level of crippled mobile graphics cards vs. desktop cards. Design over functionality will always be the prefered choice. And Nvidia and the OEM will deliver in loads.

 

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090-class GPU with 600W TGP has reportedly been confirmed
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-class-gpu-with-600w-tgp-has-reportedly-been-confirmed

 

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The data harvest from the users systems seems to be out of control... For the interested. I put up an new forum thread All about "security and anti-virus software". Enjoy.
 

[Tenoroon]

I managed to get it to run at 4.7 inside my house, so I went outside and couldn't recreate it for some reason. In fact, it was worse than last night. I would set the CPU at a static 1.375 volts in the BIOS, it would fluctuate between 1.43-1.5, and it EDP throttled the whole time, even if I put the speeds to 3ghz. Residency problems still happened, and when I would run Cinebench R15 it would throttle to 2.7ghz. I seem to be doing something wrong but I cannot figure it out. Is the voltage too high? Are my TS settings still bad? Is the CPU too cold? I just can't get this thing to run how I want it, and I'm really starting to understand why you guys despise these laptops without Prema firmware. I mean no hate towards Dsanke, but jeez this BIOS is just, chaos. There's copies of settings and menu's everywhere, and some settings don't even work right as its just a backported P870TM BIOS.

I appreciate all of your help though, I really want this thing to not suck.
Here's my TS settings right before I gave up if anyone is able to help me:

[ryan]

@Papusanfermi all over again, we should not be suprised

[Papusan]

36 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

I managed to get it to run at 4.7 inside my house, so I went outside and couldn't recreate it for some reason. In fact, it was worse than last night. I would set the CPU at a static 1.375 volts in the BIOS, it would fluctuate between 1.43-1.5, and it EDP throttled the whole time, even if I put the speeds to 3ghz. Residency problems still happened, and when I would run Cinebench R15 it would throttle to 2.7ghz. I seem to be doing something wrong but I cannot figure it out. Is the voltage too high? Are my TS settings still bad? Is the CPU too cold? I just can't get this thing to run how I want it, and I'm really starting to understand why you guys despise these laptops without Prema firmware. I mean no hate towards Dsanke, but jeez this BIOS is just, chaos. There's copies of settings and menu's everywhere, and some settings don't even work right as its just a backported P870TM BIOS.

I appreciate all of your help though, I really want this thing to not suck.
Here's my TS settings right before I gave up if anyone is able to help me:

Please post pict also for TPL. And use higher resolution pict. Too small for my old eyes. Try adaptive voltage. Go from default and add offset if needed when you push clocks. Start with core ratio. You can work with cashe afterwards once you get some good results from the cores. Core is always king.

High Cashe ratio will give a performance boost if you run fast/faster ram sticks. Not so much with slow ram. You have voltage high enough for ++4.8GHz 🙂 

[Rage Set]

The 12900K is a hot chip. With my smaller MO-RA3 radiator, I am still hitting 100C straight away on certain cores. I am still dialing in the voltage for 51 P-cores/40 E-cores.