*Official Benchmark Thread* - Post it here or it didn't happen :D

[ryan]

we need a way of giving points.

[Papusan]

2 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes. I will get some HWBOT points for sure, though. AMD CPU and GPU overclocking is frustrating and stunted. I think on purpose.

Yep, there is a reason I always go with Nvida over AMD. And I would still go with nvidia even if AMD took the longest straw and come in front. Same also when I search after older cards. I have one AMD card out of 16+. Thats the only and lonely 7970 and it will still be alone together with all the nvidia cards in the cabinet shelf.

 

And this repeats itself also for processors. AMD have been in front of AMD before but I still will cling to Intel. And if AMD next time will be the best clocker I will continue with Intel. 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5225293_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_rtx_4090_167029_marks?recalculate=true

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

Yep, there is a reason I always go with Nvida over AMD.

Yes, same here. But, Brother @Rage Setwas kind enough to let me borrow this GPU and if I end up liking it, he will sell it to me. NVIDIA and Intel are always my first and best choices. But, there is a chance once I figure out how to make this GPU do what I want it to that it will be a keeper. Right now it is very buggy unless I run it stock. 

 

I can tell you that in something with ray tracing, the 3060 Ti FTW3 absolutely brutally rapes this 6900 XT. It's not even remotely close to the 3060 Ti in that scenario.

 

So, I ordered some acrylic polish to see if I can get the window on the DG-86 looking good (lots of scratches, which is common with acrylic, unfortunately). I've seen lots of reports of being able to make scratched acrylic look new or almost new.

[Papusan]

11 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

Yes, same here. But, Brother @Rage Setwas kind enough to let me borrow this GPU and if I end up liking it, he will sell it to me. NVIDIA and Intel are always my first and best choices. But, there is a chance once I figure out how to make this GPU do what I want it to that it will be a keeper.

 

I can tell you that in something with ray tracing, the 3060 Ti FTW3 absolutely brutally rapes this 6900 XT. It's not even remotely close to the 3060 Ti in that scenario.

I know. A very nice guest done of bro @Rage Set Have you figured out how to install Win 7 ?

 

If you could that I can see you may jump on the Radeon card. Have the option still enjoy Win 7 with modern hardware is worth a lot. 

 

And RT is trash on low end nviida cards. 6900XT would be a nice replacemet for your 3060 Ti in your workstation pc. Or the 2nd bench beast.

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Have you figured out how to install Win 7 ?

No, I have not. Hopefully, at some point I can figure it out.

 

I can boot into Windows 7 but the GPU will not start. It has code 12.

[Papusan]

1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said:

No, I have not. Hopefully, at some point I can figure it out.

 

I can boot into Windows 7 but the GPU will not start. It has code 12.

Hmmm. Did you try ask Chispy in Techpowerup/forum?

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5225331_papusan_gpupi___32b_geforce_rtx_4090_1min_17sec_299ms

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

Hmmm. Did you try ask Chispy in Techpowerup/forum?

I will when I have more time. I just have not had enough time to do everything I need to do lately.

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90833065 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5225335_

[Mr. Fox]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90833339 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5225336_

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90834107 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5225340_

 

[Tenoroon]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90833339 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5225336_

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90834107 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5225340_

 

I'm a bit out of the loop, but why does GPU-Z say 6950XT series? Did you flash a different vBIOS to the card is that just what GPU-Z reports despite you really having a 6900XT?

Also, nice scores, you have a lot more potential 🙂

[Mr. Fox]

29 minutes ago, Tenoroon said:

I'm a bit out of the loop, but why does GPU-Z say 6950XT series? Did you flash a different vBIOS to the card is that just what GPU-Z reports despite you really having a 6900XT?

Also, nice scores, you have a lot more potential 🙂

Thank you. 

 

No idea why. I am thinking a driver bug. I remember seeing the same thing years ago with AMD cards in Alienware laptops. You could not go by the name that appeared. You had to go by shader count.

 

Another bug that has surfaced, and I can replicate, is if I submit a Time Spy score from the URL that says "Submit to HWBOT" the data sent by UL identifies the GPU as a 6800 XT, even though the description seen at the URL correctly identifies it as a 6900 XT. 

[ssj92]

Some more updates on the PTM7950. I applied it to my 920XM CPU. Beats IC Diamond easily. 

 

IC Diamond reached 89-92C max temps when overclocked to 3.7Ghz (stock 2.26Ghz). 

PTM7950 reaches low-mid 80s max temps when overclocked to 3.7Ghz (stock 2.26Ghz). 

 

 

My 2960XM is hitting 100C at 3.7Ghz right now in my other laptop. Will put PTM7950 on PU & SLI GPUs and report back when I do. Plan to do at least 4Ghz on this one and I think PTM7950 will easily allow that. 

 

So far for laptops this is the best stuff next to liquid metal without any hassle of needing to create a barrier. 

[Papusan]

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

Thank you. 

 

No idea why. I am thinking a driver bug. I remember seeing the same thing years ago with AMD cards in Alienware laptops. You could not go by the name that appeared. You had to go by shader count.

 

Another bug that has surfaced, and I can replicate, is if I submit a Time Spy score from the URL that says "Submit to HWBOT" the data sent by UL identifies the GPU as a 6800 XT, even though the description seen at the URL correctly identifies it as a 6900 XT. 

Here is another Joke from AMD... 

The flagship AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX fell short of GeForce RTX 4090 performance tweaktown.com

 

The duo notes that it would have been possible to release a Radeon RX 7000 GPU with specs and performance that could compete with NVIDIA on the high-end, but this would push power to the 600W region. Not to mention raise the price to similar RTX 4090-like levels of USD 1600.

 

"We have chosen not to adopt such a strategy after considering whether it will be accepted by ordinary PC gaming fans," AMD's Rick Bergman says.

 

"We are focusing on GPUs that balance performance and cost" and fit within the $1000 class," AMD's Rick Bergman adds.

 

In short... AMD are focusing on costs. In better words.... Maximizing profits!! How can they know what the gamers want? Have they asked them? Maybe our old friend Frank Azor, told AMD shareholders what the gamers want? He should know.... Because he is the Chief Architect of Gaming Solutions at AMD. Yep, there we have it.

 

Edit. 

And AMD is very concerned that the average Gamer Joe's or the Entusiasts PC boxes is too small. Nice. They think on everything 🙂

 

We take this strategy to fit into the mainstream infrastructure (hardware environment) utilized by today's PC gaming enthusiasts. At the same time as demanding high performance, it should be possible to operate with an existing "common sense" power supply unit, be able to cool the inside of the case "be installed without requiring an extremely large case." ――The Radeon RX high-end product group was designed with these in mind."

 

In the semiconductor business, we must constantly assess the trade-off between "performance" and "manufacturing cost". 

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5225293_papusan_3dmark___sky_diver_geforce_rtx_4090_167029_marks

 

 

[Mr. Fox]

2 hours ago, Papusan said:

In short... AMD are focusing on costs. In better words.... Maximizing profits!! How can they know what the gamers want? Have they asked them? Maybe our old friend Frank Azor, told AMD shareholders what the gamers want? He should know.... Because he is the Chief Architect of Gaming Solutions at AMD. Yep, there we have it.

[electrosoft]

How to make the 7800X3D look as best as possible against a 13900k.....

 

"What may be important to note is that both the 7800X3D and 13900K systems were equipped with the same DDR5-6000 memory kit."

 

/facepalm

 

 

[electrosoft]

I know they have switched to sending out cheaper, single rank, poor secondary timing sticks now mostly vs their original god tier PnP sticks for DDR4, but I took a chance and picked up a set of OLOY sticks and scored a set of their original monsters:

 

DDR4 3200 SODIMMS

 

Testing OLOY 2x16GB sticks vs the former king of PnP sticks Kingston Impact 2x16GB sticks in an NH55:

 

OLOY:

 

 

 

IMPACT:

 

 

[ryan]

I can give you a copy of aida, I noticed you have demo. It can be found for 2 bucks on g2a.com

https://www.g2a.com/aida64-extreme-aida64-key-global-i10000049796001

ok 8-13 bucks cad

[electrosoft]

4 minutes ago, ryan said:

I can give you a copy of aida, I noticed you have demo. It can be found for 2 bucks on g2a.com

https://www.g2a.com/aida64-extreme-aida64-key-global-i10000049796001

ok 8-13 bucks cad

 

I use demo/trials of just about everything. I'm just too darn cheap to unhinge the wallet. For example, I ran the demo of 3Dmark forever until they ran a 1.99 special one time to unlock everything a few years ago. 🙂

 

 

[Papusan]

3 hours ago, ryan said:

I can give you a copy of aida, I noticed you have demo. It can be found for 2 bucks on g2a.com

https://www.g2a.com/aida64-extreme-aida64-key-global-i10000049796001

ok 8-13 bucks cad

A good advice. Remember blacklist the exe in the outgoing rules for your firewall. Always try do that if you bought software keys in the grey market 🙂

 

Intel recommends “4 Spring” 12VHPWR power plug instead “3 Dimple” design videocardz.com

 

 

6 hours ago, Papusan said:

"We are focusing on GPUs that balance performance and cost" and fit within the $1000 class," AMD's Rick Bergman adds.

 

In short... AMD are focusing on costs. In better words.... Maximizing profits!! How can they know what the gamers want? Have they asked them? Maybe our old friend Frank Azor, told AMD shareholders what the gamers want? He should know.... Because he is the Chief Architect of Gaming Solutions at AMD. Yep, there we have it.

 

We take this strategy to fit into the mainstream infrastructure (hardware environment) utilized by today's PC gaming enthusiasts. At the same time as demanding high performance, it should be possible to operate with an existing "common sense" power supply unit, be able to cool the inside of the case "be installed without requiring an extremely large case." ――The Radeon RX high-end product group was designed with these in mind."

This is bad news for those that prefer Nvidia. This just show that AMD don't want to compete and Nvidia can continue to charge over-price for their gaming flagship. They can do that, because there is no competition in high-end. So in short... This is rally sad news for both the nvidia and the AMD fanboys.

[ryan]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

A good advice. Remember blacklist the exe in the outgoing rules for your firewall. Always try do that if you bought software keys in the grey market 🙂

 

thanks for that. yes im careful..gotta watch out for the boys in blue when it comes to sketchy commerce

[Mr. Fox]

On 3/9/2023 at 12:40 PM, Mr. Fox said:

Compute performance is really good and impressive on this GPU, but ray tracing not so much. Look at the FPS with ray tracing enabled. It stress the GPU severely. I ran Bright Memory Infinite benchmark and only sitting on the benchmark menu and not running the benchmark the hotspot rose to 90°. Without ray tracing the temps are definitely lower and the frames much higher.

 

This is not new information, but this is interesting to look at relating to ray tracing with AMD. These are old screenshots that I had not deleted. It is not a complete set of matching options, just random screenshots taken with no plan to ever put them side-by-side... but still interesting.

 

6900 XT - 1080p RTX: High

6900 XT - 1440p RTX: High

3060 Ti - 1080p - RTX: High - DLSS: Off

3060 Ti - 1080p - RTX: High

3060 Ti - 1080p - RTX: High - DLSS: Quality

2080 Ti - 1080p - RTX: High

2080 Ti - 1440p - RTX: High

3090 - 1080p - RTX: High - DLSS Off

3090 - 1080p - RTX: High

3090 - 1080p - RTX: Very High

4090 - 1080p - RTX: Very High - DLSS off

 

 

[ryan]

1080p default high/performance dlss

 

 

I honestly can't believe the 6900xt is close to the 3060 laptop in some situations. 

 

 

everyone knows the best gpu and cpu on earth is the 11800h and 3060 😛 lol

 

Man I wish I had a 6900xt or even a 3060ti

[Mr. Fox]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90902010 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5226275_

 MrFox`s 3DMark - Fire Strike score: 57492 marks with a Radeon RX 6900 XT

HWBOT.ORG

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The Radeon RX 6900 XT @ 2850/2200MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Fire Strike benchmark. MrFoxranks #null worldwide and #8 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

[Rage Set]

4 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90902010 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5226275_

 MrFox`s 3DMark - Fire Strike score: 57492 marks with a Radeon RX 6900 XT

HWBOT.ORG

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The Radeon RX 6900 XT @ 2850/2200MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Fire Strike benchmark. MrFoxranks #null worldwide and #8 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

 

I love how you are beating the majority of 3090/Ti's with that card. If only AMD put the same effort into ray-tracing that they did with rasterization. 

[Papusan]

19 hours ago, ryan said:

thanks for that. yes im careful..gotta watch out for the boys in blue Redmond when it comes to sketchy commerce

Also watch out on Microsofts new low below. They continue improve their fantastic OS and features.

 

I just love the way Microsoft do things. But I and you bro @Mr. Foxalready know this. Yet another reason get rid of Windows Defender. One of many. Whats next? Use the GPU for Telemetry and Data harvesting? Oh' nope... They already do that😎

 

Interesting video. 75% of the 4090 is worse made than the 4090 FE from Nvidia. Yep, you can get a decent o'clocker (the lottery is real) but getting a worse cards with cheaper and fewer components on the PCB for same high MSRP or above than the vanilla 4090 from nvidia is pretty sad. The AIB partner kill themsel with this cheapo move. They don't need help from Nvidia to get rid of themself as a graphics card manufacturer. They are fully able to do it themselves.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5226152_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_20324_marks

5 hours ago, Mr. Fox said:

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/90902010 | https://hwbot.org/submission/5226275_

 MrFox`s 3DMark - Fire Strike score: 57492 marks with a Radeon RX 6900 XT

HWBOT.ORG

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The Radeon RX 6900 XT @ 2850/2200MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the 3DMark - Fire Strike benchmark. MrFoxranks #null worldwide and #8 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

Nice results bro Fox 🙂 Does the 6900XT grow on you?

[Rage Set]

16 minutes ago, Papusan said:

Also watch out on Microsofts new low. They continue improve their fantastic OS and features.

 

I just love the way Microsoft do things. But I and you bro @Mr. Foxalready know this. Yet another reason get rid of Windows Defender. One of many. Whats next? Use the GPU for Telemetry and Data harvesting? Oh' nope... They already do that😎

 

Interesting video. 75% of the 4090 is worse made than the 4090 FE from Nvidia. Yep, you can get a decent o'clocker but getting a worse cards with cheaper and fewer components on the PCB than the vanilla 4090 from nvidia is pretty sad. The AIB partner kill themsel with this cheapo move. They don't need help from Nvidia to get rid of themself as a graphics card manufacturer. They are fully able to do it themselves.

 

https://hwbot.org/submission/5226152_papusan_3dmark___time_spy_extreme_geforce_rtx_4090_20324_marks

Nice results bro Fox 🙂 Does the 6900XT grow on you?

 

I loaned him the card so he could see both sides, but it is likely a short excursion and not a permanent trip. I would like to see him test it in Linux.