Tenoroon Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Cheers from California everyone! It's a lot different from Tennessee, but pretty nice, I'm not used to seeing mountains everywhere I look. I brought my G14 with me on this trip as I didn't want to deal with the P870 on the plane. This is the most I have really used this thing ever, but I've come to realize how annoying and broken Armory Crate is. Is there any alternative that can be used to control fan speeds for ASUS motherboards? I hate this software with a burning passion, but I have to use it to control fan speed the way I want to. I've looked and looked for alternatives, but can't find anything, and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. On a side note, here are some pictures I have taken. I'm not too happy with them due to the horrendous lighting, but I look forward to getting some nicer ones as I make my through Monterey. Spoiler 5 1 2 Clevo P870TM-G: Core i7 8700k @ 4.8ghz | Clevo RTX 2070 Super | 32gb HyperX DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 17" 1440p 120hz B173QTN01.0 Screen | 256gb Samsung 850 EVO | 500gb WD Blue SSD | Prema BIOS Alienware 17 R1: Core i7 4710mq @ 3.619ghz 741 CBR15 (834 CBR15 @ 4.213ghz) | Dell GTX 860m | 16gb HyperX DDR3L @ 2133mhz | 17" 3D 120hz LTN173HT02-T01 Screen | 256gb mSATA SSD Asus Zephyrus G14: Ryzen 7 4800hs @ 4.2ghz | GTX 1650 | 16gb DDR4 @ 3200mhz | 14" 120hz LM140LF1F01 Screen | 512gb NVME SSD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Papusan said: Unhinged Rant About Motherboards... 11:20 - The Wrong Features - Gamers Nexus 13:02 - ASUS MALWARE TANGENT RANT - Gamers Nexus His rants are some of my favorite. I love his style of mocking trash in a level-headed way. And, he is usually correct. It's nice to see someone of Steve's stature on YouTube openly calling Armory Crate malware. I have always said that. Because it is. Based on how it functions, it is malware. The sheeple that gobble up this rubbish are brainwashed imbeciles. The brainwashing includes the idiotic and nonsensical branding propaganda plastered on the overpriced parts they buy. Jufes, the socially retarded potty-mouth a-hole, has a crude new rant that I totally agree with; ripping AMD a new one for their newest broken doggy poop CPU that Linus finally dared to call out for being a piece of trash. I also like his calling out Mr. Shill himself, Gordon My Dung, for pretending it isn't because he is a heiney-kissing fake reviewer. Linus deserves credit for being honest and calling it garbage and Jufes gives him credit for it between his episodes of self-aggrandizing back-pats and told-ya-sos. 4 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electrosoft Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Papusan said: If they have removed some of the modern garbage bling bling they prefer put all over the board (they use it to attract the kiddos), they could retract the the awful price increase and put prices to before the inflation started raise. And stop put the blame on more expensive manufacturing of vital components as signaling. Greed in combination with stupidity is a main driving factor for where we are today. Remove that fancy aRGB trash + malware software, then focus on quality, useful features and put the prices where they should be. We see the same also happen for etc AIOs. More fancy trash added to the product to push up the prices. Unhinged Rant About Motherboards... 11:20 - The Wrong Features - Gamers Nexus 13:02 - ASUS MALWARE TANGENT RANT - Gamers Nexus Edit. I checked different boards for a normal price for my son. Almost none of the boards had debug-code display. Almost all MB costed double the price vs what I and him wanted to pay. So in the end I bougt the Gigabyte Z690 AORUS PRO. 50% of what I had to pay for a Asus board with same features. The damn bling bling push the cost minimum 30% over what it has to cost. The biggest slap in the face is early BIOS revisions for my Z690 D4 once you set the RGB for the motherboard it was set and you could uninstall Armory Crate and/or do a clean install and it stayed fix. Even if it lost mains, the cmos battery kept the settings. Now? With a BIOS update and all subsequent BIOS updates, now it never stays set and requires software to set it each and every time. This is targeted and malicious. Luckily OpenRGB will set it so I use that to set the color on boot. Armory Crate will never touch this system. Same problem with the Strix G18. Any meaningful RGB settings require Armory Crate which is just malware trash for Asus to monetize. 3 2 Electrosoft Prime: SP109 14900KS | Asrock Z790i Lightning | MSI Suprim X Liquid 4090 | AC LF II 420 | TG 2x16GB 8200 | Samsung 990 Pro 2TB | EVGA 1600w P2 | Phanteks Ethroo Pro | Alienware AW3225QF 32" OLED Heath: i9-12900k | EVGA CLC 280 | Asus Strix Z690 D4 | Asus Strix 3080 | 32GB DDR4 2x16GB B-Die 4000 | WD Black SN850 512GB | EVGA DG-77 | Samsung G7 32" 144hz 32" My for sale items on eBay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 38 minutes ago, electrosoft said: Luckily OpenRGB will set it so I use that to set the color on boot. Armory Crate will never touch this system. Same problem with the Strix G18. Any meaningful RGB settings require Armory Crate which is just malware trash for Asus to monetize. Their slogan is quite spot on.... Armoury-Crate | US | For Those Who Dare - ROG - ASUS ASUS Armory Crate, the worst software in the industry If I remember correctly... The settings for Armoury-Crate in bios is toggled to Enabled after very single bios flash. This is just Stupid. Then you have this. Not sure if Asus still do it the same way. I have never checked. So once again, darn stupid. I would never ever install bloat to get free "paid by Asus" software. Aida64 is a nice software. But I rather pay for it than have to install bloatware to get it. https://forums.aida64.com/topic/7539-asus-maximus-hero-xiii-comes-with-prepaid-aida-64-one-year/ 3 2 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Installed a totally gutted version of the Cancer OS to see if it benches better. No Defender (except firewall), no Windows Security components, no Windows Update. So far, no nonsense. Bykski block should be delivered tomorrow for the 4090 Suprim. 5 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: Installed a totally gutted version of the Cancer OS to see if it benches better. No Defender (except firewall), no Windows Security components, no Windows Update. So far, no nonsense. Bykski block should be delivered tomorrow for the 4090 Suprim. You still have those disgusting wallpapers. A really Puke-o-ramaSee the darker pastel blue colors from the "flowers" match the puking heads😆 1 1 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, Papusan said: You still have those disgusting wallpapers. A really Puke-o-ramaSee the darker pastel blue colors match the puking heads😆 😝I literally just installed it, LOL. Haven't performed my UI customization yet, other than switching from drywall vomit light to tolerable dark. 🤣 But, it has StartAllBack integrated, so that was already done. I haven't even launched ESO yet and already only 60 processes. 1 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 25 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said: 😝I literally just installed it, LOL. Haven't performed my UI customization yet, other than switching from vomit light to dark. 🤣 But, it has StartAllBack integrated, so that was already done. Here. If you don't have it all.... Windows 11 Wallpaper 4K, Dark Mode, Blue, Stock ... But be sure you have a Barf Bucket ready. I already sent you a dark Purple one a few days ago. So you are well covered my friend😎 So please, don't mess up your KB😆 Or just use my gift from my erlier post... 1 3 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Papusan said: Here. If you don't have it all.... Windows 11 Wallpaper 4K, Dark Mode, Blue, Stock ... But be sure you have a Barf Bucket ready. I already sent you a dark Purple one a few days ago. So you are well covered my friend😎 So please, don't mess up your KB😆 The purple one compliments my Little Mermaid icon pack. 2 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 14 hours ago, tps3443 said: Does Hwbot block PM’s or replies to FS post if you don’t have very many post on your account? There is a Z690 Apex for sale but I do not see an option to respond to the post. I sent him a PM. But I’m not even sure he got it. Could someone message him for me? He has a 2022 Apex Z690 for $300 euros. Okay, I see why it's 300. It's missing all the heatsinks. 2 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 265K ~ MSI 4090 Suprim X ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tps3443 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, johnksss said: Okay, I see why it's 300. It's missing all the heatsinks. Yeah, I really want it though! It’s a 2022 model with great memory overclocking and it’d be primarily for just cpu SP/VID checking. I PM’d the seller yesterday, no response. 13900KF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, tps3443 said: Yeah, I really want it though! It’s a 2022 model with great memory overclocking and it’d be primarily for just cpu SP/VID checking. I PM’d the seller yesterday, no response. Yeah, that's Alex Ro...that guy is kind of on the busy side of things. Had it had the heatsinks I might have jumped on that deal. Edit: I posted over there... 1 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 265K ~ MSI 4090 Suprim X ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj92 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Ugh just realized I need benchmate for the bot, here's a nice score. Still with 4800mhz ram 1 hour ago, Tenoroon said: Cheers from California everyone! It's a lot different from Tennessee, but pretty nice, I'm not used to seeing mountains everywhere I look. I brought my G14 with me on this trip as I didn't want to deal with the P870 on the plane. This is the most I have really used this thing ever, but I've come to realize how annoying and broken Armory Crate is. Is there any alternative that can be used to control fan speeds for ASUS motherboards? I hate this software with a burning passion, but I have to use it to control fan speed the way I want to. I've looked and looked for alternatives, but can't find anything, and I know I'm not the only one who feels this way. On a side note, here are some pictures I have taken. I'm not too happy with them due to the horrendous lighting, but I look forward to getting some nicer ones as I make my through Monterey. Reveal hidden contents Monterey is 2 hrs away from me lol 3 Alienware m18 : Intel Core i9 13900HX @ 5.0Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080 | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ Alienware M18x R2 : Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO Alienware 18 : Intel Core i7 4930MX @ 4.5Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 5000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 NVMe More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (RTX 5000) DT: Aurora R4 (i9 10980XE/RTX 4070) | Area-51 R2 (22-Core Xeon/Titan V) | SR-2 [2x6-Core/3x980Ti] | CS Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CSStudiosYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, ssj92 said: Ugh just realized I need benchmate for the bot, here's a nice score. Still with 4800mhz ram Monterey is 2 hrs away from me lol You will gain far more over clocking the "Baby Cores" or E-Cores rather than memory over clocking. 4 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 265K ~ MSI 4090 Suprim X ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj92 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, johnksss said: You will gain far more over clocking the "Baby Cores" or E-Cores rather than memory over clocking. It's a stock run. Trying to get stock performance working properly, then I'll try OC As for memory my new 5600mhz sticks don't boot. A few people claim it's working for them, so I am getting replacement sticks just in case mine were bad. 2 Alienware m18 : Intel Core i9 13900HX @ 5.0Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080 | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ Alienware M18x R2 : Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO Alienware 18 : Intel Core i7 4930MX @ 4.5Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 5000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 NVMe More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (RTX 5000) DT: Aurora R4 (i9 10980XE/RTX 4070) | Area-51 R2 (22-Core Xeon/Titan V) | SR-2 [2x6-Core/3x980Ti] | CS Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CSStudiosYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 10:29 PM, ssj92 said: Question on RAM... Will DDR5 5600Mhz CL40 make a nice difference over 4800Mhz CL40 on 13th gen? Looking at timespy/fire strike cpu score, cinebench r23, etc. I mean I already ordered the RAM LOL just was curious BTW how is everyone getting windows 7 working on 13th gen? Is it just turning on CSM? I would assume drivers aren't easily available. I should have quoted this post. 6 minutes ago, ssj92 said: It's a stock run. Trying to get stock performance working properly, then I'll try OC As for memory my new 5600mhz sticks don't boot. A few people claim it's working for them, so I am getting replacement sticks just in case mine were bad. Yep, I can see it was ran stock. Well, sort of stock. Maybe under stock. 2 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 265K ~ MSI 4090 Suprim X ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssj92 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, johnksss said: I should have quoted this post. Yep, I can see it was ran stock. Well, sort of stock. Maybe under stock. Unfortunately some of the cpu cores are overheating so the score is still low. Need to repaste with something like ptm7950 to fix the core differentials of 10c. 2 Alienware m18 : Intel Core i9 13900HX @ 5.0Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 4090 | K1675 | 2x1TB SSDs Alienware Area-51M : Intel Core i9-9900K @ 5.3Ghz | nVidia GeForce RTX 2080 | AX210 | Samsung 970 Evo+ Alienware M18x R2 : Intel Core i7 3920XM @ 4.7Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 3000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 PRO Alienware 18 : Intel Core i7 4930MX @ 4.5Ghz | nVidia Quadro RTX 5000 | AX210 | Samsung 980 NVMe More Laps: M14x (555m) | M14xR2 (650m) | M15x (980m) | M17xR3 (880m) | M18xR1 (RTX 5000) DT: Aurora R4 (i9 10980XE/RTX 4070) | Area-51 R2 (22-Core Xeon/Titan V) | SR-2 [2x6-Core/3x980Ti] | CS Studios YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/CSStudiosYT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rengsey R. H. Jr. Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. Fox said: Installed a totally gutted version of the Cancer OS to see if it benches better. No Defender (except firewall), no Windows Security components, no Windows Update. So far, no nonsense. Bykski block should be delivered tomorrow for the 4090 Suprim. Where can i find this guutted cancered OS youu uare talking about? Puurple is my favorite color too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, ssj92 said: Unfortunately some of the cpu cores are overheating so the score is still low. Need to repaste with something like ptm7950 to fix the core differentials of 10c. That might be a tough one to crack. Even under my SS I think there is still close to a 10C difference between cores. 1 2 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 265K ~ MSI 4090 Suprim X ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 37 minutes ago, johnksss said: That might be a tough one to crack. Even under my SS I think there is still close to a 10C difference between cores. Isn't it 1 P-core that often run colder than rest of the P-cores? On the new modern AW I see all with boiling temps have one with at least 10C above the rest. But I don't remember if there is the same core that have this on the few I have seen. Here's the 18 inch modern slim beauty from Dell..... Final conclution from 1:02.20 - Reset bios back to factory settings and send it back to Dell Alienware, LOOL Why He needed near 2 hours for a simple review, I don't know. 4 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnksss Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 26 minutes ago, Papusan said: Isn't it 1 P-core that often run colder than rest of the P-cores? On the new modern AW I see all with boiling temps have one with at least 10C above the rest. But I don't remember if there is the same core that have this on the few I have seen. Here's the 18 inch modern slim beauty from Dell..... Final conclution from 1:02.20 - Reset bios back to factory settings and send it back to Dell Alienware, LOOL Why He needed near 2 hours for a simple review, I don't know. Yes, I do believe you are correct. I'll take a closer look next time I fire it up. Edit: I think SSJ92 needs to go show him a thing or 2 as his seems to be way more than that guys attempt. 3 Maximus Z890 Apex ~ 265K ~ MSI 4090 Suprim X ~ G.Skill Trident Z5 8400 Mhz ~ 4TB Samsung 990 Pro ~ MSI-Ai1300P PSU ~ MAG 321URX QD-OLED 32" ~ AACH100HP Water Chiller ~ Praxis Wet Bench Flat MSI MEG X570S Unify-X MAX ~ 5950X ~ GTX 1070 ~ G.Skill 3200 Mhz ~ 500GB Samsung 980 Pro ~ Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO Tempered Glass ~ Thermaltake 650W ~ Hwbot Profile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etern4l Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Just reordered the tried and true Z690 board at 40% discount from Amazon. Pretty much the same performance and features as the Z790 model when it comes to handling 4 2R SODiMM config, and zero risk of compatibility issues with the newer chipset. Heavily discounted means £400 lol Thanks for all the inflation Vlad BTW. Will then get a chance to get in touch with MSI support about the socket replacement. Will get a chance to see what @Mr. Fox has been raving about lol 6 "We're rushing towards a cliff, but the closer we get, the more scenic the views are." -- Max Tegmark AI: Major Emerging Existential Threat To Humanity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papusan Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 The cards with the weaker power delivery have much higher power spikes. They just can't handle the higher power equal good. Flashed from 450W to the 500W vbios from the OC verion of Palit 4090 Gamerock card and the power reached spikes above 660W. Yep, sometimes ou get what you pay for. Cheaper come at a price. Even worse cost cutting than the FE model from Nvidia. And Buildziod have a breakdown on the more expensive OC verion of Palit 4090 Gamerock card. In short a horrible 4090 graphics card. 5 "The Killer" ASUS ROG Z790 Apex Encore | 14900KS | 4090 HOF + 20 other graphics cards | 32GB DDR5 | Be Quiet! Dark Power Pro 12 - 1500 Watt | Second PSU - Cooler Master V750 SFX Gold 750W (For total of 2250W Power) | Corsair Obsidian 1000D | Custom Cooling | Asus ROG Strix XG27AQ 27" Monitors | Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT | Papusan @ YouTube Channel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Gizmo tech reviews tend to be shallow. I think the odd time he's ok. But I would never reference his reviews as it takes him hours to express his thoughts. Kinda like a bird discussion on gravity. More on topic I'm strongly thinking of buying a desktop as I was hunting for a 4090 laptop and found the price was not worth the gains. I really think we are in a rut video game wise, very few good games are being released and when a AAA game does get released it's just like the industry is sprinkling 1 good game out of a desert 🏜️ of bad games. Really sad times for the younger generation. 4 ZEUS-COMING SOON Omen 16 2021 Zenbook 14 oled Vivobook 15x oled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fox Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 6 hours ago, Rengsey R. H. Jr. said: Where can i find this guutted cancered OS youu uare talking about? Puurple is my favorite color too. Oprekin.com in the "private builds" thread. Even Windows setup has a lot of the idiot option screens scripted into oblivion. Select keyboard, input username and password, and done. Roughly half as much worthless garbage processes running on a clean install before any tweaks... even less than Windows 7. Certainly not as good as Windows 7, but the best wPrime 32M score I have ever seen on Windoze 8/10/11. I was being facetious about the color thing. My favorite colors are black and white, with chrome accents, but those are not colors, so I digress. 1 hour ago, ryan said: Gizmo tech reviews tend to be shallow. I think the odd time he's ok. But I would never reference his reviews as it takes him hours to express his thoughts. Kinda like a bird discussion on gravity. More on topic I'm strongly thinking of buying a desktop as I was hunting for a 4090 laptop and found the price was not worth the gains. I really think we are in a rut video game wise, very few good games are being released and when a AAA game does get released it's just like the industry is sprinkling 1 good game out of a desert 🏜️ of bad games. Really sad times for the younger generation. That new zombie shooter game that came with my 4090 is supposed to drop on Saturday. Don't remember the name of it. I can't tell from the trailers if I am going to like it, but it is open world so that alone is worth two demerits before you pass go. Based on my preferences, good games are very rare. I think some of the most popular releases suck. Having to temporarily install GeFarts Experience to redeem the code sucked. That cancer feces added about 1,200 registry keys and a couple dozen unnecessary processes. Revo Uninstaller is your feiend. Yeah, we're right in the middle of sad times for computer tech and gaming. Lots of worthless trash out there. 7 hours ago, johnksss said: You will gain far more over clocking the "Baby Cores" or E-Cores rather than memory over clocking. It really does a lot to raise the all-core average clock speed, and I have never seen mine get that hot. They seem to run cooler than the P-cores. 5 Wraith // Z790 Apex | 14900KS | 4090 Suprim X+Byksi Block | 48GB DDR5-8600 | Toughpower GF3 1650W | MO-RA3 360 | Hailea HC-500A || O11D XL EVO Banshee // X870E Carbon | 9950X | 4090 Gaming OC+Alphacool Block | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1200x SHIFT | XT45 1080 Nova || Antec C8 Spectre // Z790i Edge | 13900KS | 3090 Ti FTW3 | 32GB DDR5-8200 | RM1000e | EK Nucleus CR360 Direct Die || Prime A21 Half-Breed // Dell Precision 7720 | BGA CPU Filth+MXM Quadro P5000 | 4K Display | Sub-$500 Grade A Refurb | Nothing to Write Home About Mr. Fox YouTube Channel | Mr. Fox @ HWBOT The average response time for a 911 call is 10 minutes. The response time of a .357 is 1400 feet per second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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