Official Clevo X170SM-G Thread

[Snowleopard]

I think I am going to hold off on another laptop till DDR5 or DD6 is available, hopefully the X170SM-G will last me that long, and hopefully PCIE 5 will be out too. I heard something is already getting ready to replace M.2 NVMe's

Just for shits and Giggles I went to Apples website earlier and configured a Loaded Mac Pro desktop.... $48,950.  Then I reminded myself that I have an X170SM-G.  lol

[chih]

Hi there, there was a problem with the X170SM. The laptop was taken new in August, 2022, everything worked fine, but the day before yesterday the battery stopped charging. 

 

The learn of the problem found that two power supplies do not work at the same time. In other words, if you connect only one (any), then the battery power is turned on. BIOS and EC flashed new ones (XMG). Did a full BIOS reset. 

I tried different parameters in the unlocked BIOS, but there are no results. At this night, both power supplies were connected, but the battery did not charge.

 

Who has faced such a problem and how to solve it?

[jaybee83]

22 hours ago, ssj92 said:

If it has a 24-core 13900HX and a RTX 4090 Mobile then I’ll get it. I love the 18” form factor. I still have my M18xR1, M18xR2 and AW 18. 

 

im not getting the razer blade 18 as I’ve heard nothing but bad news regarding their quality/customer service. It’ll definitely be the alienware x18. If my x14 i got from black friday is any indication then I trust their 18 will be good. Every spec is sounding good from what I’ve heard 😉 just waiting to see if they put a subwoofer back in for audio. 

 

Every laptop next year is bga unless clevo releases a lga cpu + bga gpu 15” like they do sometimes. 
 

 

wouldnt that depend on what Nvidia might call a "4090 mobile"? we might end up with a 4070 chip that they just elevate to a 4090 cuz...theyre crazy like that 😄 

[ssj92]

1 hour ago, jaybee83 said:

 

wouldnt that depend on what Nvidia might call a "4090 mobile"? we might end up with a 4070 chip that they just elevate to a 4090 cuz...theyre crazy like that 😄 

4090 Mobile is based on 103 core so its based off of desktop 4080 at least 😉 

 

 

[Bidelloman]

On 12/10/2022 at 11:29 PM, ssj92 said:

I ended up with:

 

i5 10600K

8GB RAM

256GB SSD

1080p 144Hz display

RTX 2070 Super

 

I have 16GB RAM and 2x 512gb NVMe SSDs laying around I’ll add to the system. 
 

not looking to max it out since I wanna see what the 18” laptops coming out next year will pack. 

they won't pack full desktop level graphics cards, that's for sure.

[ssj92]

5 hours ago, joe4kyo said:

they won't pack full desktop level graphics cards, that's for sure.

RTX 30 series wasn't full desktop level graphics cards either. But 40 series will still be faster than 30 series. 

 

30 series was a joke on laptops. 

 

10/20 series was the best gen in terms of having performance closest to their desktop counterparts. 

[electrosoft]

2 minutes ago, ssj92 said:

RTX 30 series wasn't full desktop level graphics cards either. But 40 series will still be faster than 30 series. 

 

30 series was a joke on laptops. 

 

10/20 series was the best gen in terms of having performance closest to their desktop counterparts. 

 

So true.

 

3000 series barely beat the 2000 series as the 2000 series was the last true desktop equivalent on laptops. I don't think we'll ever see the 1:1 DTR days of Pascal and Turing.

 

But with the die shrink and much better power envelope of the 4000 series I expect a major leap in performance this time around even boxed into 150-200w.

 

 

[ssj92]

1 hour ago, electrosoft said:

 

So true.

 

3000 series barely beat the 2000 series as the 2000 series was the last true desktop equivalent on laptops. I don't think we'll ever see the 1:1 DTR days of Pascal and Turing.

 

But with the die shrink and much better power envelope of the 4000 series I expect a major leap in performance this time around even boxed into 150-200w.

 

 

Yeah it's quite sad. My 2080 in Area-51m gets over 27k fs stock gpu score. 3080 was around 30k stock. 10% increase. 2080 super in area-51m r2 was like 29k. 

 

We definitely won't see 10/20 level parity between notebook/desktop again 

 

on a side note my X170SM-G is coming tomorrow. Hope I made the right choice getting a cheaper new open box X170SM-G over a used pricier X170KM-G 

[Komputers-Best]

5 hours ago, ssj92 said:

on a side note my X170SM-G is coming tomorrow. Hope I made the right choice getting a cheaper new open box X170SM-G over a used pricier X170KM-G 

 

And what are the characteristics of your X170SM-G?

[electrosoft]

15 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Yeah it's quite sad. My 2080 in Area-51m gets over 27k fs stock gpu score. 3080 was around 30k stock. 10% increase. 2080 super in area-51m r2 was like 29k. 

 

We definitely won't see 10/20 level parity between notebook/desktop again 

 

on a side note my X170SM-G is coming tomorrow. Hope I made the right choice getting a cheaper new open box X170SM-G over a used pricier X170KM-G 

 

Overall the X170SM-G is less problematic and if you find a way has access to Prema. It can use the exact same array of GPUs as the KM.

 

Remember, X170KM-G was so problematic that Prema abandoned his BIOS development for it if that tells you anything.

 

 

[Bidelloman]

16 hours ago, ssj92 said:

RTX 30 series wasn't full desktop level graphics cards either. But 40 series will still be faster than 30 series. 

 

30 series was a joke on laptops. 

 

10/20 series was the best gen in terms of having performance closest to their desktop counterparts. 

smg, not kmg for a reason, so happy to have gone 2080s, it'll be quite a while before we get another chance I think

[NORD]

Hello everyone.I have a question, I wonder if the BIOS update from Dsankt will affect the installation of the unlocked Bios Prema? And another Question - does Prema Bios 11 support the Cpu series?

[ssj92]

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

Overall the X170SM-G is less problematic and if you find a way has access to Prema. It can use the exact same array of GPUs as the KM.

 

Remember, X170KM-G was so problematic that Prema abandoned his BIOS development for it if that tells you anything.

 

 

Got the beast! has style note bios even though I got it from zTecPC 😕 

 

Specs:

i7 10700K

8GB DDR4 3200Mhz (I have 16GB 2400Mhz laying around, may swap for this)

RTX 2070 Super 

1080p 144Hz Panel 

AX201 (Have a AX210 I'll swap for)

 

 

 

 

My sound blaster atlas kees saying no supported devices found. What audio app are we supposed to use to tune audio?

 

My cpu doesn't seem to break over 3.8ghz even though cc is set to performnce. Doesn't this thing supposed to go above 55w cpu?

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/29043534/fs/28809072

[NORD]

To configure the Atlas sound, install the driver. Driver Audio Creative.from the clevo website.

[ssj92]

14 minutes ago, NORD said:

To configure the Atlas sound, install the driver. Driver Audio Creative.from the clevo website.

I have already done this. Installed realtek and the clevo speaker/creative audio configuration driver. Still says no devices connected support atlas. 

 

  

10 hours ago, NORD said:

Hello everyone.I have a question, I wonder if the BIOS update from Dsankt will affect the installation of the unlocked Bios Prema? And another Question - does Prema Bios 11 support the Cpu series?

 

does not support 11th gen 

[1610ftw]

1 hour ago, ssj92 said:

Got the beast! has style note bios even though I got it from zTecPC 😕 

 

Specs:

i7 10700K

8GB DDR4 3200Mhz (I have 16GB 2400Mhz laying around, may swap for this)

RTX 2070 Super 

1080p 144Hz Panel 

AX201 (Have a AX210 I'll swap for)

 

 

 

My sound blaster atlas kees saying no supported devices found. What audio app are we supposed to use to tune audio?

 

My cpu doesn't seem to break over 3.8ghz even though cc is set to performnce. Doesn't this thing supposed to go above 55w cpu?

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/29043534/fs/28809072

 

Something doesn't seem right. If you got this new from zTecPC you may want to check with them about your findings.

 

You would expect Prema Bios and working audio out of the box so better to sort that out first before diving in.

[electrosoft]

2 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Got the beast! has style note bios even though I got it from zTecPC 😕 

 

Specs:

i7 10700K

8GB DDR4 3200Mhz (I have 16GB 2400Mhz laying around, may swap for this)

RTX 2070 Super 

1080p 144Hz Panel 

AX201 (Have a AX210 I'll swap for)

 

 

 

 

My sound blaster atlas kees saying no supported devices found. What audio app are we supposed to use to tune audio?

 

My cpu doesn't seem to break over 3.8ghz even though cc is set to performnce. Doesn't this thing supposed to go above 55w cpu?

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/29043534/fs/28809072

 

1 hour ago, 1610ftw said:

 

Something doesn't seem right. If you got this new from zTecPC you may want to check with them about your findings.

 

You would expect Prema Bios and working audio out of the box so better to sort that out first before diving in.

 

I just checked zTecPCs website and they no longer list or promote Prema on their existing ZtecPC units for sale so at some point for whatever units they have to sell it gets the stock treatment now but it never hurts to ask.

 

 

[NORD]

2 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Я уже это сделал. Установлены realtek и драйвер конфигурации динамика clevo / creative audio. По-прежнему говорится, что ни одно подключенное устройство не поддерживает atlas.

 

  

 

не поддерживает 11-е поколение

Better contact ZTECPC you have their warranty.

[Bidelloman]

3 hours ago, ssj92 said:

I have already done this. Installed realtek and the clevo speaker/creative audio configuration driver. Still says no devices connected support atlas. 

 

  

 

does not support 11th gen 

same issues with 10th gen, tried every driver install combo in existence, nothing, s. blaster atlas does not work and not even pc support was able to help ( colour me surprised).

[1610ftw]

2 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

I just checked zTecPCs website and they no longer list or promote Prema on their existing ZtecPC units for sale so at some point for whatever units they have to sell it gets the stock treatment now but it never hurts to ask.

 

 

 

That would suck, I thought it was a given that all their X170SM-G would get the Prema bios. In any case it surely doesn't hurt to ask.

[NORD]

6 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Я уже это сделал. Установлены realtek и драйвер конфигурации динамика clevo / creative audio. По-прежнему говорится, что ни одно подключенное устройство не поддерживает atlas.

 

  

 

не поддерживает 11-е поколение

Try the driver at this link - it works for me. https://disk.yandex.ru/d/bssRRNNnTsZxCQ

[Komputers-Best]

Who knows if it is possible to run optimus on clevo x170SMG?

[NORD]

12 minutes ago, Komputers-Best said:

Кто знает, возможно ли запустить optimus на clevo x170SMG?

No.

[jaybee83]

On 12/13/2022 at 5:29 AM, ssj92 said:

RTX 30 series wasn't full desktop level graphics cards either. But 40 series will still be faster than 30 series. 

 

30 series was a joke on laptops. 

 

10/20 series was the best gen in terms of having performance closest to their desktop counterparts. 

 

On 12/13/2022 at 5:33 AM, electrosoft said:

 

So true.

 

3000 series barely beat the 2000 series as the 2000 series was the last true desktop equivalent on laptops. I don't think we'll ever see the 1:1 DTR days of Pascal and Turing.

 

But with the die shrink and much better power envelope of the 4000 series I expect a major leap in performance this time around even boxed into 150-200w.

 

 

 

dont forget the 900 series, as well, we had the 200W BEAST 980 DT in mobile 🙂 

 

12 hours ago, ssj92 said:

Got the beast! has style note bios even though I got it from zTecPC 😕 

 

Specs:

i7 10700K

8GB DDR4 3200Mhz (I have 16GB 2400Mhz laying around, may swap for this)

RTX 2070 Super 

1080p 144Hz Panel 

AX201 (Have a AX210 I'll swap for)

 

 

 

 

My sound blaster atlas kees saying no supported devices found. What audio app are we supposed to use to tune audio?

 

My cpu doesn't seem to break over 3.8ghz even though cc is set to performnce. Doesn't this thing supposed to go above 55w cpu?

 

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/29043534/fs/28809072

 

congratz man!

as for SB, thats a known issue on Clevo, ull probably need to try lots of different stock drivers to find exactly the right one that works for ur machine. then make sure u dont lose it! 😄 

 

 

10 hours ago, electrosoft said:

 

 

I just checked zTecPCs website and they no longer list or promote Prema on their existing ZtecPC units for sale so at some point for whatever units they have to sell it gets the stock treatment now but it never hurts to ask.

 

 

 

well that sucks... 😞 

[MaxxD]

Hi, I'm new here, thought I'd say thank you! I also have a Clevo machine (PCS UK) which is X170SM-G and PremaBIOS, which is impossible to get... I talked to whoever I could and there is no chance of getting it (this is not possible from the manufacturer's side either...) Clevo itself did not allow it either. Unfortunately! 🙄