All about Windows 11 news and announcements

[raptorddd]

14 hours ago, Snowleopard said:

So what is the deal with 23H2 ? is it coming out today (11/26) or are they dropping more of nothing today?, I am still on 10 Pro, but was thinking about upgrading to 11 / 23H2. Maybe...

no just regular update not sure if copilot only still 22H2 and 23H2 on end of october maybe.

[Aaron44126]

Microsoft is going to stop allow people to use Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 keys to activate Windows 10/11.

 

...Or so they say.

 

https://arstechnica.com/?p=1972170

It appears that this only applies to new versions of Windows 11.  If you have an older version, you can still activate with an old Windows 7/8 key (for now).  So, presumably you could save a Windows 11 22H2 ISO, use it to activate with an old key, and then upgrade to the current Windows 11 build with Windows Update.

[raptorddd]

On 9/29/2023 at 10:27 AM, Aaron44126 said:

Microsoft is going to stop allow people to use Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 keys to activate Windows 10/11.

 

...Or so they say.

 

https://arstechnica.com/?p=1972170

It appears that this only applies to new versions of Windows 11.  If you have an older version, you can still activate with an old Windows 7/8 key (for now).  So, presumably you could save a Windows 11 22H2 ISO, use it to activate with an old key, and then upgrade to the current Windows 11 build with Windows Update.

isnt windows 11 base lower than windows 10 users.? so theyll have less users.

i did test 23H2 iso yesterday and installed ok. i guess in the future the will block this just like they did on requirements for windows 11

[Papusan]

New/newer is always better, LOOL @Mr. Fox @ryan+++++ 

 

Windows 10 Still More Popular Than Windows 11, Two Years Later

According to StatCounter, Windows 10 holds an impressive 71.64% of the world's total Windows-based operating system market share, while Windows 11 holds just 23.61%.

 

Windows 11's lackluster market share is understandable given its mixed reception overall. 

 

Windows 11 now has more features than Windows 10 — including Microsoft's new AI co-pilot, as well as widgets and full DirectStorage support — many people still prefer Windows 10's older user interface. (Even our Editor-in-Chief, Avram Piltch, still prefers Windows 10 on his main machine, due to its smaller, more customizable start menu and simpler context menu.)

[Mr. Fox]

1 hour ago, Papusan said:

New/newer is always better, LOOL @Mr. Fox @ryan+++++ 

 

Windows 10 Still More Popular Than Windows 11, Two Years Later

According to StatCounter, Windows 10 holds an impressive 71.64% of the world's total Windows-based operating system market share, while Windows 11 holds just 23.61%.

 

Windows 11's lackluster market share is understandable given its mixed reception overall. 

 

Windows 11 now has more features than Windows 10 — including Microsoft's new AI co-pilot, as well as widgets and full DirectStorage support — many people still prefer Windows 10's older user interface. (Even our Editor-in-Chief, Avram Piltch, still prefers Windows 10 on his main machine, due to its smaller, more customizable start menu and simpler context menu.)

So, that's good. I guess. It means 71.64% of Windows users can be assumed to be smarter than the minority. It's unfortunate that the Redmond Reprobates can't figure out that their "features" and "improvements" are not useful or appreciated, and some are viewed as loathesome. 

[Papusan]

22 minutes ago, Mr. Fox said:

So, that's good. I guess. It means 71.64% of Windows users can be assumed to be smarter than the minority.

What more to say......

[KING19]

On 10/4/2023 at 4:54 PM, Papusan said:

New/newer is always better, LOOL @Mr. Fox @ryan+++++ 

 

Windows 10 Still More Popular Than Windows 11, Two Years Later

According to StatCounter, Windows 10 holds an impressive 71.64% of the world's total Windows-based operating system market share, while Windows 11 holds just 23.61%.

 

Windows 11's lackluster market share is understandable given its mixed reception overall. 

 

Windows 11 now has more features than Windows 10 — including Microsoft's new AI co-pilot, as well as widgets and full DirectStorage support — many people still prefer Windows 10's older user interface. (Even our Editor-in-Chief, Avram Piltch, still prefers Windows 10 on his main machine, due to its smaller, more customizable start menu and simpler context menu.)

 

No surprise there, TPM 2.0 is preventing older PCs to upgrade downgrade to Windows 11 even though there is a workaround for it. The marketshare proves that Windows 11 shouldnt exist at all and they're currently working on Windows 12 that'll be released sometime next year.

 

On a positive note at least we Windows 10 users dont have to worry about anymore broken updates 😆

[epguy3]

On 9/25/2023 at 9:03 PM, Snowleopard said:

So what is the deal with 23H2 ? is it coming out today (11/26) or are they dropping more of nothing today?, I am still on 10 Pro, but was thinking about upgrading to 11 / 23H2. Maybe...

 

Win11 23H2 only released to Windows Insiders in the RP channel
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2023/09/26/releasing-windows-11-version-23h2-to-the-release-preview-channel/

 

23H2 not yet released to non-insiders (aka. public release is possibly sometime in October)

[epguy3]

On 9/29/2023 at 10:27 AM, Aaron44126 said:

Microsoft is going to stop allow people to use Windows 7, Windows 8, and Windows 8.1 keys to activate Windows 10/11.

 

...Or so they say.

 

https://arstechnica.com/?p=1972170

It appears that this only applies to new versions of Windows 11.  If you have an older version, you can still activate with an old Windows 7/8 key (for now).  So, presumably you could save a Windows 11 22H2 ISO, use it to activate with an old key, and then upgrade to the current Windows 11 build with Windows Update.

 

see this post:

 

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/windows-10-and-windows-11-digital-licencing-explained.14051/post-348814

 

and the topic here:

 

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/free-activation-from-windows-7-8-key-or-upgrade-to-windows-10-11-ends.18347/

[Snowleopard]

They are already talking about Windows 12...... I don't want AI doing anything in my Operating System and I don't want telemetry either...... Windows will become the next Facebook, all it is is an advertising platform and if you pay for a license, you should be able to shut it off.

 

 

[serpro69]

On 10/5/2023 at 12:28 AM, Mr. Fox said:

So, that's good. I guess. It means 71.64% of Windows users can be assumed to be smarter than the minority. It's unfortunate that the Redmond Reprobates can't figure out that their "features" and "improvements" are not useful or appreciated, and some are viewed as loathesome.

 

...and that's despite all the nastiness they go through to push winduhz 11 on you.

 

The other day, after booting up into Windows, instead of a login screen I was greeted with a Windows 11 logo, and at first it seemed like they just pushed the update. After taking a closer look, it was a "please upgrade to this bs OS" screen. Funny thing is, it took me a bit to discover a tiny-blurred-into-background "not now" button at the bottom of the screen. And the only other two (very prominent) buttons in the middle of the screen were essentially the same - "Install now" or "Download now and install later"  

You'd think this is where it ended, but after clicking "not now" and actually logging in to the OS - I got another prompt to install w11 right away, again with all the tricks to actually make you click on the "install" button... wtf 

And I mean I know to "think twice before clicking anything". Imagine now many people actually fell for this clickbait bs. 

 

And then you have all the new laptops coming with W11 also, and all the corporate users being forced to use W11. So I'd estimate that the real number of users who actually want to use it is way lower than that even.

[ryan]

@Papusan can you change your addy to THE MAN. lol. you rock, iv'e been preaching this for a long time newer is always better and finally the truth is gaining traction. haha.

@serpro69 did you hear windows 12 might be subscription based?

@Mr. Fox I heard in the forum somewhere probably the benchmark thread you got a 4k monitor how is it? does your 6900xt or 4090 sweat in games? sorry for not knowing I come and go alot and sometimes miss the odd posts.

[Mr. Fox]

19 hours ago, ryan said:

@Mr. Fox I heard in the forum somewhere probably the benchmark thread you got a 4k monitor how is it? does your 6900xt or 4090 sweat in games? sorry for not knowing I come and go alot and sometimes miss the odd posts.

Yes, I have a 4K 144Hz monitor. It is decent. The 4090 tears it up and barely breaks a sweat. The 6900 XT is not very good at 4K. It does an OK job with 1440p, but seems best suited for 1080p. It does not manage ray tracing very well at any resolution.

 

 

[serpro69]

13 hours ago, ryan said:

@serpro69 did you hear windows 12 might be subscription based?

 

Nop. I also couldn't care less - I have absolutely zero plans on using it  My only use-case for Win10 right now is occasional gaming, other than that - I use Linux daily and since some time ago even convinced my lady do to the same finally 

[Aaron44126]

On 10/6/2023 at 5:59 AM, epguy3 said:

see this post:

 

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/windows-10-and-windows-11-digital-licencing-explained.14051/post-348814

 

and the topic here:

 

https://www.elevenforum.com/t/free-activation-from-windows-7-8-key-or-upgrade-to-windows-10-11-ends.18347/

 

Looks like they have now closed the loophole more fully, server-side.  Windows 7 & 8 keys will not activate even if you can use them to install.

https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/11/23913107/microsoft-windows-11-block-windows-7-8-keys-upgrade-activation

[serpro69]

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In the European Economic Area (EEA), Windows will now require consent to share data between Windows and other signed-in Microsoft services. You will see some Windows features start to check for consent now, with more being added in future builds. Without consent to share data between Windows and other signed-in Microsoft services, some functionality in Windows features may be unavailable, for example certain types of file recommendations under “Recommended” on the Start menu.

source

[kojack]

almost 500,000 people running 11 now. Well above microsofts expectations. They were never thinking they were going to get windows 10 numbers releasing 11. So they are happy where the numbers are. 

[Papusan]

On 10/14/2023 at 5:13 PM, serpro69 said:

source

 

From 9:12

 

[kojack]

On 10/21/2023 at 11:19 PM, Papusan said:

 

From 9:12

 

 

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

I have never seen so many masochists in my life.  Come on here cry and moan about windows CONSTANTLY but still use it.  There are many more options out there. Should try some. If I don't like something I stop using it, buying it, etc.  Not keep using said product, go on website and constantly whine about it. smdh!

Edited October 23, 2023 by Reciever
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[Reciever]

3 hours ago, kojack said:

 

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

I have never seen so many masochists in my life.  Come on here cry and moan about windows CONSTANTLY but still use it.  There are many more options out there. Should try some. If I don't like something I stop using it, buying it, etc.  Not keep using said product, go on website and constantly whine about it. smdh!

No real reason to not be able to voice their opinion on a tech forum. As long as its within our community rules I'd rather see it than not.

 

It'd be nice if Microsoft could make a new OS at some point, We still see elements from Windows NT/2000 in Windows 10/11.

[Papusan]

9 hours ago, kojack said:

I have never seen so many masochists in my life.  Come on here cry and moan about windows CONSTANTLY but still use it. There are many more options out there.

I can't use Linux on hwbot. So that's that....  Papusan @ HWBOT | Team PremaMod @ HWBOT 

 

6 hours ago, Reciever said:

No real reason to not be able to voice their opinion on a tech forum. As long as its within our community rules I'd rather see it than not.

 

[kojack]

9 hours ago, Reciever said:

No real reason to not be able to voice their opinion on a tech forum. As long as its within our community rules I'd rather see it than not.

 

It'd be nice if Microsoft could make a new OS at some point, We still see elements from Windows NT/2000 in Windows 10/11.

I agree, and that was my opinion.  

[Reciever]

34 minutes ago, kojack said:

I agree, and that was my opinion.  

Here here! 

[raptorddd]

so no 23H2 for today right.?

[Etern4l]

To be fair, changing an OS is not necessarily straightforward, or possible (even if someone is really keen on doing it), so no wonder people stuck with a "live OS" - which is mutating into something they did not originally sign up for - are being vocal about their concerns.

 

There is an unintended point above though: no amount of loud complaining is going to change much in confrontation with a megacorporation like M$. One of the last concrete tools at people's disposal are their wallets.... until the tech industry achieves the Holy Grail: replace people with AIs and send them on Universal Income thus eliminating the pesky voting wallet issue. Think that's a sick joke? Watch some talks on AI featuring Sam Altman and related tech industry leaders.

 

Unfortunately, it's either people pick up the fight and accept some compromises involved in avoiding offending companies and products, or it's a humiliating surrender with all the long-term consequences.