Precision 7670 & 7770 pre-release discussion (Alder Lake)

[LegacyZero]

I decided to cancel my 7770 order. I need a laptop within a few weeks and I don't believe I will get it in time. I ended up finding an alternative that meet most of my requirements. I wish everyone the best of luck, and hopefully by me canceling my order. It will make someone else's order a tad faster.

[pintie]

I think you will not experience a differnece.

I bought 3x 980 pro - and they will be much cheaper for a long time.

 

when they release a 4TB Version next year - that will be interesting.

 

my 7670 was promissed for this week - now i got a mail with Oktober... 😒

 

 

[Victor]

6 hours ago, LegacyZero said:

I decided to cancel my 7770 order. I need a laptop within a few weeks and I don't believe I will get it in time. I ended up finding an alternative that meet most of my requirements. I wish everyone the best of luck, and hopefully by me canceling my order. It will make someone else's order a tad faster.

 

I cancelled my 7770 order at the beginning of this month when my sales rep told me the production was AGAIN postponed. Then, as an alternative, I ordered a 7760 on August 8th, and it arrived on August 15th. 😄

 

[LegacyZero]

15 hours ago, Victor said:

 

I cancelled my 7770 order at the beginning of this month when my sales rep told me the production was AGAIN postponed. Then, as an alternative, I ordered a 7760 on August 8th, and it arrived on August 15th. 😄

 

 

I decided to go with a non dell workstation. MSI CreatorPro X17 A12UMS

[Dell-Mano_G]

Dell Precision deep dive happening right now on the client community.  https://innovatisgroup.zoom.us/j/91326300123?pwd=VUtrTXRFTzQ4TDVpWDZ5eGFlRktzZz09

 

[microdou]

On 8/24/2022 at 12:01 PM, Aaron44126 said:

Samsung announced the 990 Pro SSD just now.  Available in October

Nice.

Will find out which gets delivered first, the new SSD, or my 7770 ordered 40 days ago😂

[AL123]

1 hour ago, Dell-Mano_G said:

Dell Precision deep dive happening right now on the client community.  https://innovatisgroup.zoom.us/j/91326300123?pwd=VUtrTXRFTzQ4TDVpWDZ5eGFlRktzZz09

 

Hi @Dell-Mano_G I think I was too late, was this recorded or will the content be available some other way/ be repeated, I wasn’t aware of the client community let alone this webcast! 
 

 

[Aaron44126]

1 hour ago, Dell-Mano_G said:

Dell Precision deep dive happening right now on the client community.  https://innovatisgroup.zoom.us/j/91326300123?pwd=VUtrTXRFTzQ4TDVpWDZ5eGFlRktzZz09

 

I happened to notice this and joined the meeting at around 1:15 PM U.S. Eastern (17:15 UTC).  I missed the beginning bit.  Basically, different Dell reps went through the different Precision models from this generation (3000, 5000, 7000) and some light Q&A.  Most of the information was stuff that we already know.

 

One specific that I noted — When asked about OLED panels in the Precision 5000 series, Dell rep Albert Scovel mentioned that there were quality issues with the Precision 5540 OLED panel (burn-in, compatibility, ...) and so they have dropped OLED from the Precision 5000 line.  Noting that commercial laptops are expected to be on for many hours every day, they have not felt comfortable enough with any of the current OLED panel offerings to bring them back to Precision 5000.  .........I've been worried about burn-in in particular; I'm very interested in moving to OLED for whatever my next successor laptop is, but only if burn-in isn't a concern anymore.  It was mentioned that steps were taken to address burn-in in Precision 5540, but I guess it wasn't a full fix.  We'll see what happens with the Precision 7670 OLED.  Hard to get excited right off the bat because issues will probably take many hours of use to crop up.

 

...I can't wait for microLED in laptops to be a thing...

 

When asked about CAMM and standardization, Dell rep Alex Tyltin mentioned that JEDEC has given some "positive feedback" but that's really all that was said about it.  In the chat, @Dell-Mano_G also mentioned that they are working with the JEDEC standards board.  It was noticed by the Dell reps that there is interest in more information on CAMM and they will look into setting up a webinar just for that.

 

When asked about HX (7000 series) availability, Dell rep Alex Tyltin acknowledged the delays, noted that they are monitoring the supply chain situation and said that "aspirationally" they hope to see the supply chain issues resolved and backlog cleared out by October, stressing that this is more of a goal than a promise.  (A number of users in the chat mentioned similar stories to what we are seeing here; estimated delivery dates being pushed out to late September.)  He also mentioned that indeed they were originally aiming for a May launch.

 

He also indicated that they have no intention of dropping the 17" workstation offering in the near future.

 

@Dell-Mano_G Is there some place to be notified of these webinars in advance?

[serpro69]

3 hours ago, LegacyZero said:

I decided to go with a non dell workstation. MSI CreatorPro X17 A12UMS

 

Isn't that the workstation version of Titan-GT77 ? I remember checking out its thread some time ago and the benchmarks were quite good. But was also said to be very loud IIRC.
 

I kind of keep searching for replacements/alternatives every now and then, but each time my heart tells me to go back and wait for Dell for some reason :D 

[heikkuri]

@Aaron44126 Hi, check these addresses https://www.dellclientcommunity.com/ and https://twitter.com/DellClients/

Videos https://youtu.be/epAVnQu5dZA

 

[microdou]

2 hours ago, heikkuri said:

Videos https://youtu.be/epAVnQu5dZA

6 subscribers 😅

[LegacyZero]

6 hours ago, Aaron44126 said:

 

...I can't wait for microLED in laptops to be a thing...

 

 

[LegacyZero]

7 hours ago, serpro69 said:

 

Isn't that the workstation version of Titan-GT77 ? I remember checking out its thread some time ago and the benchmarks were quite good. But was also said to be very loud IIRC.
 

I kind of keep searching for replacements/alternatives every now and then, but each time my heart tells me to go back and wait for Dell for some reason 😄

 

Yes, this appears to be the "workstation" version of the Titan-GT77. What thread do you speak of? I haven't found anything related to it's benchmarks.

 

I know the feeling, I want to wait for the 7770. However, I need something soon.

[win32asmguy]

11 hours ago, LegacyZero said:

 

Yes, this appears to be the "workstation" version of the Titan-GT77. What thread do you speak of? I haven't found anything related to it's benchmarks.

 

I know the feeling, I want to wait for the 7770. However, I need something soon.

There is a video discussing DTR-related issues on the GT77:

 

 

Maybe the CreatorPro X17 is better though in both some hardware differences and software improvements. I am curious if it has a membrane keyboard instead of the mechanical used on the GT77. I am also curious if any of the display outputs are wired to the Intel GPU in hybrid mode.

[serpro69]

16 hours ago, LegacyZero said:

What thread do you speak of? I haven't found anything related to it's benchmarks.

 

 

The GT77 thread is here.

There's a youtube review on the second page that has some benchmarks, among other things.

[LegacyZero]

10 hours ago, serpro69 said:

The GT77 thread is here.

There's a youtube review on the second page that has some benchmarks, among other things.

 

The MSI CreatorPro X17 A12UMS should have similar performance to the GT77 Titan due to it's obvious similarities. However, it's still different and I haven't seen any reviews on it specifically. 

[1610ftw]

15 hours ago, win32asmguy said:

There is a video discussing DTR-related issues on the GT77:

 

 

Maybe the CreatorPro X17 is better though in both some hardware differences and software improvements. I am curious if it has a membrane keyboard instead of the mechanical used on the GT77. I am also curious if any of the display outputs are wired to the Intel GPU in hybrid mode.

 

That was a bit of a strange review and each time I see people discuss the power brick being too large and chunky I want to puke - not that difficult to get a smaller version for travelling. With a battery life of at least 4 hours and up to 6 I doubt that a battery would even be necessary in the boardroom meetings like the one he pretends to be crashing with the "monstrous" power brick. I also never had an issue to connect a Thunderbolt dock to any of my MSI laptops (Akitio, Dell (2x) and HP) in order to get a third monitor output but hey I must be some kind of wizard....

 

As for the membrane keyboard my contact at MSI confirmed that to me, probably the keyboard you already know from the GE76 save for the numpad section.

 

Software could indeed use some improvement but I am not quite sure to which lengths MSI would go to differentiate the X17 from the GT77 - they do not even seem to have a proper workstation logo any more but then the Dragon does not look too bad in all black and white:

https://www.msi.com/Content-Creation/CreatorPro-X17-A12UX/Gallery#lg=1&slide=4

 

In any case this is probably better discussed over in the MSI section.

 

[1610ftw]

49 minutes ago, LegacyZero said:

 

The MSI CreatorPro X17 A12UMS should have similar performance to the GT77 Titan due to it's obvious similarities. However, it's still different and I haven't seen any reviews on it specifically. 

Indeed not a single review so far. Would be cool if you could either open a thread in the MSI section or post in the GT77 thread. When will you get it?

[serpro69]

4 hours ago, LegacyZero said:

The MSI CreatorPro X17 A12UMS should have similar performance to the GT77 Titan due to it's obvious similarities. However, it's still different and I haven't seen any reviews on it specifically. 

 

I think it should be at least better built with higher QC (similarly to Dell's XPS vs Precision), and have a better keyboard (work oriented and not a gaming one). Performance wise, it shouldn't be worse than the gaming version at the very least.

 

PS: let's maybe move the discussion to MSI section? :D 

[AL123]

1 hour ago, serpro69 said:

 

I think it should be at least better built with higher QC (similarly to Dell's XPS vs Precision), and have a better keyboard (work oriented and not a gaming one). Performance wise, it shouldn't be worse than the gaming version at the very least.

 

PS: let's maybe move the discussion to MSI section? 😄

Without wanting to turn this into a political discussion be aware MicroStar International (MSI) are one for the few PC manufacturers still doing business in/ with Russia. That rules out purchasing anything from them out for me. 

 

see https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/over-1000-companies-have-curtailed-operations-russia-some-remain

 

 

[1610ftw]

7 hours ago, AL123 said:

Without wanting to turn this into a political discussion be aware MicroStar International (MSI) are one for the few PC manufacturers still doing business in/ with Russia. That rules out purchasing anything from them out for me. 

 

see https://som.yale.edu/story/2022/over-1000-companies-have-curtailed-operations-russia-some-remain

 

 

Interesting information, might be good to post this in the general section as it also is of interest regarding other manufacturers? Without going into the politics of this it is good for people to make an informed decision.

 

[LegacyZero]

I made a thread for the MSI CreatorPro X17 - A12U, that way we can bring the focus of this thread back to the Dell Precision 7670 and 7770.

[microdou]

Automatically delayed 😭 I have to give consent to the new delivery date

[LegacyZero]

1 hour ago, microdou said:

Automatically delayed 😭 I have to give consent to the new delivery date

What a terrible launch by Dell....

[pintie]

my 7670 was set to be delivered today...

the only thing delivered was a new date

-> 6th Oktober... so 6 weeks later...

😬☹️