Raven Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 I have taken the plunge and ordered a new GPU. I found a 2080S that was just a little over $450 AUD wich is a steal and it's on the way, Now the wait time to see what happens. Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anassa Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 1 hour ago, Raven said: I have taken the plunge and ordered a new GPU. I found a 2080S that was just a little over $450 AUD wich is a steal and it's on the way, Now the wait time to see what happens. Nice! That is a fantastic price! Previous lives: D900F / P150HM / P150EM / P870DM2 / X170KM Testing/Backup Rig - P750DM2 - **in process** - *Build Thread* Wife's Daily - P750DM2- 4k Panel / 6700k / 1060 GTX / 64GB DDR4 3200Mhz Corsair Vengeance / 1TB Samsung 970 Plus / 2TB WD Black SN770 / Killer Wifi Self Daily - P750DM2 (2016) - Dsanke BIOS / 8700k (2017) / 2080 RTX (2019) / 64GB DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 Ballistix / ETC Determined to keep the socketed 15.6" laptops alive as long as possible!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 44 minutes ago, anassa said: Nice! That is a fantastic price! Yeah with any luck it works right off the bat and i'm going to be happy. I'll have the second set of 32GB sticks on the way soon for a total of 128@ 3200mhz After that it's replacement screen and finally moving on to storage, Though I can't for the life of me find replacement Sata Caddies/adapters for the P870TM-G since I don't know where mine have gone. Also need a decent place to pick up a lot of replacement screws for this machine as i've found that they were made with weak metals/thin heads and tend to round easily. Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer79 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 9 hours ago, Raven said: have taken the plunge and ordered a new GPU. I found a 2080S that was just a little over $450 AUD wich is a steal and it's on the way, Now the wait time to see what happens. 8 hours ago, anassa said: Nice! That is a fantastic price! 7 hours ago, Raven said: Yeah with any luck it works right off the bat and i'm going to be happy. I'll have the second set of 32GB sticks on the way soon for a total of 128@ 3200mhz After that it's replacement screen and finally moving on to storage, Though I can't for the life of me find replacement Sata Caddies/adapters for the P870TM-G since I don't know where mine have gone. Also need a decent place to pick up a lot of replacement screws for this machine as i've found that they were made with weak metals/thin heads and tend to round easily. The price is one thing, but I would recommend the RTX3070! The RTX2080S has slightly higher temperatures again, so the RTX30xx would be slightly better and cooler:-) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 14 minutes ago, Developer79 said: The price is one thing, but I would recommend the RTX3070! The RTX2080S has slightly higher temperatures again, so the RTX30xx would be slightly better and cooler:-) Sadly there is a huge difference in price, the 3070 starts at around 1500 AUD so given that while the 2080S wont be quite as good as the 3070 but will still obliterate the original 1070 I think at 450 AUD it's not so bad. Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer79 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 5 minutes ago, Raven said: Sadly there is a huge difference in price, the 3070 starts at around 1500 AUD so given that while the 2080S wont be quite as good as the 3070 but will still obliterate the original 1070 I think at 450 AUD it's not so bad I understand your concerns! Maybe you can get one somewhere. How much do you want to spend on a new card? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 Everyone's favourite part of modding and upgrades, The long dissapointing wait for parts to arrive in the mail. 2 Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Minor update: I have almost gotten a WWAN device (Fibocomm L860GL 16) Working in the second MXM port ever since I dropped the second 1070, I have it atleast mostly recognized by windows as you can see in the screenshot, Just a manner of figuring out how to 'wake' it up so I can have 4G LTE connectivity thus allowing me to take my laptop everywhere and not need a constant hotspot as it can provide it's own Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 So the 2080 Super arrived, Time to try things. Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Alright ladies and gentlemen we have some promising results, Not only are the brightness controls for the screen working on the P870 but the slightly modified elcheapo heatsink is working but, I have an issue, I've never had to do an INF mod for a driver, While the sensors are detected in Hardware info show my card isn't cooking itself which is good, I can't get the nvidia driver too install So these are 5xx drivers I've got, does anyone happen to have a guide I can follow as the ones I find aren't up to date enough. 1 Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1610ftw Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 33 minutes ago, Raven said: Alright ladies and gentlemen we have some promising results, Not only are the brightness controls for the screen working on the P870 but the slightly modified elcheapo heatsink is working but, I have an issue, I've never had to do an INF mod for a driver, While the sensors are detected in Hardware info show my card isn't cooking itself which is good, I can't get the nvidia driver too install So these are 5xx drivers I've got, does anyone happen to have a guide I can follow as the ones I find aren't up to date enough. Congratulations! You can definitely try nvcleanstall: https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/ I used it when I was having display issues and it did not solve my (entirely different) problem but it somehow convinced my laptop that I had a 2080 Super not a regular 2080, I even got some TimeSpy runs that said I had a 2080 Super 🙂 Techpowerup has a thread about it and there are lots of guides around and I think I ended up here: https://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/34429-how-to-mod-and-sign-nvidia-drivers-with-tpu-nvcleanstall/ The important part is that here you can tell the driver about your CPU: You may want to check both in that thread and in the Techpowerup forum if there are any drivers that are more suited than others for what you want to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 On 2/10/2024 at 1:51 AM, 1610ftw said: Congratulations! You can definitely try nvcleanstall: https://www.techpowerup.com/nvcleanstall/ I used it when I was having display issues and it did not solve my (entirely different) problem but it somehow convinced my laptop that I had a 2080 Super not a regular 2080, I even got some TimeSpy runs that said I had a 2080 Super 🙂 Techpowerup has a thread about it and there are lots of guides around and I think I ended up here: https://forums.laptopvideo2go.com/topic/34429-how-to-mod-and-sign-nvidia-drivers-with-tpu-nvcleanstall/ The important part is that here you can tell the driver about your CPU: You may want to check both in that thread and in the Techpowerup forum if there are any drivers that are more suited than others for what you want to do. I feel like the current heatsink i've got is just not making good enough contact, At Idle it sits fine, And a load of up to 100 watts it's running warm, But after that temperatures just spiral out of control until a full system crash with either a white screen or greenscreen, Air coming out the vents feels warm-hot but not what i'd expect from something with temperatures going through the roof. This is idle And this is me starting to put a proper load on it, The fans are set to maximum power as-well, Once the GPU starts hitting boost clocks is when it goes through the roof. Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zex4 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 Good job buddy 👏 Do you using one or two 300w power supplies 🤔 As far I can see the max power consumption you had was around 160w...it's abit low for a 80 super Also your temps are like a 775 with separate heatsinks 😅 It's a bit strange for the p870 with better cooling power than 775.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1610ftw Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, Raven said: And this is me starting to put a proper load on it, The fans are set to maximum power as-well, Once the GPU starts hitting boost clocks is when it goes through the roof. Better check that heatsink fit, it clearly isn't good enough. Even the lesser non-SLI heatsink for a single 1080 is better than that at 200W, let alone a little over 100W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, zex4 said: As far I can see the max power consumption you had was around 160w...it's abit low for a 80 super That's because I'm having issues keeping it cool, The heatsink seems to be making contact there's on reason for it to be hitting this temperature, It can spike upwards of 190-200W but again i'm hitting 100C at 110-120 Watts, It instantly cuts out at 190 on a load test too a system crash with a green or white screen shortly after. 3 hours ago, 1610ftw said: Better check that heatsink fit, it clearly isn't good enough. Even the lesser non-SLI heatsink for a single 1080 is better than that at 200W, let alone a little over 100W. I've checked it three times, It appears to have proper thermal contact, Nothing should be preventing it from having proper thermal contact, Is it possible that the heatpipes are simply being overwhelmed? at 70-100 watts temps are fairly normal, Then after that boost clocks start being a thing and it just spikes. EDIT: So after the 8th Heatsink remount with better thermal pads to go with it, Sort of at-least we have achieved 200 Watts at 90C on the hotspot and 81-83C on the Core, That's with fans at FULL power and on a cooling pad that gives it optimal positioning for dissipation and intake and an airconditioner blasting 16C Air at me/the laptop (It's australia and it's hot outside) so that's significantly better but it still feels like this heatsink is woefully under powered for this. I also had a different kind of crash in that the whole system cut out but I know what caused that so I can fix that elsewhere. Speaking of which does anyone know what the proper pad sizes are for a completely new set so I can order them in and fix this once and for all since some of these pads Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1610ftw Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Raven said: That's because I'm having issues keeping it cool, The heatsink seems to be making contact there's on reason for it to be hitting this temperature, It can spike upwards of 190-200W but again i'm hitting 100C at 110-120 Watts, It instantly cuts out at 190 on a load test too a system crash with a green or white screen shortly after. I've checked it three times, It appears to have proper thermal contact, Nothing should be preventing it from having proper thermal contact, Is it possible that the heatpipes are simply being overwhelmed? at 70-100 watts temps are fairly normal, Then after that boost clocks start being a thing and it just spikes. EDIT: So after the 8th Heatsink remount with better thermal pads to go with it, Sort of at-least we have achieved 200 Watts at 90C on the hotspot and 81-83C on the Core, That's with fans at FULL power and on a cooling pad that gives it optimal positioning for dissipation and intake and an airconditioner blasting 16C Air at me/the laptop (It's australia and it's hot outside) so that's significantly better but it still feels like this heatsink is woefully under powered for this. I also had a different kind of crash in that the whole system cut out but I know what caused that so I can fix that elsewhere. Speaking of which does anyone know what the proper pad sizes are for a completely new set so I can order them in and fix this once and for all since some of these pads Do you have a picture of the heatsink? Looks like you may need something beefier as these temps are certainly not great and you may have to figure in a higher ambient temperature than other members. As for the pads you will need feedback from someboy with the same heatsink and GPU. If that isn't possible you may want to look into thermal putty to be on the safe side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 15 minutes ago, 1610ftw said: Do you have a picture of the heatsink? So rather than tearing the laptop down again, I found some Images of the one I use online, I picked this up locally from someone's dead machine. This is a 1070/1080 heatsink moddified (I had to make a tiny cut on the VRM area) to make room for a choke to fit. This heatsink was probably never built with the idea of a 200Watt load going through it to begin with. Given I could never pull more than 125Watts with my 1070, I also have the OLD dual gpu vapor chamber laying around but to fit that I'd have to make the same modification as I did to this heatsink. Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1610ftw Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I seem to remember that there were a few fitting issues with this one and the RTX2080 so not sure if anybody has used it with a 2080s. I have run it with a 1080 and and 200W and temps topped out at something like 72 / 83 degrees but that was at about 17 or 18°C so it is possible that with higher ambient temps your temperatures are quite normal. The vapor chamber heatsink would be much better choice obviously as it is made to cool at least 300W from two cards at 150W each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 27 minutes ago, 1610ftw said: The vapor chamber heatsink would be much better choice obviously as it is made to cool at least 300W from two cards at 150W each. This is a picture from earlier, But that's my vapor chamber Edit: And I don't really want to be cutting and dicing that up, And I kind of like the weight reduction of not having it and having access too the second MXM slot for my 4G WWAN LTE card. It's definitely being held back by this heatsink, I defs need better thermal pads, But it's spiking as high as 1975 on the core and 220W now Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1610ftw Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 28 minutes ago, Raven said: This is a picture from earlier, But that's my vapor chamber Edit: And I don't really want to be cutting and dicing that up, And I kind of like the weight reduction of not having it and having access too the second MXM slot for my 4G WWAN LTE card. It's definitely being held back by this heatsink, I defs need better thermal pads, But it's spiking as high as 1975 on the core and 220W now Understood, maybe new pads / thermal putty will help a bit. If not then you could also try to limit the power uptake to 180W and maybe also get better fans from Ali Express - there are better fans for the X170 and P775 so there should also be better fans for the P870. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 12 minutes ago, 1610ftw said: maybe also get better fans from Ali Express - there are better fans for the X170 and P775 so there should also be better fans for the P870. I could be wrong, But I don't think there are better fans for the P870? I am more than happy to be corrected on this. The fans that are in it are fairly chunky and do move a fair amount of air. Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anassa Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 @Raven have you tried undervolting and see what voltage it could sit at comfortably? Then from that voltage overclock? Then you have a good between solution until you find a better way to go about the heatsink. Previous lives: D900F / P150HM / P150EM / P870DM2 / X170KM Testing/Backup Rig - P750DM2 - **in process** - *Build Thread* Wife's Daily - P750DM2- 4k Panel / 6700k / 1060 GTX / 64GB DDR4 3200Mhz Corsair Vengeance / 1TB Samsung 970 Plus / 2TB WD Black SN770 / Killer Wifi Self Daily - P750DM2 (2016) - Dsanke BIOS / 8700k (2017) / 2080 RTX (2019) / 64GB DDR4 3200Mhz CL16 Ballistix / ETC Determined to keep the socketed 15.6" laptops alive as long as possible!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 None the less I am going to put some thermal pads under the GPU between it and the Laptop's Chassis/board to try and spread a little bit of that Heat out passively. I've just ordered about 80 dollars worth of thermal pads off of Alliexpress in a variety of sizes and shapes so I've got just about every size up to 5.0MM in giant sheets. Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Developer79 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 17 hours ago, Raven said: This is a picture from earlier, But that's my vapor chamber This is definitely the best cooling ever! I have used it to run a maximum of 2x RTX3080s in the P870xx! The perfect choice for an RTX30xx. I can only recommend it to everyone. With my adapters, this heatsink works without any problems for the RTX30xx series in the P870xx!:-).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 19 hours ago, Developer79 said: ith my adapters, this heatsink works without any problems And what adapters are those? Portable Desktop Killer: P870TM-G Core I7 - 9900K, RTX 2080 Super, 128GB DDR4 3200Mhz, 120Hz WQHD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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