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I had some time to play with the threadripper platform and tried a PBO with scalar 2x and -10 on all 96 cores, went from 119k to over 153k 😄 But the second try it shutdown 🤣 Still have the 1200w PSU 1U inside that the case came with so i think this is the weak link..i need to mode the case, cut it so i can add Bquiet 1200w ATX PSU titanium but dont have the time for the work right now

Getting 1,000+ FPS is something I have never experienced before. Below is Ark Ascended doing just that on all low settings and 1080P. 6000c26 with 65k tREFI, all tuned to the max with 2167fclk. My son took a picture of me with my phone while I was in the bios breaking things (So posting it here! lol. 😂 )

Speaking of PSUs, the Super Flower Combat 1000W SFX unit was delivered. I have never owned or even seen an SFX PSU except in pictures and videos. It is incredibly small, but unbelievably heavy. It seems like it weighs as much as an ATX PSU. Pictures and videos are usually lacking where perspective is concerned. But, yeah... it's soooo little. It is going to make building a SFF much easier.

Well priced too. I think I'll pick one up for a proper "just in case" scenario. I went back to running the Matrix vBIOS because it keeps my game clocks steady over 3200 everywhere. Fallout 76 is no problem. I can even run stock settings, but WoW will trip the WVP2 without adjustments with the 800w bios. On the flip side, my hot spot differential is ~12c with the stock factory application so I'm good atm on that front. No native 12vhpwr on PSU? 🤣 Nice on the warranty just in case. How did the A-die fare in the 5080 variant for comparison? Would it boot at 1050mv VSOC? Let us know how stability testing goes... let's see how this 9955X3D in the 5090 variant compares to the returned 5080... How are the noise levels between the two?

Got warranty activated today including the start date being adjusted to my purchase date so its a full three years. Swapped in A-die. It did not want to boot at 3000/3000/2000 with 1050mv VSOC. 1200mv worked but is probably too much. XMP 6000 C36 equivalent timings (and tREFI 16k) at 1200mv VDD/VDDQ/VDDIO but need to stability test.

The 5090 is a beast compared to the second and the (3rd) last.

Wow, by far the easiest delid I have ever done using the Thermal Grizzly Delid Die Mate and the Die Mate heater. Removing the residual solder from the die after delid was also much easier because there was less of it. Most of it stayed on the IHS and hardly any left on the CPU die. And, as always massive thermal benefit to bare die. The temps are fantastic. Cooler temps = less voltage and power, higher clocks... profit by every measurement. I am pretty sure I could use the heater to delid a Ryzen CPU with 75% less time and effort if I were to use dental floss to cut the glued spots.

Yeah MSI really came through as I was not sure if I would get any kind of extended warranty given that it was an open box model. Not that there was a choice because they discontinued the config with 9955HX3D and 5090 instead of just modifying it to have 2x16GB RAM. Ended up having to dial it back to C38 and tREFI 11677. I only ever used the stock 2x16GB Hynix in the 5080 variant. These have factory seals and I was hesitant on keeping that 5080 due to price so I never opened it up. The 5080 variant however definitely could do 3000:3000:2000 with 1000mv VSOC stable. The OEM memory had locked PMIC so 1100mv VDD/VDDQ pretty much. Fan noise was essentially the same, very good. Its one of the few that can have good performance, good noise and just warm palm rests. Not X170 levels of palm rest temps which could stay at ambient temp but the chassis is simply too thin to ever really be that good. This has much better fans than the old 2024 7945HX3D. Maybe it is better with heat dissipation. They use PTM7958SP from the factory so if the old model was using a paste this might be part of the difference too.

I have this Jonsbo Z20 on the shelf, but I'm going to go with the Mechanic Master C26 for the SFF portable 2026 project. Z20 = ~20.1lL vs the C26 = 13.2l. Both support mATX.The C26 doesn't support an AIO but I was going to go with the Thermalright AXP-120-X67 I have brand new on my shelf anyhow or a max height ~130mm air cooler if needed. C26 supports up to ~310mm length GPU so the GB WF OC SFF 5080 should fit as it is exactly the length of the FE edition (304mm) and ~2.5 slots wide (closer to 2 than 2.5). Specs: MC 7500X3D + Asrock B850M Combo deal MC Open box GB 5080 SFF Corsair SF1000 Samsung 990 Pro 2TB KB 2x24GB 8400 sticks Thermalright AXP-120-X67 Noctua NF-A9 x4 Noctua NF-A12x25 G2 PWM Sx2-PP Mechanic Master C26 Then it comes down to the C26 or Z20 The downsize from 20.2L to 13.1L is pretty massive..... C26 weighs 6.6lbs (3kg) vs the Z20 11lbs (5.5kg)....again in the land of portability pretty massive The entire buildout in the C26 will weigh right around the Alienware 18 + PSU or a hair less actually and more importantly open up carrying case room for wireless KB/M and a 18-23" portable display and be much quieter under load vs any gaming laptop out there along with being able to tune every component with no restrictions. This type of build allows a 5090FE to slot right in but with a 1080p or 1440p 18-23" portable display that is overkill. The idea is lock in 120-165hz solid fps on the go\ as quiet as possible. This Windforce sff 5080 is much quieter under load than my Vanguard 5090. I'll probably end up with a Noctua NF-A12 on whatever cooler ends up end game on the CPU. I don't think a tuned 7500X3D will hold back a 5080 especially at 1440p, but if I do find it is a bottleneck, I will shift my 9800X3D into it and then sort out my desktop core system again. C26: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- There's that positivity!! 🤣 Good set of baseline data though to see how it fares over the coming months/year. Are you going to routinely test the connection with a firm push check from time to time or leave it completely alone and see how the integrity potentially gives up the ghost? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Curious to see your results with the A die swapped in and hopefully the warranty extension can be applied to really bring it home. There is always the chance of a poor IMC even on a laptop unit so fingers crossed. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Remember to pre-order your ROG 20th edition bundle to get the 20th edition 5090 Astral since it isn't being offered stand alone for only $5499.99...... "Only" $10,349.96 or $11k+ after tax.... https://eshop.asus.com/us/90yv0nf3-mvaa00-rog-astral-rtx5090-p32g-edition-20.html Don't forget you still need a CPU, memory and storage too.... might as push for a $15k build at this point....

BlackwellHotspot_v1.2.dll.txt Use this new version of the .dll I've added Hotspot Delta which is the delta between the coldest and hottest sensor. So now you'll get not only the hottest hotspot, but the delta between the 6 sensors. Edit: Make sure to download it as all files, and save it as BlackwellHotspot.dll

You may be able to get the heatsink from rjtech / sager. That is where I purchased mine. It was around $300 total including shipping. I still have my x170sm with the 10900k LTT golden sample and 3080m. Thought about selling it though to fund some new purchases.

nope thats with the matrix 800W vbios, although in BMW the wattage barely breaks 600W, maybe goes to max. 620-630 at most. seen much higher wattages in other titles or benchmarks. duuude im SO happy i got the WVPII, bringing those "invisible" failure points to my attention! edit: aight, ordered 5 different cables from 3 different sources, lets get our cable binning ON! lulz at least im glad to see that the variable really seems to be the cable and not the GPU, the WVPII or the PSU, that would suck even more. wish me luck guys!

Thanks! Definitely want to give it a whirl. I agree about ZT. I'm so used to having it on AM5 I wouldn't mind an equally competent version on Intel. Is that at stock 600w vBIOS? That replacement MSI MEG 1600T is still trucking along and even with a 600w+ stock OC and those wonderful bars lit up almost to their tops, it is really balanced and nice even when pulling 615-623w on the WV2P. But yeah, the connector is atrocious. Imagine if you didn't have the WV2P and were just merrily skipping along playing till one day you're like: "Is that smoke I smell?" Yikes mine only lasted less than two years and they ended up replacing the MB and 2080 Super but it was under warranty at least during that time. As for the watercooled HS, only place I found them before was AB and TB but I just checked my own launch page info on this here and they are long gone. For the normal HSF combo for the KM, found one left on eBay I dug through my heatsink bin and I did find this custom copper IHS I had made from BartX I know is from 9th gen I think but could be modded as needed potentially (sanded down for z-height issues on die). I had already soaked and reheat cycle treated it for gallium then sanded it down so it's smooth and saturated already. If you want it, let me know and I'll pop it in the mail for you to see if you can get it working with your 10900k no charge. Just inbox me your address. My last, custom made 10th/11th gen IHS from BartX I sent off to @win32asmguy some time ago. That thing was awesome. Have you messaged Rockitcool to see if maybe they have one floating around in the back somewhere? 🤣 Looking forward to your updates over in the SM thread!

I'm a quiet enthusiast for modular, old, laptops, and I have a soft spot for old HP Elitebooks / ZBooks. I know enough about computers to be fairly confident (read dangerous) mucking about the internals. I have an HP Elitebook 8770w that I'm thinking about sticking a new GPU in, and I'm on the hunt for a Zbook [15/17] G4 spec'd out. I have an old, what would've been top of the line Elitebook 8530w that I refuse to let die. One of the things that bothers me the most is the move away from repairable laptops to thin clients that break if you look at them sideways. It's not a real laptop if you can't beat a man to death with it and have it still boot, or something. Anyway, I hope to find help here in my journey keeping the machines I love so dearly alive.

Hey @Mr. Fox I would buy your parts, but I actually bought my 9950X3D2 and Dark Hero and Ram with the BestBuy 0% store Credit Card. So, if I were to return it all, it just goes back to the card. I used the card because I was not sure if I was going to even like or keep the setup. So it was a way for me to give it a good run in and test it daily. It seems pretty solid, other than being a weaker sample. And, I still might return it all. If I do, I’ll maybe be going for a 270K Plus. But I have really Moved away from overclocking and XOC. I just play games when I have time. I’m so busy with buying junk cars these days. I pretty much just keep it simple man! Congrats on the binned 270K plus purchase! That is a very nice chip! This is a picture of my yard full of cars from a days work. 😂

Just saw you grabbed that SP98! I honestly debated grabbing it too. But this SP97 is so good already, I have no complaints with it. I'm able to game at 5.8Ghz P and 5.3Ghz E on this beast. @electrosoft 5.85Ghz P passed gaming for the short bit I tested, but got angry in geekbench of all things. This was all with no manual core voltage tuning though, just auto scaling. Percentage wise for gaming, over my SP89, it's about 5% faster in some tests for gaming. Nothing amazing, but what you'd expect from the clock speed bumps.

I sent him a PM asking for his PayPal. If he has not quietly sold it already I will buy it. Probably not a smart move, but most things we are passionate about produce behaviors that are not very intelligent. Too bad I already sent the delidder tool and heater back. This will drive me to sell the parts I had offered to @tps3443 to pay for it and fund the replacement motherboard, etc. I honestly have not had time to put either the delidded 270K or delidded 9950X3D2 through their paces to say definitive gains in performance were achieved, but the massive thermal improvements alone made it worth the effort in both cases. I've had too many competing interests consuming my time. I'm going to expect decent performance gains on the 270K. I'd not expect as much from AMD simply because things are so limited by design by AMD. But I would delid them both again in a heartbeat just for the thermal gains even if nothing changed on either one in terms of performance. Bare die is the only way to fly. I need you to build a custom loop and stop settling for an AIO, brother. Since he spent more than I am offering to sell him the parts for he could come out ahead moneywise and with a better and stronger system if he were to return what he bought and use the money to pay for it. But, maybe the return window already closed. No matter the situation, I respect the decision to say no for the reasons that he did. Priorities are always God, family, work, play... in that order... and the first two are hard to separate. If the last two get out of order everything falls apart.

SP97 with just Noctua AIO. Was around 300w and 70c for a single run. Crazy good silicon.

If I had not already purchased the 9950X3D2 I might have considered it, but 3x retail is too much even if it is an amazing silicon sample. It will be obsolete too soon to make it a smart buy. Kind of nutty when you think about it. No response from him yet. Crickets. I'm surprised that I didn't hear from him. I offered all of what I mentioned for $1600. You could not even buy the mobo and memory for that, not to mention all of the extras it would be like getting for free. Maybe he did not see my text message. Yeah, there is not much difference in anything except memory benchmarks to be brutally honest about it. A little bit, for sure. Not a lot. And, a little bit doesn't mean very much when it comes to gaming, and it won't mean the difference between winning or losing. A little bit really matters when you've barely got enough to make things work.

I made @tps3443 a crazy low offer on the 9950X3D2, X870E Apex, IceMan Direct Die block, G.SKILL 6000 CL26 RAM and Supercool Direct Touch RAM cooler. That CPU is a WHOLE lot better than the one he has. So is the motherboard and RAM for that matter. If he doesn't want it, if anyone here is interested I will let it go for the same utterly insane low price as a complete package. Ready to use, turnkey. Speaking of 6000 CL26, this is the best that the garbage V-Color dual rank trash kit is capable of doing. I spent about 5 hours yesterday with it installed in the SFF build and it just doesn't have much to offer. As the low clock speeds it is capable of it performs actually quite well, it just can't hit any clock speeds that are worth a darn. It is not even bootable at 6400 in 1:1... debug code 00 on every attempt. Great example why one should never judge a book by its cover. With EXPO specs like this kit has one would think it is a fantastic memory kit, but it really sucks unless you run it close to stock. As sucky as it is, it will be good enough for the SFF build since it is not going to get put through the benching meat grinder. It will have a mundane existence that is limited to the mediocrity of web browsing and 3D gaming.

Definitely, the more I research, the more I am settled on EPDM. I need to locate that pump res combo you recommended I picked up for a good deal from PPC and res and fittings. I finally locked down on a new shelf to hold a large swath of my parts and boxes as the other room is full. Wife is giving me funny looks now..... 🤣 I like that you've tested each variant now with no X3D, 1xCCD X3D, 2xCCD X3D to see the progression (or regression) in regards to overclocking capability with X3D and peak stock clocks coming into play. I came to the same conclusion, outside of X3D beneficial games, that the 270k is actually one of my favorite CPUs on every level. Unfortunately for me, as always, Fallout 76 disproportionately loves X3D cache....scarily so even at 4k. I've tested and retested extensively the last 3 years and that massive chasm remains across the 14900k and 270k. Do you think the IMC on the 9950X3D2 you have is weaker than your other chips? Congratz on selling the HEDT rig over on OCN! Still a $1k+ difference now and I wouldn't rule out another price hike before we escape 2026. I've been testing my Windforce 5080 SFF back and forth against my 5090 in my main rig the last few days. I'm not unplugging the 5090 12vhpwr connector. I'm using the Corsair 1000w SFF instead externally to power the 5080 so swapping is quick and easy. 5090 is just a monster. WoW and even Fallout 76 keep the 5080 pegged at 99% outside of player heavy areas. Then again, there are many areas in WoW that keep the 5090 at 99% too even with a 175fps cap in place. As long as a GPU doesn't make that, deep seesaw screeching whine I can usually work with it. No GPU is truly silent under load and if I need to put my ear right next to it to hear it, to me that is effectively silent. Nothing, and I mean nothing, can touch that 3090FE whine I had. That was next level nauseating. Definitely keep the Astral. Still the most beautiful 5090 IMHO with that industrial slab look. I love the heatsink on that thang and prices are climbing and climbing. If I were you, I'd return the 9950X3D2 at a minimum to fish for a better sample or pick up a 9950X3D from Newegg which is on sale for $569.99 AND includes a free AIO or maybe see if @Mr. Fox wants to part with one of his samples OR return both the CPU and MB and see if @Talon wants to part with one of his 270k samples and go Intel. Of course going Intel you're going to want 8600+ capable G2 ram, cpu and MB at a minimum. If you want to stick with BB for their credit line, 270k is, oh, $600 cheaper than the 9950X3D2..... good deals on MBs and that helps compensate for memory costs. Damn, that's not good news if it can't even do 6000. MSI only guarantees 5600 on that model so you can't even send it in for a swap. Might have to just tune around 5800 or run a dirty OC that's "good enough" for gaming but still a major bummer. Silicon lottery strikes again.... Still a damn good deal though on the price and I'm not sure 5800 vs 6000 will even make any meaningful difference in gaming and you can maybe tighten up the timings even more. Do a dirty mem OC test 5800 vs 6000->6400 in games and go "meh....." Nice snag on the entire hood assembly so a small silver lining.... ------------------------------------------------------------ "Progress" = ~10% uplift.....

I am making a little more progress. This dual v-cache CPU doesn't like being rag-dolled like my other CPUs. It is more sensitive. That's not a good thing, but it is good I am starting to better understand what it can tolerate, and when I treat it kinder and gentler it performs better.

So, I used the Thermal Grizzly Intel socket 1851 Delid Die Mate heater that I used to delid my 270K Plus to delid my 9950X3D2. It worked flawlessly and effortlessly. It was more work threading dental floss behind the IHS "legs" to cut through the rubber glue pads than it was to delid. As soon as the heater hit 165°C and flashed ready I simply lifted the CPU off the IHS as if it were never attached. As an added bonus, most of the factory solder stays on the IHS so cleaning up the dies after delid is way lots easier. (Same was true for the 270K Plus. Very little solder left to clean off the dies.) I am going to do all delids this way from now on. Much better than working up a case of carpal tunnel moving the AM5 IHS back and forth 100 times until it falls off. Major thermal improvement (about 15-18°C) in Cinebench, exactly as expected.

OK, I have the EVC 2.0 working again. Between the python scripts and helpful suggestions @Day/drifter provided and using AI/search I am back in business on Windoze 10 and Winduhz 11. In case it saves anyone else the heartache, the instructions are posted below. Since it fixed the software not detecting the device in both OSes, it seems to be the remedy. I think the WireView Pro 2 installation and firmware updates to it may have been what triggered the malfunction because it is also an I2C programmer. Ensure the device is running the latest firmware (0009 or later), as older versions like L4 may require specific driver configurations. The WinUSB driver is not installed correctly. To resolve this, manually configure the Windows registry: Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\usbflags\048357400200. Set the osvc value to 01 50. Create a new DWORD named NewInterfaceUsage. Do not change the values. Create a new BINARY named SkipContainerIDQuery with value 01 00. Uninstall the device in Device Manager, but do not scan for hardware changes. Unplug the EVC 2.0 USB cable, and plug it back in. Launch the EVC2 Software in Admin Mode. EVC 2.0 Fix.zip

Ah, then that wouldn't work for me. I like to float between projects in flux and know I always have something to work on at any given time. I can see that approach would drive you batty. My wife is a completest to the point she can have problems falling asleep if something she is working on isn't completed. She'll lay there and think about it. She will be dog tired (even now) and can't stop till something she's working on around the house is completed. Me? I can shut down my brain and disconnect. I had to learn to do it years ago because as a programmer, I couldn't turn off my brain even after work. I would sit there or lay in bed with code just dancing through my head to the point I would have to get up and keep working. A lesser form would take hold in any hardware or software (or even gaming) projects I did back then. Took awhile, but I was able to translate that into everything I do and learn to shut down and then turn it back on the next day. Agreed, we didn't know how "good" we had it back then but AI and generated scarcity is driving record profits. Companies are charging these prices but I see everything in stock in abundance on the consumer side except 5090s which are in the single digits at MC so the wall has been hit for everything 5080 and below. Cheapest is the $3599 Ventus..... Those two Gigabyte Infinity OC 5090s at my local MC are still in stock after all this time at $5299.99. Biggest shock was I haven't checked Best Buy stock in quite some time. Only two 5090s in stock. The $3999 MSI gaming and $4329 Astral. Newegg cheapest in stock is $4149 TUF 5090 with a very limited selection.... I mean....sheesh.... 5080s? Plenty in stock everywhere but prices are still going to rise across the entire stack outside of the 5090 which does its own insane thing.... https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-and-colorful-announce-rtx-50-price-increases-for-distributors-rtx-5070-ti-now-starts-38-over-msrp Incoming MSI and Colorful price hikes: It will take a bit, but as always these prices will hit everywhere else and in the US prices will just adjust up with some retailers adjusting in the now even with current stock on hand because....profits.... Glad I snagged that $983 open box 5080 when I did last week. Same as snagging that $1971 Vanguard 5090 last August. The market is reaching a point where inventory is just going to stagnate because even at current pricing clearly cards aren't moving same as ram and storage. Crap tons of stock everywhere..... Something has to give and when this crashes, I hope it is spectacular...

I will soon. Too many projects at once. Spent the entire weekend doing computer stuff and still not done. Thoroughly exhausted. Built the A3 mini Installed the 9950X3D2 for testing... seems kind of meh, but haven't given it enough attention. It does need less core voltage than my other CPUs, but I didn't realize I would be losing 200 MHz on the AMD fused max boost on PBO. Completely gutted the O11 XL EVO for cleaning, flushed all of the parts, disassembled the disto block and cleaned the inside manually to remove all of the white chalky residue on the acrylic from something, (no idea what,) and now running a batch of PrimoChill System Reboot. (So another system flush and refill will be needed in 24-48 hours.) I redid the loop and removed the distribution manifold, forcing everything to flow in series rather than parallel. My flow rate is now 310-315 L/H (up from ~215-225 L/H). The EVC 2.0 is no longer being detected by the EVC software for some reason, so now I have to figure that out. Supercool memory block should be arriving tomorrow for the CUDIMMs in the Z890 Apex. (I already have Supercool memory cooling on the G.SKILL 8400 DIMMs but I don't what to have to swap things around, so I ordered the new kit so I could leave the other kit as-is.) So, I will be doing that next. Everything is a mess. I'll have to clear a spot in my office for work tomorrow and finish cleaning up and putting things away.

Saw that too. The IMC has me saying nah lol. Besides my current chip has been flawless at 5.7Ghz P, maybe that chip could do 5.8? Maybe. The thing about SP, is that the number doesn't always tell the full story. Sometimes chips just fail to scale with the voltage headroom they should have left.

So, I bought a 9950X3D2 on overclock.net that has what appears to be a stronger IMC and better V/F curve than either my 4585PX or 9950X. I will find out if it was a stupid waste of money after it arrives on Saturday. I hope not, but this CPU has gotten a lot of hate. I think it is because most are lousy silicon samples that need too much voltage and have a crappy IMC. We shall see soon enough. Before I start playing with that I need to delid my 270K Plus and install the Mycro Pro block. I will be doing that tomorrow.

unfortunately i cant use native cables, still rocking 2x8pin on the PSU side 😄 but this sounds like a nifty lil feature!

Initial impressions of this cable are very positive. It is very soft and pliable and appears to be very high quality. The pin balance is good. I honestly have no room to complain about the original cable that came with the old Toughpower GF3 1650W PSU. It survived a 3090 Ti, 4090 and my 5090 up until yesterday, when it began to demonstrate a 2-3A variance between pins. It is probably still entirely within the safe zone, and well within the Thermal Grizzly default range, but it did suddenly change and I thought it not worth tempting fate. It has served me very well. It has no visible evidence of degradation or having been hot at the GPU end or PSU end. The Corsair cable has a tight range of variance.

thats how i roll 😄 nah man, 100% hands off. WVPII totally provides peace of mind, let it run in the background and do its thing until an alarm gets triggered 🙂

ok so i figured since im having so much fun with RE Requiem and it draws an insane amount of wattage ill test my current GPU cable connection thoroughly and provide you the summary for comparison / reference sake. so total of 5 gaming sessions recorded with HWInfo64, threw out all data points below 95% gpu core load and anything below 600W for both total gpu power, as well as 12VHPWR only. that left me with approx. 7.5h of data with a monitoring frequency of 1s (27,215 data points total). the game was maxed out with RT and PT at 4K, no FG and DLSS set to Quality. as mentioned before im rocking the matrix vbios as a daily driver with a 24/7 stable OC of 34Gbps vRAM and +130 on the core, that gives me gaming clocks in the range of approx. 3060 Mhz +/- 30. ambient temps are currently quite high, were talking about 27-28C in my little "dad corner" 😄 gpu core is in the range of 68-73C under load, vRAM hotspot a tad higher at 70-76C and GPU hotspot approx. 85C on avg. with short spikes up to 93-94C (top 10% are in the range of 88-90C). FPS avg 102.9 1%% low 72.4 0.1% low 67.8 Total GPU Power avg 703W 10% high 761W 1% high 775W MAX 799W 12VHPWR Power avg 688W 10% high 744W 1% high 753W MAX 758W (interesting to see that as 12VHPWR wattage approaches the vbios limit at 800W, the gap to the total gpu power widens, thus the PCIe slot starts to draw more and more power, on avg. only 15W but the max spike is at 41W). Max Delta Current across 6 pins avg 1.06 A 10% high 1.99 A 1 % high 2.57 A MAX 3.3 A (stock setting for alarm in WVPII software is 4A) Max Delta Current across 6 pins (%) avg +11% 10% high +22% 1% high +29% MAX +35% (stock setting for alarm in WVPII software is +40%) this is how it should be, with even the absolute max individual data points still below the alarm threshold (which only comes into play if you get repeated, sequential limit breaches in a row, so a single data point spike aint enough to trigger it). this will provide a nice baseline once this cable inevitably gives out on me an ill need to test a fresh install / cable to compare 😄

Morning project done, did this with ChatGPT in a couple of hours. Remove the .txt from the hotspot.dll @Mr. Fox @Papusan @electrosoft BlackwellHotspot.dll.txtBlackwellHotspot_MSI_Afterburner_Guide_v3_1.pdf

Mumak has a test build available that has hotspot temps. Here is a link to his post. https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/nvidia-rtx-5080-incorrect-gpu-hotspot-temp-missing-3rd-fan-speed-summary-info.10306/post-52987

Good news, because HWMonitor sucks. Another happy degradation-free experience with 13th and 14th Gen Intel.

so guys, seems like HWInfo is already on it with Blackwell hotspot readouts:

I want it in GPU-Z. This is me from one of the very best days I have had the last two months. Today going out and eat (outside my preferred place). I don't know if I will be the same as before. It will take time. Loads of time before I will/start feel well with myself. I feel broken🙁 They say it takes at least a year before you can feel more confident. The first 3 months after the stroke is critical. After one year you can start feel safer and try come back to yourself. The progress goes slow but steady forwards. Thanks for asking my good friend🙂

It is impressive how close to the same performance the 270K Plus delivers compared with the 9950X with 25% fewer threads to handle the workload. The 270K Plus is actually just a tad better, and it's half the cost. Not to even mention the fact that the 270K Plus is much easier to tune and runs circles around AMD's best where memory overclocking is concerned. 💖

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/6046141 With E-cores bumped to 54x... https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r23_multi_core_with_benchmate/submissions/6046144

I still love laptops and portables. I always have since I got my hands on a TRS-80 Model 100 as a pre-teen many moons ago. I just go with the flow and see what comes out and adjust to the hand that's dealt but the onslaught of thin and light and the effective EOL of true, customizable DTRs with truly upgrade enabled GPUs and CPUs still stings. I was down to two laptops but I was sent an HP Omnibook Panther based laptop with an Intel 356h in it, so that's been fun to run but it is severely constrained. Still rocking the sent to me Nitro 275hx + 5060 for the mrs and the Alienware 18 275hx + 5070ti for myself since they were all sent and no cost to me. I don't know if I can stomach purchasing another notebook anytime soon with the current crazy (and climbing) prices and "meh" offerings. Even the potential of picking up a 9955HX3D + 5080 MSI Raider was dashed with @win32asmguy short review on it in this thread. Belgium spanked us good and proper and then Spain shut them down fairly easily IMHO. No skin in the game now, but Norway or Switzerland winning works for me or at least NOT Argentina...... --------------------------------------------------- If anyone has a 5080 they want to let go for a decent price, let me know. I did find an open box GB 5080 SFF at MC for $1079.99 so $1024.99 + tax = ~1090 after MC Card discount I have on hold till Sunday for pickup, but I'm open to other cards.

btw wanted to leave this for bro @Papusan, RO NORGE! lets go, show them english whos boss! wouldnt mind to have a viking world champion 😁

If the BIOS mod was created by Prema after the GPU was released it should be supported and it is about 99% certain it will be supported. If it was before the GPU was released then it is very unlikely. I'm glad that I don't have to worry about that kind of nonsense anymore. Sometimes I forget how bad laptops suck. Even the better non-BGA turds with desktop CPUs and MXM suck without a lot of stupid rigmarole. In hindsight I don't know how I put up with them for as long as I did.

Mine came from System76, so its got their open source coreboot BIOS and EC. I just switched the GPU subsystem ID over to the X170KM so all drivers install without modding. I never backported NVPCF ACPI code for Dynamic Boost so it always runs at 150W, and I believe one of the display outputs no longer work (mDP maybe) because of physical wiring differences on the SM vs. KM board. The TB3 on the back definitely works as that is what I use all of the time. Oh and I am not sure if the seller on taobao is active anymore but back then I got a set of fans modded from the A51m R2 to work in the X170. More CFM and quieter!

Actually this version might be even better. I adjusted more obscure timings after doing a bit more research. Totally stable with my G.SKILL Trident F5-8400J4052G24G kit. Testing now with the TeamGroup Xtreem CUDIMM kit and seems to be identical. Below is a link for the settings. Z890 Apex 8600 Validated - BIOS 9901

Thank you, I really appreciate that. I will happily pay for the shipping. I haven't tried contacting Rockitcool yet as I've hear they've gone out of business, but it never hurts to try. I'll try messaging them. Also thanks for the heatsink link. I almost bought the wrong one, claiming it was the right part. Pay attention to pictures guys.

So, did a little bit of digging for elusive information online and found a solution that works with my TeamGroup CUDIMM kit. Forcing the clock driver to work for manual tuning without using an XMP profile allows me to keep the NGU, Ring and D2D values the same and still boot at 9000+ (example in above post). It will not work with my G.SKILL 8400 kit (non-CUDIMM). With the CUDIMMs installed after POST there is a new menu under the Skew Control menu in memory configuration. CKD Configuration and manually set Single PLL mode forces the CUDIMM clock driver to take over and do the heavy lifting on manual tuning. If you have not booted at least once with a CUDIMM kit installed or have normal DIMM installed the CKD Configuration menu does not exist.

Thanks. Happy to share it. Let me know when you get home and are ready to use it. I've got an 8600 and and 8800 CMO I can send. Edit: Here is a zip of the folder (BIOS, CMO and Settings TXT files). @Talon

I think this is going to be good enough for now.

Had to make a place for the Z890 Apex. X870E Apex is now installed in the O11D Mini V2 with the 4585PX and 5080. Getting it to fit was a HUGE pain in the butt. Never buy a distro block with the pump facing the inside of the chassis. Big mistake. I have the Alphacool reservior shoved tight against the roof of the case and the 5080 still touches it. With the reservoir against the floor the GPU will not fit. Always choose one with the pump that is in the closed in area behind the mobo tray. (That will also allow you to run the system laying on its back. You can't do that if the pump is pointed up toward the ceiling.) Now that it fits, it looks great. I love this case for mATX/ITX. For ATX it's not ideal unless you love having to spend a lot of time figuring out how to make things fit. (I don't enjoy that. I also hate puzzles.) The Z890 Apex is in the O11D XL EVO with the 5090. It was super easy because all of the connects and mobo layout on the Z890 Apex is the same as the X870E Apex. I only had to modify the two lines going to the CPU block because the orientation of the ports on the block was different than the Thermal Grizzy Mycro direct die block. Speaking of waterblock, I was going to use one of my Optimus Foundation blocks. The silver looks perfect with the white and silver on the mobo. I could not use it. CPU would overheat SEVERELY for some reason (109°C doing CPU-Z stress test). I disassembled it and found it spotless on the inside. Not sure why. Had to run to Microcenter this moring and grab an Alphacool Core 1 block. Now it works amazing. Almost don't need to delid now, but still will. Because I can, and it will be much better. Not because it is unavoidable due to stupid temps. It runs as cool as the bare die Ryzen 9 processors. The B850MPOWER is now on the open bench with the 9950X and 3070.