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Dont know if its everyone, but forum is running slow for me. I pinged Hiew to take a look when he gets up so apologies until then.

Making a rare appearance, good timing I guess. Not to be a nihilist about it, as nihilism is lame and pure evil, but part of the reason I've partially stepped out of the technology realm is because of how politicized it's become over the past few years. Won't get into it here, but the whole reason I got into all of this stuff was mostly as an escape from the world. Physical hardware had almost nothing to do with any societal/political issues besides maybe the pricing of hardware. Not only have availability and innovation fallen off, I can't even discuss my joy and appreciation for technology without it spiraling into a political discussion. Maybe it's just me being at university and being surrounded by more people that have a very active political life than the average joe, but it just sucks. I can't fully describe it, but I have lost most confidence in sharing this hobby of technology and computer hardware I have with others ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. The future will be brighter, but I'm impatient and want the future to be now, just as all of you guys probably want too. Hopefully you all will still be here to celebrate when things get better 🙂

Looks like my promotion is finally in the works. I am getting reports of multiple departments fighting to get me in their camp. Its a nice complement, but Im still treating it as non-existent until I get an offer letter. Due to my "detailed" approach, which is really just a really nice way of saying I demand details and ruffle quite a bit of feathers in the process. It has been deemed necessary for me to become an Engineer for Proof of Concept. Basically I work with onboarded clients and make the how-to for green IT'ish people to facilitate their orders. Still wont be able to justify a 5090 though lol

Yes, it does. Just remember that it's better to look good than to feel good.

We've seen the "barely off the line and onto the pallets for direct sale," song and dance before with both Cryptodemics we went through....no middle man just pure profit for the AIBs. I never thought the 5090 was discontinued. They've just redirected them to the AI market prioritizing that profit sector especially considering 5090s were being ripped apart and sent to China for AI deployment and I am sure elsewhere too. We just tend to narrow focus on China considering its economic and technological importance in the world. I posted earlier about not being a discontinuation and poking fun at Jensen: ---------------------------------------------------------------- New 7500X3D back from RMA working exactly like it should on the $237.50 after MC CC use 7500X3D + Asrock B850m bundle deal from Microcenter tested with the TG 2x8200 24GB sticks..... Refund already issued for the returned Noctua 420mm. I have the H9 Flow 2025 Edition here but right now all the components are installed still in the Phanteks but it will have to move seeing as I have no room to install the RAM cooling in the Phanteks due to its design with the Lian Li Lite 360 installed up top.... This is with the aRGB of the Lian Li not even connected...lots of default I'll need to address with OpenRGB or something similar to rein in the "Carebear Stare!" status once moved but hardware wise this is final boss form for the H9 Flow 2025 case change incoming....

Posts like this make my day. I was never part of the NBR crowd myself, but when Reciever asked me to help NBR find a new home, I was happy to jump in. I’m honored you guys have kept NBT as your home all these years. Thanks for the kind words!

hey guys, just wanted to say THANKS for all the years in this community, i know were living in our own small hardware nerd bubble here, but i also know that for most of us its a little release valve, a safe space to just drop out of the often exhausting real ilfe for a moment and be among likeminded absolutely over-the-top insane but in the end harmless and well-meaning peers. no worries, this is not a suicide note or goodbye or anything like that. just a bit of appreciation for y'all and a perspective check for me. dont be sad or angry or frustrated on what uve missed / dont have / uve lost / any pain youve went through. be thankful for what and especially who you have, cherish those little moments, stay curious, allow yourself the chance to just be wrong and learn something new, keep that basic childish wonder as long as you can. cheers guys! PS: and FFS take good care of your 5090s, now especially more than ever! WVPII FTW! 😄 PS2: lemme tag @Reciever and @Hiew to make sure our NBT stars also get this 😛

Dept. of non-humanity. It's all getting scaringly good. When Heavy Metal Ruled the 70s

We've banned millions of IP's at this point the bot nets are elusive buggers. Were looking at moving the forum to another server, Hiew may finally be up to getting donations setup but Im hoping to prod him along as I'd like to take some time off from work also.

Oh hohoho look what I found! https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/19351/intel-wireless-wi-fi-drivers-for-windows-10-and-windows-11.html https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/download/18649/intel-wireless-bluetooth-drivers-for-windows-10-and-windows-11.html?countrylabel=Asia%20Pacific&product=86451 Windows 10 drivers for a wi-fi 7 module you say? I thought wi-fi 7 required windows 11 (wink wink). I finally got the built in wi-fi module working in windows 10 on my Asus Maximus Apex encore motherboard this way. I'd been using a USB wi-fi adapter with wireless AX since I built this machine. I'm glad I get to free up that USB port now and get faster speeds as well. Note that these wi-fi and bluetooth drivers are for intel wireless modules. If your mortherboard has an intel wi-fi 7 module, these drivers should make it work in windows 10. I also found a windows 10 driver for qualcomm since I have an alienware m18 r1 AMD advantage edition (yeah, I know, BGA turdbook, but I can't get away from laptops as I still need them), and got that wi-fi module working in windows 10 as well. If your laptop also has a qualcomm wi-fi 6e module, these drivers should get it working in windows 10: https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=7vt5x I've had some adventures on the m18 and will report on those later. While it is a BGA laptop, it's good for what it is and what I use it for. I also got it for a good price and really needed a second laptop when I got it. It's an excellent linux laptop (since it has an AMD GPU), and it's excellent for my software suite (which has a performance advantage on AMD GPUs, the main reason I bought this laptop). The fact it has an AMD GPU also makes it perfect for use as a Lossless Scaling frame gen machine (hmm, this opens up possibilities like using it as a terminal for a backpackable sff desktop, hmmmm).

@Mr. Fox @Papusan I'm back to desktop after a small break of 15 years. The laptops don't cut anymore. Anyway I repurposed the RTX 4070 Super eGPU for Raptor Lake Refresh 14400f and measly 2x8GB DDR4 3200MTps, MSI bomber B760M AX211 WIFI mobo and 512GB SN3000 QLC drive as costs for DDR5 16GB 6400 has driven up to 500$ for basic ones and good ones sell for 1200$ per stick.I got them for 600$ including the case. Too many issues with eGPU on windows 11 and stopped trusting Defender to go for Kaspersky Standard AV as I started getting few indie games and apps early for review for my youtube channel. All of the desktop are in test bench as I'm sick with HFM which my sister had couple of weeks ago. Stock RM1 Cooler can't sustain 120W and 45C ambient. Tweaked few settings in TS and uploaded few unofficial DLSS 5 mod into Miles Morales (lot of artifacts indoor lights/env), NFS MW Redux (much more cleaner graphics/UI).

back from vacation gaiz! and damn... who wouldve thought that my hardware setup actually generates more returns than my actual stock portfolio?! LULZ but even at an average selling price of 6080€ (bought my Suprim at 3300€ incl. tax and shipping, so +84% markup now) theres literally zero incentive for me to sell. just goes to show that when it comes to my PC hardware hobby, the passion and fun i get out of it far outweighs any monetary benefit it might generate. since basically all our everyday expenses are pretty much on the frugal side (aside from travels), i guess u can call that my one splurgeful vice 😄 btw if anyone is looking for a game to max out the power envelope, im currently playing Resident Evil 2 Remake and it basically pegs the GPU at 700-800W, was surprised to see that! was also pleasantly surprised to see Control Resonant getting released, got it right away 🙂 games backlog is filling up very nicely with lots of awesome games im looking forward to! same way im looking forward to the AI bubble popping.... 😛

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Nice to see both of you again. Glad you are still kicking. @D2ultima my oldest son is 37. He will be 38 in January. I will be 64 in January. Being old is a relative phenomenon.

Herro all. Long time no see. I came here today for a couple of reasons. First, a question: Does anybody know if the latest BIOS update for my motherboard (Z690 Strix-F gaming wifi DDR5 version) has any issues I should avoid or is it safe to bump the BIOS up to it? Figured I might as well at some point since a bunch of features of this board quite simply do not work and some others are telling me they should function. Secondly, as you all know I'm not a benchmarker, but somebody today convinced me to run Steel Nomad DX12 with my system, so I clocked my card to hell and decided to crash it for funsies. It didn't crash. So uhh, here? Have my first run? It managed to get me all the way to 7th place worldwide for my hardware combination so that was surprising. So naturally, the next course of action was to run Port Royal and see if THAT crashed. It did not. This one also got me nicely on the leaderboards, 8th for my setup. So that was fun. I can still hang with the crowd I guess hehehehe Hope everyone's doing well! I'll be 37 in a couple weeks I'm becoming an old man. Need a cane and everything soon I swear.

F***ing ay, been playing electric guitar for xx years, parts of this is (again scaringly) from another dimension or planet. Maybe it is, planet AI :O) & no doubt, they are feeding LSD to the AI.

Microcenter officially no longer carries the 5090 as every card with no remaining stock still lingering is now marked as, "No Longer carried." Only card left in stock anywhere for 5090 in Microcenters is the Asus $11k+ after tax bundle and only two of my five localish (~45-100mi away) have 1 in stock each. Why are they still there? Most likely because third party sellers have other models for sale for $4k cheaper.....I'm sure they will eventually move..... Just about every model of 5080 in stock but cheapest price is the $1699 (on sale for $1669) GB WF SFF 5080. Same for the 5070ti but the cheapest model is the Ventus for $1199 on sale for $1149... Newegg is completely wiped out of 5090s as is Amazon and Best Buy. All we have are third party sellers with the lowest price being ~$7k for a Windforce 5090. Only 7 models of 5080s in stock on Newegg with the cheapest being the PNY for $1699.99. Cheapest 5070ti is the $1179 Eagle.... Ugh -------------- I received an email from BHPhoto today informing me the Gigabyte 9070xt Gaming is discontinued. I forgot I had it on my "inform me when in stock," from eons ago. We'll see where that goes.... Cheapest 9070xt is the $800 Reaper and prices are rumored to be going up again.... Certain cards can't be found stateside (GB Aorus Elite and PowerColor 9070xt Red Devil are two examples) as most likely AIBs are going to start consolidating which cards to carry based on profitability. Smart move is to offer lower tier cards at inflated prices to weather the price storm rather than have more expensive models get too close to 5070ti pricing and potentially rot in this PC gaming market downturn, but again, we will see.... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- I said it before and I'll say it again... 270k is an absolute banger and price:performance it is a monster. Toss in Microcenter bundle deals and it gets crazy.... ----------------------------------------------------------- No thanks. Picked up my on hold at Best Buy H9 Flow 2025 Edition yesterday for $109.99 that checks all my boxes especially with my army of P14 Arctic 140mm fans. I think I have at least 12 of them strewn about for my build out..... I had $90 in rewards sitting in my account from when our TV decided to fail earlier this year and we needed a new one so final price was $21.38 He was mostly disappointed in the assembly frustration and MSI trying to be "fancy" and causing access issues and usability. Beautiful to look at but pricey, frustrating to build in and hard to access features once built. I can't imagine dropping $800 on a case. Then again I never imagined dropping $2k on a GPU so who knows in the future?! 🤑

I have a ring for Jensen to kiss. It's called a sphincter.

Yes, I just tested with my water cooled 5080 and confirmed it works 100%. This needs to be on the chiller to avoid overheating, but even with the insane thermals without the chiller and thermal throttling it came within striking distance of my Speedway high score.

SO it has all of the features of mvolt+ extreme plus the vBIOS features? Nice. Will have to check it out. mvolt+ extreme has been awesome because I have been able to run both of my 5080's with a 1000W power limit, and both GPUs use it all. It's crazy how badly the Green Goblin has gimped the performance of 5080. (Probably to make the gap between 5080 and 5090 as large as possible.)

https://github.com/b00nz/mVolt/releases This new version of mVolt is insane! It basically has vBIOS editing! No more need to disable secure boot or mess with drivers. You load your vBIOS file, set the limits you want, and hit restart driver and boom unlocked vBIOS power limits/current/memory offsets with any vBIOS file. It also survives reboot and then you can use MSI Afterburner for overlay, etc.

Probably a long shot but does anyone have a pair of RTX 3090 or 3090Ti they’d be willing to sell for a good price? wanna play around with nvlink 3090s next lol

Thank you. I finally got it finished and set in place where I intend to use it. Very solid build and more "portable" than most desktops can be. I forgot how hot air cooled DDR5-8400 can get so I added that articulating fan to blast it is air. I am going to be selling a SFF build with legacy parts (X79 Rampage Gene, 32GB of quad channel and RX 590) on FB. It is so little and cute, and It even has an easy carry handle on the roof of the case. I think it should sell quickly for the $375 that I intend to ask for it. it does a great job with 1080P gaming with ultra or high settings on most titles, and medium settings on the most demanding titles. (As long as there is no ray tracing to turn it into a slide show.) Yes, it is definitely better. It was almost unusable before, so let's hope whatever was messed up stays fixed.

Even with this 270K Plus being an unimpressive silicon sample, it performs at a level that takes a great deal of effort and a better than average 9950X/X3D/X3D2 silicon sample to achieve with 8 additional threads; and this sample's weak IMC still outperforms the flagship Ryzen SKUs in memory performance. The contempt for Intel's decisions such as continued use of Atom cores and doing away with hyperthreading caused Core Ultra to be disliked based on principle rather than practice, and understandably so. Those were the reasons I gave Zen 5 a chance to begin with, but it hasn't been given proper credit for being the better product.

The Apex Twins have a new sibling. I just got the hardware set up and in the process of installing Linux and Windoze. No tuning yet.

K|NGP|N coming back to the OC scene: "K-Pop Kung Fu Class" as a reason for switching studios was not on my bucket list of reasons to move to another location.... Looks like he's going with Asus..... New OC channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClS4F_eKD3PCihwI9ZvrdwQ Welcome back! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Same boat.... I thought about selling but I switched to my Power Devil 9070xt then 5080 in my main rig for a few days and watching those frames seriously drop and sitting at 100% util more often than not in WoW 4k ultra 10 sent me scurrying back to my 5090. Yeah, I could pocket $3-4k+ profit right now and then what? Sit around and bitch whine and moan about being capped out and not getting the performance I want for the next 12-18 months just to see the prices of the 6090 requiring a kidney assuming it launches by Q1 2028? I'd rather enjoy the here and now with state of the art performance for the next 15 months if not more.... Have you given your 5090 the mvolt+ treatment yet? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- That is awesome news @Reciever! Know your worth and demand no less. Sometimes you have to be proactive and other times those around you will see and acknowledge your quality work and reward you thusly. Now, just go ahead and finance that 5090..... 🤣 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Glad to see you taking the small, but meaningful, steps to right the ship and being able to drive again has to feel good. Losing self autonomy is never a good thing on any scale and driving is a big one. Just keep trying like you said to stick around and keep us up to date on the tech sector doom and gloom. 🙂 --- I am not shocked at that EVGA report. Nvidia and Jensen needed AIBs and gamers years ago but at every chance afforded to them well before the AI BS, they made sure to put the screws to AIBs and cook the books with crypto and continue to push prices as far as able while casting their illusions of MSRP and deliver less for more each and every cycle. EVGA went out on a high note with their GPUs and Motherboards and downsized to peripherals. I don't blame them one bit. --- The cable, according to TG data collected so far with the WVP2, is the primary issue regardless of MSI burning up or other makers like the PNY reported a day or two before this one. It was an Asrock PSU. In the comments: He literally recommended over and over to his friend to get a WVP2 or at least a better 3.1 compliant PSU. With the WVP2 I am pretty sure he would have immediately seen a high imbalance on a pin or two but without a WVP2, or a 3.1 PSU that reports pin monitoring or an Astral. Without any of these reporting protections, you are basically piddling blindly in the wind every time you use your 5090. Before my WVP2 and MSI sending me an Ai 1600T PSU, I purposely used the included tentacle just in case for warranty claims. Switched to the MSI PSU and its included 12vhpwr cable keeping MSI completely responsible for the warranty chain and then added a WVP2 and their warranty on top of it for extra added support. De8auer said they haven't had a single report of a WVP2 burning up yet from WVP2 to GPU connection. At this point, anyone running a 5090 without a WVP2, a pin monitoring compatible PSU or at the least using the tentacle to keep any burning issues warranty claims valid are playing with fire. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ditto, I'm holding onto my 5090 for at least another year if not more. Zero reason to sell. I'll re-evaluate the landscape next October/Nov when the 6000 series is potentially on the horizon. Hopefully the AI bubble will have popped or at least deflated a little by then. That makes sense with the 5090FE. The value proposition of it getting it for retail was its main draw by far. Price not being an issue, Astral is a sick card and removing price as a factor, I'd take an Astral over my Vanguard all day everyday on industrial aesthetics alone albeit I did find my Vanguard had the best silicon in my testing between it, the Astral and the Ventus but I would have to rerun those tests in the here and now with mvolt+. Whew, I'm glad you kept the overall better sample with the best fclk. It did seem the best on paper. Have you done any 8000+ testing yet? I agree on pressure. I was having issues with the delidded 9850X3D and the TG Heatspreader with 8000+ testing suddenly failing. One flaw I've found with the TG HS is heat expansion and cooling eventually loosens up the screws a bit. This might not be a problem with a tight pairing and a block keeping the pressure where it needs to be, but right now I'm still sorting out the Z-height issues so the pairing isn't as tight as it could or should be atm so eventually over the course of hours or days, my memory settings will fail. I dug through some older AM5 compliant heatsinks I have on the shelf and found a set of shorter by ~2.5mm non-spec standoffs I plan on swapping in to compensate to see if that helps along with shoring up proper pairing pressure to get temps to be a bit better. At the moment, I am not super pleased with the TG HS, but we'll see after this final testing. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I still need to get back to the G16 for some Bios tuning and testing but my desktop has been my focus atm. Yeah, three of them showed up. Two sold for $3500-3700. One was delisted but it had scam written all over it at the time. Do a completed sales history search on 9955HX3D 5090. Purchasing from an official outlet definitely was the way to go and get that three year warranty. With the way the market is going and offerings, it will be the best overall for the next few years. We won't see a 6000 mobile refresh till 2nd or 3rd quarter or 2028 at this rate. I plan on playing both retail and forever. I've always played Paladins since launch but I also alt druids and hunters from time to time. During Vanilla, I was all about my Paladin, priest and hunter. Priest had Benediction in Vanilla and Hunter had Rhok'Delar. I was guild leader with a top raiding guild back in the day and once we had MC and BWL on farm, loots eventually trickled down since we ran DKP globally and once everyone was geared up enough I let alts tag along for runs to get some good loot too. We had a server first Hand of Ragnaros but could NOT get the second half of the binding to drop for Thunderfury! 🤣 I burned out halfway through BWL and went casual after that. WoW stopped being fun and became more a job and managing egos. I'm pretty sure I am going to main a druid this time around and alt a hunter again.

The 5090 pricing is really crazy right now for sure. I have not been tempted to sale my 5090 Astral, but my brother sure has been pestering me about selling it lol. Amazing GPU! I like it so much better than my FE, and I really liked my FE. But I think most of the likeness for the FE came from the low price and ability to actually get one fairly quickly after launch. I have decided to keep the 9950X3D2 that runs the 2,200fclk. The IMC has no issues stabilizing tuned 6400c26 with a mere 1.500v VDD, and 1.400v vddq. Using the new to me G.Skill 6000c26 sticks, and reducing VDDP voltage to 1.050v, has made its IMC feel just as strong as the other one. And now I actually got its tPHYRDL’s matching on both ram channels with both at 35, which is great! I noticed on AMD that they are sensitive to waterblock mounting pressure. And maybe this last mount last night swapping back to the 2,200fclk chip, must have gotten something perfect. I swapped between these two chips and unknown amount of times. I think I ran each one at least (3) times. This one also boosts higher in games. No PBO+ or anything like that is enabled. It’s running higher clocks on average by about 70-100Mhz. The AMD CCD0 and CCD1 in Windows is also quite good! I see my games typically use CCD0, while windows services are targeting the slower CCD1. It’s pretty amazing to see this work so well. For now I am hanging on to that 5090 Astral.

Yeah, it does. If a person had the soldering skills and DDR5 BGA template, that would be a cheap way of "making" RAM as long as they didn't need 8000+ MT/S speeds. Congratulations, brother. I am glad that your dedication to excellence, faithfulness and hard work is finally being recognized. I'm glad you are being facetious, otherwise I would be concerned.

thats the kind of stuff that reminds of the good ol' NBR days 🙂 very nice! no justifications necessary, JUST DO IT! 😄 at 6000+ bucks its a steal and totally worth it hahaha

De8auer going over data from problems detected with the WVP2.... ~9 months in production data sample window compared against WVP1 dataset Sold 5x as many WVP2 as WVP1 WVP1 reports of melting/issues ZERO reports of melting WVP2 units 98% of the cases are cable issues 2% were WVP2 replacements for various reasons up to and including a faulty connector 0% were the GPU connector itself... Noctua edition has beautiful refinements and obviously runs quieter. Noctua uses a different heatsink and PCB for full PWM control vs just DC control on the original. Original WVP2 price on TG website is $140.28 Noctua Edition is $222.18 So Noctua is ~58% more Extrapolating on Amazon, the current WVP2 is 169.99 so expect potentially to pay ~268 on Amazon when it finally arrives.

If it were up to me, NVIDIA would be legally bound and on the hook for all of the costs and footing the entire bill across the board for all GPU and PSU connector meltdowns, with no room for exceptions or fine print exclusions, because they are the idiots that ushered in the crappified connector and gave the OEMs an ultimatum requiring them to use an engineering abortion. If that were true, I suspect it would no longer be used and everyone would be back to using legacy 8-pin PCIe power connectors.

Nvida and China is best pals. And if they want something from Jensen's company, they will get it. Meanwhile, export-restricted Nvidia AI chips continue to reach China despite the restrictions, bypassing the Trump administration's efforts in the process. China’s tech giants drop $35 billion on export-compliant Nvidia RTX Pro 5500 workstation GPU orders to power AI ambitions, according to reports — ByteDance, Alibaba and Tencent order 3 million cards despite warnings that only 10% of orders are fulfillable Surging demand for Nvidia's chips in China isn't stopping... Chinese technology giants ByteDance, Alibaba and Tencent have reportedly spent over $35 billion on orders for more than 3 million Nvidia RTX Pro 5500 workstation GPUs. The huge order for the RTX Pro 5500, fully compliant with U.S. restrictions on exports of AI-capable GPUs to China Hmmm. My oldest son is born early Feb 1989. Does that mean I'm old too?😀

Well said. Thank you for helping build this place for us.

I've often said, and ended posts here, with being thankful to even be in the position to have the ability to purchase and play with some of these toys and high tech items. I have a nice pile of hardware amassed. Only thing I'm on the lookout for atm is a decently priced set of the G.Skill 6000 CL26 1.40 sticks. I could use a few more NVME drives too but overall I'm good. After the shutdown and demise of NBR, @Reciever and @Hiew picking up the reins and running with it with NBT really let us carve out our corner again and just let it flow. I always like it when a long time member from yore discovers NBT and pokes their head in to say hi! And yeah, the WVPII is definitely a blessing on my 5090 which some say could rise to $10k in the new year as supply dries up. I have yet to have my cable deviate or yell at me yet (I'm running the MSI yellow cable included with the MEG 1600T), but I've got it locked down. 🙂

Holy crap.. So that’s why the price shot up. I guess word got out about EOL. So maybe xx90 is gone forever and xx80 will be king again. I suppose it doesn’t hurt for 5090 owners right now. And maybe in the next gen, we will have a viable xx80 or xx80Ti that’s actually fast! This may be a good thing in a few years. AI has gotten ridiculous. And they are gobbling the 5090, so maybe they’ll be uninterested in 5080 or 6080 or 7080. Makes sense though, they want to sell more fresh releases RTX Pro 5500’s for MORE MONEY! And they need those 5090 cores! 💀

Personally, I think prices are going to go higher. 5090s will now dry up everywhere and be hoarded for personal use or those who reach a, "I can't say no," offer will sell theirs off for what will most likely be AI deployment either domestic or abroad. Locally, there are a few buyers openly offering $5500 cash for any and all 5090s. They will come to you, test your card, hand you a fat stack and carry on. When they say, "Any brand, as long as it is working we pay $5500," you have a pretty good idea of where those cards are going.... Pricing will be fractionally in sync with the RTX 5500 and as eventually GB202 5090 dies are limited, even the RTX 5500 will go up in price along with the 5090s still out there. Basically, as long as purchasing and converting a 5090 into an AI card makes financial sense / profitable, pricing will continue to trend upward. Luckily, I have this sub $1k 5080 and 2x 9070xt (one being in the wife's system) cards so if the right offer suddenly appeared, I can't see myself turning down $7k but not till next year at the earliest and probably summertime at that. You also have to think that this EOL is fresh and brand new and whatever stock is out there is going to evaporate quickly and then the second hand market turns into a resource strapped buy/sell with prices trending up. Like I said above, I'm still holding onto mine for a few reasons and one of them being I expect prices to trend up a bit more before leveling off in relation to the RTX 5500 pricing. I'm still playing on the 9850X3D + 5080 config atm as I've been too busy/lazy to break down the current test setups and start the transition to final boss form. The performance hit is real in WoW. I'm not used to seeing full utilization and sitting under 100fps quite often but for the right $$$ I could live with it but it has to be a price point that is high enough to override going years with a significant and noticeable performance drop. $6k which would be a $4k profit won't make or break me in any which way, shape or form and I don't need the money, so is it worth the loss of superior performance for the next year+? I still get aggravated when buyers get salty over pricing. I've come to realize they fully understand current market conditions. They are just hoping to sob story / brow beat you into giving them yesteryear level pricing....

I was out of town for NYCC, so I just got a chance to watch this. I liked what I saw. He's coming into it with rested, fresh eyes and open to BTF and other changes. That's a good thing. He isn't jaded. You KNOW those parts are binned AF especially with his buddy Shamino working there. I am sure that 9950x, 270k and Astral 5090 BTF are gonna RIP. Cardboard boxed MBs including 2x AMD and 1x Intel. Asus basically sent him $10k worth of hardware and you know what? I'm ok with it. Dude is a legend and I'm glad he's come back home. Oh they most certainly will except as much pricier AI cards. 5090 resell values will be directly tied to the pricing of GB202 formerly 5090 die cards so they will plateau around $6k-$7k unless prices continue to rise for the AI 5090 aka RTX 5500 which is estimated to cost ~$9200 with 84GB of memory but I suspect it will go for more and rise quickly and 5090s could eventually hit ~$8k. Eventually 5090s even on the second hand market will evaporate as they are snatched up for AI. If they start to resell for $7k+ by next year, there is a very strong chance I will let mine go but we will see in the moment. Either way, the 5080 GB203 is fully tapped out so the only way to see a true xx80TI card would have to be an even more cut down GB202 but with the way AI is snatching up everything, that ~15k core count card would probably be paired with 64GB of memory and sold as yet another AI product at this rate. Ironically, it is the limitations of the grid that could be one of the factors that slows down the onslaught of AI. It will hit a wall either through lack of buildout resources, debt fatigue, failure on ROI or all of thee above. Bad enough when they would message you telling you "a friend" had what you were looking for and to email them at *****@*****.tld, but now they're trying to use the old phishing approach of making names appear as close as possible in messaging. Definitely going to snag that. The amount of adjustability and features being unlocked recently is awesome. Everyone checking their ASIC scores? 🤣 I suspect they did it because the GB203 in the 5080 is full fat and to offer a 5080 Super in the future could only be a power bump so they went ultra conservative with its power profile. Of course if current rumors are true and they discontinue consumer level 5080 and 5090 models and only offer a 5090 24GB model, it will suddenly be a 600w capable unit too.....thank you Jensen....

Of course now it seems its responsive again :/ We'll keep an eye on it.

I love my PC hobby, but I've been Mac and iphone as my core setup for years now for work along with an iPad. With all the cross platform tools, there's a reason many of the big houses now deploy Macbooks for dev work. I agree with @Mr. Fox on this one @Papusan. You have to attack the problem on all levels and the reason Microcenter implements a one per household / ID checked policy on many products IS to prevent scalpers and also in this case straw buyers and agents from buying up 5090 products and just either finding a way to sell/ship them as is or ripping the cores and memory off the board and shipping them that way. This isn't much tighter than their valid ID on file / One GPU per month quota they had during the Pandemicryptoboom. It is also why Microcenter routinely has items in stock while you can't find them any place else online because bots don't work when you can only reserve items online for pickup and then have to eventually enter the store front to purchase and pick up in person. In short, on any level, any potential scalper/straw buyer/agent that is turned away by this new requirement opening up even one unit for a legit customer is a win. I agree the main culprits are the corporations and big AIBs/resellers, but would you rather scalpers and straw buyers be able to walk in and just buy out everything they want? Toss out the baby with the bathwater? Trust me, if Microcenter decided to go all Newegg/Amazon and just volume sell online, their stores would be even barer than they are now for many products. $7k desktops anyone? It is the one thing still hanging on atm for 5090s..... As for the 5070, at MSRP to me it was one of the sweet spot cards I called around launch. Yeah for a bit there it was running like dogwater.... I just load it up and go get something to drink... 🤣 I usually don't complain. I know you guys are all over it when you get time. Ruh Roh! You tend to keep things in threes.... This means either one of the Apex's is on its way out or you're heading towards being done with AM5 before Nova drops 🤣 Looks nice! Again, I was tempted to snap it up but I've yet shockingly found myself with a pile of hardware again that I will have to wait till January to downsize. I'm on the cusp of kicking myself up into another tax bracket because of this year and I definitely don't need that.... Or I am going to have to go the local/FB/CL route which I haven't done in a bit to offload some gear.

Indeed I gave it many chances to get it working but Windows 11 being sloppy simply ruined the experience for me. One more thing is I switched to Mac for video edits and developer workflow from linux and windows (almost spent 15 years in making a perfect setup) and an iPhone after Pixel shipped an update last year that broke Cellular and Wifi calling doesn't work and there's open issues in google issue tracker without a fix for older Pixel 6 and 7s.

Nice to see you, and happy that you've ditched the notion that turdbooks are OK. The harsh reality is they are garbage. Please keep sharing what you're doing and post some pics for us, brother. If you remember from the GamersNexus investigation, China actually has people buying new and used in the US and shipping banned GPUs to China. So, I'm totally supportive of this and would like to see more retailers taking action like this. Showing ID is normal and touches every part of life and the only resistance to it is a very recent development that is politically motivated. If a person is using a credit card they will have to show ID for that anyway if the retailer is doing their job correctly. Will this fix the problem? No. But, it is a paper cut and thousands of them can lead to death. Have to start somewhere. Hopefullly, other retailers will follow. Nice to see you again. I hope you have fully recovered from your accident. You're right about the political crap. Even the comments above (sorry). The university scene is probably one of the worst examples of sheeple that are brainwashed by a huge agenda. It's horrible and we have seen some of the worst examples now that the balance of power has shifted away from the left. I don't like it either. (I do like the conservative shift, but not the irrational reaction from the insane folks on the left.) People insert things in subtle ways and for many people it is difficult to ignore nonsense when it is obvious what they are doing. It is trolling. We no longer have a live-and-let-live culture like most of us have known for our entire lifetime. If people were as passionate about living decent and Godly lives and doing good to others, America and the world would be a better place. Politics and destroying those that hold a different view is their new religion. Very sad. Eternity won't be kind to them.

Nice to see you back bro Vasu. And yep, desktop all the way. Modern Jokebooks is just a bigger tablet with KB😀 Today's joke. Smuggling by now will be fixed. Just handle over your ID. And will MC ban you from their store if you sell your old hardware (to friends) outside US now?🧐 Nice seeing the retail follow up the governments chips ban, and stop the smuggling of nvidia chips (sarcasm). China will get needed chips anyway. So in the end, the random US customer is the one dealing with ID checks and export declarations at the checkout. Meanwhile, the larger export operations these rules are supposed to address have already found cheaper and more efficient ways around them. Micro Center now requires RTX 5090 buyers to show ID and sign no-export declaration

Alienware 14 R1. 3DMark 11 score of 4,568. Please let me know if this is good or bad for what the laptop is, lol. This was my first time using 3DMark. I decided to use 3DMark 11 since my graphics card is on DX11 and that version of 3DMark is free. Benchmark was ran at my laptops native resolution of 1366x768p. Hopefully I have done it correctly. Link to 3DMark results: https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/17007367 Screenshots attached.

good to know im not the only bonkers hardware head here 😄 been following the mvolt+ development closely and downloading every new version once it dropped, but havent really gotten back into GPU tuning yet, aside from playing around with the tool to check functionality. havent finished tuning my RAM yet after the BIOS update (just takes sooo damn long, ugh!) and also been playing RE franchise like a madlad. between that, my lil toddler, work and just everyday life, aint nobody got time for anything anymore! but yeah, enjoying my hardware setup to the fullest whenever i have an hour or two to spare....god i hope nothing gives out on me anytime soon in this horrible market LOL but so far everything humming along smoothly, just need to do some dusting it seems (high airflow has its downsides i guess 😄) btw, looking to upgrade my Pixel 7 Pro pretty soon, eagerly awaiting the OnePlus 16 launch on 12-Oct, pretty much ticks all the boxes for me in a phone. IKIK, its likely only gonna be a China only release, but who cares, ive imported china phones before and was happy i did it 🙂

You are in our thoughts and prayers, brother. Glad things are moving in the right direction again. I hope the rest of the family is well.

I have news, very good ones, the P5000 arrived, i filed the radiator a bit more after i dremeled it yesterday, i put it in, and half-assembled the upper half of laptop. I got into Linux Mint 18.3 and it saw the gpu, with ./nvflash --list then i flashed the vbios just like DynamiteZerg did in 2018 and after the reboot it went straight into Windows10. After some fighting with NVCleaninstall i present you another example of P5000 working in Dell Precision M6800 I want to thank everyone for the provided help, will post some updates later after i reassemble the laptop fully and test it in some benchmarks.

Johnny Cash - Hurt Because - Best cover ever. Trent Reznor even said the song no longer belonged to him.

This is nice... Double trouble and stupidity on top. What a combo. All PNY GPUs that require a 16-pin (12VHPWR / 12V-2x6) input include a PNY-approved power cable or adapter in the box. This cable is the only configuration covered under warranty. If a third-party power cable, adapter, or PSU cable is used and damage occurs - including melting, burning, overheating, or deformation of the connector - PNY cannot accept the product under warranty. Damage caused by non-PNY cables falls under the responsibility of the manufacturer of that cable or power supply.