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FedEx showed up, but no 5090’s on the truck. Looked like an unmarked delivery van. Dang…Not looking good. EDIT: FedEx truck came back!!!

I don't have WoW, but here's this. CP2077 4K w/ RT and PT SOTR 4K w/ Highest Graphics settings Looks like I need to do something about the memory temperatures. The memory chips must need thicker pads. The core max is 61°C but the memory junction is 90°C. But, it runs 3350+ on core with no issues. (I have not tried higher than that.)

That’s fantastic. Nice graphics cards!!! Since I gave away my sons 3060, we juiced his system up with a RTX 3090 Founders Edition! It blows his hair back now in 1440P now lol. He is 12, and this is his first “Real Man’s” graphic card. 😂 Sons Rig: 12900KS/Z790 LGA1700/ DDR5 6400c32/ RTX 3090 FE/ EVGA 1300P+

Opened the box. The 4 small foams in each corners saved the inner box. And as you should know... Asus offer cheapo glossy thin cardboard boxes. There is no class with Asus. They go cheap where they can. Even for their flagship products. The box that come with the HOF is 100 times better. It's just a box... But I'm an collector and prefer to take good care of all my products and in an nice box. Cheap or expensive doesn't matter. A good quality box should be minimum to ask for when you pay this amount money for flagship cards... And for the records... I would be equal happy with a 10 years card. But what I don't like... Pay xx80 prices for xx60 tier cards. Hence you'll never see me buy brand new cards from mid tier class. The 5090 Astral looks like a small xx70 class card vs the monstrous creature 4090 HOF. Hmmm. Nope. It increased the value. Crocs ain't cheap here home😁 And it's time jou buy a pair. And in black😎 What reduce the value of an Asus Astral 5090.... Huang's autograph on the card. Hmmm. Loads of 5070's in the retail here. Every single of them is massively overpriced. The so called market don't work. Gigabyte 5070 at $871.65 without tax. Or better say close to 59% above the MSRP. It seems https://www.proshop.no/Grafikkort/GIGABYTE-GeForce-RTX-5070-AORUS-Master-12GB-GDDR7-RAM-Grafikkort/3331090 Nvidia need to ship 10 times as many cards if the prices shall come back to more normal levels... And not only 5070's. Is this Nvidia's answer on AMD's coming xx60 class cards? And will gamers buy 8GB xx60 cards in 2025? The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti and RTX 5060 have reportedly been delayed until mid-April and May.

Grabbed the ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral LC OC - $2,966.35 USD today. 1 out of 3 card was available for the whole scandinavian market (4 countries). Next delivery of 5090 cards from the retail shops... Unknown. Loads of 5070's is ofloaded today here home. And a few 5070Ti and 5080. I see there is still 3 out of 10 pc of Asus 5080 Astral OC available for purchase here home now 6.5 hour after the slip. $1660 USD. I think Asus have reached the limits what they can sell their 5080 flagship for right now. I doub't they increase the prices in the pace they have done. And no other brands 5080 is listed yet you can buy Asus 5080 cards. That speak loudly about the price point Asus want. As a side note... Gigabyte want $1730 for their best 5080. Not sure what's up with Gigabyte this gen cards. The cards should be delivered to Papusan's plaza within the next 5-7 days. And exactly the card I tried to buy.

I GOT IT!!!! RTX 5090FE on the way! Man, the support of this community and trust of this forum and also overclock.net is pure astounding. I was able to get the funds together and secure my order for a 5090FE at $1,999. Paying more than $1,999 is too much for me. This is very reasonable. Looking back now, I originally had a budget of $2,800 range. Anyways, I think Nvidia saw how much I was hating on them, and they sent the email to see if I’d still bend over for them 😂 (I did of course)

Now without pigtailed connectors lol. Grabbed the corsair type 4 premium single end cables.

My $600 equivalent (when you account for VAT) 9070 XT arrived EDIT: PCI-E Gen 5 on a riser no issue. Stock https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/127667606 100mv undervolt stock clocks https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/127668715

I managed to get a close to MSRP 9070xt reaper from powercolor that fits in my case. It will arrive tomorrow 😊

I received my 4090 laptop in the mail today. This was purchased with funds intended for an RTX 5090. However, since the RTX 5090 does not actually exist, (I’m not really near any local stores to really buy one) so I just gave up with trying to buy one online, and moved on with life. With my job, I’m finding my self having to stay at my desk 7a-7p. It’s paying well. But getting promoted to an operations manager requires me to play at a level of pure beast mode/be the best mode/no excuses allowed. 😂 So, I really needed a laptop for constant monitoring and check-in’s etc. First impressions: incredible panel! 😱 .. It’s just like OLED, maybe even better sometimes since it’s 1,000 nits bright and all.. No back light bleeding anywhere, I don’t even see any glowing at all. It’s 250Hz/ 16:10 aspect ratio, and 2560x1600/ Mini LED. So it’s really beautiful! You can run the brightness on 5% and it looks perfectly normal brightness like a regular monitor lol. CPU: 14900HX, feels very fast just using the machine. With fans silent it’s idling about 55-60c while downloading a game on Steam. With fans at 100% it’s not too bad. It’s LOUD! But the pitch and tone of the noise doesn’t make it annoying at all. It’s just noisy. But not annoying. GPU: Haven’t really gotten an opportunity to really use it just yet. But I’m expecting good things. It’s a 175w 4090 Mobile. Performance: So, I’m not expecting 4090 desktop power here obviously. But, it has DLSS3, and Frame Gen, and it’s 2560x1600! If my old 3090 Kingpin had frame Gen, I’d have never sold it! These are amazing features to have. Since Nvidia and AIB’s a like just recently killed the affordable gaming market for average people like me all together, buying a 4090 laptop seemed like the only way to go. Since even a RTX 5090 laptop MSI Raider will set you back an eye watering $5,000+ after taxes. Value: It’s a $2,000 dollar laptop. So, I think it’s going to offer a great value for what you get. A whole computer capable of decent gaming performance that is portable. Overall: This is a BIG laptop being 18 inches. I’ve never owned an 18” laptop before. The screen doesn’t feel like I’m squinting or leaning forward to find things like my last 15” laptop. And the 16:10 offers a little more desktop space to get things done. I really like the machine.

My impression is this is better than average. I haven't finished tuning for the PBO profile, but it is definitely WAY BETTER than the CPU installed in the Gene. Once I delid this and go bare die in an Apex mobo I think it will be even better. I think I am pushing the limits of this EK CR360 Dark AIO. See PBO settings below. I will see if I can take the Curve Optimizer higher than 25/20 sometime tomorrow. Right now it is not far off from my manual overclock with fixed core ratios. I am still working on trying to figure out the B850 Gigabyte AORUS Elite board. The behavior is very different than the Gene or the Cabron. I am starting to figure it out, but haven't gotten as far as memory fine tuning yet. This is just the XMP profile with tREFI maxed out and tFAW set to the bottom value available in the BIOS (20). I bumped the voltage from 1.450V to 1.550V. Even though it's got some degree of weirdness to it, I am actually more impressed with this B850 AORUS board than I expected to be. I was not very happy initially, but it was because I was struggling with getting things tuned because of the very different behavior/response to BIOS settings compared to what works on the Gene and the Cabron before it.

Just bought myself a Sapphire 280X 3GB Tri-X should be here next weekend :)

keep us posted on the SP ratings for both your 9950X cpus, im highly interested. i was literally SHOCKED when i saw the load temps on my stock lidded 9950X3D with CB2024 and CB R23... 200W package load maxed out at a measly 76C, with average temps even lower. at first i thought i mightve messed something up with the fan settings in bios after upgrading, but nope...it is just THAT much colder, absolutely insane. my 7950X easily broke 90C, sometimes creeping up to 94-95C depending on the ambient temps. delidding and swapping out the IHS should result in craaaaazy OC headroom, both for CPU and RAM 🙂

Not the best quality and not a youtuber, but good info from Walton. My best guess... Forget many 5090's at MSRP within it's life cycle. Lower end cards, sure you will see them at MSRP. But AI and scalpers will pick up any 5090's they will find. Export them over to China is also profitable even if prices is well above MSRP. Nvidia's "partners" around in Asia/China will for sure help with needed vram packages. Edit.... 5090@+48GB GDDR7 will be very capable graphics cards for AI workloads. Same as with older 4090@48GB cards. Thanks, AMD🤮 This. I have talked about this several times the last two years. An awful direction for PSUs. Hardware reviewers/Tech tubers give PSUs top reviews even if the products barely offer power connectors (thats under features). Nice see editors at Tomshardware are able to see the same. Not too early! This topic should be done 1.5 years ago so PSU manufacturers could see what they are doing wrong. Why not offer both? Tell you... Next level of cost savings. Aka it just follow the modern tech trend. Offer less for more. Is less more @Mr. Fox🤔 GPU compatibility dilemma as more high-end power supplies ditch 8-pin connectors in favor of new 16-pin It seems the industry is catching on to the 16-pin standard, even at the cost of reduced compatibility with other GPUs. Unless you get a 12V-2x6 to 8-pin adapter, these PSUs are incompatible with most modern-day GPUs from AMD, Intel, and even Nvidia (RTX 30 and prior), apart from a few specific variants. All things considered, equipping PSUs with multiple 16-pin connectors is counterintuitive for most consumers, especially given the standard's original goal to simplify cabling. For maximum user flexibility, a PSU design should include one 12V-2x6 connector alongside multiple 8-pin connectors to accommodate high-power GPUs from either brand.

offers popping up at just +100€ over my budgeting limit....

A 7 pound, 15 ounce baby monster will be headed your way tamale. Now I just need to sell the monitor. Those are hard to sell. Lots of people prefer to buy $100 trash displays from Target, Walmart and Amazon just because it is new and don't want to pay the same amount for something about 5 times better, LOL.

While Reddit is infinitely larger than our humble platform, what I can say is our moderation here is much more fair. PM sent!

Slightly better than my 9950X pos I sent back to AMD @~43000 cb23 🙄

Ewwww

Hi just need to wrap in his 5090 FE😀 No need to change out that tiny 12V-2x6 power cable. Or just send over the card to @Maxware79 for some color change.

ALL ROPs are present! This thing looks amazing in person. Draining the fluid for Koolance red 702 tomorrow.

3000Mhz Core @ 1000mv 2700Mem @ Fast Timing Max temp 47C but a 25C delta for Hotspot I was going to replace the TIM this last weekend but I forgot that the previous owner nearly stripped the screws, I need to get some replacements first before applying PTM7950 new threads (in the news section) as it allows for SEO scrapers to find the headline which leads to more people posting in those threads. It was in my view the main reason why OCN had the audience that it had in its hayday.

There are lots and lots of casual gamers. A lot more than those that refer to themselves as "hardcore gamer" (LOL). They use cheap parts and turn down settings, and they are pleased to no end to get 60 FPS at 1080p. Probably the majority. They have RGB so they pretend it is awesome even when it is not. No idea if it is accurate, but what I have heard is they overclock pretty well, but performance does not scale and actually might see some regression in performance without a loss of stability.

Steam hardware survey begs to differ: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ Budgets never change. Real life never changes. Those on controlled budgets can only spend so much and they will continue to find the best solution that fits within their budget. This is why even generations ago, mid tier and below class cards dominate and will continue to dominate. We live in a bubble in this thread not realizing how good we have it overall. Go to just about any Joe Gamer and talk about dropping $1k+ on a gaming GPU let alone $2k+ for a gaming GPU and they look at you like you're nuts. Most gamers just want to load up games and play and have no problems adjusting settings (or letting the game adjust to their hardware) and playing. They don't measure fps or benchmark or tune systems. They slap in a card (or have a place slap it in for them or buy a pre-built) and just use their computers as is. I do agree with you the ASP will continue to increase simply because inflation and costs continue to increase and companies will not give up their profits in any way, shape or form unless demand sharply decreases. I would argue though most gamers are more than happy with their mid tier purchases. And the last three cycles have shown us, and will again when all is said and done, that the 060/070 cards will dominate in market share.

nice loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong desktop 😄 yeah the image quality is something u may read a lot about in reviews but i find it something different still to actually experience it in person 🙂 enjoy those new displays! ikr, lets see what an AMD RTX-4090 equivalent would look like on equal power footing! welp....this just goes to show how dire the situation must be at Intel that they go the bean counter route now....ugh LOL i had to laugh hard at this, so basically owning a 4090 absolutely MAXIMIZES your chances of "winning" that 5090 purchase lottery... thats crazy. 322 out of total 820 4090 owners got an email, thats 39.3% 37 out of 1847 non-4090 owners got en email, thats 2.0% thus, owning a 4090 increases your chances by 20-fold(!!!), insane 😄

I think now is the time to show off this RTX 3080. Who would have thought that this 12 year old M18xR2 would stretch its wings so far. I may try RTX 4090 in the future but its pricey. CPU score will be low because it's an old 4-core. I didn't bother going over 4.5Ghz since the 3080 is a 115w TDP model so won't help it much. I think @Mr. Fox @Papusan @Raidriarwould get a kick out of this. Perfect example of how MXM would have continued fine. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2

I got the B650E and a 7700 because the value was very decent, the 9xxx series is not that interesting but the next gen might be with the 12 core CCDs.

I played a bit of BF 2042 last night and the 9070 XT is boosting to like 3375, most of the time running 3100-3200 MHz. This is with a -0.060 undervolt and +10% power limit. Leaving it on stock defaults it is like 1.100V and rarely boosting to 3000. Definitely need to crack this thing open and see what I can do with the temps. Especially the memory. They've got the wrong pads or something. I haven't seen video memory temps this high since cryptomining with the 3090 KPE. 9070 XT handle BF2042 at 4K with maxed out settings without issue. FPS range from about 70 to 120 with an average of around 90 FPS.

Scalpers need to be hunted down until every last one has a lifeless skull filled with lead. They do not deserve the air they breathe. Dead scalpers don't scalp.

YUP!!! I’m gonna be more patient next gen. I was getting frustrated during this launch. But MSRP is the only way! I cannot afford AIB cards anymore 🤣 What an insane price!!! Wow. You’re very lucky to snag that beauty! Good find man!

Still no 5090's readily available at my MC, but the manager came and found me in line and said I have a MSI Liquid Suprim 4090 if you want it for now. So I grabbed that for now.

Hmmm. I got a big box stamped with several Asus stickers. Could that be..... One of the very rare and overpriced 5000 series Nvidia graphics cards?😀

Thanks 🙂 Hmmm. From what I have seen... +95% of all 5090's sold here home have been Asus. The shop offer 31 different SKUs and probably divided into 12-15 different brands of 5090's. I would never ever buy a SKU or brand I don't like. And every single custom 5090 is heavly overpriced so it really doesn't matter if I pay slight more for what I want. If I can't find what I want then I wait. And you can't buy the FE or MSRP cards at MSRP. Then you have the used market here home. The Asus cards (Strix or flagship) offer good used value and the loss will be less when you sell it later. Fun facts.... A flood of 5070's is listed for sale and almost empty for any AMD 9700(XT) cards. Nvidia need to rebate the xx70 cards or they will lose the mid end market to AMD. Or maybe they hope the xx60(Ti) will save the day? Cheaper to produce (defective silicon) so Nvidia can recup some of the loss in mid end. And whats weird... I mean there is minimale differences between 5070Ti and the 5080's components. And Nvidia should have made more 5080's from the silicon (Both use GB203). But thats not what I see here. Maybe because of AMD put all the money on mid tier cards?

Yes. Pretty respectable at 4K and with RT on as well. Something AMD has always struggled with. This GPU was less than half the price of my "inexpensive" Gigabyte 4090. Although 4090 is clearly better, it is not scaling with price and is not giving double the performance. It's roughly one-third the price of what I paid for the 4090 Suprim. It's nice you can finally run ray tracing on a red card without it collapsing into a nasty-looking slide show.

Here you go. Nothing optimized, just running with other programs and things active during work. For some reason I could not get the upload to associate with my UL account. It appears to be associated with no one. I tried to upload it again and it got rejected as a duplicate. https://www.3dmark.com/compare/spy/36499097/spy/54229331/spy/40812238#

https://www.3dmark.com/compare/sn/971066/sn/4521744/sn/60378#

I had an Astral in my basket ready to checkout on Newegg.... Did I mention it was the $5971 bundle? 🤣 I did not purchase it. 🙂

Hmm. Not many newer cards is priced around $600 or below. And it has been like this a long time. Retailers selling base model RX 9070 GPUs at 22% markup compared to MSRP — 9070 XT now typically starts at $799

So I think being an enthusiast increases your chances. Many of the people selected owned a RTX 4090, 4090 laptop, previously owned a 3090, 2080, 1080. Nvidia can see all of our hardware history and gaming activity. So, I truly believe Nvidia is selecting real hardware enthusiast lol.

https://www.3dmark.com/sn/4335867 Best result so far.

I've seen peaks of about 486W but gaming loads about 380W on the new setup at the wall. So no stress for my 750W 🙂

aww why are u joking? DO IT 😄 when at first i got my TX1600 ATX2.4 version I was wondering to myself if i should later upgrade to the ATX3.1 version. i am sooo glad that i didnt. all 8pin goodness on the PSU side, enough wattage for two 12v2x6 connectors, super quiet and efficient and 12 years (or rather 10 left) of warranty. will not need another psu for a long time! i have a wattmeter permanently hooked up to my rig and the highest ive seen thus far was 1125W or 70% of stock psu capacity. i think ill be good even with a 5090 and a 9950X3D in there 🙂

I have torn down my entire test bench in a matter of minutes. I plan to hook the laptop up to the chiller now 😂 I’m joking. But I do have the pumpas ready to go in new rig. Going to tear them down for inspection. But chilled water doesn’t grow anything so it’s amazing how all of the parts are just pure spotless inside.

100% agreed. Therein lies the problem for myself. I won't pay much (if anything) over the $600 point as it quickly loses value for me. I sure as heck won't pay >=$700. The exception was going to be the Taichi.... Just about as disastrous of a launch as it can get..... This. $600 is a fantastic get. $625-700 I'm losing interest. >$700 I'm out. The writing was on the wall actually seeing as how the 5090 desktop requires so much more power while laptops are still capped. It is the 2080 Super -> 3080/ti laptop scenario all over again.

(8) fans and only 2 wires!!! I love these Lian Li P28 fans! They will match the case perfectly. Once the dual D5 distro plate arrives I can get to building.

This is a stock time spy run as a baseline for comparison. I really do not know how bad this may be. NVIDIA RTX 4090 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i9 processor 14900HX,RPL IONIQ_RTX Even though it's a locked down BGA book like many call them these days. I still really like it. It absolutely folds my living room PC which is a LTT Golden sample 10900K/Intel ARC B580. I really need to add more storage to this thing though. The base 1TB is meh. Gaming is ultra smooth. Even if the CPU is throttling at times. I honestly really like having a laptop again. I can work in my kitchen, office, living room, wherever I want!

Feels like the old days!! Packed in a bunch of thermal putty, added some fresh Noctua NH2 on the GPU core, and redid the Liquid Metal on the 14900HX, polished with Flitz, re-applied on heatsink and die.. MUCH BETTER! I had re-assembled everything and these little tape flaps had covered the heatsink so essentially no air could Pass through the heatsink fins at all. The fans were going full blast and barely any air came out of the back or sides of the laptop. I learned my mistake after taking it apart again. My RTX 4090 mobile was throttling like crazy before even with Turbo fans on hitting 86c SUB 2,000Mhz. Now it runs 69-71c 2,400Mhz!!! 😄 The CPU dropped a good bit as well. So this is really good. It seems to be averaging 71-85c in games on all CPU cores. CPU Package before was 107c, now it’s down to 98c package max. But it’s sending way more BOOST. So it has just taken the new temp head room, and filled it with higher average CPU clocks and higher average CPU voltage, and higher CPU wattage 🥴. But it’s okay. It is running so much better. The CPU and GPU temp reduction is very substantial.

Hmm I do not see artifacting on the MSI 5090 Gaming Trio in WoW with afterburner running, but maybe I am missing something. Granite Rapids has a new 16 P-core LCC variant which is Redwood Cove cores complete with hyperthreading on a monolithic die. I guess it still uses a tiled die for I/O stuff but the MCH and hopefully PCIe should be on the CPU tile from what I understand. If only Intel management would get their head out of the groud and port this chip in some form to client lineup. Its also Intel 3, produced domestically in Intels own fab, just like the Sapphire Rapids chips.

Unfortunately 600w just is not enough. I need to mess around with undervolting or get my hands on a higher than 600w power limit vBIOS. During the Steel Nomad run it was pegged at or above 600w the entire run. Will tinker with voltage and curve when I get more time. But it's clear to me from the outset this card is insanely power hungry/starved. This is an Asus TUF OC RTX 5090 btw. I also have an Asus TUF OC RTX 5080 I'll be looking to get rid of soon. Actually a banger card, more than enough IMO but not an upgrade or even a sidegrade from a 4090 unless you want to use multi frame gen which for single player games is pretty incredible stuff. But pure power and vram, it's just too gimped beyond the $999 price tag for the FE.