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Got a text to get to MC. I grabbed the very last one.

Decided to change out my case, also got a new card after a bearing issue with the fans. This one seems much happier.

Package on the way @1610ftw I may include the cat as an extra. 😂

I am using the same driver as you, too. Maybe it is something with the 9800X3D that doesn't like that game? The B850 AORUS Elite got a 9600X CPU and the Srix 1080 installed with a DDR5-6000 kit that I tightened up the timings enough that it is almost as swift as my DDR5-8000 tuned in both 9950X systems. (90GB/s read and 56.0ns latency.) My grand daughters are elated and binging on Fortnite at 1440p. (I also gave them one of my Predator 1440p 165Hz IPS monitors.) Anyhoo... I still have a few things to find a place for in my tiny little hot office. But, it is tidied up enough for me to function when I return to work tomorrow. (Today was a day of PTO.) While I don't consider myself "old" yet, I can tell that I am not young anymore. I basically spent three days redoing things. Got rid of one of my sit/stand desks and one of the storage cabinets to make it not feel so cramped. I could have done this in one day 5 or 10 years ago without feeling tired or sore from moving furniture around and lifting heavy objects. I moved the ASUS 4K 144Hz display to the wall mount and have the two Predator 4K 160Hz screens on the desk. So, eliminating one desk, one desktop computer and two monitors in this 12x12 space makes me feel a lot less claustrophobic. 🤣 Next project is to build the internal loop inside of the O11D XL EVO with valves to switch between internal loop and chiller. I have sold the XT45 1080 Nova radiator setup pending my finishing that project. This camera phone isn't great. I think the glass cover over the lens is getting dirty or fogged up on the inside. Lights off... Lights on...

function over form! 😄 first and foremost, i got the Suprim because of its superior cooling, the sleek non-gamery looks only came in second 😛 but yeah, as i said before: when spending this ridonkulous amount of money, i make sure i get what i actually want, and not just "anything that is currently available".

No worries, I called him out for you. Than Nguyen has done some shady stuff in the past man with the items he sells.

VULC will probably still want it. GPU’s are like 3-5K there. For a 4090 or 5090. So I’m sure even if shipping is $200 it’s probably still a bargain lol. Than Nguyen already has a 5080, he wants to sell it and go back to a 4090. He says “5080 sucks 4090 is far superior” 😂

Daddy is happy 😁 Likely will not get to install it for a few days, want to finish up some benches with the 4090 first before flashing it back to stock and taking it out. Will be sure to post size comparisons between these two bricks 😄

damn thats rough! here i thought esp. the 5080 situation wouldve been cleared up by now. plus 5090s come into stock way more often and definitely way longer, at least in online shops here in europe. distributors holding back stock to figure out new tariff prices? edit: OUT FOR DELIVERY! aight, time to pack up here at work and rush home 😄

helloooooooooooooooooooo 😎 card is at the shop, package prepared 😁 edit: aaaaaaaaand shipped! 🙂 5090 trainwreck, here i come 😄 @Papusan any specific drivers ud recommend to minimize the damage? 😛

Transformation complete. All self-contained. Gene seems happy with the new work environment.

Yup, 5090 is a fast card. Global 1th place GPUPI v3.3 1B Hall Of Fame Beating the XOC 😁https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/rankings?cores=1&hardwareType=gpu Me right now @Prema 🤩 +3.5GHz https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/submissions/5818263

Looks like I am the lone ranger on 9070 XT 3DMark 11 benching at the moment. The fact that the 9070 XT can handle these ray traced benchmarks without it turning into a slide show is a huge step forward for AMD. These scores are beating 3090 and 6900 XT scores soundly, and those were on chilled water. This is just maxed out fans and with the low-budget B850 mobo. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/5813158 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_sky_diver/submissions/5813198 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike/submissions/5813197 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/5813195 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5813193 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay/submissions/5813191 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5813190 Hmm. I am going to have to re-run some of these on Winduhz 11 because some of the guys beating me are using that crappy OS. @Papusan are you ready to embrace Winduhz OS X for higher benchmark scores now? (I didn't think so. Me neither. Probably some deception and manipulation going on with that as the dangling carrot for the gamer children of the world.)

So I scored a Gigabyte 9070xt from BB that was delivered today. With discounts and rewards = $739 after tax. Not doing back flips over this one, but could be much worse. Can't wait to dig in on this one next week and run some tests with WoW in my known testing spots to see how it fairs against the 5080 and 4090 data. ---- I also snagged an Astral 5090 on BB Total price after rewards and discounts = 3403.46. Seriously on the fence about this one, lol. If the 10850k is your best CPU, that has to be the benching rig CPU with hopefully decent (>=3600) DDR4 sticks. I can't see regressing to a 9700F for a benching rig but that's just me. And it starts..... The march to an EK block..... 🤣

I played a bit of BF 2042 last night and the 9070 XT is boosting to like 3375, most of the time running 3100-3200 MHz. This is with a -0.060 undervolt and +10% power limit. Leaving it on stock defaults it is like 1.100V and rarely boosting to 3000. Definitely need to crack this thing open and see what I can do with the temps. Especially the memory. They've got the wrong pads or something. I haven't seen video memory temps this high since cryptomining with the 3090 KPE. 9070 XT handle BF2042 at 4K with maxed out settings without issue. FPS range from about 70 to 120 with an average of around 90 FPS.

Without the slider, its 1.085V and with slider, it's 1.110V And my PCIE slot voltage and 16-Pin voltage go no lower than 12.1. While my other card dipped in the 11.8 to 11.9 range. Please be a good card.😂

Thank you @Mr. Fox ! Package arrived safe and sound and it up and running like a champ! Okay, so i ended up selling my Gaming Trio 5090 to one of my customers and grabbed this PNY Epic from Microcenter a little while ago. And I must say i was quite surprised at it's stock bios settings.

I honestly did not think a 5090 could NOT do +3000 hmmmm.... I haven't really collected a lot of data yet, but I also assumed everybody could do at least +300 (I assumed every 5090 out of the box could at least do +3000/+300 as a starting point) and most could do +350. I can do +3000 / +350 with zero PL/V adjustments and that is just how I've been running it the last few days rock solid with PX1. I was going to start testing for max PL sliders / voltage next week to find the "hard stuff" That was my bad for not collecting results like I normally do with CPUs......

welcome to the 5090 club bro, its about time 🙂 heard good things about the trio thus far, hope it treats you well! do tell us how its going with it. screaming for more powah 100%. what im seeing thus far is that im hitting the power limit WAY earlier than the voltage limit in most cases. one exception is Unity Enemies (UE5 tech demo), which lets the card ramp up to roughly 550W so its able to stretch its legs clockwise and holds steady around 3150 Mhz on the core at +370 (my confirmed D2D stable btw, +375 turned out to be unstable in Unity Enemies). thats why im absolutely HOPING for the XOC vbios to drop at some point. not planning to shunt mod this card. PX1 is standalone. everything i have is standalone. i dont even have a steam account 🤣 and yeah, for custom fan curves im using AB, PX1 unfortunately doesnt help there. havent tested max settings for short benches yet. gimme a list of benches ud want to see and ill check it out for you 🙂 VRAM is easy, cant go further than +3000 and its stable haha 😄 so only core left to finetune in this regard. my 4090 D2D was at +190 / +1525 so basically the same as yours. u know, funny that u mention that with the astral vbios. ive seen reports that although the astral vbios sports the same 600W limit, it somehow allows for a bit higher peak voltage and also has higher / more frequent 600+ W peaks. might be worth a try 🙂 havent checked for transients yet, those 610W peaks i mentioned before was just manual eyeballing via the Nvidia overlay during stress testing. so will need to do some more detailed monitoring with HWInfo. thats to be expected that your FE stays overall lower in voltage, with on average higher temps at load it would downclock a tad more and thus use a lower point on the V/F curve. bouncing off the 600W limit is basically all i see on my end....i guess our game library is a bit different 😄 not planning to do any undervolting, rather interested in the max stable clocks at max voltage 😛 however i WOULD be interested in a vbios with a much lower minimum power limit i could clamp down. the Suprim performance vbios only lets me go down to 67%, equivalent to 400W peak wattage. i would prefer 25-33% or equivalent to 150-200W for regular desktop use / light loads / transcoding workloads. how are those 576 drivers treating ya? havent updated yet, wanted to finish all my testing first with the same driver base. edit: good news on the ebay front, i just sold my 5x Samsung 860 Evo 4TB disks all at once to a buyer in France. total fees at 5% 🙂 pricing was also very good, managed to sell them at 90% of the price i paid for them about 5-6 years ago (new) 😄

yep saw that drop during benching yesterday, changelog included a frigging TON of bugfixes specifically for 50 series. will update asap 🙂 some more 5090 Suprim insights: - highest core temp ive seen thus far was 68C in Alan Wake 2 pathtracing maxed out in 4K without DLSS/FG. card still super quite, insane - vRAM OC at +3000 for 34Gbps confirmed stable via GPU Memtest for 1hour. max VRam temp. 64C during stress test. - currently checking for core OC, happy to report that EVGA PX1 does not have any troubles applying +100 on the voltage slider. with AB lots of reports that the card would drop to base clocks and show funky behaviour. havent seen this with PX1, so all good. - +300 core oc looks stable thus far, but not quite done with stability testing yet, about halfway through. initial quick n dirty core oc only locked up the card once i reached +500 😄 should be interesting haha - need to do some more extensive voltage monitoring to determine typical range for my particular sample. initial impressions in alan wake 2 yesterday showed anywhere between 1.00 and 1.25V (voltage slide maxed, power pegged at 600W+). but ofc that depends on the application tested. will keep u guys posted 🙂

I do not like some of these games (noted with *) and either do not own them because they have a standalone benchmark or I bought them only for their built-in benchmark. Some of these are old, but are good for testing raster performance. In no particular order, and by no means is it an all-inclusive list... just what popped into my head. EZ Bench GameTechBench Crysis/Crysis Remastered Wolfenstein Youngblood Gears of War (all of them) Far Cry New Dawn Horizon Zero Dawn Bright Memory Infinite Resident Evil 5/6 Shadow of the Tomb Raider Rise of the Tomb Raider Monster Hunter Wilds* Black Myth Wukong* Final Fantasy (all)* Cyberpunk 2077 Metro (all of them) Sniper Elite (all of them) Hitman Absolution Just Cause (all of them) Dune Awakening Alien: Isolation Borderlands 2/3 Call of Juarez Deus Ex: Mankind Divided Sleeping Dogs*

Speaking of ridiculous GPU prices.. I found my first GPU in Tarkov PC game! And yeah even in this game they sell for ₽124,000 Rubles which is equivalent to $919 USD, and it’s like an old Asus GTX 1070 😂. They are quite a valuable item though! I’m selling mine 100% lol. Gonna spend the money on ammunition and guns etc lol. Escape from Tarkov is amazing though. You can buy guns in pieces for less money, and put it back together and use it. Very cool. I went in to a raid once with no barrel. Oops. I was completely useless.

first impressions on running benches with the 5090 Suprim: - my system is SO insanely quiet now with the 9950X3D + 5090, both are much quieter than my previous 7950X + 4090 Suprim combo. crazy, wouldve never thought that! - absolutely zero coil whine, not even at 500+ FPS. my 4090 would have a slight coil whine during very high FPS runs (were talking 300+), but otherwise basically nothing. - EVGA PrecisionX1 still works and allows me to push the vRAM to 34 GBps (+3000 on the slider or rather +6 Gbps). i love this tool so its great to see its still functional 🙂 still have AB installed as a backup tho and for future custom fan curves. havent checked temps yet under high continuous load, the benches im currently running are too short to properly determine cooling capabilities. but judging from the noise (or lack thereof), im not really worried in that dept. 😄 so far so good!

Damn @jaybee83 got a 5090. Anyone else get one yet? Here I am playing with my peasanty GPU setup 😂

Congrats brother! I thought the same thing. 🤣

Coincidentally just enough for a 5090! LOL 🤩

So, the Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC is on its way to the new owner and the Apex and 14900KS was delivered to its new owner today. Net on the sale of those parts was $2500. Not too shabby. I sold the GPU for what I paid for it new, not counting the waterblock.

This CPU was already delidded and was running bare die. I will do a comparison with stock vs TG IHS after I delid the second one. Here are the SP ratings: Yup, the SP118 CPU runs 2200 FCLK no problem in the Gene, same as it did in the B850 AORUS. So, a point lower SP rating and better FCLK.

So, the CPU that was in the Gene has a higher SP rating but can't boot 2200 FCLK. I moved the delidded 9950X from the Gene to the AORUS B850 and it runs like a top, but won't boot 2200 FCLK in that motherboard either. What is weird, I can run the lower SP-rated 9950X at 2200 and CO 30 on CCX0 and 25 on CCX1, but I couldn't do more that 20/10 on the higher SP-rated CPU. So, I am thinking the SP-rating is a worthless joke on AMD and means nothing whatsoever. Seems like it. Now I will see how well the not-delidded CPU that can run 2200 FCLK tunes up in the Gene. I'll probably decapitate it this weekend. Anyhoow... this is the delidded CPU using a Thermal Grizzly performance IHS and the EK Nucleus CR360 Dark AIO in the B850 board. About 1,000 points higher on Cinebench and a whole lot cooler because of the delid (as expected).

Found some now ancient but still NIB arctic accelero extreme 9800 coolers on performance pc's so naturally since they were 15 USD each I bought 2. Any of you whose been around the block for some time, any recommendation for which GTX 9800 to seek out for benchmarking?

Bringing the pain @Papusan! Nice! Agreed, the power resides in the lows. That is where the 5090 is shining in WoW. So you're down to two main rigs now? I always liked the whole black/wite/bluish look. Very industrial. --- Delidding the 9950x really drops the temps and power draw, damn....

I picked up an X580 for testing as I was curious about the improvements they have made on the X370. Specs: Performance - 150W PL2 / 135W PL1 / 250W combined (observed as 70W CPU + 170W GPU in OCCT combined load test) Entertainment - 130W PL2 / 46W PL1 / 195W combined (observed as 46W CPU + 150W GPU) 18 inch QHD+ 240hz, panel is BOE NE180QDM-NZ2 Memory needs four sticks to run in dual channel and by default boots at 4400 MT/s per Intel specs. Memory must be run in slot 2 and 3 for dual channel operation. The best performance is to use single rank memory with tight timings but likely no XMP support. So kits like Kingston Fury 2x16GB 5600 CL40. There is a bios option to select a higher memory speed. Much better cooling, as the system can sustain these loads without thermal throttling. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/130420192?

My end game has always been ~144fps locked everywhere, but playing at 4k Ultra 10 RT max, that is always a pipe dream. With the new engine enhancements (again) and The War Within Xpac, Blizzard has again pushed the performance bar up for max settings. The lows are what I focus on since 144fps is fairly modest for the highs. WoW is pretty reliable until you get bombarded with player data and the CPU starts to have to focus elsewhere. 5090 is pretty near end game for 4k Ultra 10 RT max and unlike the 4090 which could hit 99% util and almost hit 144fps in pure render spots (IE, no player data) at 135fps, the 5090 now surpasses that pretty handily with room to spare and leaving the 9800X3D gasping for breath even with no player data, so focusing on the lows now becomes the next holy grail. Honestly, 100fps lows everywhere is good enough for smooth gameplay. My initial goal is 100fps+ for 1% lows, 144fps for highs. But like I said before, the jump from the 5080 -> 5090 immediately cleared up that stutter/chunk from hitting close to 60fps in some scenarios and those are the avg so you know the 1% is dipping below that. As I was flying over to test my go to spot, seeing 300fps+ in some spots in Hallowfall (newest Xpac zone) at 4k Ultra 10 RT max was pretty awesome.... 5090's are pricey AF, but there is no doubt they are monsters. Crazy part? I didn't hear any coil whine while I was basking in those 300fps with my speakers at low (wifey is watching "The Equalizer" in the other room)...

3+ hrs of WoW on the Astral 5090 pure stock: That power draw had to be transient spikes of some sort as during actual gameplay, it was usually sub 400w or lower with fps locked to 140fps. Same problems with the 5080/4090 exist with the 5090 but more severe. In raids, you get more fps than the 5080/4090 but the CPU is taking a pounding with all that player data and GPU utilization can sink lower than 50% in some areas because the 5090 is just a beast but when it really counts it is being under utilized with the 5090 same as with the 4090 and 5080. Still seeing fps drop below 100fps into the high 80s and 90s but that's better than the low to low 60s with the 5080 in some moments. I cap my fps in WoW and FO76 to 140fps because it's all about the lows (plus the engines can have problems with too high of frame rates especially FO76 which goes bonkers past ~175fps). So has performance been better? Absolutely, but the CPU being the bottleneck during raids and outdoor bosses in TWW is still a problem. Everywhere else, 144fps locked but I was getting that (or close to it) with the 5080 and 4090 anyhow. The lows have definitely improved and for me they mean much more than the highs and former areas that could get a little rough are now buttery smooth but $2516.35 worth of differences (difference between 5080 FE and Astral 5090)? Hmmmm..... Onward to FO76.....

Astral installed.... This card is a CHONKER. Easily the largest GPU I've ever owned and it is HEAVY. I had to fish around for a sag device as I don't want to open up the other if I'm going to end up returning it. I just took out the card and the tentacle. Everything else is sealed and intact. Absolutely beautiful card. I like the look of it just as much as the FE. Initial WoW tests has it pulling ~537w and hitting 2857-2865 out of the box. Timespy has this thing pulling ~610w but temps are good. During the first test it was hitting 2900+ GPU out of the box and never went below 2857mhz on this dirty run after GPU install. As expected, the fans are a big 'ole nothing burger. Either that or Asus has corrected them in the interim. I left it running playing wow with audio muted (while testing for coil whine) and I sat there listening to them and just, "that's it?" Like I said, I've heard much louder and worse on many other cards. Is it there? Yes, but common..... Coil whine is on the same level as my MSI 4090 Liquid which is super quiet. You need a silent room to hear it at all. With any level of audio it is non-existent. Not as quiet as my 5080 FE which is basically silent but as close as you can get. Score another win for the EVGA 1600 P2..... Preliminary quick tests in my "cap out" spot in WoW (gonna have to find a new spot now...boooo!): 5080 = 125fps GPU bound (99%) stock 2718mhz 4090 = 135fps GPU bound (99%) at OC 3135mhz 5090 = 184fps NOT GPU bound (92-95%) at stock 2857-2865mhz Looks like the 9800X3D even at 4k Ultra RT at max has met its match. Question now over the next week is.....is it worth it?

Must MUST protect precious cargo on the way home!!!!! 🤣 In case anyone else wanted a GPU from my BB, here is there massive selection: **SCORE**

The Astral price is really steep! But these cards have a really good cooler which provides great temps and also really good clocks. I think the bios is pretty good on these Astral cards. Seems like Asus tried to release a solid product this go around that actually matched the extravagant price tag. I remember everyone including @Mr. Fox was complaining how terrible the 4090 Strix OC was and how it was overpriced gamer boy junk.. So at least the 5090 Astral gives you something, good cooling, looks cool, injured wallet, and high core overclocks. But it’s essentially still a 5090 at the end of the day. So I think you gotta determine if it’s worth the price. If I bought a 5090 Astral I’d probably keep it knowing me lol. It’s a very nice GPU. Then again, I really appreciate my 5090FE for $2,100 all in. I think with the VRAM size, and performance uptick in 4K heavy RT, it can straight whoop my 4090 by 50%. And if we use heavy up scaling with 4K, the gap REALLY grows. The 5090 memory bandwidth is strong. It’s nice we have so many options. Truth is, 4090 is so fast already it is more than enough juice. Heck, even my laptop 4090 is fast enough for majority of gamers. This 10900K can do low power 5.3Ghz, it was like 170-180 watts running R15. I want to say it could run 5.0Ghz with like 1.075v. I did very very minimal testing on it. I wish I could have ran it properly with a Z490 Apex on the test bench and chiller. My motherboard was a Z490 Aorus piece of crap to the max (I hated this board, I hate its bios and it was so horribly unstable) I had a 10850K SP84 that was direct die cooling, and on a massive multi-pump custom loop with external rad cooling which used 298 watts at 5.3Ghz, and this 10900K on a 360mm AIO “Not even delidded” would absolutely smash that thing! It was pure impressive how much better this 10900K was. Since I bought a 14900HX/4090 laptop, I didn’t need this 10900K system really. And it was just sitting in my living room. @electrosoft When I first saw the prices on 5090 MSI Laptops, I thought they have gotten super greedy man. And this is pure hilarious to see them now. 😂 I mean, what was MSI even smoking to begin with..Not sure who is paying 5K+ for a MSI Raider. It’s a really great machine. But buying a barely faster than a 4090 laptop rig. For thousands more is nuts.. Also, have you overclocked your 4090 machine yet? I seem to get about +1,000 on memory with mine, but I think that’s it. Also, I noticed if I hold my laptop off the table it drops 9C on GPU temp! No cooling pad or anything fancy. Just sitting my laptop on a cup in the table lifted about 5 inches off the table it drops a straight up 9C in game. 🤯

I'm looking forward to your results! I always follow the X170 threads (along with NH55 of course) to see what new results pop up. I just know when all was said and done, I tested that 10900k against many off the shelf variants and 4 specifically targeted binned chips including an SP113 I borrowed for a few days and it was still better for laptop use. It was better stock IHS than all the others including the delidded ones. It was just a great chip in the X170SM-G. Last cash grab as the market normalizes to a degree and all the heavy hitters move out. Hmmm, who was it that said everything would settle down a bit by the end of April? 🤣 FOMO makes people do crazy things. Finally the Apex is arriving. I think what we've seen is latching onto a very valid reason (tariffs) and using that as a means to increase prices as much as possible even beyond and trying to at least touch off of scalper prices to maximize profits with the ability to lower costs when needed. I will be curious to see when sales drastically slow and prices have to come back down, how that suddenly "works" with tariffs still in play. I have no problems with AIBs charging as much as they want. It is up to the consumers to say no. I know for many, even $3k-$4k still isn't much to them as they spend much MUCH more elsewhere on their hobbies and leisurely pursuits but still.... As for the FE, it is compact and elegant. The fact you can slap a full tilt 5090 in a SFF 2 slot design is pretty awesome. It is not for those who want to overclock but want full 5090 power out of the box that isn't ginormous. It does run warm but well within spec and doesn't throttle. It is also priced the best easily at $1999.99. I fully get why it exists but also why certain segments have no desire for it. Yup, the early adopters with better spending/worse common sense are drying up along with a steady trickle of inventory coming in. You also have scalpers slowing down as it is past the "easy money" stage of the program. Monitoring a few stock bots, other brands are bringing cards to the market somewhat regularly too but they are usually snapped up pretty fast (or were). The real question will be how the market and companies respond going forward. -------------- Remember the outlandish prices for 5090 laptops announced? Discounts already on MSI and Asus models. Nobody in their right mind is going to pay those prices. On another note, I didn't realize MSI went with the 285HX in their Raider. I thought only the Titan was getting it so that's nice to see. Basically no real difference real world but still.... Unfortunately the 9950X3D variant for MSI is still sitting at $5099.99 atm, but we will see....

So, I think my next project will be to sell the Z790 Apex build before I change my mind and decide against it. I wish I could just sell the entire package preassembled with the MO-RA 360 and chiller. I'd probably keep the 4090 though. I'll probably end up having to sell it in pieces though, because there are no people that I know of locally that can appreciate the sheer wickedness such an insane beast can offer. I wish Brother @Rage Set did not live so far away. This morning I fired it up for the first time in a long time. I think 60 days or so since I turned on the three electrical outlets that power all of it. I ran an AIDA64 memory benchmark and 8600 with tight timings this monster still stomps the life out of everything else I own. I am going to have to turn everything back off before I start questioning why I built two Ryzen machines and have been ignoring this one. If I start using this again I will like the AMD builds less. Just web browsing and launching applications, everything feels so much snappier and lively than I remembered. It makes the Ryzen builds seem laggy and sluggish in comparison. The CPU is running crazy hot, so I am guessing the liquid metal has dried up or run off the die from it sitting idle and turned off for such a long time. (One of the unfortunate down-sides of having the motherboard vertical rather than horizontal is that gravity eventually wins. Horizontal orientation allows the die to perpetually bathe itself in a puddle of liquid metal.) What's funny is it never seemed loud when it was my main rig. Now having 27 fans and 5 D5 pumps purring away seems noisy even though it's not obnoxious and it is running at a very low decibel level. It just seems loud compared to the other more pedestrian Ryzen builds that have fewer moving parts. I also forgot how much cooler the 14900KS runs at an idle. Both of my 9950X CPUs idle about 12°C hotter and run hotter under load even though the 14900KS pulls a whole lot more watts than the 9950X CPUs do. Congrats to your mom on the new laptop. That's quite an upgrade for her. The leap in performance has to be nothing short of astronomical coming from such a tired and relatively slow 10-year old machine. I agree with you on OLED. I'm kind of a weirdo sometimes when it comes to paying high prices for things that don't make a computer run faster, but OLED just doesn't impress me. Too expensive with too little to offer in return, and I'm not into having to pamper a monitor to keep it from getting screen burn. Utter nonsense IMHO. Paying a lot of money for something comparatively fragile and destined to destroy itself is illogical to me. Even if that wasn't an issue, it's not worth the extra cost. Big bucks with little bang seems to be the new world we live in now. Brother @jaybee83 - this one is the one I would recommend. Both of mine are solid AMD kits. https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-ddr5-8000/p/N82E16820374624?Item=N82E16820374624

my 4090 feels offended by this....but is also quite impressed 😛 dude, i JUST finished my breakfast here! was planning to keep it down, mkay? 😄 oh cmoooon..... cant we just get ONE part theese days without the risk of it crapping out on us inside the first week/month/year? seriously...

Well, that is the driver I have installed already. But, your point is no less valid regardless. I seldom ever use current drivers because most of the time there is an older one that is better. This is how the PC tech landscape looks now. And, we're supposed to somehow be happy about it. They're full of what you see in this photo. It's what they sell and it's what they're doing to us all.

The 9070 XT beat the 4090 in this benchmark.

RTX5090 - Superposition 1080P - Global 5th🙂 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_1080p_xtreme/submissions/5812706 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_8k_optimized/submissions/5812711 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/5812723?recalculate=true

ASUS COULDN'T AFFORD SEND WITH A FEW SCREWS FOR THEIR $3000 FLAGSHIP GRAPHICS CARD. But I got a useless badge/button intended for gamer kids with ROG stamped in gold on. Stupids. Yup, I had to use tape. So this won't look pretty. And the 55cm tubes is barely long enough to put the radiator on top of the big black box😎 Barely time for testing. Right now I haven't much time for this. The card have been in the box since I bought it. The tests is done with stock voltage. Not so sure putting the voltage slider to 100% or 1.100V will help much with the power cap from Nvidia. All above me have the XOC vbios and only for the chosen ones. And the worst part... Friends of the fab clockers get their XOC firmware. Yup, only for the chosen ones. Oh'well, the results is still ok with vanilla firmware and tape😎 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/submissions/5812214?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_32b/submissions/5812213?recalculate=true

on a tangentially related note: i looooooooooooooooove Kirsten Dunst 😍 (and yes my wife knows 😛 😄) edit: back on topic, payment went through and received order confirmation from the french shop for the 5090 suprim 🙂 now to wait until the next batch of cards comes in, should be end of this / beginning of next week.

Its unfortunate that now the king of the hill sets the prices for the entire product stack. Since both are publicly traded, they are legally obligated to seek profits for their respective organizations so even if AMD were to somehow produce 80-90% of the performance for 50% (or less) of the cost they would be obligated to price it accordingly or open themselves to lawsuits from their own investors. The only counter argument they could make is a desperate need to gain market share, but they could likely only make that argument for 1 release before investors get itchy for the next fiscal quarter I buy both vendors to suit the needs or desires I have at the time, but I still have my leanings. That being said I remembered this 10-20 second portion of a farewell video which leads to the real problem. Gamers buy nvidia regardless and AMD cant seem to market their products appropriately.

5090 installed and purring smooooooooooothly 🙂 first up: all ROPs present and PCIe 5.0 x16 working as intended, PHEW! dont worry about the clocks, fiddling around with powersaving profile for simple desktop usage. next up: Id never thought Id see the day where my Suprim 4090 seems SMALL, THIN AND LIGHT 😄 check out these CHONKERS! 5090 always on top I really wish they wouldve sticked with the three slot backplate... why would anyone do a dual backplate on a 4+ slot brock of a gpu?!?! 🥸 anyways, time for some stock benches to get a baseline vs. my oced 4090!

I don't think that's the win you think it is. 🤣 "Just grab a ~$575 after tax unicorn 5070FE and viola! Repairio Fixumdulus!!!" Kinda like Nvidia and the 5080 holding back so much clock and memory speed..... You can just SMELL that 5080 Super in 10 months! 🤣 Or Intel selling silicon with plenty in the tank for years just to bin it up in 6 months to offer a faster version for more money... Corporations just Corporating as expected.....

Ya I got a TUF OC around the first round of price increases. But looking back, I got a bargain LOL.