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Always measure results, not marketing information. I am interested if the consistency (viscosity) is better and anticipate the cooling will be what it always is for liquid metal. Darn it, you caught me. I need to update the logo.

I have not seen this liquid metal before. Looks very interesting--especially the higher viscosity part--so I ordered some to try the next time I need to take something apart. It seems like over the years that liquid metal formulas have changed and have a lower viscosity than they used to, and I think that makes it more likely to drip or run. (The original Liquid Ultra was much thicker than Conductonaut, then they changed it and made it extra watery.) It looks like they use more indium and silver in their formula. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CJ9QGDFV They have some other products on their web site.

Didn't come out as nice as I had envisioned (hard tubing was hard to bend LOL) but still was a fun build: Just a test at 4.6Ghz:

Is there an AI i can train that i can use to choke people through the internet? 🤔

I first tried this on an RTX 3080 board. Unfortunately, the reballing from the seller was faulty and several solder balls detached from the core when soldering to the card, which was visible after removing the core from the card. The core required a reball, but the 3080 pcb died after 2nd core solder cleaning. You can see the power/ground routing got very exposed in the middle. I tried resoldering the core on anyway but it shorted. This is the 3060 in-progress next to the 3080 prior to removing the 3080Ti core: As for future mods I do hope to fix the vRAM clocking and finish upgrading the chips for 16GB. Currently only 3/8 chips are 2GB. In theory a 30 series pcb can take a 40 series core. They are electrically compatible, but my viewpoint is finding a vBIOS that would take that mod is almost certainly impossible. The 3080Ti mod only works with an Eluktronics vBIOS. All other vBIOS fail, including Clevo. Someone briefly listed an MXM clevo 3080Ti for sale on Ebay and Prema somehow identified it as having an Eluktronics vBIOS from the GPU-Z screenshot, which was extremely helpful.

Got everything transfered into the Fractal Define 7 XL tonight. Much more breathing room now! It is definitely one of the most versatile cases I have used. I need to work on cable management but it should be better for now to do more testing. System is still stable with XMP activated. I think it may have been a bad interaction with the "Performance Mode" option in the bios.

I have found a lot of the AMD and Intel guys are a bit heavy with their emotions and brand loyalty. I totally understand that AMD has grown in to a great performing CPU and it’s definitely not just the value chip anymore. But people completely throw rationality out the window sometimes. My brother is a huge AMD fanboy. I get in to debates with him via text/call like all the time 🤣 Sometimes it really feels like he’s gonna get AMD tattooed on his cheeks man.

Yup. Thermal Conductivity numbers at 130 W/m-K is more as a scam fake number. More of the higher conductive matrial Indium won't make magic if you know that Indium can't reach above 86W/mK as standalone metal alloy. And Indium is what's make the high conductive numbers in any Liquid metal. See also... A lie or a gray area? How to construct high thermal conductivity. Anyway. Looking forwards to results 🙂 Dang. I know why you wanted these swabs😁

The Sapphire Rapids build lives! Getting almost 54k in CBR23 at 46x all core with the Noctua U14S and very poor airflow. The Antec Neo P7 barely fits everything and it does not have a good path to exhaust hot air for the Noctua in a horizontal orientation. I have a Fractal Define 7 XL on the way which should be a much better fit for everything and be easier to work on. Other specs: W7-2495X Asus W790E-SAGE SE 4x16GB Teamgroup XMP 6400 CL32 RDIMM MSI 4080 Super Ventus 3X OC Optane P5800X 800GB Corsair HX1500i MSI - MAG 274QRF QD E2 27" QHD 180Hz (testing this for its built in KVM functionality) Sadly the XMP 6400 profile was not stable when activated. It crashed with a MEMORY_MANAGEMENT BSOD.

So I've been using this x670e Hero to tune back in my 6000 on this 7600x. Set up some other profiles, and get it all ready for the hopefully replacement 9800X3D. I go to test out some fans on it and the bottom three fan headers are defective and keep shorting with fan(s) plugged in. Other fan headers work ok. So in summary, Amazon Resale x670e Hero: 1. Missing CPU heatsink brackets 2. Missing thermal pads 3. Previous owner used some type of thermal grease I can not get the stains off the heatsinks 4. Lower three chained 4 pin fan headers are defective Fun re-tuning the memory on it though. Back to Amazon Resale it goes.

Well, I didn't mean to create work for my friend @Mr. Fox. He just said he'd help me out, so I wanted to give him some online forum love! He knows what a mess my family and I are going through, and as a true friend, he said he could do it for me! Thank you my brother!

Nice! So @Mr. Fox you are our official AM5 delidding service now? 🙂

Wow, these Xeon's are big. Sadly I ended up not getting a CPU carrier from either the used boxed processor or the new motherboard so still waiting on that to arrive separately before the weekend hopefully!

Getting ready to test the new Xeon w3175X. This thing was brand new and sealed. Just opened it up. Shall the best Xeon win! This will be easy though, because I know my chip well by this point.

I think I'll pick one up for my nephew who is still rocking the original A380 I picked up on Intel's initial launch when I built him his first gaming PC. He's been rocking it for over a year now and loves it but said a few games run a little slow (It is an A380). A B580 would be a monster upgrade for him. I will of course have to, ummm, certify the card first with some testing and data gathering before passing it on to him. 🙂 Yeah, I went back and forth over selling it because it was a monster bin and gave me almost two years of rock solid service but with prices holding so nicely atm (late november / early december) and knowing myself that as soon as the 5090 dropped I wouldn't look at my 4090 the same I was left with no alternative. If I purposely go lower spec I'm always ok with that. I've done it before and I don't regret the cost savings. So if I pick up a 5070 or a 9070XT, I'll be ok because the cost savings cancels out the remorse. If I held onto the 4090 and the 5090 dropped knowing I could have sold it for what I bought it for and picked up a 5090 later? That would eat at me as I would still end up either selling the 4090 at a greater loss than if I had sold it a few months prior and then still either pick up a cost effective card or just empty the till and get a 5090. And you were right. The 4070 Super is an absolute banger at its price point. Obviously not a 4090, but less than a third of the cost and provides ~half the performance. 9070XT is launching by the end of January so reviews will be out right about then to get an idea. Hopefully newer rumors trump @Papusan's links but knowing AMD...... So sorry to read. I had a membership over there, but didn't frequent it as much as I should have. The costs aren't too high to take it over (~$235/mo), but I'm sure time invested in actually maintaining it can get high. Yet again, kudos to @Reciever for keeping the spirit of NBR alive here at NBT. 🧡

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Cooler is a CoolerMaster Cryo Subzero 360mm, this is the one that comes with the LTX Golden sample 10900. It can get the CPU down to like 0c idle if you enable “Unrestricted mode”. It’s very fun for benching the 10900K! I leave standard “Cryo Mode” enabled for daily and this automatically monitors ambient temps, and stays above dew point so condensation will not develop and make water. The B580 is really good! I’m seriously amazed by how fast it is. It absolutely mops the RTX 3060 Strix OC 12GB, and that 3060 has a really really heavy overclock on it, and it’s in a much faster system with a 12900KS+DDR5. I’ve been playing on this thing more than my 4090 rig. The 10900K does such a good job, and it’s not even overclocked, the ram isn’t even overclocked still running XMP DDR4 3200. Looking at Firestrike and Timespy graphics score performance, this stock B580 is on par or even faster than a RTX 4060Ti in some synthetic testing. I’m not really sure how this translates to actual gaming performance so far across all games and titles against a 4060Ti. I just know it’s WAY faster than this 3060 12GB Strix OC. I was expecting similar performance, and maybe slightly faster at times. I was not expecting it to be 50% faster than an overclocked 3060 Strix OC 12GB. We used the iGPU for about a week. And I had it overclocked. It was capable of 1280x720 or 1920x1080 with very low graphics settings in just about any game out. So that’s how we ran the Trash Dog, until plugging in the ARC B580 which really lit up the system! Im running games at 4K on my living room with more than fast enough performance to play. I’m ordering a new case for this system, I actually had a Corsair 3000D that I was going to build this in, but it wasn’t fitting well with the AIO and this separate AIO pump, to the point where I’d have to remove a bit of material on the case or the AIO, so I’m returning this Corsair 3000D to Amazon, and I’m going to get something else. If you look at the pictures, Trash Dog’s case is already been cut to fit a 360mm AIO, this is a trashy case already which I didn’t really mind doing. 😎

Here we go. Old is Gold @ryan @Mr. Fox @electrosoft @Talon +++ A whopping 37% of Steam users' playtime in 2024 was spent on titles released eight or more years ago When it comes to our cumulative gaming habits, it's clear that the old reliables reign supreme....

Determine DELL Pro Max 18 Plus， It is the successor to the DELL Precision 7780 released in 2023, and the screen size has been upgraded to an 18 inch 16:10 ratio; DELL Pro Max 16 Plus， It is a 16 inch flagship and the successor to the original DELL Precision 7680. Both will be unveiled at CES on January 7, 2025 and will be launched in mid-2025. DELL now uses a naming convention similar to that of Apple phones for all new generation laptops - using Pro, Plus, Max, and two digits representing screen size for product naming. Data Currently, on the official DMFT website（ https://www.dmtf.org/ ）Part of the product naming information for DELL's new generation laptops can now be found, including models that have been launched and those that have not yet been released, as shown in the following figure: As can be seen, the information of DELL's new generation laptop shown in the above figure is as follows: Dell Pro 16 Plus PB16250 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-12-05 Dell Pro 13 Plus PB13250 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-12-05 Dell Pro 14 Plus PB14250 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-12-03 Dell XPS 13 9350 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-12-03 Dell Pro 14 Premium PA14250 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-12-03 Dell Pro 13 Premium PA13250 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-12-03 Dell Pro Rugged 14 RB14250 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-08-23 Dell Pro Rugged 14 RB14250 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-08-23 Dell Pro Rugged 13 RA13250 Dell, Inc. DASH 1.3 2024-08-23 Among them, only the Dell XPS 13 9350 still uses its original naming convention, with a submission date of December 3, 2024; The last three Dell Pro Rugged models were submitted earlier, on August 23, 2024, but have already adopted a new naming convention. And these three Dell Pro Rugged models have already been launched. Guessing 1: Product Naming Based on the above information, the author believes that without considering the outdated naming convention of Dell XPS 13 9350, the product naming convention for Dell's new generation laptops should follow the following rules: Rule 1 Pro Max - Mobile Workstation; Pro Rugged - rugged laptop; Pro - Professional commercial laptop. There may be other vocabulary. Rule 2 13. 14, 16, 18-- represents screen size. Rule 3 Premium - High quality attributes, such as ultra-thin and higher premium; Plus - Performance enhancement attribute, such as flagship models; There may be other vocabulary. Guess 2: Product Code As can be seen above, behind the Dell Pro Rugged 13, there is a set of seven characters - RA13250, which should be the long-term product code - arranged similarly to Apple products. Based on the above information analysis, the author believes that the naming convention for DELL's new seven digit long-term product code with letters and numbers should follow the following rules: first place: M - Pro Max, M comes from Max and is also the first letter of mobile workstation in English. R----Pro Rugged； P----Pro； There may be other codes as well. Second place: A----Premium； B - Plus (except for Rugged models, probably due to the name being too long). There may be other codes as well. Third and fourth positions: 12. 13, 14, 16, 18-- Screen size. Fifth and sixth positions: 25- indicates the year 2025, followed by 2026 using "26", and so on. Seventh place: 0- Default to Intel platform model; 1- Special models; 5- AMD platform models. Summary So, the following corresponding relationship will be obtained: DELL Pro Max 18 Plus----MB18250； DELL Pro Max 16 Plus----MB16250； Dell Pro 16 Plus----PB16250； Dell Pro 14 Premium----PA14250； Dell Pro Rugged 14-RB14250 (its name does not include Plus); Dell Pro Rugged 13-RA13250 (it is not named Premium). Is that really the case? We'll wait and see.

Had Core Ultra included hyperthreading it is somewhat unlikely I would have purchased the 9950X. The lack of it was the nail in the coffin for 285K. It made the CPU a eunuch on face value. No testing necessary. Game over. It was as if Intel deliberately forfeited the match and simply handed AMD the win. Bastards. So, speaking of 9950X, @Raiderman CPU delid is done and it's ready to send it back home again. MSI released BIOS v1.A1G for the X870E Carbon. This platform was very sketchy using 24GB memory modules. I can now run my TeamGroup Xtreem 8200 48GB kit on it with the memory tuned at 8000 manually. It will boot 8400 and run 8200 with some minor errors that I could likely tune away if I wanted to waste an inordinate amount of time trying to. There is not a lot of difference between 8000 and 8200 or 8400 and 8600 on Intel. There is even less difference in those steps on AMD. It's kind of freaky how 8200 and 8000 are nearly identical on the 9950X. Read/write/copy and latency don't really change or improve with the higher clock, so I am probably not going to waste time trying to tune 8200.

I learned my lesson on tattoo's after I had 3DFX, and ATI inked on my biceps. 🤣

Just ordered an Intel Arc B580 Steel Legend. May be off loading the 4090 soon for a good price. What about 7980XE or 9980XE?

lol when I was asking about the only W790 at Central Computer's they didn't question me one bit. Not even when I asked for Xeon prices LOL Was kinda nice. I am happy I went with W790 over threadripper. Haven't had this much fun on a desktop platform in awhile. These large beasts are indeed easy to cool. Stock clocks the Noctua cools the cpu easily. This platform has been more reliable than my Z790 with both 12700K & 14900K (latter being the obvious why it's unstable lol). And both of those CPUs were brand new. My last stable platform was X299 so it's nice to see W790 has been ironed out because I saw lots of negative reviews regarding the platform.

I would get the SAGE especially since it's cheaper than it's original price right now. They're even still providing BIOS updates for it whereas the ASRock and ASUS W790 ACE haven't had one in awhile. There's a lot of options in BIOS for memory as well. And it gives you the option to get a 34/35xx CPU with octa-channel memory in the future. Okay nvm I see you went with the sage LOL Use a 120mm fan to blow air to the DIMMs Also you're gonna need liquid cooling probably. What are your CPU temps? I couldn't do better than 4.1Ghz all core with the U14S. Now with 2x480mm RADs I can hit 4.6Ghz quite easily. I guess the 24xx chips probably run cooler too than 34xx

I'm very interested in your end results! I just bought some Conductonaut extreme since I used the rest of my Conductonaut on the build I did for my buddy over the weekend. This liquid metal here looks like it has even better thermal conductivity.

Happy to do it, brother. So, here is an interesting story. The Z790 Edge system that I use for work has been randomly having an issue where it would hang during POST and just get stuck with the white LED on. After several attempts to boot it up it would always fail the same way, but then it would always suddenly decide to function normally right before I was about to give up. This has been going on randomly for like 90 days. Really has been annoying. So, Friday evening and multple times Saturday the Carbon starts doing the exact same thing. I'm like "what the heck is going on" and so I flipped the KVM over to the Edge and it's doing the same thing, at the same time. Turns out it was my Roccat Vulkan 120 keyboard. I use the same keyboard, mouse and monitors for those two systems and switch back and forth using the KVM. I tested with a cheap old keyboard I hang onto for stuff like this and it worked fine with both machines. Hooked up the Roccat again and instantly both machines start doing the same hanging during POST again. So, I grabbed a Corsair K70 Core at Walmart and I'm back in business. I got it because it was cheap ($65) and better than any of the off-brand Chinese trash on Amazon for the same price. Turns out the K70 Core is a really nice entry-level mechanical keyboard. And, one nice thing about it is once I program my bright white backlighting and save it directly to the keyboard I am done. No need for crappy software bloat to manage the rainbow puke. The keyboard has three onboard profiles and I made them all the same thing so that it doesn't matter what profile is loaded... the outcome will always be white LED at max brightness. I like it better than my older and more expensive Corsair keyboards that I used for years until they finally died. The old Corsair K's had a habit of forgetting my settings and reverting back to the spastic animated rainbow puke. The Core also has a nice tactile response without being overly clicky. In fact, it doesn't click at all. It mostly has a dull "thud" sound. I like it. (It has Corsair MLX Red linear switches.) I guess I'll throw the Roccat Vulkan in the trash. That's going to make some people happy that hated how clicky and loud it was. It was quite annoying to some folks during teleconferences.

Not too many people will probably need this, but if you all use OBS to record or stream things, when you update to version 31, you will need to go in settings and change your NVENC to the new one. The old one is deprecated as of this update, and new one has benefits like the encoding data doesn't touch RAM at all, and should just be less resource intensive. You can also add custom encoding options (which I'm gonna be learning some of soon to see if they're useful), and if you're on a 4070Ti/Super, 4080/Super or 4090 card you can also do split encoding using both of your NVENC encoding modules to essentially SLI-encode for less system demand, or the ability to encode more streams at once. You will need to re-set your settings after changing the encoder tho. Happy meowing!

It gave me ample time to wonder whether I was making a terrible mistake. I am glad it was not, LOL. 🤣

welp i can take care of the europe side of things, also got an AM5 delidder handy 😄 i feel ya, iirc it took me like 60-70 repetitions to get mine off. its a bit of a chore, but definitely straight forward process 🙂

delidding?

I took the 9950X out today and cleaned it all up, and is ready to ship to brother @Mr. Fox to do his magic. He's been having all the fun, and I wanted to get in on some of it.

I obviously cannot speak to the W790 platform based on actual experience, but I think the logic would remain constant, in that 1DPC will always be better than more per channel in terms of overclocking and latency simply because of the extra traces, longer traces and noise the extra channels add that impair overclocking and add latency. The higher the memory clock goes, the more harmful the added DIMMs per channel become. The mere existence of the extra slots is what is detrimental... moreso than whether or not the slots are populated with memory sticks.

I am not certain of it, but I believe it is a matter of changing hardware. What makes the Heatkiller my favorite is how well it is made. The shouldered screws that fit nicely into the thick metal brackets is just very satisfying on top of it working well. It's the kind of product I would make for myself if I had the milling and fabrication machinery. You could put it in a sock and wield it as a lethal weapon, LOL. No matter how you deal with it, switching between Intel and AMD blocks is going to be a pain in the butt. Better to just use QDC fittings on the water lines and swap out the entire assembly rather than farting around with swapping brackets. I'm not a big fan of universal fit components. Purpose fit is usually better. Alphacool Core 1 is a good option, but I haven't owned one. I almost purchased one for the X870E Carbon and went with the Heatkiller instead. When two products perform roughly the same then I choose based on what is more aesthetically pleasing to me and did that here. Plus I knew it was only going to be very, very temporary. I would either be returning the AMD CPU and motherboard because of dissatisfaction with the platform or I would be delidding and going to bare die. Both of my Thermal Grizzly Mycro Pro direct die blocks are awesome. They perform as well as the IceMan blocks (which are utterly amazing) but have the der8auer edge on engineering and aesthetics. That elitist German focus on over-engineering is hard not to love. I find it very hard to enjoy owning CPUs that haven't been decapitated. I'm spoiled forever on bare die temperature reductions.

"I want to acknowledge that we got caught participating willingly and gleefully in predatory lending practices to pump up our valuation, dump old stock and please our new investors." - A more fitting statement....

On your recommendation, I went ahead and picked up the XSPC Photon D5 aRGB model since it was on clearance and had an additional 20% off making it a total of $137.69 after discounts and cashback. I think it is a mix of both. My son in law (bless his heart) wanted a gaming PC so badly he rented one from Rent A Center which at least was "rent to buy" but by the time he finished all the payments it was going to cost him $3k for a $1.5k PC. I told him to take that POS right back and built him the equivalent for $1.2k with a better GPU, CPU and more memory. He's not alone in that mentality and not thinking things through. Many focus on "can I afford the payment to have this item now?" versus doing the math and exploring better financial methods to obtain those items because they can't or won't think long term. I've even dealt with that mentality with family and friends trying to explain to them how much money they will end up losing and many times their response is, "I just want it now." Then you throw in companies like NZXT who take gross advantage of that mentality to absolutely abuse the financials of buyers to such gross extremes it HAS to be called out and luckily we have "tech influencers" (gag) with enough clout and standards to make companies change their ways because the tech sector is a finicky beast and sales can turn on a dime. --- GN has its issues. Steve is not the best presenter, long winded and prone to sensationalism but he does get the job done and is thorough in his fact finding and bringing companies and organizations to task. He has a few times stepped over the line a bit and was reeled back in though. Good example is GN vs LTT. He had the momentum but then went a little too far and could feel his crowd turn on him a hair so he dialed it back.

I have all of those mentioned and the XSPC Photons are hands down my favorite based on how they are designed. That said, the Eisbecher Auroras are very nice and well built. Beware of the Photon X4 units. They are made well, but they use a proprietary XSPC pump. Otherwise, they look the same as a D5 and function the same, but good luck finding a replacement X4 pump if you need one. Titan Rig has Photons on sale 25% off. https://www.titanrig.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Photon

It’s strange because it is quite the opposite for other chips. Using my 3175X I can run R15 at 5.0Ghz probably lol. But R23 is gonna hit limits at 4.7-4.8Ghz range. So there is something with the instruction used on a 13/14th gen chip that makes R15 the toughest of them all. @electrosoft @Mr. Fox I really had to take a close look to even see a motherboard inside that big case at all!!! Wow. Where’s it at? 🤣

Hmmm. Should be better than Thermalright TF-9. Thats an very hard task even for any high-end thermal paste. Maybe a very good soultion for graphics cards. Xingu GPE-01 Graphene Thermal Pad Will Outperform Any CPU Thermal Compound – 4 Degrees Cooler Than TF9 It is the great hope of CPU users for 2025. Since it was presented we have been dealing with all the available data on this thermal pad (or thermal pad for the classists of the term) and as we saw at the time, it promises a lot... 4C lower temp with 16W higher power consumption. Not bad if this is correct.

The only picture showing the appearance of the product at present makes everything about DELL Pro Max 18 Plus seem clear? But in fact, this picture is not clear and some details cannot be determined: It is even possible that the distortion and blurring caused by the angle and light when taking the photo are caused by the product rendering. The following analysis and speculation are all wrong. Appearance: bulge at the bottom rear? A side (screen cover) styling style: Compared with the original Precision 7000 series, it can be said that there is no big change. It is still a CNC-made metal shell, the color is still silver-gray, the surface should still have a matte texture, and the edges and corners still use a smooth transition shape. The only difference that can be found is that the central DELL logo seems to have no original circle around it, only the English letters "DELL". There are more changes on the B and C sides: Point 1: The screen has changed from a 17.3-inch 16:9 ratio to a 16:10 ratio; the physical size of the screen has increased by about 5 mm in the horizontal direction and about 27 mm in the vertical direction. When both have 4K resolution, the dot pitch is similar, both are about 0.10, and the PPI is also similar, both are a little over 250; but it is obvious that the physical area of the 18-inch screen is much larger, increasing by about 114 square centimeters---it can be understood as slightly smaller than the area of 11x11 centimeters. Point 2: The area of the touchpad seems to be larger and the position is closer to the central axis; Point 3: A part of the middle edge of the palm rest is cut off to form a concave place, which is conducive to opening the screen cover as a hand-held force point; Point 4: A dedicated Copilot key for starting the AI function is added to the keyboard, so there may be no alt or ctrl key on the right, because the keyboard layout looks the same and the total number of keys does not seem to have increased. There are also changes on the D side (bottom): Two sets of heat dissipation grilles are added near the front of the fuselage, claiming that the three cooling fans used for the first time in a mobile workstation should be at the rear of the fuselage, and none of them should be placed at the front. Due to the unclear picture, it is impossible to identify how the claimed quick release of the fuselage bottom cover is achieved. In addition, the most puzzling thing is: the rear of the fuselage seems to be obviously raised, and you can see that the heat dissipation grille at the rear is on this protruding part? Is this a new design to enhance the heat dissipation effect in order to achieve the so-called TDP of 200 watts? Port: No power jack? Ports on the right side of the fuselage From left to right, they are as follows: 3.5mm audio output and input composite jack; USB-C: USB 4.0, supports DP output----it is possible to support USB PD 3.1 charging function up to 240 watts, which will be analyzed below. Two USB-A: It should be USB 3.2 Gen 1, one of which supports the shutdown power supply function (PowerShare); Security lock hole. It can be seen that compared with Precision 7770/7780, there is an additional USB-A port on the right side of the fuselage, and the SD card reader has been moved to the left side of the fuselage. In addition, it can be clearly seen from this picture that the vertical size of the 18-inch 16:10 body is obviously larger than that of the 17-inch 16:9. Ports on the left side of the body From left to right, they are as follows: RJ45 Ethernet port; HDMI port: should still be HDMI 2.1; Two Thunderbolt 5 ports: SD card reader: located in the middle of the left side of the body near the front; SC card reader. Compared with the Precision 7770/7780, there is one less USB-A port on the left side of the body, and there is no dedicated power interface. It only adds an SD card reader that was cancelled on the right side of the body; At the same time, the distance between the two Thunderbolt 5 ports seems to have not changed. Maybe you can continue to use the TB18DC docking station with dual Thunderbolt plugs? Question: Bump and power supply Bump? At the back of the body, the existing pictures cannot show the whole situation, and it is not certain whether there are any ports at the back of the body. Judging from the current pictures, the rear end of the fuselage is obviously bulging: Moreover, there is no screen axis at the back, while the screen axis of the Precision 7770/7780 is completely visible from the back. Is the bulge at the bottom of the rear end of the fuselage, which is used to lift the rear of the fuselage, a new design for heat dissipation to enhance the airflow discharge and intake at the rear and bottom of the fuselage? If so, this shape is really hard to accept, and there are also big problems when putting it in a computer bag. I hope this is just an illusion caused by the unclear picture. Power supply? According to the only existing picture, no dedicated DC power interface is observed for the DELL Pro Max 18 Plus. If it is confirmed that there is no dedicated power interface, it means that among the two Thunderbolt 5 ports and the USB-C port on the right side of the fuselage, there must be a USB PD 3.1 charging function that supports 240 watts. Considering its claim of "supporting USB-C single-wire docking station" (support Type-C and Single Dock), even if there is a dedicated power interface, I think: Of the three USB-C ports, there should be one on the left and one on the right that supports 240W PD charging, so that the USB-C single-wire docking station can be used to provide 240W PD power supply without connecting to the power supply at the same time. However, even so, the author still has a question: If there is only 240W power supply, is the TDP of DELL Pro Max 18 Plus 200W just a momentary peak? According to my experience, to achieve a long-term stable TDP of 200 watts for the whole machine, whether it refers to only the CPU TDP of 200 watts or the CPU+GPU total of 200 watts, it is not realistic if there is only a 240-watt power supply; The following is the statistical data of the author's test of MSI CreatorPro X18 in September; It can be seen that during the long-term CPU stress test, GPU stress test, and CPU+GPU dual stress test of MSI CreatorPro X18, the actual power of its power supply has no valley value lower than 240 watts, the lowest average is higher than 266 watts, and the highest peak even reaches 455 watts! Therefore, the power supply used by MSI CreatorPro X18 is 400 watts. Therefore, we have to wait and see what the power supply solution used by DELL Pro Max 18 Plus is! Therefore, whether the three-fan cooling solution used by DELL Pro Max 18 Plus adopts a deliberately raised bottom design is also worrying...

Should be resolved now

It’s for the ltx gold 10900 system. That thing absolutely sucks without no dedicated GPU. The iGPU is more or less useless the motherboard only has HDMI out, and that can only run the desktop at 4K@24HZ it’s really a poor experience. I may run it on the Dominus in the future in a pinch if I sell the 4090. I had a modified bios with Rebar added on my other Dominus. Also, check this out. So, I sold one of my Dominus boards right. So before shipping it out, I pulled my daily Dominus and installed the other Dominus that I bought on eBay as “Not working/Un-tested”, wanted to do a good thorough testing with 192gb ram all slots filled just to make sure it works 100% before shipping to someone as “Working”, I briefly tested it before with 1 ram slot just loading in the bios, so I wanted to do a full Windows load, run a game with it etc. Turns out, this one doesn’t have the cold bug 🤣 and this one is using some much older microcode that is just blistering blistering fast. So I ended up shipping my daily Dominus to the buyer and keeping this eBay Dominus instead. 😎 No cold bugs, and OG Microcode before all the Spectre meltdown stuff. Buyer was assuming board would have cold bug anyways, because I didn’t know if it did or didn’t lol. Also, I knew that my Dominus was absolutely 100% reliable. So It really ended up working out better. I also sent the buyer the parts to repair the cold bug as well. (My Daily Dominus included a whole reel of small SMD’s to repair the cold bug that it had) so I sent him some of these. Central Computers literally just gave me an update. Ordered early Friday morning, tracking provided Tuesday afternoon. 🙏

I don't use it anyhow. No need for silly bloat like that IMHO. I felt the same way about GeFarts Experience and do not install it. There is nothing I can identify to suggest a good reason for me to install the new NVIDIA App or GeFarts Experience. I am very sad with the thought that the no-nonsense legacy NVIDIA Control Panel will be going away. It's going to suck having to install the App trash

Joining me on the sidelines? 🙂 I'm rocking this 4070 Super with a 60 day return window if needed. It is doing well enough that I could limp along with it for months on end if needed. No coil whine, handles FO76 just fine, WoW can get dicey sometimes but not a deal breaker at 4k but had to drop it down from 10 to 8 and now 7 w/ RT off so I'm feeling it and its small bus and less than half the 4090 power. I've already decided if the 5090s are just beyond stupidly priced with idiotic tariff adjustments in place to top off insult to injury, I'll just ride this for an indefinite length of time or return it and then pick up a discounted Aqua 7900xtx for my loop build out or 8800xt depending on price/performance.

Nice! Yet another reminder why I'll be going with soft tubing. It always looks great but I'm in and out of the systems too much 🙂 @Mr. Fox I'm leaning towards the Alphacool Core 1 Aurora as it seems to be on par with the Heatkiller and is compatible with AM5 and Socket 1700. Any insight or is the Heatkiller compatible with both too? Igor shows ithe Aurora basically equal with the Heatkiller for 13th/14th and a smidge better on AM5.

It reflects badly on NZXT for sure. But, I think it reflects even more negatively on the people that signed up for such an idiotic idea, because they lacked common sense to such a degree that they could not recognize how stupid and fiscally foolish it was. Taking advantage of stupidity isn't nice, but it is not the same as using deception, fraud and treachery to mislead otherwise intelligent people into believing your lies. They didn't do that here, they just took advantage of idiots. Bad, but not the same magnitude of crime. Being stupid is a tragic thing.

Agreed. There is a widely held misnomer that tuning isn't really required with X3D and that is a fallacy especially when the cache is exhausted/saturated. World of Warcraft has been shown to really benefit from tight timings vs bandwidth over and over when things are said and done. Of course if you can have both then why not? 🙂 *Sigh* hopefully the chips act and the fact Intel can't sell their foundries along with the removal of Pat along with 18a in the wind will get them back on track. @Talon How has the 4090 testing been going with the 9800X3D vs 14900KS vs 285k?