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Hahaha, the PRO 7995wx is good even Overkill for what is needed it but it was an offer i cannot refuse😆😆. Was in holiday and didnt have time for it. Still need to optimize and rearange Cables inside, got a 9100 Pro2 TB for that Pcie gen 5. Need more ram and also gpus. Ignore the gtx1050 , it's only for tests. I will need to get an riser 90 degree to fit the gpu inside. But I love the mainboard, Asrock wrx90 ws evo, went with it because the other wrx90 is from Asus and I despise them. More expensive as the asrock and full of problems .Reddit and forums are full of them. STUPID Asus wants over 1k euro for that mainboard and still cannot make it work. The Asrock is incredible, so many options, bulid like a tank, a lot of connectivity, bmc remote management is superb. And it booted and did the whole diagnostic and memory training in under 3 minutes. That's good for a complicated platform like the threadripper.I love it. Use case it will be my homelab brain. Will run a gazillion VMs because Cores are plenty and I will also start Local AI training. Still need to decide on gpus..maybe I will get some Rtx A series ore Rtx Ada for it.

Mission accomplished! 🤣 (Out to dinner with the wifey tonight for her birthday)....... 5090 for $2054 total in my hand secured...... Foxtrot Tango Whiskey.... (That look when you refused to pay the stupid high prices, returned your Astral, and calmly waited and watch the market to drop and hoping to snag an Open box sub $2k).....

Thought you all might appreciate a few photos I took from my own reference of the internals since it was my biggest interest on the redesign

Mission accomplished. 100% working. My UPS is screaming bloody murder now and a quick MSI Kombustor run is now showing nearly 1200W getting pulled from the wall, whereas before it was between 850-900W doing the same thing. It was not possible to do the Jufes incognito shunt mod because this new style of resistor has the solder points lower than the black plastic part of the resistor. Older resistors were the opposite, with the solder points on each end being flush or taller than the plastic. The resistors don't make contact as the solder points unless you use solder to bridge the air gap with this newer design. The dimensions are also smaller, so even if I had the right resistors in terms of resistance they would have been too long to work. So, she is soldered. I figured out on the second resistor that it worked easier to flip it over with the labeled side facing the original resistor. It was easier to hold in place for soldering with them face-to-face instead of labeled side up due to the shape of them. I have to leave for a doctor's appointment in a few minutes but I will do more testing tonight and this weekend. Will most likely hook up the chiller tomorrow. Here are the PCB photos. Very well-made GPU. Shunted resistors... Looks like Kombustor was drawing around 800-900W. @tps3443

Some tests, still need to activate expo. Also the 9100 Pro 2Tb. The AIO fans are blowing exact on the SSD port so with the default mainboard heatsink didnt exceed 34 Celsius. The layout of a Rack 2u Case has it advantages 😁. But the sound is not one of them. The 40mm fan from the 1U PSU is like a jet engine 🤣

Happy birthday brother @Papusan!!! May today be the first day of the best year of your life, filled with blessings and happiness

Read through and let me know if you think I should even bother picking up the MSI Vanguard I have on hold at Microcenter atm for $40 more than the Ventus..... So status of the MSI 5090 Ventus..... First, my local MC also put out a Vanguard 5090 that was on the back shelf, same situation marked as clearance for $2074.99 = $2101.83 out the door after MCC 5% off + tax. I snagged that one to hold for pickup as I can get that one for $40 more when all is said and done than the Ventus, but my dilemma is this Ventus is rocking my socks well enough atm and making it hard for me to ever pay more for an upper end model ever again. Another pet peeve, why do they put a proper, full wide body three slot bracket on the Ventus but not their other models including the Suprim and Vanguard? This thing is locked in right now feeling like EVGA's 3090ti (still put a GPU sag stand under it though). Zero RGB is nice and I like the black and silver look of the GPU plus zero RGB electrical budget. Quieter than the Astral both fans and coil whine and that's saying something on the coil whine front as the Astral I had to stand next to my case, panel off and then I could hear something >200fps. This quiet storm I had over 300fps and even in Timespy it shrugged it off. I had to put my ear almost on the card to hear basically anything. The quietest card so far I've had is the 5080FE but this one is a close second followed by the Shadow 5080 followed I think with the Liquid 4090 then Astral. All top 5 were crazy quiet. Cost Rant: --------------------------------------- So let me pre-empt this that after flying that close to the sun paying $3600 for an Astral 5090 that my goal for the cheapest 5090 was basically no coil whine and doesn't overheat. I don't care how or where it clocks. That was it. A bad 5090 is still a 5090 and using air cooling only your options are limited anyhow. Just be at or under $2k and don't be super noisy and we're good. If I overclock and you can't break 3ghz it is what it is..... With that being said, and speaking of Asus, it just irritates me a bit that this $2k Ventus is performing on par or better than my former $3600 Astral. There needs to be some proper binning done at some point to truly make paying 40%+ more worth it. If I had picked this card up and still had the Astral, I would have been foaming at the mouth. Of course if you're going to block/chill/LN2 or something past standard cooling, this doesn't apply to you as that is outside of my use case. I'm sure some of this is driver differentials at play. Ventus vs Astral (Ventus on stock MSI vBIOS / Astral on stock vBIOS): 1.090 vs 1.090 stock voltage boost 1.110 vs 1.110 +100 voltage boost 2947mhz vs 2977mhz stock clocks max voltage boost lock 3382 vs 3465 cap idle Deus Ex and World of Warcraft Oribos benchmark comparison: ---------------------------------------------------------------- World of Warcraft Oribos: Ventus vs Astral --------------------------- 192fps vs 186fps stock 212fps vs 210fps +375/+350 core / +3000 mem / +100 voltage Deus Ex: Astral vs Ventus --------------------------- Stock: OC (+3000 / +350 / +100 voltage): PX1 Boost Lock:

Morning all. Lot's has happened over the past 4 years. To put this in perspective, the 9000 AMD cards are the polaris cards. That year, they did not bring the high end. And Moore's law is dead already mentioned and commented on leaks of a giant card in the next round of RDNA cards. Which is sorely needed. The real deal is we need MORE RAM. But I'm getting into local AI, so I am biased. Yes, part of the enemy. lol.

Happy birthday to her. But the birthday present is for you?

If I decide to keep it I am going to. I do really like this Zotac Solid OC model. The aesthetics, build quality, size and performance compared to most of the other options is really good IMHO. Thank you. I will have to drop back to those drivers and re-run all of the benchmarks again. I suspect my Sky Diver and Fire Strike and Time Spy scores will also likely go up using old (better) drivers. The newer ones are mostly gamer crap I think. Thank you. I paid $2399 for it. Cheaper than we have seen AIB 5090 selling for, but still probably not worth it when I stop to think about it. Nice GPU, but way too much money for how little gain (related to price) that I am seeing over my 4090. I dusted off the portable AC unit sitting in the garage and parked it in front of the GPU and that made a huge difference in boost clock. I can't catch brother @Papusan with his arctic temperatures. His max load temps are about 15-20°C lower than mine and that really makes a big difference. Anyhoo, so far I am running like 3300-3325 MHz core and that is losing around 200 MHz on account of the higher load temps, but pretty much pegged at the 600W limit (605-610W). Maybe if I keep it and block/shunt/chilled water it, I might be able to give him more of a run for the money. Its too close to stock behavior right now to get within slapping distance. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5878520 https://www.3dmark.com/sw/2591206 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5878519 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3594837 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_vulkan/submissions/5878517 https://www.3dmark.com/sn/7957241 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5878516 https://www.3dmark.com/sn/7957336 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay/submissions/5878515 https://www.3dmark.com/sb/326913 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/5878513 https://www.3dmark.com/spy/57999178 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike/submissions/5878511 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33672605 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_sky_diver/submissions/5878518 https://www.3dmark.com/sd/6526977

I do the same thing, I do not entertain people wasting my time. In other news, I have been promoted a couple of times at work and its smack dab in the middle of the busy season for my line of work which is why I haven't been able to post. It certainly seems the forum needs some work again and we are entertaining moving the host to another platform. I'll be bugging Hiew about that maybe to happen this holiday weekend. As for actual tech related topics... I have been considering the alphacool 1080mm radiator and stand. 200 USD seems acceptable. If I go this route, are the Nidec Servo's still heralded as one the better fans to go with? I have been partial to the 2150RPM variant as I used it for probably 6-7 years at this point. Taking 3rd place kind of bugs me for the 7900 XTX, so I have been mulling it over for some time but water + liquid metal are likely the only way to hit higher overclocks whilst taming the hotspot.

It was difficult and stressful to resolve. Thank goodness there are always a few good people that care enough to help, but sometimes finding the right button to push is difficult. Sometimes you never do. I think I got lucky this time. I called her out by name in the survey that wasn't positive other than her involvement.

Be careful to not believe anything you hear or read from mainstream media sources. They are dishonest and most of what they publish is a deliberate creation of distortions, fabrications and inappropriate extrapolations. Crafted for the sole purpose of deception and division, perpetrated by a dying cluster of woke America-hating lunatics and criminals trying to resuscitate a nefarious agenda that is being dismantled brick-by-brick. Light destroys darkness. The part nobody that suffers from TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome) wants to talk about is that the current administration has already delivered in spades on their promises and the nation is already raking in a fortune in tariffs and rebalanced trade arrangements. Things are going exactly as they should be and how patriotic smart people want them to be going, with unprecedented federal revenue flowing in from foreign sources (reciprocal tariffs) and on pace to eclipse what has ever been collected through domestic taxation of American citizens. Combined with the successful seek and destroy mission on internal government-backed fraud and misuse of tax dollars for unworthy and inappropriate purposes, wrongs are being righted in more ways than what can be counted. In a few short months this has been successful to such an extent that income taxes on social security benefits (which could be viewed as double taxation), tips and overtime are no longer necessary, federal income tax obligations for most private citizens and small businesses has been dramatically reduced, with potential to be abolished if they do not get too much insurrection activity from the leftist lunatic fringe. In spite of the insane shrieking and whining about it by a tiny group of traitors and plain old weirdos, our borders are secure for the first time ever. Illegal immigration is moving rapidly in the direction of zero and has already decreased 93% compared with February 2024. South American drug, weapons and human trafficking cartels are being systematically exterminated (literally) by our amazing armed forces. The city with our nation's highest murder rate (our Capital, Washington DC) and out of control crime sanctuary is being reigned in. In a matter of days, the murder rate has been cut from unprecedented levels to single digits in DC, carjacking has decreased by 83%, robberies by 46%, car thefts by 21%, and overall violent crime is down 22%. More good and right things have been achieved in 6 months than the past 60 years, and there is more to come. Thank God. UPDATE! Good news! The effort paid off. A person at UPS cared and listened and looked into it. Based on things mentioned in my emails she realized it was erroneously calculated by UPS. The duty was reduced from around $461 to $81. I thanked her and let her know that I sincerely appreciate her caring enough to re-evaluate it. Hopefully the UPS delivery driver will return with the package tomorrow or Monday and collect the $81. I also emailed Aquatuning to let them know. See attached redacted info. Revised Invoice | UPS

Yeah, the scalpers were all over those still trying to hold onto the last gasp of scalping..... I hope they get caught with a metric ton of stock but alas the holidays are right around the corner and I expect prices to soar right back up..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Finished collecting some OC Deus Ex Mankind Divided runs. I like Deux Ex and the Dawn Engine. DX12, no RT and can cap out the 5090 to 100 right from the jump to the end with all the eye candy and setting jacked to max (aka, every setting clicked/slid to the right) Astral vs Ventus vs Vanguard.

Thank you. I will report back if it has any effect on voltage or performance. If nothing else the +4% power limit should help. Many of the vBIOS do not go past 100% TGP. The Gigabyte vBIOS I am using and the stock Zotac are 100%. It does not seem to have done anything with the voltage for me. With the MSI vBIOS max is 0.005V less for some reason. I matched offsets (not clocks) and the Gigabyte AORUS Master produces the best overall results with the highest power draw. It also has the highest default boost limit maximum without any offset. That is interesting because the AORUS Master power limit shows 600W and max is 100%, but it seems to pull substantially (110.5%) more power in spite of the 100%/600W max the firmware reports in GPU-Z. The stock vBIOS and Master vBIOS do not have any positive power limit offset... 600W at 100% or less. MSI must have done something different at a hardware level to uncap the voltage at a higher maximum because the vBIOS itself does not seem to alter the core max voltage. If a shunt mod doesn't bump it up I may have to do more soldering when the time comes. That is assuming I decide that it is worth the hassle. First things first though. Waterblock must come before power and voltage mods. https://imgur.com/a/SV7jyFv

Well, I'm glad I went ahead and scooped up the Vanguard. The Ventus will be going back. I was worried when I opened it up and all the accessories were still sealed and the card looks basically brand new. This had "no GPU/Memory" written all over it but I know MC tests all their GPU returns on the high end (or they say they do lol). This thing is a legit chonker heading closer to the Astral size behemoth. It is a true 4 slot big boy. Again near zero coil whine. I'd rank this one right around the Astral. 5080FE and Ventus 5090 are just on another level in the noise department coil whine wise. The Ventus is the overall winner in coil whine and fan noise combo gaming. Louder fans. Right in between the Astral and the Ventus in noise levels. In a quiet room they stand out. With any type of audio going they disappear. It just makes the Ventus seem like it runs near silent in comparison. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stock boost max = 1.105v / 2962mhz (vs Ventus 1.090 / 2947mhz) Locked boost +100 voltage = 1.125v / 3000mhz (vs Ventus 1.110 / 2977mhz) Idle clock max = 3420 (vs Ventus 3382) TimeSpy +3000 / +350 / +100 voltage: Ventus: Vanguard: An hour or so of WoW 4k Ultra RT Max settings:

That better not be a Janky yellow dongle I see😂. Be very careful!

Facebook attracts the worst buyers sprinkled sparingly with decent folk. The lowball offers are insane. The responses even worse. Put up a $500 GPU and $800 system and these are all variations of actual responses over the years.... "Will you take $100?" "I don't have any money. Could you give it to me?" "I really would like this for my little brother but I don't have much. How about $200?" "I can go $250 which I think is fair...." "I can trade <Insert worthless item here>" "How about I trade my old GPU and $100?" (Old GPU is worth $100 tops) "I'll take it for asking! Let's meet up at (Totally equivalent of a dark alley)" "Do you check cash? If so, how?" "I don't like to meet in Banks" (Immediate currency check, cameras) "I don't like to meet in Police Stations" (Safe trade space, power available) As a buyer: "Cash and carry, no testing" "I don't like to meet in Starbucks" (power available for testing) "I don't like to meet in Police Stations" (Safe trade space, power available)

An idiot from Facepoot messaged me a few days ago about my 9070 XT ad with "$650" and said nothing else. I replied back "today only, come get it while you can" and he never replied. He messaged me around midnight tonight. Further proof he is a dumbass. "$600" this time, so I replied "$675" and said nothing more. If he replies with $625 then I will reply $725. (Listing is $700.)

I surprised her with the Series 10 Apple Watch she has been wanting for quite some time and a no holds barred dinner. Funny, we went to Microcenter and it was getting a little late and I didn't get a chance to look around like I wanted (I could have spent 2-3hrs in there easily. So much sale and clearance stuff it was insane). While looking at rows upon rows of clearance motherboards I turned to her and said, "can you believe all this stuff? wow!" and she looked me dead in the eye with a smirk and said, "Is it your birthday too?" 🤣 I knew right then and there it was time to pack up and head out to the stores and dinner for her birthday. I'm warning you @Mr. Fox and please take these words to heart.... ....Microcenter is a dangerous place to peruse with a credit card in hand. It is doubly dangerous with a Microcenter Credit card getting 5% off items at checkout.... When your MC opens up in Arizona, you have been warned. 🤑

Sure ! That was FHD LCD, and thanks! No, only 8560w. 8770w is very rare "pokemon" in my place. And cost waay too much, like 300-400$. With MXM cards, if it fits heatsink, then it is matter of correct vbios, which you need to find out yourself, propably. Or look for info in NBRChive (old forum) --- About eDP Panel! Some good news, some bad. Good is my 4K cable works ! Panel is damaged, though. But I saw backlight working and content (bios logo). Bad news is those cable work only without installed GPU drivers. Also UEFI is a must, otherwise LCD won't even turn on. I experimented on spare HP and I could set up even FHD resolution, but after installing drivers laptop don't even shows internal panel connection. Only external output works. This is problem I had in my Clevo before, I tried to upgrade screen to 4K and it also worked until installing drivers. Seems like I need to troubleshoot another problem. I heard about EDID, now I need to check out how to program them or something.. So we're halfway to success...

Unfortunately I strongly dislike colors that are not a neutral black / silver / grey base color and these are what - blueish / turquoise? And do they still have the rubber-finish on the palm rest? Also not a fan of the inverted mainboard design that makes maintenance a pita. Too bad Alienware has decided to go that way. With that being said I love that they don't give a shit and make these quite deep and heavy and also the cherry keyboard is great and of course the cooling.

Someone snatched one of these up at Walmart for $1,124.99. But I’d still get it at $2000. Walmart is crazy lol.

lesson learned for the 6090: will not bother to spam refresh during launch, but rather lean back and enjoy the 5090 3-4 months longer until prices come down to normal levels 🙂 (watch me eat my words once the 6090 actually launches 😄)

If it is any consolation, I already wiped the stock install and did a optimized clean clean install and with just that Steel Nomad and Timespy at stock went from "good" to "excellent" in both. Dell always has the trash cookie cutter OS installs. Now to start dabbling with the BIOS CPU OC options and OC this 5070ti and see where we can take this finely milled piece of beauty. 🤣 Ugh, I was out of town a few months ago and we stopped at a random mall and they had another full on CROC STORE! I hissed at it and shielded my eyes from the horror! 🤣 Interesting fact, kids at my wife's school are banned from wearing these because they do not promote sure footing and can cause potential accidents or trips/falls. 🙂 This can mean only one thing! @Mr. Fox is keeping his 5090!! Now I feel like the odd man out!! I need to double down looking for a good open box deal or promo! If a good deal on a 5090 comes my way, I'll end up passing the 5080 down to the Mrs. and the 9070xt to my daughter as I have a whole pile of components to build out her new desktop or if she is leaning towards one of my full fledged gaming laptops one of those since I have like 7 of them again.....

BF6 Beta was such a TEASE! The game was INSANE. Now we cannot play anymore!!! 😭I got to rank 10 Can't wait for next weekend. This game needs to launch already! @Talon was hitting it harder than me lol. I wish I would have started playing it earlier. Anyways, it's amazing how useful cover is in this game. And spray someone with a M4 takes a little practice as first. But you can get the pattern down after some practice. GREAT GAME! Game was completely butter smooth. Maybe once per hour you would feel the tinniest stutter, but not enough to care. And it could have been because my frame rate was like sub 400 with x4 Frame gen on. Anyways. Fantastic game! It feels FASTER moving than other Battlefield titles. Kinda like a mix between COD and BF2042. I really like it! We can play again on 8/14 THRU 8/17 Can't wait.

BINGO

This one is better.

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! who is this guy and what happen to Mr.Fox?? All AMD rigs? Ryzen themed wallpaper? 🤣 BRENNER is Totally AMD fanboy’n it up in 2025. Hahaha. I’m just messing with you man lol. 😆 I’m about to jump to AMD soon my self. The new Threadripper 9960X has me drooling, and it’s the first time in years since original AMD Threadripper 1900X/1920X/1950X when I have really really wanted something from them like this. 🤩 You got to shunt mod and block that Zotac 5090. ASAP! But it’s a GREAT GPU. I don’t care if it’s Zotac or other brand, good price, good performance, let it rip! The 5090 is a great improvement over 4090. Very efficient! Better silicon, higher clocks, less voltage needed, better thermal transfer. The 32GB VRAM works great in a few high memory leak games I play, that still can’t fill up the VRAM. I can play for hours and will see 28GB VRAM utilized, and the 1% lows are butter smooth and no skips. For speedway you want 572.43 or 572.83, Steel nomad still loves 576.28 lol. Anyways, shunt mod won’t increase voltage it’ll just allow the max voltage to always be tapped as if the card is pulling 50 watts, but it’s really pulling 600+ watts, so it’s not throttling back the voltage anymore. You can exceed 600w in some heavy games and benches even with just 0.895mv on these monsters. 🔥you will notice the power limit can kick in much sooner than 600w and it’s all for the sake of maintaining stability trying to fit in that small power envelope, so without shunt it’s forcing down clocks and voltages. Either way, it’s a great GPU and a solid upgrade over the 4090. Especially for brutally heavy gaming like many games upscaled to 8K, the 5090 just chews right through it with ridiculous memory bandwidth. Pricing isn’t bad nowadays. It looks like you got a good deal! As far as shunt modding, I would go for soldering (2) 2mohm shunts or maybe even (2) 1mohm shunts. 2mohm will give you 1200w max, and 1mohm will give you 1800w max. The thing is you may see phantom throttling much sooner than that so the more the better. Reliability is top notch! No melting cables here. I trust it 100%! All buttoned up in a closed case with some serious GPU power being put out in BF6 at 3.3Ghz on the core! I’ve had mine since March, and have been shunted since June. It has been 100% reliable with no 🔥🔥🔥🔥

We are surrounded by stupid. Here is some new well-deserved Razer hate... https://youtu.be/8w8m1UuLsEQ I received the shunt resistors yesterday so I will probably do the mod tomorroww.

Why we do NOT discuss politics. Narf

Alcohol was my drug of choice when young...a couple beers and this at full volume after some stressful event. Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells

No she would not be. But, she is in WA visiting relatives and friends. I have 2 more weeks of having free reign of the house and then I will have to retreat to my hot little laboratory. The dining table seems to be a universal taboo with the ladies. If I scratch it that is the end of the world. If the grandkids scratch it, that is adding "character" to the table, LoL. 🤣

OK I think I am done now Fire Strike - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747306 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike/submissions/5888849 Fire Strike Extreme - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747317 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike_extreme/submissions/5888851 Fire Strike Ultra - https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33747324 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike_ultra/submissions/5888853

Also still working on that Pro Max 18 Plus order as I still think its closer to what I want in an 18 inch laptop. The sales rep said they had an internal SKU issue so a new quoted order would have to be placed. The RTX 5000 Blackwell mobile can draw up to 175W this year just like the 5090 mobile.

Congratulations on the promotion(s) brother. I have no doubt they were well-deserved. Honestly, that 1080 Nova 360x360 radiator and case are as good or better than a MO-RA 360. Works just as well, costs less, weighs a whole lot less and takes up less space than a MO-RA, just not as flashy-looking. I loved mine and sometimes wish I had not sold it. @tps3443 had excellent service from his, too. If I were still using an open bench that would be the one I recommend. You can mount your D5 pumps/reservoirs directly to each side of it. As far as fans go, you need very high static pressure. Arctic P12 MAX or P12 Pro are the best bang for the buck. Don't spend more for something not better that makes more noise. Here is a parts list I recommend for the external radiator build based on what I have used. High Static Pressure Fans: https://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-P12-Pro-PST-CO/dp/B0DJDCBCC2 -or- https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DJDBV48H Reasonably priced, high quality and fantastic 6.9 mmH₂O static pressure. The outer ring on the tips of the fan blades is a design advantage and makes the blades stronger as well as being more effective. Power Supply: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CYZMK89X?th=1 You can buy molex or SATA extensions (depending on what your pumps use) like these and cut the input end off to create two pigtail connectors to solder the output ends to the power and ground wires on the PSU to run the fans and pumps. This type of PSU unit is compact and looks better than a bunch of extra un-used wires. Before I discovered this type of PSU I had used these before as well, which worked fine but were a lot more bulky in comparison. Fan Hub and Speed Control: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DS2273B8?th=1 I recently discovered this item and besides working well for fan speed it is more affordable than what I used in the past (a Noctua control with a manual knob that costs a lot more) that required a separate fan hub. This will run all 9 fans with SATA power from the PSU. Custom Fan Filter: To help keep the fans and radiator clean and free of lint and dust, I made a custom filter using a magnetic black fiberglass window screen similar to this cut-to-fit kit. Easy to remove and clean and looks like it was made specifically for the application when all is said and done. The steel Nova 1080 radiator case supports the magnetic attachment. D5 Pump and Reservoir: I have owned two of these and they are excellent and affordable. They fit well on the sides of the Alphacool 1080 Nova radiator housing. Alphacool Core 100 Aurora reservoir Acetal/Acryl with VPP Pump. You can attach the black acetal pump block directly to the radiator case using the included machine screws. No need for the included brackets. Just drill the holes in the radiator housing and bolt it on. Tip: use the bracket designed to bolt the pump body to a 120/140mm fan as a template for drilling the holes to bolt it to the case. No need to measure the distance between the holes on the pump body before drilling.

Nice! I'll be looking forward to the results to draw some comparisons especially that 5090 stomping on the 5070ti in mine. I wouldn't mind either going back up to MC to play with that Raider a bit more at $2999.99 or picking one up to test drive. I think you'll be pleased with the thermals and noise especially compared to the Raider. And yeah, Tazevesh takes NO prisoners including the 5090. It hits harder than any other area overall in the game. Makes for good static testing without player data muddying the results. I still stand by Deus Ex Mankind Divided DX12 Max everything 4k runs also give some good, old fashion raster only results and caps out a 5090 too. Whew, all's well that ends well. It still boggles my mind when you're trying to get something solved and have to keep going through CSRs who should all know how to fix it and you finally stumble upon one who is competent doing their job. In the past, I would get their extensions or ask for a way to contact them directly to help resolve future problems too. Now the real fun begins! Bring on the results. 🙂

Above my budget right now. Maybe I can snatch one from work 😅😂

Yeah it was odd. I scoured the entire store. Played with the Raider, soaked in tons of hardware and still couldn't find anything of note. I have a pile of hardware here now to fully build out another AM5 PC. I might just build it out and sell it locally on TheBookOfFaces. I just upgraded our wifi situation earlier last year so we're good to go for awhile but it is fun when a legit problem presents itself allowing you to go shop and install new tech. 🤣 That is crazy they can't fix the simple error they can all readily identify..... And that 9070xt elite is a banger of a card especially with the upgraded cooling. Now if only UPS could get their act together so we can get that 5090 shunted and blocked.....

You learn something everyday..... I did not know Newegg would do an in store credit within the window if the price drops outside of their "price protection" pre Prime Day / Black Friday price protection (which is them basically saying this item is definitely going on sale). I know Amazon just throws you the birds and says to return it. --------------- Glad you were able to sort it all out and we can get that blocked up and ready to go. Luckily it's a good sample so that adds weight to wanting to hold onto it too. ---------------- @jaybee83 before I start to potentially vBIOS hop around again on the Vanguard, what vBIOS did you settle on for your Suprim as the "one to rule them all?"

Well, at least it was (or will be) corrected. Holy moly I know that first glance had to be a, "WTF?!" Zotac's at MSRP $1999.99 at the Zotac store. Is your return window still open @Mr. Fox? There must be a crazy glut of 5090s if TUFs and SOLIDs are dropping to $1999.99 and fully back at MSRP. I expect more to follow sooner than later in pricing but $1999.99 is finally in line.

9955HX3D vs Ultra 9 275HX "Oh and spoiler, if you care about gaming, AMD's 9955HX3D destroys Intel" If Laptop makers would make BIOSes as close to their desktop counterparts and let users adjust settings as they see fit as STANDARD PRACTICE, I truly do think the 275HX could gain a decent amount of ground on the 9955HX3D. But with all the lockdowns in place and chips basically being stuck outside of slapping in XMP/EXPO modules, you really can't tell what could have been. I'd love to see a Raider A18 shootout 9955HX3D vs 285HX with both having a higher degree of adjustable features and granular control via the hidden open BIOSes on both and see where we land.... I do wish the Intel had 6400 memory vs 5600 as most I've seen most others come equipped with that instead, but still.... Took the 70min trip back up to Microcenter (even though I threw my back out benching yesterday) to setup the MSI vs MSI shootout for later..... I've already collected all the #s I need from the punching way above its weight Ventus the last 2-3 days, so I'll pop it out and pop the "Suprim in Disguise" Vanguard in.... MSI RTX 5090 Vanguard price = $1971.21 + tax MSI RTX 5090 Ventus price = $1932.26 + tax MSI went through a few burned connectors and what makes it worse is they're yellow so they look even more horrific to the eye..... If somehow you get it properly running WoW for a decent gaming experience, I'd be interested in picking one up too. I know a YT'er I follow Trent the Traveler in one of his videos was playing WoW on his handheld..... He Vanlife's all over the place and has a gaming rig set up in his Van and is pretty hardcore into WoW. He is in the process of building out his new rig from top to bottom and Asus sponsored a whole Asus list of gear for him to use. If you ever dreamed of van life and gaming, this is it:

Yeah I'm noticing this one isn't heating up my room as badly as the Astral too. It runs MUCH quieter when gaming. It is the quietest card I've tested since the Liquid 4090. I still have the Vanguard held till closing Monday but I'm not seeing a scenario where it is better but it's an itch I'm probably gonna have to scratch at this price. "Worst" case scenario I hold onto the Ventus that has already checked all my boxes. Why? Because the Vanguard is basically a Suprim. Same PCB and everything except a cooler with one less heat pipe and touch more "gamer" lighting and design. I might as well scoop it up at that price Vanguard ($1971 + tax = $2101.58) vs Ventus ($1932.29 + tax = $2060.30) and at least give it a whirl. Only outlier "issue" is the ~1hr ride to and back from the store. My plan is to scoop this one up, come back, test it with the same standards (30 day return policy on both) then when I return either of them settle in for 2-3hrs of shopping/browsing because the sheer amount of tech and more importantly the vast amount of open box / clearance items was staggering. There was zero chance I could do the store justice and escape intact with they wife on her birthday. 5090 prices overall are definitely heading in the right direction though.....I'll stick with my original assessment and say end of August they will be at their lowest and may dock there for the future or creep back up especially as we head into the holiday quarter. I'm hesitantly recommending if you want a 5090 get one by early to mid September-ish but we'll see.... For reference, here are MSI launch pricing (via reddit): MSI Ventus 3x OC Plus (Black)- $2199.99 MSI GAMING TRIO OC (Black) - $2349.99 MSI VANGUARD SOC (Black) - $2379.99 MSI SUPRIM SOC (Black) - $2399.99 MSI SUPRIM LIQUID SOC (Black) - $2499.99 Current pricing: MSI Ventus 3x OC Plus (Black)- $2299.99 (+100 over MSRP) MSI GAMING TRIO OC (Black) - $2399.99 (+50 over MSRP) MSI VANGUARD SOC (Black) - $2499.99 (+120 over MSRP) MSI SUPRIM SOC (Black) - $2699.99 (+300 over MSRP) MSI SUPRIM LIQUID SOC (Black) - $3279.99 (+780 over MSRP) Soak it up old man! 😁 Shady, but seeing as I have a 14900KS and 275HX in house as my only Intel CPUs now.......speaking of which Ill need to install it back on both my Intel systems for WoW and test it out especially my laptop to see if it can help close the gap in WoW to make the 5070ti proportionally slower to the 4090 in the Raider on the same level as Timespy. I'm going to ride the MSI connector as intended! (DANGER ELECTROSOFT!) 🤣 Microcenter is getting the Dhahab OC 5080 edition too..... All for the low low price of $1900 aka just about what I paid for my Ventus and incoming Vanguard 5090s..... Let me know how many to put on order for ya @Papusan! 🤑 Same, 2166 without touching anything but I had to bump up the juice a little to stabilize 2200. I run it at 2200/6400 with tuned TG 8200 2x24GB sticks. @Prema checks in from time to time to give a hearty hello! I'll be interested to take a look at the Strix Halo mini PC and some benchmarks and results! Not as far as I've seen. Same Adrenalin (or to a degree MSI AB usage now with the newest version) methodology atm. 😞

I Would be sure i have spare cards if using that defective yelowish dongle from MSI. Put it back in the package while you can😁 Even CM's custom cables looks like an okish option compared to that failure from MSI. @ajc9988 @Prema Looked into the thread a week ago. Tagged now, so.. Well see. Yup, Asus is greedy bastards. If they can, they pump up the prices to max. And even further https://videocardz.com/newz/asus-rog-astral-rtx-5080-dhahab-edition-appears-in-dubai-at-2589

Hi. The old man enjoy the sun. 32-34C in the days. But for now I can handle it😁 This is not nice. Intel struggle selling processors for gamers. And they still don't want to support slightly older processors from 12-13th gen. Nothing different than the greedy company Nvidia. Their focus is on current and next gen processors. https://videocardz.com/newz/intel-to-keep-application-optimization-apo-alive-but-focus-shifts-to-current-and-next-gen-cpus

Agreed. Another reason I skipped the PNY. I had BB match it and everything and then said, "no thanks." I mean if it drops to $1999.99 then I will most likely take the trade off but at $2199.99? Pass. Absolutely agree with all those points.....

That’s gonna be rare to absolute mission impossible to find such a deal. I have only seen like two crazy cheap 5090’s from Walmart and that’s one of them. Walmart marks down returns by like 50% apparently. But my Walmart doesn’t even have 5090’s, let alone people returning them there lol.!😂 I think your card for $2,399 is very decent price. I’d be happy with that my self. Only other option would be to return the Zotac and grab the PNY Epic for $2,199 that @electrosoft shared. Save $200 bucks get the same or better at least. 🤷‍♂️ $2,399.99 is a good deal for a 5090 in my opinion though. I think you have a decent card that needs shunt+water. My last BF6 session was pulling down WAYYY more power than that Zotac was I’m certain of it. Also I was set at 3350Mhz boost in MSI Afterburner lol. Thing might hit 30c on the back side on a bad day. Tiny FE PCB is completely sandwiched in Liquid Metal and thermal pads on either side. If any fire starts I think it’s gonna be my power supply, being that it’s a 1200 unit pretending it’s something much bigger. I am not sure how much GPU power BF6 uses. Since I recently disabled GPU power monitoring in my OSD Riva tuner. So I’m not really sure how much the game uses GPU power wise. But that’s surprising any 5090 would catch fire in BF6, I didn’t get the feeling it was one of those (Super GPU power hungry games). My system idles at 340 watts just chilling at the wall. In BF6 I was hitting 1,200 watts at the wall. My CPU was eating 300 watts of that alone. So I’m gonna say maybe 600 watts with a full tilt OC on my GPU. Not a very power heavy game. That Zotac that burned was probably just busted lol.

I would guess human error on the part of the employee that marked it down that much. But, it makes me want to return this one for a refund, LOL.

oh mymy, what have we got here? 😄 welcome to the club bud, curious to see what u can squeeze out of that card. how much did u pay for it? hope u got a good price. yeah, the GB Master vBios seems to be the best if you still need proper fan control. if you dont, then the waterforce xtreme seems to be quite nice, although i dont have any personal experience with that. 1.07V max vcore is quite nice, congratz on that!