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so my 1 1/2 year old son figured out how to open the magnetic side panel on my corsair 9000d. next he decided to pull out one of the hard tubing causing coolant to spill everywhere. nothing was damaged thankfully, but I did learn my pump only runs like 50% most of the time even with cpu on full load, causing high temps. I fixed that and well this is what happens next lol. 4.5Ghz on all cores W7-3465X. Yeah I probably should have kept my 2 RTX 3090s instead of selling them. Turns out they would have lasted awhile longer , but my RTX Titans are fun too. Still need to do the shunt mod. i forgot if it was @electrosoft who sent me a picture of the mod. I saw you were rocking an AMD system. It's unfortunate Intel didn't release the W790 platform with a sibling for a true HEDT successor for us "normal" people. I bought the motherboard for $949 on "sale" at the time. I was lucky to find someone selling a QS CPU for less than half of the $2899 MSRP for the CPU. 128GB RDIMMs before the rampocolypse for ~$700. Overall it came out a bit more than a i9-7980XE platform did back then but this platform screams Mr. Fox especially with the X unlocked CPUs. Nothing like overclocking +1.3Ghz on water pulling over 500w of power. 😂

The Dark Hero fan works amazingly well. I ran it full blast on my test bench. I'm going to miss that feature. I noticed the fan would blow air strongest at a certain point on the fan, and I rotated the fan in the orientation where the ram sticks were getting hit with the best breeze. PS: For some reason BestBuy sent me (2) 9950X3D2's. 💀 I guess it's meant for me to find a 2,200FCLK unit! 😂 Still waiting on motherboard.

I've applied an 800W power limit to the 5080 using mvolt+ Extreme. Works great. WireView Pro 2 showed a max of 825W coursing through its veins. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/6074856 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164088570 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/6074814 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164083593 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/6074816 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164083791 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/6074821 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164084556 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy_extreme/submissions/6074828 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164084873 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_sky_diver/submissions/6074861 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/164089114 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/6074851 https://www.3dmark.com/3dm11/17000869

656W on load at 4.6Ghz 😅 now I know why the breaker trips when my wife uses the microwave in the kitchen and I'm benchmarking LOL

Here are some nice free to play internet arcade games.

Thank you. Yeah, it does have a lot of headroom. The scores are lower but it is actually more fun due to the headroom. Here are the settings applied with mvolt+ Extreme. I still need to test with the 5090. If they can make the function survive NVIDIA driver updates this eliminates the need for hardware mods like EVC2 and shunt resistors.

My new to me rams came!! MBPC.GG is totally legit. These bad boys were $429.99 which is amazing in today’s horrible hardware era. We shall play a game called “Limbo” and I’m going to run them at default 6000c26 Expo profile with merely a 65k tREFi and start taking voltage to see just how low they can go! @electrosoft After some testing on these 6000c26 rams with their stock Expo II timings and I only changed the tREFi to 65,535 I set 1.38v VDD and 1.35v VDDQ in bios and they are SOLID! They are definitely a decent enough bin. I will add this as well, this is with my weaker IMC X3D chip, my other CPU should run them with even lower VDD! Wow! 5090’s sale for $8,000-9,000 USD now.

Yeah I just can’t see my self getting a RTX6090. I think of it like this, the RTX4090 cost $2,500+ so the RTX 5090 is at least +80% more expensive at $4,500 dollars. So we can only assume the RTX6090 at launch will be fetching $8,100+ dollars. And after it settles down probably closer to $7,000 dollars. So $7,000-$8,000 dollars. I cannot see anyway possible it would be less expensive than that. Are you going to get one? I think the gun hobby is the way! We could go buy a Barrett M82 50bmg instead! Or maybe automotive performance parts. Or even exotic unrealistic home improvements. High end GPU’s are dead forever it seems like. They’ll start building NVIDIA dealerships locally and we walk in and test drive the new RTX7090 and finance for 48-72 months with interest! 🤦‍♂️

So 100% stability tested on all three tested 9950X3D2’s. (1) 2167fclk@6000c26 SP117 (Ultra Weak IMC) (This turd already went back) Ran this one on the Dark Hero open box I had. (2) 2200fclk@6200c26 SP118 (Cores use the least power of all, ultra efficient highest clocking chip, it uses the least pwr and has some very low temps. (I actually may have just stabilized 6400c26@1:1) I noticed a discrepancy in screenshots. The auto CLDO VDDP voltage was running at 1.150v stock, my other chip with the strong IMC will automatically run this at 1.045v. So I changed it on this one, and now it’s running VT3 at 6400c26 1:1. 🤷‍♂️ (3) 2167fclk@6400c26 SP118. The chip has such an easy going IMC, it’s just hard not to love it. But the cores don’t run as high although it’s still very good. I’ll probably be keeping chip #2. Further testing will be done with new G.Skill 6000c26 ram kit. Finally a high binned kit to test!

So Im thinking the next step for my setup should be a UPS, I am currently using a really nice extension but its probably time to get a proper power delivery system. From what Im reading something with Sinewave PFC to clean up the power. What do you guys use? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00429N19W?tag=ustxtaddt-20&plpRedirect=mhFallback&ref=clp_hp_h_pc&th=1 This appears to clean power from utility as well as on battery.

Snagged another G.SKILL 8400 kit for a good price to have in my backup/spare parts stash. This was pre-rampocalypse pricing for this kit. It was interesting to see someone bashing the seller for asking too much. Not sure what planet they are from. This is the same memory part number running in the system built in the LIAN LI O11D MINI V2. https://www.overclock.net/threads/g-skill-trident-z5-rgb-ddr5-8400-48gb-2-x-24gb-f5-8400j4052g24gx2-tz5rk.1820341/

The final words (19:06).... Jensen was spot on. Pay more... Get more. Less than this and you got almost nothing. DLSS 5 revives SLI setups: up to 127% more FPS using a second RTX for Neural Rendering The high performance cost of DLSS 5 Neural Rendering has led to SLI configurations gaining popularity among modders.

OMG..... 🤣

Ironically I bought a RTX 5080 in early 2025 before all the AI hype but returned it because it felt weird going from 24GB RTX Titan SLI to RTX 5080. I was hoping to find a 5090 but at this rate I might as well wait for the 6090 😄

I will hopefully be grabbing one day 1 LOL. I swear in my next house I need an entire basement as a man cave for all of this hardware I've been collecting over the years. I want to build a rack of test benches. Setup a nice home gym in one of the corners, a coffee bar and some nice lazy boys in the other corner with a big home theater setup.

Me thinking Intel is going back to pump out more powa😀 Exactly as bro @Mr. Fox want. More to everyone😎 This is what intel need to do. Forget about lowest power possible. Win for every costs. If the cores and cache need more power, then let it get what it needs. And stop make desktop processors from power efficient mobile crap. Leak Confirms Intel's Long-Term Socket Plan with LGA-1954 Intel's "Nova Lake-S" desktop processors are drawing nearer, and today a leaked partner slide from China confirmed many of the plans we anticipated. Starting with the LGA-1954 socket, Intel's testing tools had already verified the pin count. This slide not only confirms the pin count but also introduces a small detail about it. In the bottom left corner, there is a disclaimer stating that Intel plans to keep the LGA-1954 socket for multiple generations.

I enjoyed this video. He states a lot of known truths from memory makers purposely constricting supply. Honestly I don't blame them with past precedent showing over production = collapsed markets. I think they know the AI market is tenuous at this point and to go all in could result in a massive collapse. I do think they are spring boarding off of the AI bubble with tightly controlled production to um "re-imagine" the consumer market pricing by overly constricting supply. There has to be a balance in there somewhere. Time will tell because right now memory is in stock everywhere in droves. Consumers aren't buying at these prices. Nvidia marginalizing gaming into edge computing because AI is the big thing right now I hope it bites them in the arse down the road but I suspect it won't because Nvidia is branching out into serious CPU production and other markets. Nvidia will be the final push that starts to seriously effect Intel and AMD's CPU production segment. All I'm saying is Intel better stay the course with their GPU division like AMD has to fall back upon. They need a two pronged attack while they continue to figure out a way to get their legacy x86 architecture modernized to compete against the M and M like chips coming into their own. "The craft builder is not really going anywhere because their reason to build was never the price and you can't price out a reason that was never about price." This is spot on. We build and tinker for the love of it. His comparison of craft builders vs necessity builders was very valid. He is also on point with the crowd that buys pre built because they just want to plug it in and go and how many who used to like to tinker have transitioned to this crowd. I have SO many life long friends and gaming buddies who used to get in the trenches to build and tweak their rigs to play Quake and Unreal Tournament and early days of WoW who just don't have the time or updated skill sets to build and tweak anymore and when problems arise they get immediately flustered and frustrated and usually turn to me for help where before we shared knowledge and ate our own chow. I think I have one friend left from the early days (circa 90s) who still insists on building his own rig. The rest either go pre-built, a laptop or have switched to Apple. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Anyone who doesn't think 13th and 14th can still bring the pain where applicable is in denial. Dufus is stuck on bad testing and data gathering while asking us to "trust me bro" on the "feel" of games and a lack of consistency. I'm not saying there isn't some validity to what he is claiming, but he has built his entire brand around dry humping Socket 1700. But, as someone who still runs all three and routinely swaps and tests with them even now, Socket 1700 is showing its age. The most recent updates to Agesa (ugh) and gaming as a whole, all that dippity dip dip in WoW is basically gone at this point and remember, I was one of the early ones who was calling it out in the old forums and maybe even here with the 7800X3D vs 13900KS in WoW where there was some absolutely atrocious spots of it that are now gone. Even when I go back to my old "dip" spots to test that is streaming in assets at a high volume, the dip is no longer present. Best case, Socket 1700 is still a ripper in games that can't take advantage of X3D and doesn't pull a lot of power. Worse case, it is a very hot and heavy running CPU that gets left in the dust in games that love X3D while pulling 200w+. Intel badly needs a light and nimble 8 core / 16 thread large cache enabled CPU that doesn't suck down a metric ton of power to game and own. That's it. No more ; no less. I do think we will get that with Nova Lake as even Intel finally realizes they can't compete overall without a big 'ole chunk of cache. Nova Lake new architecture + bLLC is going to be an absolute wrecking ball. It is literally the #1 reason I am holding onto these Corsair Vengeance 9200 sticks to pick up a MB + CPU as soon as I get the ok from @Talon 🤣 ------------------------------------------------------------ Nvidia keeps pushing up pricing to protect margins and profit because quite honestly if the margins aren't there they won't stay engaged in even supplying to the gaming sector since we're now a blip in edge computing to them. Their objective is to keep pushing AI till they're blue in the face.... What's the alternative? People aren't buying 9070xt even though it is competitive against both the 5070ti and 5080. If the current pricing travesties won't push buyers to AMD, nothing will.

Thanks! It works! I copied all of your settings. Only thing I changed was, I flipped the CCD0 55.50 and CCD1 55.25 etc, and I ran 1.500v VDD mainly because I am not sure how good my ram is, I think you had the 6000c26 sticks. But I may try 1.480v now. Very proud of this Intel GSKILL 6800c34 ram kit right now. It has impressed me so much!! I’m absolutely thrilled. Its not a Expo kit, so it runs DCPO, but they seem like an amazing bin.

So far I have been strictly playing with 1:1 memory tuning. 6400c28 is completely solid even with 2,200 fclk. I think I may even can stabilize 6600 1:1. But it starts to show IMC limits at 6600 (1:1) I just tried 1:2 today for the first time, DDR5 8000 1:2 posted up first try. Even with only 1.400v VDDIO. There was definitely something seriously wrong with my last setup to not work. PS: These are my setting below. I can't seem to get my latency down much. I am wondering if its OS related at this point. I even tried some manual Nitro Path settings. I am on a really old bios 1401 from 05/2025.

That's excellent @Reciever got everything up and running! And from the looks of it, he’s got it running really great too! You know, I actually almost kept my first one that was stuck at 2167fclk, and on the very last day to return, I had a change of heart lol (Glad I did!). But I’m playing with it. But the SP#’s are looking good on this one! The 1st CCD is good, but the 2nd CCD is very strong looking. I set a 1.180v Vsoc voltage and loaded right in Windows at 2,200fclk. No wheas! I will do some testing to ensure all is well with it. My last 9950X3D2 would not load 2200fclk no matter what you did! I tried literally everything. Now time for some memory testing, but at this point I’m liking it much better than that very first one. EDIT::: 2,200 FCLK + 6400c30 Gear 1:1 works perfectly fine so far.

So far so good. I received my X870 Strix E-E today from UPS. Very thankful this board has Debug LED! And easy access CMOS battery. 😅 BestBuy sent me “Buy one Get One Free”9950X3D2’s. So I popped one in, and it booted right up with 2200 FCLK, and 6400c30 1:1. Already better results than my 1st 9950X3D2 from a few months ago. I plan to thoroughly test this one and become well acquainted before I drop in the other one for testing. Theres nothing like swapping chips and feeling that crappiness, or feeling the greatness from one to the next. But it takes some really getting to know one chip, or that feeling never occurs with the 2nd. PS: This chip is a SP118, not really sure if that’s good or not. But I’m not too overly worried about core silicon clock-ability. Mainly want good FCLK and good IMC! These 9950X3D2’s just rip bone stock anyways. I will report back with anymore further findings and what the 2nd 9950X3D2 is.

Good Evening Everyone! Finally had some time to set aside to upgrade to the platform I purchased from Brother Fox. CPU and Memory are phenomenal, had the profile from Mr. Fox when he had this and thus far its been great. Had to apply a bit more LM and reseat the direct die block for temps to be where they should otherwise its been a breeze! The one weird issue I havent been able to square quite yet is the 9070 XT. Since the combo was coming included with a CPU and RAM block, I decided to block the 9070 XT also so now everything is in a loop 9070 XT > RAM > 7900 XTX > CPU > Pump > 1080mm Rad > pump Sadly thus far I havent been able to get the 9070 XT to output video. Its detected, no errors and drivers install but 0 output. The one oddity I could find is that doesnt run at PCIE 4.0 (set to 4 for testing) only cycling between 2.0 and 1.1 PCIE Gen link. I have removed my NVME to 10Gbps adapter occupying M.2_1 which should be CPU linked but no change. I was going to try moving the DIMM_2 adapter today but discovered ants in my bedroom so I've been doing a full cleaning today instead of more troubleshooting. CPU is sitting at 37c for idle and load temps were 57-59 for the 9950X3D2, load being BattleField 6. 7900 XTX temps increased to 35c load where it used to be closer to 25c when it was alone in the loop. If I can sort out the 2nd GPU slot and get video output from the 9070 XT ill be right as rain but for the moment I am pretty stoked

I am not using the chiller yet. (It needs thorough cleaning due to about 10 years of sediment build-up... don't want any more trash added to my loop. Working on that today). But, I've managed to get my ambient down to 66°F running my mini-split at 60°F. Broke 18K. With the chiller I will be in the top 25 (current #26). https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/6065553 | https://www.3dmark.com/sn/15796279 Chiller has been rinsed out and is sitting in the garage with the tank filled with white vinegar to bust up the rest of the white sediment build-up. Will have it back in service probably later today. Got to run to Walmart and grab a few more gallons of distilled water.

Nasty finger salute to the Green Goblin, with both hands. People that care just won't use their cancer drivers that block mVolt+ from working. I'm still using 576.28 and I generally won't play games that require that I install a specific driver or newer. It's a matter of principle for me, and that matters more than falling in line with their wishes. Same reason I won't play the crapified new games that require Secure Poot and TPM to be enabled for some garbage anti-cheat bloatware to work. They can kiss my post-defecation, smelly, unwashed posterior orifice.

I put up a video comparing ram air cooling via 4.5 different methods. Stock sticks = 76c. Asus 60mm fan = ~49c Noctua top shelf performance quiet 60mm fan on Asus bracket = ~49c Thermalright ram cooler = ~42c I've mastered the art of posting videos when I'm battling the flu or covid, lol. Sometimes I don't realize how under the weather I am till I watch something back and can hear it in my voice and a smidge of labored breathing. 🤣

They do have a point, though..... It is one reason I purposely used the MSI included 4 headed dongle of death originally with my Vanguard and my Suprim 4090 because if anything were to go wrong, it is on MSI. Worst case, the connector melts. Best case, just one of the tentacles (or more) melts down which is an easy replacement. Either way, the entire chain is on MSI. Now I use an actual MSI PSU AND a WV2Pro with two layers of warranty claim protection if my 5090 goes POOF! In this case, what caused it? The connector? The Asrock Cable/PSU? Both? Looking at the pictures, it appears to be an Asrock issue as it is burned on BOTH ends. Not that it doesn't suck, but I'm going to agree with PNY on this one and the owner now needs to go after Asrock and loop them in on the claim and see where things settle.

M5 Ultra vs a 9950X3D + 5090 kitted out PC: CPU: Bonkers, next level CPU performance. Absolutely trashes Intel and AMD at 150w with their 36 core model both single and multi. Single core: ~44% faster Multi core: ~80% faster All this while consuming 25% less power in a small, compact box that makes zero noise 99% of the time and even under load is a fraction of the noise a typical PC generates. You're going to need a Threadripper 9970x (32 core) to compete, but not beat, at this point on multi. To flat out beat Apple, you will need a 9980x. On both, they absolutely get destroyed for single core performance. On Single, Intel and AMD are going to have to bring some serious magic in their next gen CPUs or Apple will just continue to dominate and I don't think they're going to even get close to catch Apple in single threaded performance. Looking forward to the 52 core Intel Nova "Open all salvos!" Lake beast vs the M5 Ultra. Heck, even the 28 core might get close in multi. Blender Render = M5 Ultra is ~72% faster GPU: Time to come back to reality Apple vs Nvidia..... Optimized for Nvidia, 5090 pulls ahead showing Nvidia's strength in terms of raw power, vertical integration and software stacks. LLMs: If memory isn't an issue, 5090 is a beast but obviously 32GB can't stack up against 96GB or 256GB. Toss in an RTX 6000 (or two or three) and it's game over but then again you can score a fully kitted M5 Ultra with 96GB of memory and 1TB storage and max CPU/GPU config for $6799.99 for less than half the price of an RTX 6000. You can score a 256GB model for $10799 which is 2/3 the cost of a single RTX 6000 at this point. In the end, Apple's massively upgraded Neural Processors are no match for Nvidia's raw power but their unified memory architecture is where they have always shined. Expect the 512GB model (not available yet) to cost ~$17k as the 256GB model is currently $10,799.,99 and upgrading from 96GB to 256GB is a $4k up charge. So you end up with a 512GB M5 Ultra for what is quickly becoming the cost of a single RTX 6000. Video editing, M5 Ultra: DaVinci = tied Abobe Pro = M5 Ultra finished in less than half the time Gaming: Time for a brutal reality check. Even Metal optimized, 5090 just trashes the M5 Ultra and is over twice as fast. M5 Ultra looks to be right between 5070ti-5080 in gaming performance but looking at some of the results that are actually taking advantage of the 80 core GPU, there is some optimizations to be had but....yeah, the 5090 just drops the hammer on Apple....just like Nvidia dropped the hammer on AMD with the 5090. My final verdict? M5 CPU architecture is next level. Absolutely next level. GPU has really come along way even vs M4 and its strength lies in its unified memory bandwidth especially in these AI driven days. For my personal use, target LLMs for particular use cases the 5090's 32GB is working out just fine and this is where it absolutely shines. If you need more than 32GB, performance scarily drops off as expected and you need to start looking at the 5080 based 4500 card with 48GB or even 5500 (barf) up to a 6000 to match the 96GB config from Apple. 256GB config for $10,799 really makes a compelling config for many small AI shops, startups or individuals because it costs less than a single 6000 by almost $5k and you get over 2.5x the memory. I suspect the 512GB will also be a very compelling buy for those on a budget but needing 512GB of memory.

Yeah, the 5080 really has the headroom too fully appreciate overclocking at what tops out at an extreme but "sane"ish type level vs the 5090 requiring a nuclear reactor. Extrapolating, that Steel Nomad is like scoring ~ 21k+ on a 5090... That Timespy score is bonkers both GPU, CPU and combined... I see you right behind Jwick on the bot in the 2 slot a few times, lots of top 5/10 finishes and #1 in TSE! Excellent work!

Upon further investigation it looks like it wasnt the PSU (sorry EVGA) but the Furman surge protector. Im currently using a cheaper surge protector until I get something to replace it.

They did ship the memory. New ram kit will be here Monday! I did some research on the G.Skill 6000c26@1.400v and G.Skill 6000c26@1.450v kits. And read so much about both kits from the pro’s and extreme binning enthusiasts. So it’s literally just luck of the draw, but the 1.450v kit can be better than the 1.400v kit, and the 1.400v kit can be better than the 1.450v kit. But the 1.450v kits are not lesser than the 1.400v kits by default. But either kits are both equally binned and it’s completely luck of the draw with winning the memory silicon lottery with either kit. Some kits can do 6000c26@1.330vdd some need slightly more.

For whatever reason, I had not bothered to look at my Karhu speeds on my Z890 builds. I used to do it all of the time with my Ryzen stuff. I haven't even really tried pushing the memory overclock much, just plugging along with this pedestrian 8800 profile. Maybe I will find some downtime to play around with 9000 and higher soon.

I have not had much time to do anything with the Raider either. My wife's Ford Explorer needed a new water pump, and that meant all timing components had to come out (and many replaced due to mileage). Its finally back together but still needs the active grill shutter to be replaced as well so that is next weekends project. The Raider generally does fine with the previous tuning config which focuses on low VSOC. Sometimes I still get the 10 seconds of lag / stuttering but I am hoping that is just video driver issues. I did get a Video TDR failure bugcheck reboot the other day but unsure if it was driver or ambient heat related issue. It may need PTM redone anyways as I probably messed it up when I pulled the heatsink to swap the display. I technically need to pull the heatsink again anyways so I can properly slip the hinge covers under the palm rest which is only possible before screwing down the hinges. Not exactly the best design but still way easier than pulling the display apart to swap the panel itself. The "new" 2026 G16 SKU with the same specs is much higher price so I think you got a great deal there. It was an open box correct? Hopefully you can at least stability test it before Amazon's return period lapses. G-Helper should work fine best I can tell. Others with the 9955HX variant reported usage results on Github so I cannot imagine the HX3D variant being any different.

I have always held the opinion that Founders Edition GPUs are garbage, and the 50-series is their worst example to date. Tony reinforces it frequently in his videos. It seems like the engineers that design Founders Edition GPUs are always drunk or taking mind-altering drugs. Like my dad used to say "that piece of crap was designed by a drug Chinaman" LOL.

😬 It seems like the jump from 6400c28 to 6400c26 needs significantly more voltage, I am using 1.700v VDD currently. Anyone else try this profile before? What sort of voltages did you require? I do not know why, but for some reason I do like the 2167 chip #2 better, the memory controller is more fun to play with. I will enjoy it for another 1-2 days, and then I will pop Chip#1 back in for 2200fclk and more testing! And if I find myself where I cannot live without Chip#2, then we will go from there! lol. But 6400c26 is amazing to me. 1.700vdd is high, but keeping the 1.400vddq keeps temps realistic with a fan. (3) cycles on VT3 and sticks were 45c.

That’s pretty amazing temps for an SFF! Can you tell me what sort of settings you run here on this SFF PC? Do you run a manual OC with this?

CPU#2 might be the keeper for me. It’s only 2167fclk, but the memory controller easily stabilizes 6400c28 (Fully tuned timings) 1:1 with 1.480v vdd. I maybe can drop to even lower VDD voltage. I ran TM5 for several hours, ram temps were 51-52c and it still held up even with 65k tREFi. (I was using a fan on the memory) I’m going to test CPU#1 again, but I don’t think it’ll be able to do the same thing with 6400c28 1:1 so easily. Even though it has a 2200fclk. I will move to some 1:2 testing soon. It seems like either chip will post and run 8000c34, but I haven’t stability tested it. CPU#2 can run it easier. Which makes me lean towards it being the better choice. I haven’t tested any kind of core overlocking. I’m just not really any good at it, so I’ve stayed away from it lol. But I suppose it’s time to dig in. I’ve learned a lot about ram tuning on them though. Just not really sure what to do or start with on core clocks or CCD clocks and voltage etc, or load line etc. 6400 1:1 c28 performs STRONG. Just a little bit slower than 8000c34.

The leaders of the computer tech industry are bad people, with bad intentions, that have no honor and deserve no respect from any of us. The only thing any of them deserve is misfortune and tragedy, and I hope that both are visited upon them corporately and personally.

I am fully expecting you to snag one ASAP! 🤣 I did the exact opposite and we downsized from a monster sized house with a huge basement to a double wide since it is only the two of us now and the one thing I miss the most is the massive basement which was all mine and where I had multiple tables set up everywhere with room to spare. I had an "E" configuration with five 8' tables and closet space galore with a Vax 11/780 in the other corner I had picked up from the University of Penn they were tossing out back in the day. True fact, when we sold the house we left it in the basement because that thing was monstrous in size! It is the only reason I would entertain buying a small house with a same sized basement included is to set up my man cave again.

@Reciever and @tps3443 if you don't already have it, download this modded version of ZenTimings. It was previously shared by @safedisk on HWBOT and OC.net and it has a few features the normal releases do not have, including memory temperature and power, WHEA error counter and CPU die temperature. The sensors for VDDIO typically do not work unless the BIOS is set to Auto for VDDIO, but this modded version may fix that as well. (It fixes it on my B850MPOWER.) This app functions portably. No installation nececessary other than the prompt to install PawnIO on first launch. (PawnIO must be installed or ZenTimings will not work. PawnIO is a replacement for WinRing0.) @tps3443 also check your Nitro settings to confirm the BIOS is automatically assigning them as 1/3/1 and manually correct if not (shown in ZenTimings). Make sure your Bank Refresh Mode is "Normal" (not "Mixed") and manually set it if not. This will make it so only tRFC is used. tRFC2 and tRFCsb/pb are not used in Normal mode. You can set them to "1" in Normal Bank Refresh mode, or not set them at all, and it doesn't matter since their values are ignored. In Mixed mode latency is higher and those values do matter. ZenTimings-v1.42.6.zip

So glad everything is working out this time around! Last time, you had three points of failure to try and diagnose (MB, Mem, CPU), and returning it all was the right call and paid dividends nicely. 6600 is super golden as is 8800 like on Sugi's setup which is bonkers. Makes ya wonder about the second one you have at this point..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ This 9850X3D can do 6600 but fails during TM5. 2233 flat out won't boot but 2200 on stock is just fine. Temps are the problem as they were fine the first few days (~74c under CB23 looping load) and now are hitting 95+ from the jump so I will need to pop the Thermal Grizzly Heatspreader and check the liquid metal application. I needed to install some nylon washers on the backplate anyhow to help with the ~2mm z-height differential anyhow for more AIO options as the eK cr240 Nucleus was the only model that allows a deeper hand torque to somewhat compensate but once offset temps will plummet even moreso. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Still fighting the urge to install my 270k in my main rig and eat my own chow till Nova or Zen 6 since even on this Dark Hero with a 9850X3D, it is still more of the same just a bit better..... 🤣 I know if installed as my main, it will get real time tuning and TLC....

call me intrigued! hows it looking with a setup where two computers are connected to one monitor? does is support that, as well? (call me ignorant in this regard, no idea about KVMs)

Yes the DIMM_2 going through chipset shouldnt affect anything since its chipset. Was more of a hail mary at this point lol I did use it with the standard heatsink (Pulse) and it was fine there on the AM4 Dark Hero X570 albeit overclocking on it was not feasible on Afterburner. I may take off the PCI bracket altogether and see if that changes how well it behaves in relation to sitting in the pcie lane proper. The motherboard heatsink is a bit elevated compared to what I am used to and the bracket is aftermarket (alphacool). When Gaming the SPDIF connector screams white noise on occasion, I have USB C to SPDIF adapter to get around that. The surreal part of all this is running this setup and the cpu block is cold to the touch. 255w at load, 65c reported for the day. RAM last I checked was 20c at idle and 25c at load

That makes sense and good to know they should work on the MSI and Gogabyte boards. The KingBank sticks being problematic on your former X870E Apex adds a nice bit of validation to the problem since we ordered them within a week or two of each other from da zon.... That also means that even with a BIOS update the HP 35L most likely would work with them as HP uses their own custom boards and cancerware. My problem is/was having 2x Asrock boards and 2x Asus boards. Asrock having problems with their sticks from the jump and Asus developing issues after this latest Agesa update (could be more even on the slightly older BIOS, but I didn't FAFO enough to see)....yet Corsair, Teamgroup and Kingston (HP) Rage sticks keep on truckin'..... I could get one stick of the KingBank to kinda, sorta sporadically post on the Dark Hero but then it would immediately freeze at the Asus logo screen. On the other hand, KingBank absolutely flawless on Intel and an absolute joy to use. Was able to get my 14900KS to post 8800 and the 270k pass TM5 up to 8933 in G4.... -------------------------------------------------------- Nice to see you in the 18k club! More importantly not needing the external hardware but software (as it should be) to use your GPU properly. If it turns out Nvidia is purposely going out of their way to neuter mVolt+, we'll be stuck with older drivers going forward just to be able to use our GPUs as we want.

The Kingbank 8400 kit works fine on the B850MPOWER and worked fine on X870E AORUS Master, but not well with the X870E Apex. Safedisk commented several times that the SPD is not per JEDEC specs and does not play nice with AMD. I also have a older (early DDR5) G.SKILL Intel XMP 8000 kit that has severe issues on an AMD platform. Doesn't even post with the memory default SPD profile about half the time. The AGESA wigs out trying to train it for some reason.

That was a very challenging design that I had underestimated at first! The flexible PCB has impedances that are difficult to calculate—which is almost impossible. I'll make the external flexible PCB right after this and then have some produced!!!!

So the AM5 and KingBank issues persist but I'm pretty sure I've narrowed down what is going on even further. I tried to pop them in the Dark Hero for heatsink / air cooling testing only to be met almost immediately with an "A6" error code and a bright yellow dram error light. AIO fans kept revving up and down in the oddest pattern. I know they work in my x870e Hero since I just posted and booted with them last month right? So I popped them in there and exact "A6" error code and bright yellow dram error light along with AIO fans revving up and down. I drag out the Microcenter combo deal Asrock B850 board and of course they don't post in there as expected but why not throw another data point on the pile..... They did post in the HP Omen 35L w/ 8400f but that drive is wiped atm so no further testing..... As a final checksum, I pop them into the 270k build and of course they not only boot right up but blew through TM5 looking at me like I'm the nut job in this scenario 🤣 I KNOW these sticks posted and booted in my x870e Hero last month, but in the interim I had updated my BIOS as I was running 2103 from March. Updating to 2402 updated Agesa from 1.3.0.0a to 1.3.0.1b. The HP is actually running a BIOS from earlier this year. The Dark Hero I updated upon initial install as it was running 0502 to the newest so it too is running 1.3.0.1b. I'm thinking if/when HP updates to a newer BIOS supporting 1.3.0.1b those sticks might stop working in that system too. On a whim, I rolled back the Asrock BIOS from 4.43 to 4.10 which supports 1.3.0.0a and the sticks still gave me a big middle finger but with the reported incompatibilities with these sticks on Asrock boards, I wasn't expecting them to work. Last gasp I popped in my TG sticks and set a loose 6000, 8000 and JEDEC profile and saved all three and sat there loading in each profile on the TG sticks then trying to get the KingBank sticks to boot using those known, working profiles but nope right to "A6" DRAM error light on both boards..... Can't roll back on the Asus boards but at this point I wouldn't anyhow. I'm just done with these KingBank sticks on AM5. I'll stick with the Vengeance 9200 and TG 8200 sticks which continue to work like butter no matter what. I picked them up June 2025 and outside of some quick testing on the x870e Hero at the time, they were primarily used in benching and testing my SP109 14900KS before I sold off the Z790i lightning and moved the 14900KS into the wife's system. It is only recently they're getting attention as they were slated for my SFF build. I know in my 270k they could post up to 8933 (maybe squeeze more out of them better cooled) so I'm just going to tune them up there around 8400-8600 and keep it moving or look to trade them for a set of 6000-6400 CL26 sticks or similar. Fun times!

https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/cinebench_-_r20/submissions/6064868

Nice video, brother. I know the guy you mentioned near the end of the video, LOL.