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I converted a Clevo RTX 3060 to be a 3080Ti: I can't post links because 3dmark blocks viewing scores from unrecognized hardware combinations: The score is a little bit disappointing. A shunt modded 3080 can beat this (just barely though). I did a 50% shuntmod, but this is giving me OCP throttling and I need to lock the core to 0.84V to avoid it, which is only around 180W. Doing a weaker 10% shuntmod should yield a better result to avoid needing to lock the core voltage. I'm also having vRAM overclocking issues. The vRAM can only run up to 16.3GHz before the system hard freezes like an NES. With the same vRAM chips the 3060 core could run 17.7GHz. This requires further investigation. I currently have the card set to be 8GB. I can run more benchmarks if there is something someone is curious in seeing.

Got a text to get to MC. I grabbed the very last one.

FedEx showed up, but no 5090’s on the truck. Looked like an unmarked delivery van. Dang…Not looking good. EDIT: FedEx truck came back!!!

I think now is the time to show off this RTX 3080. Who would have thought that this 12 year old M18xR2 would stretch its wings so far. I may try RTX 4090 in the future but its pricey. CPU score will be low because it's an old 4-core. I didn't bother going over 4.5Ghz since the 3080 is a 115w TDP model so won't help it much. I think @Mr. Fox @Papusan @Raidriarwould get a kick out of this. Perfect example of how MXM would have continued fine. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2

Hey Bros. Tomorrow morning I have my first brachytherapy procedure, with the second scheduled for 2/27. So, having me in your thoughts and prayers would be cherished.

Hey fellas, this is a less ideal post that will go down in my catalog, but i think it ought to be discussed. Some touchier topics will be discussed, so if you would rather not peer into my personal life, I completely get it. I will edit this with a spoiler here at some point, but I cannot figure out how to add one on mobile. My appologies. Last night, on Febuary 6th, 2025, I was leaving a laboratory at my university. There's a sketchy road I must always cross by foot to get to my apartment, and while I thought I could make it, the impatience of man taught me a valuable lesson at a terrible time; Man does NOT win against automobile. The speed limit was 35mph on that road, and the driver did not see me. Luckily, he had an old, intelligently engineered car (a late 90s - early 2000s Chevrolet Cavalier I believe), so I ended up rolling over and on top of the car. I was blessed with some wonderful bystanders, and with the remorse of the driver. I was carried away on an ambulance and to a hospital that is essentially on the campus of my university. I remember it all clearly, and I've been given every drug known to man it seems. The medical staff here and every gear in this machine has done phenomenal work, and I appreciate every person who has helped me along the way. Luckily, my head and spine are fine, and the only thing that needs repairs is my right leg, where my tibia shattered into multiple pieces. I'm only 18, and I will have to live with a titanium rod in my right leg for the rest of my life... I'm not inherently a funny individual as I tend to be serious and practical, but during this whole situation, I have tried my absolute hardest to keep my family and friends from stressing all too much. There were times last night and today where I had managed to knock all of the air out of someone's stomach, and successfully bringing light to such a dark situation. It's a really strange time, and my outlook hasn't changed much. I must keep rolling with the punches and focus on the good instead of the bad. I type this from a hospital bed, expecting a somewhat speedy, but life changing recovery. I don't write this out for any of you to pity me. As a matter of fact, the best thing you all can do is read this as a lesson, and NOT worry about me. I know I'll be fine, so you all spend your energy doing what you guys do best, I hate to be an obstacle in everyone's seemingly jam-packed lives. However, I want this to be a message to you all to keep pushing to be the best person you can. This might sound a bit grim and edgy, but that is not my intent. I also realize it may sound like I am struggling with life, but I want you all to know that, even in my worst times, I have never had a desire to give up. I'm still learning and growing, but right now, I am a man who fears death in its entirety, and want nothing to do with it. As bad as things seem to get, there is always a future, and while it may be impossible to see the light at the end of the tunnel, light will always welcome you. It's up to you to have faith in the light, even though you may never see it. Take care of yourselves fellas and keep working to do your magic! Without you all, my life would be so different that I couldn't even fathom explaining it. You guys have enlightened me to some of my greatest passions, and I cannot thank you all enough! I'm usually one to stay anonymous, but I think now is an appropriate time to quit. I might still be naive, who knows, but you guys are either good people, or really good at convincing me the you're not ill-intented. I guess I'll never know!

I'd like to officially welcome @Mr. Fox and @Talon to not only Team Red, but also more important the even rarer Team Purple for those of us who own, test, compare and enjoy both AMD and Intel at the same time. We meet every Wednesday at the local Dennys. 🤣 (You also have a bit more insight as to why my RGB color scheme is routinely purple FYI)

Same... beast mode in red and blue now, at least for the time being. Will see where Intel takes us. https://hwbot.org/submission/5686765_ Well... enough of the AIO. I installed the Heatkiller IV Pro block with some cooling line extensions (temporary) on QD3 fittings to connect to the same cooling system as the Apex. That way I do not need the entire system dedicated to one machine. Will do something more permanent later. This is still for testing. I must have overtightened the block because this was intially unstable until I backed off all four thumb nuts about 1 turn each. I also pulled the stock heating blankets off the RAM and dropped the memory temps about 10°C with them naked. My memory jackets for water cooling the RAM are on order, but are coming from China and make take a week or two. I already had the Bykski 4-DIMM block for the top from my DDR4 days.

The stock voltage is 1.15v and the stock power is 600w. The XOC vBIOS is publicly available on tech power up and is 2001w, which further unlocks voltage and memory another +1000 over other 5090s. Some nice individual over at OC.net PM'd me the extra special HOF tool for even further voltage, LLC, and switching period control. Basically the same as the old KingPin tools. Ordered the HOF 5090D IceMan waterblock on AliExpress. Figured the card is pretty rare and any future owner will def. want the ability to put it under water to take advantage of the voltage and power limits.

Just scored a 980Ti for 50 bucks on ebay. Not really anything to write home about, except that it appears the owner was not aware that it came equipped with the morpheus 2 aftermarket heatsink which can't be sourced for anything less than 250-500. Obviously not going to spend that much on just a heatsink so I'm quite happy with the purchase. It's going to be a busy winter this year :)

I do! I'll snag a picture when I get home :)

What's up everyone! I am sorry I have been away for awhile. I am trying my hand at YT and hopefully build a large enough following to get sponsored by a CNC maker or continue to build my reserve to buy one. I haven't had the urge to upgrade any of my PC's to the latest and greatest (although I am thinking about the 9950X3D). I came across some local listings on a 5090, that weren't exactly deals (used, still above MSRP). The days of great used hardware prices are dead - people want 80 to 110% of their purchase price, and with new cards closing in on their MSRP's, I don't know who is buying used at these prices. I think that if Intel releases the B770 and it's under $400, I'll pounce on that card. I only need something good enough for video editing and CAD. I hope you and your families are doing well. I'm back here fully, doing my normal lurking.

5090FE is fine man. If I didn't like it, I would not keep it that's for sure lol! I had a 4090 Gaming OC and @johnksss that thing was cheap as hell, flimsy, light weight, and loud as hell with bad coil whine, but not this card, this card feels nice and premium and heavy etc. So, it's okay for $1,999.99 (People do try to convince me that my own GPU sucks though, they do not like it, that I like it I guess 🤣) Last I checked, Astral+Block = $4,000, too much for me to afford. But at least they perform TOP NOTCH once you water block it, flash it, and solder it.. Yes, the FE's have weak coolers; I cannot hold that against it. It's going on water/shunt anyways. I mean, your Astral is probably faster than an RTX Pro 6000, but that doesn't mean it's better than one. FE's have weak coolers but not weak cores. Definitely an acceptable GPU for the price tag and performance. Card scores perfectly acceptable for a stock cooler, hot, non-shunted 5090 FE. Plenty of other 5090's that cannot hit these numbers out there, and this is the hottest one you can buy. 🥵 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME

I don't have WoW, but here's this. CP2077 4K w/ RT and PT SOTR 4K w/ Highest Graphics settings Looks like I need to do something about the memory temperatures. The memory chips must need thicker pads. The core max is 61°C but the memory junction is 90°C. But, it runs 3350+ on core with no issues. (I have not tried higher than that.)

That’s fantastic. Nice graphics cards!!! Since I gave away my sons 3060, we juiced his system up with a RTX 3090 Founders Edition! It blows his hair back now in 1440P now lol. He is 12, and this is his first “Real Man’s” graphic card. 😂 Sons Rig: 12900KS/Z790 LGA1700/ DDR5 6400c32/ RTX 3090 FE/ EVGA 1300P+

Opened the box. The 4 small foams in each corners saved the inner box. And as you should know... Asus offer cheapo glossy thin cardboard boxes. There is no class with Asus. They go cheap where they can. Even for their flagship products. The box that come with the HOF is 100 times better. It's just a box... But I'm an collector and prefer to take good care of all my products and in an nice box. Cheap or expensive doesn't matter. A good quality box should be minimum to ask for when you pay this amount money for flagship cards... And for the records... I would be equal happy with a 10 years card. But what I don't like... Pay xx80 prices for xx60 tier cards. Hence you'll never see me buy brand new cards from mid tier class. The 5090 Astral looks like a small xx70 class card vs the monstrous creature 4090 HOF. Hmmm. Nope. It increased the value. Crocs ain't cheap here home😁 And it's time jou buy a pair. And in black😎 What reduce the value of an Asus Astral 5090.... Huang's autograph on the card. Hmmm. Loads of 5070's in the retail here. Every single of them is massively overpriced. The so called market don't work. Gigabyte 5070 at $871.65 without tax. Or better say close to 59% above the MSRP. It seems https://www.proshop.no/Grafikkort/GIGABYTE-GeForce-RTX-5070-AORUS-Master-12GB-GDDR7-RAM-Grafikkort/3331090 Nvidia need to ship 10 times as many cards if the prices shall come back to more normal levels... And not only 5070's. Is this Nvidia's answer on AMD's coming xx60 class cards? And will gamers buy 8GB xx60 cards in 2025? The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti and RTX 5060 have reportedly been delayed until mid-April and May.

Grabbed the ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral LC OC - $2,966.35 USD today. 1 out of 3 card was available for the whole scandinavian market (4 countries). Next delivery of 5090 cards from the retail shops... Unknown. Loads of 5070's is ofloaded today here home. And a few 5070Ti and 5080. I see there is still 3 out of 10 pc of Asus 5080 Astral OC available for purchase here home now 6.5 hour after the slip. $1660 USD. I think Asus have reached the limits what they can sell their 5080 flagship for right now. I doub't they increase the prices in the pace they have done. And no other brands 5080 is listed yet you can buy Asus 5080 cards. That speak loudly about the price point Asus want. As a side note... Gigabyte want $1730 for their best 5080. Not sure what's up with Gigabyte this gen cards. The cards should be delivered to Papusan's plaza within the next 5-7 days. And exactly the card I tried to buy.

I GOT IT!!!! RTX 5090FE on the way! Man, the support of this community and trust of this forum and also overclock.net is pure astounding. I was able to get the funds together and secure my order for a 5090FE at $1,999. Paying more than $1,999 is too much for me. This is very reasonable. Looking back now, I originally had a budget of $2,800 range. Anyways, I think Nvidia saw how much I was hating on them, and they sent the email to see if I’d still bend over for them 😂 (I did of course)

Now without pigtailed connectors lol. Grabbed the corsair type 4 premium single end cables.

My $600 equivalent (when you account for VAT) 9070 XT arrived EDIT: PCI-E Gen 5 on a riser no issue. Stock https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/127667606 100mv undervolt stock clocks https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/127668715

I managed to get a close to MSRP 9070xt reaper from powercolor that fits in my case. It will arrive tomorrow 😊

I received my 4090 laptop in the mail today. This was purchased with funds intended for an RTX 5090. However, since the RTX 5090 does not actually exist, (I’m not really near any local stores to really buy one) so I just gave up with trying to buy one online, and moved on with life. With my job, I’m finding my self having to stay at my desk 7a-7p. It’s paying well. But getting promoted to an operations manager requires me to play at a level of pure beast mode/be the best mode/no excuses allowed. 😂 So, I really needed a laptop for constant monitoring and check-in’s etc. First impressions: incredible panel! 😱 .. It’s just like OLED, maybe even better sometimes since it’s 1,000 nits bright and all.. No back light bleeding anywhere, I don’t even see any glowing at all. It’s 250Hz/ 16:10 aspect ratio, and 2560x1600/ Mini LED. So it’s really beautiful! You can run the brightness on 5% and it looks perfectly normal brightness like a regular monitor lol. CPU: 14900HX, feels very fast just using the machine. With fans silent it’s idling about 55-60c while downloading a game on Steam. With fans at 100% it’s not too bad. It’s LOUD! But the pitch and tone of the noise doesn’t make it annoying at all. It’s just noisy. But not annoying. GPU: Haven’t really gotten an opportunity to really use it just yet. But I’m expecting good things. It’s a 175w 4090 Mobile. Performance: So, I’m not expecting 4090 desktop power here obviously. But, it has DLSS3, and Frame Gen, and it’s 2560x1600! If my old 3090 Kingpin had frame Gen, I’d have never sold it! These are amazing features to have. Since Nvidia and AIB’s a like just recently killed the affordable gaming market for average people like me all together, buying a 4090 laptop seemed like the only way to go. Since even a RTX 5090 laptop MSI Raider will set you back an eye watering $5,000+ after taxes. Value: It’s a $2,000 dollar laptop. So, I think it’s going to offer a great value for what you get. A whole computer capable of decent gaming performance that is portable. Overall: This is a BIG laptop being 18 inches. I’ve never owned an 18” laptop before. The screen doesn’t feel like I’m squinting or leaning forward to find things like my last 15” laptop. And the 16:10 offers a little more desktop space to get things done. I really like the machine.

Always measure results, not marketing information. I am interested if the consistency (viscosity) is better and anticipate the cooling will be what it always is for liquid metal. Darn it, you caught me. I need to update the logo.

I have not seen this liquid metal before. Looks very interesting--especially the higher viscosity part--so I ordered some to try the next time I need to take something apart. It seems like over the years that liquid metal formulas have changed and have a lower viscosity than they used to, and I think that makes it more likely to drip or run. (The original Liquid Ultra was much thicker than Conductonaut, then they changed it and made it extra watery.) It looks like they use more indium and silver in their formula. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CJ9QGDFV They have some other products on their web site.

Didn't come out as nice as I had envisioned (hard tubing was hard to bend LOL) but still was a fun build: Just a test at 4.6Ghz:

The latency killer feature MSI added to the UEFI seems worthless to me. It seems to only offer value if a person is using an XMP/EXPO profile, which seldom ever produces impressive memory performance. This EXPO Trident Neo definitely works better (for some reason) than the equivalent XMP kit. Maybe the IC bin quality is better, or maybe the SPD firmware is different or AMD-specific JEDEC. But, I am not using the EXPO profile, only manual settings. This would be so much easier and better with a 2-DIMM motherboard. It's so sad the only great option for that on AMD is getting screwed over paying new retail price for a used X670 Gene motherboard that might have something wrong with it. I finally received the RAM jackets from China, so I will be pulling off the trash stock G.SKILL heatsinks heating blankets and getting this RAM under water like my Intel systems. The memory temperatures with the trash G.SKILL covers are just so lousy (actually cooler even naked, but ugly to look at). I received the parts ordered from Thermal Grizzly, so maybe tonight or tomorrow I will decapitate the 9950X, test the TG heatspreader, then remove that and install the Mycro. I ordered a heatspreader to compare the thermal difference between that and bare die. Just for curiosity, in case I am ever asked I will know the answer.

(While visions of 5090's and Taichi x870e equipped 9950X3Ds float through my head)

Ah what a roller-coaster it's been. Bought Z790 + 14900K to replace 10980XE + X299 Returned 14900K and bought 12700K as stop-gap for Z890. Bought Core Ultra 9 285K on release with no MB. Returned the Core Ultra 9 285K, sold Z790+12700K system. Bought Xeon W7-3465X + W790 ASUS SAGE MB and the money has been draininngggggggggg But so happy I'm back in HEDT land...lol Just a teaser, I'm probably gonna need liquid cooling instead of my Noctua cooler. This is exactly what I am experiencing. Especially with the Optane P5800X drive. Everything feels so smooth.

Does this mean I am on a special team, RGB (AMD, Nvidia and Intel for CPUs/GPUs)? 🤣😂 EDIT: With @Mr. Fox and @Talon currently visiting team Red, my question is when will @Papusan take the plunge? These are some strange times, next thing I know @ryan would be joining the desktop crew as well.

It seems the Team at UserBenchmark once again try help Pat an Intel with the sales😆 UserBenchmark suggests you buy the i5-13600K over the Ryzen 7 9800X3D — says AMD drives sales with 'aggressive marketing' rather than 'real-world performance'

what goes through my head when i read Zen6 in late 2026/27: AM5 promise by AMD goes until "2027+", so best to push Zen6 right up until that point to avoid having to include ANOTHER gen on AM5 😛 keeping their promise but doing everything they can to offer less by it....

Have to fully agree on power draw. Been testing this 9800X3D with PBO +200 and -15 C0 and in BF2042 and 1080p low for max fps, it's pulling 135-140w package with temps hitting 75-85c. That is a heater compared to my 24 core 285K chip that pulls the same power, nearly exact same power, and runs around 50-60c. The memes about Intel temps in this care are completely fabricated as I expected. Power does not equal core temps, it equals room temps. But unfortunately these tech dummies push this narrative that your chip is melting and will fry itself. The only chip near melting is my new 9800X3D lol. I'll have to see what I can do to improve the temps. On a side note, apparently there is now confirmation were getting Zen 6 on AM5 in late 2026 or early 2027. So that is awesome. I'm wondering if we won't get a Zen 5 refresh before that, that would be wild. Maybe improve the IMC. So far, I am glad I built the AM5 rig, I like the ability to test both brands and the chip is an absolute monster for punching out FPS in many games. Now I'm wondering do I swap it into my main rig? The idea of 8 cores as a daily driver makes me want repulsed lol. 2018 called, they want their 9900K back.

I know a lot of people think brother @Papusan and @Mr. Fox are bat-poop crazy for hating on Winduhz 11 so hard, especially newer versions, (also including the newer Windoze 10 cancer,) but we actually do our homework. If performance was better we would actually be using it as our preferred OS. The ugly part is subjective and fixable. Try as we may, people are still going to think we are nuts and form their own misinformed opinions and continue to believe the lies that it works better. Well, bless their hearts. The only way to know is to test. All of my systems boot multiple operating systems and it immediately becomes as plain as the nose on your face which one sucks when you can reboot and run the same tests back-to-back among OS versions and watch the newer ones reveal their suckiness. It leaves no wiggle room for speculation on which one deserves the most hate. CPU and memory performance have declined and degraded with newer OS versions. Graphics performance sometimes improves and sometimes regresses. That part is inconsistent. The Redmond Retards add silly gimmick features to entice gamers into running their crappy cancer OS and pray nobody notices what a steaming deep dish colon loaf it is. And, guess what? Most of the gamerboys don't notice. No, my surprised look is not on my face. Us old farts know what we're talking about most of the time. Windows 11 is a pile of crap. Even Jufus the potty mouth has documented that the claims that newer versions of Winduhz run better is a load of crap. Even as recently as the 9900/9950X release he debunked the excuses that AMD fanboys were making that Windoze 11 needed an update for the new CPU to work right. I generally view the opinion that newer OSes work better as a sign of inexperience and ignorance. Some smart people believe that and it is probably because they make assumptions rather than exercising due dilligence and testing, or they are not doing the right tests. Even if the latest cancer OS performed exactly the same as every version before it, who wants to own a zombie computer and have the Redmond Reprobates stealing data and making all of the decisions about what happens with the OS? Hard to believe there are many otherwise intelligent people that drink that Kool-Aid. Letting Micro$oft decide what happens is essentially a plan for failure if you like the idea of having a system perform at its best. Believing the next update or version release of Winduhz will improve performance is utterly insane, and contrary to historical evidence that suggests the complete opposite should be expected. It will be interesting to play with the 9950X and discover what my opinion will be in the end. Parts arrived yesterday so I will install them today or tomorrow. I'm not sold on 3D v-cache being all that, but probably because I am not a gamer and don't value that as much as gamers do. It is good that 9800X3D is not as terrible at productivity as its predecessor. The idea of buying an 8-core CPU doesn't really do anything for me other than invoking a feeling of disgust. That seems very lame to me by current standards, kind of like saying 8GB of RAM is enough. It might work, but it's barely adequate for much more than email and web surfing. For the same reason, I was offended that the Core Ultra 9 flagship was downgraded to 24 threads from its predecessor's 32-thread i9 flagship and I didn't like the 285K before it released for that reason alone. I was surprised that it didn't perform worse than it does, but losing 8 threads and having lower boost clocks with less P-core overclock headroom is a downgrade to me no matter what angle I choose to look at it. It would be hard for me to find something to be happy about because of both of those things. I never like the concept of doing more with less. That always rubs me the wrong way no matter where the concept is applied. Looks like I lucked out on the 9950X purchase. It is now sold out at NewEgg and I purchased it for $110 less than launch price. Maybe Core Ultra 9 adopters will get lucky with a similar price drop in a couple of months.

@Mr. Fox Not sure if you know this but..... The Best Computer Store in Phoenix, AZ The Wait Is Almost Over – Micro Center Grand Opening Coming in 2025! Micro Center is coming to Phoenix with over 25,000 items in stock and the industry’s best customer service. Phoenix, get ready to experience Tech Heaven for yourself—stay tuned for opening details! https://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/phoenix.aspx You might be able to rent that 5090 yet!!

Hi everyone, el_gohan from France. I’m here to get help and give back to th restoration of my 2 Alienware m17x r4.

keep us posted on the SP ratings for both your 9950X cpus, im highly interested. i was literally SHOCKED when i saw the load temps on my stock lidded 9950X3D with CB2024 and CB R23... 200W package load maxed out at a measly 76C, with average temps even lower. at first i thought i mightve messed something up with the fan settings in bios after upgrading, but nope...it is just THAT much colder, absolutely insane. my 7950X easily broke 90C, sometimes creeping up to 94-95C depending on the ambient temps. delidding and swapping out the IHS should result in craaaaazy OC headroom, both for CPU and RAM 🙂

A 7 pound, 15 ounce baby monster will be headed your way tamale. Now I just need to sell the monitor. Those are hard to sell. Lots of people prefer to buy $100 trash displays from Target, Walmart and Amazon just because it is new and don't want to pay the same amount for something about 5 times better, LOL.

While Reddit is infinitely larger than our humble platform, what I can say is our moderation here is much more fair. PM sent!

Hi just need to wrap in his 5090 FE😀 No need to change out that tiny 12V-2x6 power cable. Or just send over the card to @Maxware79 for some color change.

Walked in about 4:15 pm and happened to grab this while getting stuff for my customers. Edit: Well this card definitely has some overclocking room. I will stay that much. https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=sw P&cpuId=&gpuId=1696&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

consider yourselves lucky that u even HAVE SEEN any 5090 in stock or actually know about upcoming drops. ive had neither so far 😛 however, im having some funsies with scalpers on ebay. one of them actually dared to offer me a 5% price drop on his 5090 Suprim card, going from 5500€ initial to 5200€. i GRACIOUSLY declined his offer with the following message: F*** OFF DIRTY SCALPER! 😄

The reason why Newegg has all of these 3090's and 4090's is because they are heavily pushing the Newegg Trade-in program. Offering people $1,350 dollars for any working RTX4090 is not a bad deal. Newegg then turns around and sells these as "Refurbished" for $1,599-$1,799 range depending on the model. This is a way to feel the void for those that never had a 4090, and after nearly 3 years they can own one for MSRP! 🤣 It really feels like the 5090 was not ready at all to launch. Nvidia should have just waited until March. I do not know why they are so desperate to release a product that is not even real. I thought it was funny that they posted on Reddit asking gamers "How their DLSS4 gaming experience was?" when no one actually had a GPU 🤣 AMD waited on the 9070XT, and I think I can see why now. Maybe they are making a ton of them so everyone can buy one.

Was never, ever going to buy one anyhow cause TEAM RED!! 🤣 @Raiderman Holding out: @Mr. Fox @Papusan Going with the flow: @electrosoft Definitely buying: @johnksss @jaybee83 @tps3443 @Talon Did I miss anyone? 🤣

MrFox`s y-cruncher - Pi-1b score: 10 sec 909 ms with a Ryzen 9 9950X https://hwbot.org/submission/5739152 BIOS Settings in spoiler... https://imgur.com/a/9ydiFYa

Got a few parts in today for the Sapphire Rapids build. Still waiting on the W7-2495X. It may arrive this week if the ebay seller decided to use USPS instead of UPS. Otherwise it was a holiday weekend so if its delayed that is fine. For now I will try to fit the build into my Antec P7 Neo. It isn't exactly a great case but was one of the few that did not have a window and also had a built in 5.25 drive bay. The same company here in Colorado that sells Clevo laptops with open firmware also has a line of custom desktop cases they manufacture in Denver. They have a model that can fit EATX called Nebula49 which should fit the board other than maybe needing to remove a fan header and not use the custom CPU heatsink duct if it interferes with the Noctua U14S.

The 9800X3D seems like a really good candidate for Intel's Cryo Cooling watercoolers. Fortunately it's now possible to run those waterblocks and AIOs using modified Intel Cryo Cooling software that doesn't have the stupid artificial CPU restriction check from here: https://github.com/juvgrfunex/cryo-cooler-controller

That's like with cars saying you changed the oil and other accessories in half the time the manual states and are fine, that's still the failure of the manufacturer to give proper dates for service. It's a failure of the product, some of which were running in server environments with power limits and could still kill themselves. It's just not good enough IMO, same with the AMD side of things. Then to lie, take ages to admit something was going on and rejecting warranties is so scummy.

Thank you. I've having to relearn everything that is for sure. I think I am getting way better results using fixed all core and manual voltage than PBO, which is actually exactly the same for me on Intel. eTVB and opportunistic core boost truly sucks. Here's my best so far... This is with the EK CR360 AIO. I am going to have to get the Heatkiller block on it until I buy a der8auer delid tool and Mycro bare die block. Brother @cylix it is the G.SKILL 8000 sticks that my Ryzen setup does not like. I put in the TeamGroup Xtreme 48GB kit and it boots and runs 8200 like a champ. Interesting. There must be something in the G.SKILL 8000 SPD default settings that causes it to fail to POST on Ryzen. What makes it ever more odd is the G.SKILL sticks run identical to the TeamGroup Xtreme in the Apex Encore. No differences in performance, settings or voltage. I just put the G.SKILL memory on the Apex Encore and *BOOM* there it is! The G.SKILL 8000 kits (both of them) have always worked fantastic. I only bought the TGX because it has no RGB and they're covered up with waterblocks so RGB may as well not exist.

Maybe Brother @chew can give us some pointers. My latency is lower than that but still very high. This seems a whole lot more convoluted that what I am used to. I think all the sliders and knobs have to be just right or it behaves badly, LOL. I getting closer to finding out where the sliders and knobs belong. Little by little. I think I am going to test my TeamGroup Xtreme 8200 48GB kit on this. No idea why the motherboard will not even try to boot with the G.SKILL 8000 48GB kit. It doesn't even try to boot. Just stops abruptly after about 1 second with Q-code 15 and CPU and RAM LEDs on.