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Got a text to get to MC. I grabbed the very last one.

FedEx showed up, but no 5090’s on the truck. Looked like an unmarked delivery van. Dang…Not looking good. EDIT: FedEx truck came back!!!

I think now is the time to show off this RTX 3080. Who would have thought that this 12 year old M18xR2 would stretch its wings so far. I may try RTX 4090 in the future but its pricey. CPU score will be low because it's an old 4-core. I didn't bother going over 4.5Ghz since the 3080 is a 115w TDP model so won't help it much. I think @Mr. Fox @Papusan @Raidriarwould get a kick out of this. Perfect example of how MXM would have continued fine. NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 (notebook) video card benchmark result - Intel Core i7-3920XM Processor Extreme Edition,Alienware M18xR2

Hey Bros. Tomorrow morning I have my first brachytherapy procedure, with the second scheduled for 2/27. So, having me in your thoughts and prayers would be cherished.

Hey everyone! Still rocking the same system. My 5090 has been strong! Hard to think its already been 8 months since I got it. 6 months of that has been shunted for 1200w. It has been getting rung out hard though. I essentially lost interest in talking about this hobby and just been using it for work/gaming daily. 😆Something has pulled me back in to talking about the hobby though. I suppose I needed a break from the daily PC discussion lol. On another note, tonight I flashed my Acer Predator 4090 18" laptop to some random unverified Asus 4090 Laptop bios from techpowerup, and this thing picked up tons more performance. I am able to pull 175w steady in games, I could never do that before, usually 150-160w before. So, I checked my bios, and apparently my bios was the 1215Mhz clock/ 1590 Boost. And the bios I flashed to now is a 1590 clock/ 2040 boost. My GPUz said mine was a 175W bios, so thats why I never tried this before. So, I flashed out of curiosity. And it's just blowing the doors off of the prior bios that was on this Acer Predator. I am not really sure why. But I can run another +250Mhz on the core. It is really odd. Anyways, hello everyone!

The stock voltage is 1.15v and the stock power is 600w. The XOC vBIOS is publicly available on tech power up and is 2001w, which further unlocks voltage and memory another +1000 over other 5090s. Some nice individual over at OC.net PM'd me the extra special HOF tool for even further voltage, LLC, and switching period control. Basically the same as the old KingPin tools. Ordered the HOF 5090D IceMan waterblock on AliExpress. Figured the card is pretty rare and any future owner will def. want the ability to put it under water to take advantage of the voltage and power limits.

Just scored a 980Ti for 50 bucks on ebay. Not really anything to write home about, except that it appears the owner was not aware that it came equipped with the morpheus 2 aftermarket heatsink which can't be sourced for anything less than 250-500. Obviously not going to spend that much on just a heatsink so I'm quite happy with the purchase. It's going to be a busy winter this year :)

I do! I'll snag a picture when I get home :)

What's up everyone! I am sorry I have been away for awhile. I am trying my hand at YT and hopefully build a large enough following to get sponsored by a CNC maker or continue to build my reserve to buy one. I haven't had the urge to upgrade any of my PC's to the latest and greatest (although I am thinking about the 9950X3D). I came across some local listings on a 5090, that weren't exactly deals (used, still above MSRP). The days of great used hardware prices are dead - people want 80 to 110% of their purchase price, and with new cards closing in on their MSRP's, I don't know who is buying used at these prices. I think that if Intel releases the B770 and it's under $400, I'll pounce on that card. I only need something good enough for video editing and CAD. I hope you and your families are doing well. I'm back here fully, doing my normal lurking.

Thought you all might appreciate a few photos I took from my own reference of the internals since it was my biggest interest on the redesign

5090FE is fine man. If I didn't like it, I would not keep it that's for sure lol! I had a 4090 Gaming OC and @johnksss that thing was cheap as hell, flimsy, light weight, and loud as hell with bad coil whine, but not this card, this card feels nice and premium and heavy etc. So, it's okay for $1,999.99 (People do try to convince me that my own GPU sucks though, they do not like it, that I like it I guess 🤣) Last I checked, Astral+Block = $4,000, too much for me to afford. But at least they perform TOP NOTCH once you water block it, flash it, and solder it.. Yes, the FE's have weak coolers; I cannot hold that against it. It's going on water/shunt anyways. I mean, your Astral is probably faster than an RTX Pro 6000, but that doesn't mean it's better than one. FE's have weak coolers but not weak cores. Definitely an acceptable GPU for the price tag and performance. Card scores perfectly acceptable for a stock cooler, hot, non-shunted 5090 FE. Plenty of other 5090's that cannot hit these numbers out there, and this is the hottest one you can buy. 🥵 NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 video card benchmark result - Intel Xeon W-3175X Processor,ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. ROG DOMINUS EXTREME

I don't have WoW, but here's this. CP2077 4K w/ RT and PT SOTR 4K w/ Highest Graphics settings Looks like I need to do something about the memory temperatures. The memory chips must need thicker pads. The core max is 61°C but the memory junction is 90°C. But, it runs 3350+ on core with no issues. (I have not tried higher than that.)

That’s fantastic. Nice graphics cards!!! Since I gave away my sons 3060, we juiced his system up with a RTX 3090 Founders Edition! It blows his hair back now in 1440P now lol. He is 12, and this is his first “Real Man’s” graphic card. 😂 Sons Rig: 12900KS/Z790 LGA1700/ DDR5 6400c32/ RTX 3090 FE/ EVGA 1300P+

Opened the box. The 4 small foams in each corners saved the inner box. And as you should know... Asus offer cheapo glossy thin cardboard boxes. There is no class with Asus. They go cheap where they can. Even for their flagship products. The box that come with the HOF is 100 times better. It's just a box... But I'm an collector and prefer to take good care of all my products and in an nice box. Cheap or expensive doesn't matter. A good quality box should be minimum to ask for when you pay this amount money for flagship cards... And for the records... I would be equal happy with a 10 years card. But what I don't like... Pay xx80 prices for xx60 tier cards. Hence you'll never see me buy brand new cards from mid tier class. The 5090 Astral looks like a small xx70 class card vs the monstrous creature 4090 HOF. Hmmm. Nope. It increased the value. Crocs ain't cheap here home😁 And it's time jou buy a pair. And in black😎 What reduce the value of an Asus Astral 5090.... Huang's autograph on the card. Hmmm. Loads of 5070's in the retail here. Every single of them is massively overpriced. The so called market don't work. Gigabyte 5070 at $871.65 without tax. Or better say close to 59% above the MSRP. It seems https://www.proshop.no/Grafikkort/GIGABYTE-GeForce-RTX-5070-AORUS-Master-12GB-GDDR7-RAM-Grafikkort/3331090 Nvidia need to ship 10 times as many cards if the prices shall come back to more normal levels... And not only 5070's. Is this Nvidia's answer on AMD's coming xx60 class cards? And will gamers buy 8GB xx60 cards in 2025? The GeForce RTX 5060 Ti and RTX 5060 have reportedly been delayed until mid-April and May.

Grabbed the ASUS GeForce RTX 5090 ROG Astral LC OC - $2,966.35 USD today. 1 out of 3 card was available for the whole scandinavian market (4 countries). Next delivery of 5090 cards from the retail shops... Unknown. Loads of 5070's is ofloaded today here home. And a few 5070Ti and 5080. I see there is still 3 out of 10 pc of Asus 5080 Astral OC available for purchase here home now 6.5 hour after the slip. $1660 USD. I think Asus have reached the limits what they can sell their 5080 flagship for right now. I doub't they increase the prices in the pace they have done. And no other brands 5080 is listed yet you can buy Asus 5080 cards. That speak loudly about the price point Asus want. As a side note... Gigabyte want $1730 for their best 5080. Not sure what's up with Gigabyte this gen cards. The cards should be delivered to Papusan's plaza within the next 5-7 days. And exactly the card I tried to buy.

I GOT IT!!!! RTX 5090FE on the way! Man, the support of this community and trust of this forum and also overclock.net is pure astounding. I was able to get the funds together and secure my order for a 5090FE at $1,999. Paying more than $1,999 is too much for me. This is very reasonable. Looking back now, I originally had a budget of $2,800 range. Anyways, I think Nvidia saw how much I was hating on them, and they sent the email to see if I’d still bend over for them 😂 (I did of course)

Now without pigtailed connectors lol. Grabbed the corsair type 4 premium single end cables.

My $600 equivalent (when you account for VAT) 9070 XT arrived EDIT: PCI-E Gen 5 on a riser no issue. Stock https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/127667606 100mv undervolt stock clocks https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/127668715

I managed to get a close to MSRP 9070xt reaper from powercolor that fits in my case. It will arrive tomorrow 😊

I received my 4090 laptop in the mail today. This was purchased with funds intended for an RTX 5090. However, since the RTX 5090 does not actually exist, (I’m not really near any local stores to really buy one) so I just gave up with trying to buy one online, and moved on with life. With my job, I’m finding my self having to stay at my desk 7a-7p. It’s paying well. But getting promoted to an operations manager requires me to play at a level of pure beast mode/be the best mode/no excuses allowed. 😂 So, I really needed a laptop for constant monitoring and check-in’s etc. First impressions: incredible panel! 😱 .. It’s just like OLED, maybe even better sometimes since it’s 1,000 nits bright and all.. No back light bleeding anywhere, I don’t even see any glowing at all. It’s 250Hz/ 16:10 aspect ratio, and 2560x1600/ Mini LED. So it’s really beautiful! You can run the brightness on 5% and it looks perfectly normal brightness like a regular monitor lol. CPU: 14900HX, feels very fast just using the machine. With fans silent it’s idling about 55-60c while downloading a game on Steam. With fans at 100% it’s not too bad. It’s LOUD! But the pitch and tone of the noise doesn’t make it annoying at all. It’s just noisy. But not annoying. GPU: Haven’t really gotten an opportunity to really use it just yet. But I’m expecting good things. It’s a 175w 4090 Mobile. Performance: So, I’m not expecting 4090 desktop power here obviously. But, it has DLSS3, and Frame Gen, and it’s 2560x1600! If my old 3090 Kingpin had frame Gen, I’d have never sold it! These are amazing features to have. Since Nvidia and AIB’s a like just recently killed the affordable gaming market for average people like me all together, buying a 4090 laptop seemed like the only way to go. Since even a RTX 5090 laptop MSI Raider will set you back an eye watering $5,000+ after taxes. Value: It’s a $2,000 dollar laptop. So, I think it’s going to offer a great value for what you get. A whole computer capable of decent gaming performance that is portable. Overall: This is a BIG laptop being 18 inches. I’ve never owned an 18” laptop before. The screen doesn’t feel like I’m squinting or leaning forward to find things like my last 15” laptop. And the 16:10 offers a little more desktop space to get things done. I really like the machine.

Merry Christmas, everyone. Blessings to all of you.

Merry Xmas and happy holidays to all! It bit funny and ironic we just talked about your adventures with Best Buy.....good luck! Two observations on the yellow tip again: If it were black, you wouldn't be able to see even the mild scorch marks. Companies should start including these in white or yellow for clear visibility of scorching. I still suspect there are plenty of black connectors out there already with scorch marks. You just can't see them. The bottom row strikes again with the weaker, [ ] design which I posit is susceptible to physical stress and speeds up the cycle as they are heated up and in conjunction with the physical stress are pulled ever so slightly open making them even more susceptible. --- These connectors really should not be physically stressed at all and the weaker the design (like MSI's bottom row array) the more the stress can cause meltdowns in conjunction with migrating imbalance of amps over time for various reasons.

Merry Christmas to all my extended family in this thread!!! Now, I am in a bit of a dilemma. Bestbuy has the Prime 5070 TI for $749.99, brand new. I just spent that on the "Like New" card from Amazon. I am going to cancel the card from Amazn and begrudgingly buy from Bestbuy. Here goes nothing....

So I ended up snagging a pair of V-Color 9600 2x24GB DDR5 off of eBay new from a seller I've dealt with before In today's market conditions, couldn't beat the price of $489.99 plus I had two coupons for eBay (basically, "you haven't shopped us in a long time!" coupons) for $15 off and $10 off respectively. I was able to use both of them knocking it down to $464.99 for a total of $495.80 shipped and with ebay rewards, that knocks another $15 off of it making it $480.92 to my door. Am I doing backflips? No, but much better than those G.Skill sticks that would have been $650.40 to my door.....still..... This is *exactly* why I try to avoid new platforms because once I start it gets ugly real fast. 🤣 Remember 11th gen? I was just going to pick up a 11700k and the cheapest Z590 board and use my dirt cheap DDR4 sticks to "give it a whirl." Within 4 months, it is several 11900k's binned, Asus Z590 board and EVGA Z590 along with multiple kits of DDR4.... I'd like to say I won't end up binning some 285k/290k chips, but that would be most likely a big ole fib....🤣

Regarding 5090, still have some telegram bots reporting new drops and prices, yesterday was a founders 5090 drop from nvidia directly on their website for 2099 Euro. Got the notification and went on the site. Got one in the shopping cart but after like 5 minutes of thinking if I need it, I decided to close the website. Every game I play like battlefield 6 or stalker 2 works perfectly on the 4090. So it just a waste of money for me. Also went to the website like almost 40 min later and they were still available, tried to put one again in the cart and it went through, I was against one click to order it and closed again. So it looks like the market is saturated a little. Also got this baby to play with. Nice looking card😃. An oldie but still packing a punch with those 32GB HBM2 memory for larger AI models. Will try some qwen 2.5 and Llama bigger ones on it

I haven't uploaded a video in a long time. Now that I finally found stable settings I wanted to save a permanent record for myself and help anyone else that feels like they are spinning their wheels. Moving from Intel to AMD overclocking is more difficult than moving from Windoze to Linux. Maybe (just maybe) there is something in here that would be useful to Brothers @jaybee83 or @Raiderman

Hahaha, the PRO 7995wx is good even Overkill for what is needed it but it was an offer i cannot refuse😆😆. Was in holiday and didnt have time for it. Still need to optimize and rearange Cables inside, got a 9100 Pro2 TB for that Pcie gen 5. Need more ram and also gpus. Ignore the gtx1050 , it's only for tests. I will need to get an riser 90 degree to fit the gpu inside. But I love the mainboard, Asrock wrx90 ws evo, went with it because the other wrx90 is from Asus and I despise them. More expensive as the asrock and full of problems .Reddit and forums are full of them. STUPID Asus wants over 1k euro for that mainboard and still cannot make it work. The Asrock is incredible, so many options, bulid like a tank, a lot of connectivity, bmc remote management is superb. And it booted and did the whole diagnostic and memory training in under 3 minutes. That's good for a complicated platform like the threadripper.I love it. Use case it will be my homelab brain. Will run a gazillion VMs because Cores are plenty and I will also start Local AI training. Still need to decide on gpus..maybe I will get some Rtx A series ore Rtx Ada for it.

Mission accomplished! 🤣 (Out to dinner with the wifey tonight for her birthday)....... 5090 for $2054 total in my hand secured...... Foxtrot Tango Whiskey.... (That look when you refused to pay the stupid high prices, returned your Astral, and calmly waited and watch the market to drop and hoping to snag an Open box sub $2k).....

Boo! Ghost from the dead saying hi.

It would appear you didn't have a chance while the card was on air either. (This is called being petty and didn't need to be said. Hoping you start to understand what I'm getting at.) No EVC and no water cooling. This whole scenario was not what I was looking for. Not even close. I was genuinely hoping to see you push the card using your skillset. A brother from notebooktalk showing the rest of the world how the 5090FE runs in the hands of someone who knows what they are doing. That way we know it's true potential. To many folks not knowing how to overclock or setup OS's or have the right tools for the job. That's what I was looking for. Not all the excuses on why you can't beat other AIB cards. That wasn't even the topic of discussion. And the fact that you keep throwing around how much you paid for your card and water block. Is just kind of crazy my friend. I can reword that whole downplaying of how much you spent into a completely different light, but I choose not to. I don't do my friends like that. I'm not here to clown, just want to know what the card can do from someone I trust. That's it. No hidden agendas.

@Mr. Fox Not sure if you know this but..... The Best Computer Store in Phoenix, AZ The Wait Is Almost Over – Micro Center Grand Opening Coming in 2025! Micro Center is coming to Phoenix with over 25,000 items in stock and the industry’s best customer service. Phoenix, get ready to experience Tech Heaven for yourself—stay tuned for opening details! https://www.microcenter.com/site/stores/phoenix.aspx You might be able to rent that 5090 yet!!

OK Brother @jaybee83 I just installed the Apex. I have not updated the BIOS, just disabled TPM, Secure Boot, WiFi, BT. Left all of the CPU settings on Auto, manually set an 8400 memory overclock (not tuned, just set what I thought would work) and *BOOM* - it worked. This shipped with a pre-release BIOS so since it is dual BIOS I will leave that alone and try one of the recent uploads from Safedisk on the secondary BIOS chip. Also noticing no bifurcation issues. Sabrent NVMe Quad card running in top X4 slot and GPU is still X16. I am only using the upper Gen5 M.2 slot on the motherboard, both DIMM.2 and the Quad NVMe card. I left the other M.2 slots empty to avoid cutting the CPU back to X8. Time to hit the sack. Will see if tomorrow I can get some play time after celebrating Mother's Day with my best friend, Mrs. Fox. Next projects will be to delid the second 9950X and tune the memory and CPU overclock. @Papusan and @johnksss having a backplate didn't do anything for the bowed motherboard. It's bowed just like the Intel Apex and Apex Encore were. It wasn't flat until I mounted it to the chassis and bolted it down.

Sadly I have been looking at that exact card lol. Had it in my cart multiple times. But sanity got the better of me. The excitement of owning something that expensive would probably wear off quickly and I'm not sure I could ever forgive myself for buying something that foolishly expensive. I'd rather get a couple Breitlings or a nice Rolex.

impressive! which gigabyte vbios sku are u using? xtreme waterforce or master? i scoured through the 5090 TPU reviews and saw smth interesting: While the 20ms power spikes are basically the same with all SKUs, the maximum wattage with raytracing or maximum overall are quite different: Maximum overall: 640W - Gigabyte Gaming OC 636W - Asus Astral 636W - Palit Gamerock 629W - Asus Astral LC 611W - MSI Suprim LC 608W - MSI Suprim SOC 607W - Asus Tuf 601W - Nvidia FE Max. Raytracing: 596W - Asus Astral LC 595W - Asus Tuf 585W - Gigabyte Gaming OC 561W - Asus Astral 561W - Palit Gamerock 561W - MSI Suprim LC 561W - MSI Suprim SOC 561W - Nvidia FE Avg. of both: 612.5W - Gigabyte Gaming OC 612.5W - Asus Astral LC 601W - Asus Tuf 598.5W - Asus Astral 598.5W - Palit Gamerock 586W - MSI Suprim LC 584.5W - MSI Suprim SOC 581W - Nvidia FE Ofc im aware that cooling also plays a role here, but might be an indicator that some vbios versions allow for, lets say "more flexible" 600+ W outliers than others. meaning they dont enforce the 600W limit as hard 🙂 from what ive seen thus far, Astral and Gigabyte (Xtreme / Master) vbios versions seem to be the user favorites in terms of benchmark scores. edit: w00t w00t! the new 9950X3D will arrive tomorrow, so will be back in business soon 🙂

Package on the way @1610ftw I may include the cat as an extra. 😂

My impression is this is better than average. I haven't finished tuning for the PBO profile, but it is definitely WAY BETTER than the CPU installed in the Gene. Once I delid this and go bare die in an Apex mobo I think it will be even better. I think I am pushing the limits of this EK CR360 Dark AIO. See PBO settings below. I will see if I can take the Curve Optimizer higher than 25/20 sometime tomorrow. Right now it is not far off from my manual overclock with fixed core ratios. I am still working on trying to figure out the B850 Gigabyte AORUS Elite board. The behavior is very different than the Gene or the Cabron. I am starting to figure it out, but haven't gotten as far as memory fine tuning yet. This is just the XMP profile with tREFI maxed out and tFAW set to the bottom value available in the BIOS (20). I bumped the voltage from 1.450V to 1.550V. Even though it's got some degree of weirdness to it, I am actually more impressed with this B850 AORUS board than I expected to be. I was not very happy initially, but it was because I was struggling with getting things tuned because of the very different behavior/response to BIOS settings compared to what works on the Gene and the Cabron before it.

Just bought myself a Sapphire 280X 3GB Tri-X should be here next weekend :)

keep us posted on the SP ratings for both your 9950X cpus, im highly interested. i was literally SHOCKED when i saw the load temps on my stock lidded 9950X3D with CB2024 and CB R23... 200W package load maxed out at a measly 76C, with average temps even lower. at first i thought i mightve messed something up with the fan settings in bios after upgrading, but nope...it is just THAT much colder, absolutely insane. my 7950X easily broke 90C, sometimes creeping up to 94-95C depending on the ambient temps. delidding and swapping out the IHS should result in craaaaazy OC headroom, both for CPU and RAM 🙂

offers popping up at just +100€ over my budgeting limit....

A 7 pound, 15 ounce baby monster will be headed your way tamale. Now I just need to sell the monitor. Those are hard to sell. Lots of people prefer to buy $100 trash displays from Target, Walmart and Amazon just because it is new and don't want to pay the same amount for something about 5 times better, LOL.

While Reddit is infinitely larger than our humble platform, what I can say is our moderation here is much more fair. PM sent!

Slightly better than my 9950X pos I sent back to AMD @~43000 cb23 🙄

Ewwww

ALL ROPs are present! This thing looks amazing in person. Draining the fluid for Koolance red 702 tomorrow.

Steam hardware survey begs to differ: https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ Budgets never change. Real life never changes. Those on controlled budgets can only spend so much and they will continue to find the best solution that fits within their budget. This is why even generations ago, mid tier and below class cards dominate and will continue to dominate. We live in a bubble in this thread not realizing how good we have it overall. Go to just about any Joe Gamer and talk about dropping $1k+ on a gaming GPU let alone $2k+ for a gaming GPU and they look at you like you're nuts. Most gamers just want to load up games and play and have no problems adjusting settings (or letting the game adjust to their hardware) and playing. They don't measure fps or benchmark or tune systems. They slap in a card (or have a place slap it in for them or buy a pre-built) and just use their computers as is. I do agree with you the ASP will continue to increase simply because inflation and costs continue to increase and companies will not give up their profits in any way, shape or form unless demand sharply decreases. I would argue though most gamers are more than happy with their mid tier purchases. And the last three cycles have shown us, and will again when all is said and done, that the 060/070 cards will dominate in market share.

I got the B650E and a 7700 because the value was very decent, the 9xxx series is not that interesting but the next gen might be with the 12 core CCDs.

RIP

Walked in about 4:15 pm and happened to grab this while getting stuff for my customers. Edit: Well this card definitely has some overclocking room. I will stay that much. https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=sw P&cpuId=&gpuId=1696&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=false&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

You should follow the same advice GN said about buying 5070Ti😎 From 1:56 I fix it for you....🤗 Does it really matter? Nope.

consider yourselves lucky that u even HAVE SEEN any 5090 in stock or actually know about upcoming drops. ive had neither so far 😛 however, im having some funsies with scalpers on ebay. one of them actually dared to offer me a 5% price drop on his 5090 Suprim card, going from 5500€ initial to 5200€. i GRACIOUSLY declined his offer with the following message: F*** OFF DIRTY SCALPER! 😄