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Thought you all might appreciate a few photos I took from my own reference of the internals since it was my biggest interest on the redesign

If I decide to keep it I am going to. I do really like this Zotac Solid OC model. The aesthetics, build quality, size and performance compared to most of the other options is really good IMHO. Thank you. I will have to drop back to those drivers and re-run all of the benchmarks again. I suspect my Sky Diver and Fire Strike and Time Spy scores will also likely go up using old (better) drivers. The newer ones are mostly gamer crap I think. Thank you. I paid $2399 for it. Cheaper than we have seen AIB 5090 selling for, but still probably not worth it when I stop to think about it. Nice GPU, but way too much money for how little gain (related to price) that I am seeing over my 4090. I dusted off the portable AC unit sitting in the garage and parked it in front of the GPU and that made a huge difference in boost clock. I can't catch brother @Papusan with his arctic temperatures. His max load temps are about 15-20°C lower than mine and that really makes a big difference. Anyhoo, so far I am running like 3300-3325 MHz core and that is losing around 200 MHz on account of the higher load temps, but pretty much pegged at the 600W limit (605-610W). Maybe if I keep it and block/shunt/chilled water it, I might be able to give him more of a run for the money. Its too close to stock behavior right now to get within slapping distance. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5878520 https://www.3dmark.com/sw/2591206 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5878519 https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3594837 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_vulkan/submissions/5878517 https://www.3dmark.com/sn/7957241 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5878516 https://www.3dmark.com/sn/7957336 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay/submissions/5878515 https://www.3dmark.com/sb/326913 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/5878513 https://www.3dmark.com/spy/57999178 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike/submissions/5878511 https://www.3dmark.com/fs/33672605 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_sky_diver/submissions/5878518 https://www.3dmark.com/sd/6526977

Whoa! Whoa! Whoa! who is this guy and what happen to Mr.Fox?? All AMD rigs? Ryzen themed wallpaper? 🤣 BRENNER is Totally AMD fanboy’n it up in 2025. Hahaha. I’m just messing with you man lol. 😆 I’m about to jump to AMD soon my self. The new Threadripper 9960X has me drooling, and it’s the first time in years since original AMD Threadripper 1900X/1920X/1950X when I have really really wanted something from them like this. 🤩 You got to shunt mod and block that Zotac 5090. ASAP! But it’s a GREAT GPU. I don’t care if it’s Zotac or other brand, good price, good performance, let it rip! The 5090 is a great improvement over 4090. Very efficient! Better silicon, higher clocks, less voltage needed, better thermal transfer. The 32GB VRAM works great in a few high memory leak games I play, that still can’t fill up the VRAM. I can play for hours and will see 28GB VRAM utilized, and the 1% lows are butter smooth and no skips. For speedway you want 572.43 or 572.83, Steel nomad still loves 576.28 lol. Anyways, shunt mod won’t increase voltage it’ll just allow the max voltage to always be tapped as if the card is pulling 50 watts, but it’s really pulling 600+ watts, so it’s not throttling back the voltage anymore. You can exceed 600w in some heavy games and benches even with just 0.895mv on these monsters. 🔥you will notice the power limit can kick in much sooner than 600w and it’s all for the sake of maintaining stability trying to fit in that small power envelope, so without shunt it’s forcing down clocks and voltages. Either way, it’s a great GPU and a solid upgrade over the 4090. Especially for brutally heavy gaming like many games upscaled to 8K, the 5090 just chews right through it with ridiculous memory bandwidth. Pricing isn’t bad nowadays. It looks like you got a good deal! As far as shunt modding, I would go for soldering (2) 2mohm shunts or maybe even (2) 1mohm shunts. 2mohm will give you 1200w max, and 1mohm will give you 1800w max. The thing is you may see phantom throttling much sooner than that so the more the better. Reliability is top notch! No melting cables here. I trust it 100%! All buttoned up in a closed case with some serious GPU power being put out in BF6 at 3.3Ghz on the core! I’ve had mine since March, and have been shunted since June. It has been 100% reliable with no 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Mission accomplished! 🤣 (Out to dinner with the wifey tonight for her birthday)....... 5090 for $2054 total in my hand secured...... Foxtrot Tango Whiskey.... (That look when you refused to pay the stupid high prices, returned your Astral, and calmly waited and watch the market to drop and hoping to snag an Open box sub $2k).....

Sure ! That was FHD LCD, and thanks! No, only 8560w. 8770w is very rare "pokemon" in my place. And cost waay too much, like 300-400$. With MXM cards, if it fits heatsink, then it is matter of correct vbios, which you need to find out yourself, propably. Or look for info in NBRChive (old forum) --- About eDP Panel! Some good news, some bad. Good is my 4K cable works ! Panel is damaged, though. But I saw backlight working and content (bios logo). Bad news is those cable work only without installed GPU drivers. Also UEFI is a must, otherwise LCD won't even turn on. I experimented on spare HP and I could set up even FHD resolution, but after installing drivers laptop don't even shows internal panel connection. Only external output works. This is problem I had in my Clevo before, I tried to upgrade screen to 4K and it also worked until installing drivers. Seems like I need to troubleshoot another problem. I heard about EDID, now I need to check out how to program them or something.. So we're halfway to success...

Agreed. Another reason I skipped the PNY. I had BB match it and everything and then said, "no thanks." I mean if it drops to $1999.99 then I will most likely take the trade off but at $2199.99? Pass. Absolutely agree with all those points.....

Unfortunately I strongly dislike colors that are not a neutral black / silver / grey base color and these are what - blueish / turquoise? And do they still have the rubber-finish on the palm rest? Also not a fan of the inverted mainboard design that makes maintenance a pita. Too bad Alienware has decided to go that way. With that being said I love that they don't give a shit and make these quite deep and heavy and also the cherry keyboard is great and of course the cooling.

Someone snatched one of these up at Walmart for $1,124.99. But I’d still get it at $2000. Walmart is crazy lol.

lesson learned for the 6090: will not bother to spam refresh during launch, but rather lean back and enjoy the 5090 3-4 months longer until prices come down to normal levels 🙂 (watch me eat my words once the 6090 actually launches 😄)

If it is any consolation, I already wiped the stock install and did a optimized clean clean install and with just that Steel Nomad and Timespy at stock went from "good" to "excellent" in both. Dell always has the trash cookie cutter OS installs. Now to start dabbling with the BIOS CPU OC options and OC this 5070ti and see where we can take this finely milled piece of beauty. 🤣 Ugh, I was out of town a few months ago and we stopped at a random mall and they had another full on CROC STORE! I hissed at it and shielded my eyes from the horror! 🤣 Interesting fact, kids at my wife's school are banned from wearing these because they do not promote sure footing and can cause potential accidents or trips/falls. 🙂 This can mean only one thing! @Mr. Fox is keeping his 5090!! Now I feel like the odd man out!! I need to double down looking for a good open box deal or promo! If a good deal on a 5090 comes my way, I'll end up passing the 5080 down to the Mrs. and the 9070xt to my daughter as I have a whole pile of components to build out her new desktop or if she is leaning towards one of my full fledged gaming laptops one of those since I have like 7 of them again.....

BF6 Beta was such a TEASE! The game was INSANE. Now we cannot play anymore!!! 😭I got to rank 10 Can't wait for next weekend. This game needs to launch already! @Talon was hitting it harder than me lol. I wish I would have started playing it earlier. Anyways, it's amazing how useful cover is in this game. And spray someone with a M4 takes a little practice as first. But you can get the pattern down after some practice. GREAT GAME! Game was completely butter smooth. Maybe once per hour you would feel the tinniest stutter, but not enough to care. And it could have been because my frame rate was like sub 400 with x4 Frame gen on. Anyways. Fantastic game! It feels FASTER moving than other Battlefield titles. Kinda like a mix between COD and BF2042. I really like it! We can play again on 8/14 THRU 8/17 Can't wait.

BINGO

This one is better.

oh mymy, what have we got here? 😄 welcome to the club bud, curious to see what u can squeeze out of that card. how much did u pay for it? hope u got a good price. yeah, the GB Master vBios seems to be the best if you still need proper fan control. if you dont, then the waterforce xtreme seems to be quite nice, although i dont have any personal experience with that. 1.07V max vcore is quite nice, congratz on that!

That has been true on all of my shunt mods. Not as much as I wanted it to go up, but enough to get a higher core overclock. But, I think they have locked down more stuff on the 5090 FE, which might be why. My Port Royal score also went up about 700 points with the same overclock just by switching to the AORUS Master vBIOS. https://www.3dmark.com/pr/3593815 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5878251

Yep, that's one of them. If you shunt it, you may also find like many your voltage max will also go up too in tandem albeit some stay the same. I think @tps3443 voltage didn't go up when he shunted or minimally.

So, I flashed the Gigabyte AORUS Master 5090 vBIOS and got an instant boost in performance. @Papusanand @jaybee83 isn't that the one you both decided was the best? I tried the Extreme Waterforce version and it disables the fans since that card does not have fans. Same exact overclock settings as the previous post, just different firmware. If keep this it will get blocked and shunt-modded because the voltage and power limits are crippling it. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/139535603 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5878242?recalculate=true

Still slowly working toward finding the max core OC. Not there yet. This is with +300 core and +3000 memory. Max voltage is 1.070V. Temps are still great in spite of the little fans @Papusan mentioned. I might have to dust off the portable AC and see if the boost clocks will hold higher under load. https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/139527683 | https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5878196

Doing some testing with the MSI Raider 7945HX3D/4090M vs the Alienware 285HX/5070ti in Fallout 76 first and as expected, the Raider wins decidedly at 1600p. This is with both units on the newest BIOS, complete stock optimized defaults no tuning / re-tuning yet....I expect post tuning for it to get even worse for the Alienware because MSI via their Bios and/or Smokeless has so many more tuning options. In Timespy GPU, the 4090 is ~ 28% faster than the 5070ti, but in actual gameplay it is ~41% faster because of that X3D loving and probably a hair more because when the skies turn dark in FO76 and overcast, it hits a little bit harder. I'll be looking for a proper spot on the MSI to see if I can cap out 99% isolated to then switch back to the Dell to test a proper GPU cap out on both where I expect the chasm to widen even further. I'm in the process of giving the Alienware a proper clean install as there is so much Dunk (Dell Junk) in there it's ridiculous. I had actually listed the MSI for sale and figured the free Alienware was good enough but after these preliminary results I took it down to keep. The temps you see are after about ~5-10 minutes in that spot. Both units have fantastic thermals. I just realize I need to tune the MSI's fan curve to stop that stop/ramp cycle with the CPU. That's its only flaw because temps are not bad at all. Fans maxed on both, the Alienware has better frequency and dB but sitting there for ~10 minutes and they do get audible. 🙂 Alienware: MSI Raider: Yeah, that jump from my KPE 3090ti to my MSI Liquid 4090 was bonkers but the 5090 definitely was no slouch. It was good seeing what Nvidia COULD bring to the table when they felt threatened by AMD. They didn't hold anything back with the 4000 series. So far seems to be an decent sample. Cap out vmax to see what is your pre-shunt voltage max. Also do a quick GPU-Z render test to see where you crash with voltage pushed to max slider in AB. You never know, but as you continue to test you may have scored some good silicon. We'll know soon enough. 🙂

I have both 30 pin and 40 pin schematics, they're pretty standard. It also checks out that 4K screen with touch screen capability have separate flex cable for touch, separately from 40 pin LCD. Why I know ? Because I have such screen from tablet Zbook 🙂 EDIT: for 1080p we need only 2 pairs + aux channel in eDP, that is 30pin one is used for. For 2k-4k we need correspondingly 3 pairs + aux and 4 pairs + aux. That's why I made another cable for 30 pin, because I needed to solder a lot less cables, easier on myself. Just to check out if my mod would work. Dreamcolor uses all of lanes because it is 8 bit conversion to 10 bit, but with 1080p resolution. For same resolution output in LVDS (compared to eDP) you need twice as much lanes. eDP FHD takes 2 pairs + control channel, LVDS takes 4 differential pairs + control channel. Thanks to AstroMan helping hand, we are figuring out what I missed. When I was writing answer to why it is not working and I don't have ideas, I had such code programmer duck moment ..! I have hypothesis to check, I may had mistaken LCDVCC to be panel supply line. My theory is to connect panel supply pins to +3.3V line instead of LCDVCC - I think it is just signal from MXM connector, it was used only in LVDS technology. But we all, you and me, have to wait till monday for next part of my troubleshotting... I took my modded cable but forgot to take eDP panels from job place 😞 so we wait till monday for news - do I fry my lovely HP or does it work. I lost yet another low cost HP auction. And spare board died out of nowhere, no idea why. BTW: having steam deck OLED I am tempted to make 32GB ram mod on it. It seems so easy, because I would need to change only two RAM chips. And would love to share process here, what do you think ? 😄 I have only little board heater and Quick hot air station, but that was enough for Clevo chipset change. My only concern are my hands, since I have "heavy" carpal tunnel in both and my next appointment is early october. But two chips instead four seems easy!

Thanks. Maybe. 🤣 It definitely doesn't impress to the same degree the 4090 over 3090/3090 Ti did. It is actually not seeming like a huge upgrade over 4090 in spite of what the price would lead one to expect. The build quality is really solid. It doesn't have the cheap plastic vibe going on. Yes, Alphacool makes a Core block for it. If I decide to keep it I will order one. If I keep it I will probably sell the 9070 XT. I'm taking it slow right now. Did a small overclock and got into the top 20 right off the bat. Not sure if there are lots of duds or what. That was too easy, so I don't know what the deal is there. I saw people in reviews complaining this GPU model runs too hot, but that does not seem to be an issue on this one. Temps are better than I expected (65°C core and 72°C memory) for air cooling. I've maxed out the memory slider at +3000 and a mundane +200 core. System is pulling just under 1100W from the wall and a bit over 600W at the GPU. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_speed_way/submissions/5877947 | https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/139475307

Yeah I've hit a personal wall in GPU pricing. When you're paying 2-3x the amount of all your other components just for the GPU, something has to give. Remember when the golden rule before was to grab the cheapest model and block it for those who run CLs? I'm ok with RGB as long as I can adjust or turn it off. Products coming with default rainbow pretty much forces users to use their data gathering software to control it to turn it off or to something more pleasing. Every RGB enabled item should ship in a default state of OFF. That should be mandatory and let the user choose if they want to turn it on. Yeah, it boggles my mind that some people can not see those with an absolutely clear and selfish, narcissistic, greedy agenda that are in it profit above all else while pushing a, "trust me bro" approach and try to isolate and make themselves the purveyors of truth and default to the "misinformation" label at every opportunity to push their platform. It is PAINFUL to watch. Dufus does it ALL the time.... I'm not a big BF fan so ah well but they use that to identify cheaters and ban their hardware primarily. As for the dual X3D CCD, would have been nice to have a dual binned X3D 9950X3D but it's not the end of the world.... 🤣 -------------------------------------------- In 5090 news: Newegg is now either offering promo codes and/or hardware tossed in to try and move cards ranging from 9700x to 7800X3D CPUs along with now MSI slashing prices on their cards. Clearly no one is buying enough and as reported, stockpiles are growing. Zotac Solid OC 5090 is still down to $2399.99 MSI Ventus is now down to $2499 w/ promo code MSI Vanguard 5090 is down to $2599 with promo code MSI Gaming Trio 5090 is down to $2799.99 and you get a free 7800X3D with it MSI Vanguard Launch Edition (8 months later??) is down to $2799.99 and includes a keyboard(!) Gigabyte Gaming RTX 5090 is down to $2809.99 and includes a free 7800X3D MSI Suprim Liquid finally dropped in price by $250 and is now $2999.99 MSI Suprim Air 5090 dropped in price to $3149.99 and includes a 9700x In addition, the Gigabyte Master (both white and black) and TUF OC are all down $60 (!) to $2939.99 now... those must be official as Best Buy also lowered the price on the Masters cards. Everything in stock.... Only cards that continue to remain out of stock now are the Gigabyte AIO/WB models.... And of course Asus continues to not lower the price of their Astrals holding steady at $3359.99 Microcenter 5090 pricing continues to fall: Zotacs down like Newegg, but also PNY ARGB down to $2499.99 Gigabyte 5090 gaming down to $2599.99 Like Newegg Trio down to $2649.99 Asus TUF OC down to $2799.99 One of the few rare times you can get overall better deals from Newegg than MC on 5090s atm with the promo codes and free hardware tossed in. Microcenter has serious markdowns on 5090 laptops.... That MSI 5090/285hx raider on launch was $4399.99 VERY glad overall (after the rush of early adopters) buyers are just flat out not buying this stuff and prices continue to trend down.

Did you plug the 5090 into your computer or did you plug the computer into the GPU? It's funny to think back to my old voodoo 3 3000 and then see this. Also cleaning up the input wave form or even just changing it a bit can impact the harmonics you will get through the different conversions in the system so that's very believable.

Morning all. Lot's has happened over the past 4 years. To put this in perspective, the 9000 AMD cards are the polaris cards. That year, they did not bring the high end. And Moore's law is dead already mentioned and commented on leaks of a giant card in the next round of RDNA cards. Which is sorely needed. The real deal is we need MORE RAM. But I'm getting into local AI, so I am biased. Yes, part of the enemy. lol.

An idiot from Facepoot messaged me a few days ago about my 9070 XT ad with "$650" and said nothing else. I replied back "today only, come get it while you can" and he never replied. He messaged me around midnight tonight. Further proof he is a dumbass. "$600" this time, so I replied "$675" and said nothing more. If he replies with $625 then I will reply $725. (Listing is $700.)

I surprised her with the Series 10 Apple Watch she has been wanting for quite some time and a no holds barred dinner. Funny, we went to Microcenter and it was getting a little late and I didn't get a chance to look around like I wanted (I could have spent 2-3hrs in there easily. So much sale and clearance stuff it was insane). While looking at rows upon rows of clearance motherboards I turned to her and said, "can you believe all this stuff? wow!" and she looked me dead in the eye with a smirk and said, "Is it your birthday too?" 🤣 I knew right then and there it was time to pack up and head out to the stores and dinner for her birthday. I'm warning you @Mr. Fox and please take these words to heart.... ....Microcenter is a dangerous place to peruse with a credit card in hand. It is doubly dangerous with a Microcenter Credit card getting 5% off items at checkout.... When your MC opens up in Arizona, you have been warned. 🤑

MSI 5090 installed. Still a chonker, but a $2k chonker vs a super $3.6k chonker. MSI 5080 Shadow 3x OC vs MSI 5090 Ventus 3x OC.... Installed: No coil whine again. I'm now convinced the Tripp-Lite surge protector + filter along with the EVGA 1600w P2 is helping. The odds of scoring what is quickly approaching 15 cards in a row on this setup tested not having coil whine or anything of note starting with the KPE 3090ti would have to be an incredible string of luck. If I want to close the case back up, I'm going to have to plug back in the lower 3x120mm and install 140mm fans back on the top to keep the airflow going properly. ---- The new zone in WoW for the Xpac that dropped 10 days ago is brutal. It hits the 5090 harder than any other zone I've seen so far and immediately caps it to 100% utilization zoning in and getting about 130fps pure stock For reference the 5080 was getting about 81fps in the same spot overclocked (+300 / +3000) This is 4k Ultra 10 RT High (which is basically max everything)

Happy birthday to her. But the birthday present is for you?

That sucks... But here's the positive the game is very optimized which is a miracle in 2025 where majority of games run like crap and some having forced RT on. I couldnt try out the BETA because the new NVIDIA 580 drivers are broken especially for laptops, Low GPU usage in games which causes low FPS and performance, This affects GPUs in the 50 series, 40 series, 30 series, and even the 20/16 Series, probably affects the 10 series too. Going back to 577 and older fixes it.

So I managed to snag an open box MSI Ventus 5090 3x OC edition for $1932.26 or $2054.30 after tax or in other words $1360.29 when as is said and done (rewards and all that jazz) cheaper than the Astral I returned aka ~40% cheaper which is sick. And yet I'm wondering if I hold out can I get one even cheaper! 🤣 Once you've been to the mountain top at jacked up MSRP and seen what the 5090 can do, all you want to do at this point is try to score one as cheap as possible.

Sounds great! Watch out for lions! 🦁 😆 You know, I downloaded the first Ashes of Singularity just for the benchmark on my Xeon 3175x because I had ran it on my 10900K/11900K/13900/14900/7980xe systems. And then I started playing the game. It’s kinda fun if you give it a chance. But it is dated looking now, I made it through a few levels and just stopped because it became too difficult to continue lol. But it’s pretty fun either way! I’ll try the 2nd one for sure. I love the original benchmark on the first one. I want to love RTS games but hard for me to fully invest in them. Also, BF6 Beta is live again tomorrow. If you decide to play. 🥳

What 27 dollars can give you.. now fun begins!

I actually could have saved another $200 on a PNY and decided it was worth $200 to have the dual BIOS option for a cross-flash safety net. The PNY does not have dual BIOS. Otherwise I would have gone with the PNY. That said, I think there is a slightly higher build quality (objective) and aesthetic advantage (subjective) to the Zotac Solid OC. I do like the more muted appearance of the Solid, ASUS Prime and TUF video cards more than the flashy trash rainbow puke. Probably so. I think so much of what we see in "news" articles and YouTube videos about faulty computer hardware and security risks are based on isolated and very limited scenarios that will never affect 999 out of 1,000 users. It sucks to be that one unlucky guy, but it's pole vaulting over mouse turds to make a federal case out of the one rare example.

That’s gonna be rare to absolute mission impossible to find such a deal. I have only seen like two crazy cheap 5090’s from Walmart and that’s one of them. Walmart marks down returns by like 50% apparently. But my Walmart doesn’t even have 5090’s, let alone people returning them there lol.!😂 I think your card for $2,399 is very decent price. I’d be happy with that my self. Only other option would be to return the Zotac and grab the PNY Epic for $2,199 that @electrosoft shared. Save $200 bucks get the same or better at least. 🤷‍♂️ $2,399.99 is a good deal for a 5090 in my opinion though. I think you have a decent card that needs shunt+water. My last BF6 session was pulling down WAYYY more power than that Zotac was I’m certain of it. Also I was set at 3350Mhz boost in MSI Afterburner lol. Thing might hit 30c on the back side on a bad day. Tiny FE PCB is completely sandwiched in Liquid Metal and thermal pads on either side. If any fire starts I think it’s gonna be my power supply, being that it’s a 1200 unit pretending it’s something much bigger. I am not sure how much GPU power BF6 uses. Since I recently disabled GPU power monitoring in my OSD Riva tuner. So I’m not really sure how much the game uses GPU power wise. But that’s surprising any 5090 would catch fire in BF6, I didn’t get the feeling it was one of those (Super GPU power hungry games). My system idles at 340 watts just chilling at the wall. In BF6 I was hitting 1,200 watts at the wall. My CPU was eating 300 watts of that alone. So I’m gonna say maybe 600 watts with a full tilt OC on my GPU. Not a very power heavy game. That Zotac that burned was probably just busted lol.

I would guess human error on the part of the employee that marked it down that much. But, it makes me want to return this one for a refund, LOL.

what?! how is that even possible, wth.... 4-5 months on a backup card...sorry but nah, no amount of savings would be worth that to me 😄

Yup.I can almost see @jaybee83 push frenetic on the refresh button on day one😁 Me... Know prices here dont change much the first 5 weeks. Take it calm boys and girls. And if you want or prefer Asus.... Not much to gain if you find a card within 3 weeks. Only luck of draw on an open box for a better deal. Day one or within 4 weeks and you are good to go. Extra good time if you are an scalper. . Bro @Mr. Foxdon't play newest Battlefield due forced Secure Boot. Hence he won't cook/fry his new purchased Zotac😁 Please backup all your ssd's @tps3443🤗 https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/zotac-rtx-5090-reportedly-catches-fire-during-battlefield-6-session

From 1969...

And prices keep coming on down, down, down..... $2199.99 brand new PNY ARGB model no less..... https://www.microcenter.com/product/690486/pny-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5090-argb-epic-x-overclocked-triple-fan-32gb-gddr7-pcie-50-graphics-card Apply for a MC credit card and it's $2089.99 at check out...... NOW WE'RE TALKING!! And reports are prices will continue to come down because the 5090 stock piles just simply aren't moving.... To think at one point this card was $3300+ 3 months ago..... FYI Best Buy will price match this online and with 5% rewards, it is the same price ($2089.99) when all is said and done and you don't have to open up a MC CC to get it. I'm mulling this one over, but I might stick it out for another model / price. We'll see. At this rate, some of the original $1999.99 launch models might return to that pricing and via MC or BB, that is $1899.99 new or B&H even more with their tax back CC.

Hold on brother, not necessarily. 🤣 It could mean that. I'm still not convinced that it's worth it. I have 30 days from the date of purchase to decide. If the 9070 XT sells then I will be keeping it because my only other GPU is a 3080. I like it but I haven't decided if I want to keep it or if it's worth what I paid for it. I have very mixed feelings about it because it is such a poor value. If I can't sell the 9070 XT for an acceptable price then I might decide that I'd rather have my money back. Whether I keep it or I don't, I can't help but feel like I'm getting screwed. Is it a nice GPU? Yes, very nice. Is it more powerful than my 4090? Yup, a little bit. Is it more powerful than the 9070 XT? Yeah, quite a bit. Is it priced right? Hell no, the price sucks.

Yes, FHD max. I tried to use 40 pin with 4K, but it didn't light up. It may be soldering error, though. Need to check again with multimeter. Thanks 😄 I need to do mine first, haha. Goal is to make that 4k work. Since I tried it at my workplace, I didn't had time to check everything (like brightness control, etc). I really hope for that spare HP, it would make work much easier (yup, trying my luck at yet another bargain auction).

Many ways to use AI bro @Mr. Fox🥴 Gigabyte says ‘pay smarter’ and promotes Z890 & i5-14600K bundle LOL. The more they improve the better it will be😀 For my US friends. You need to learn the new name for the State you live in. What you have learned before is so damn wrong, LOL

IIt looks fun. f you have to enable TPM and Secure Boot I'm out. Very upsetting to me. BF6 will be the first in the franchise that I will never purchase because of that, but there is no way I am going to bend my knee to that sort of Nazi crap. They can kiss my butt. Does the game launch and run single-player campaign, or did they throw the baby out with the bath water and require their Micro$lop-sponsored anti-cheat cancer even for those that do not do online multiplayer?

This crap could drag on for decade or two before society moves on to something else and there is no tell the damage that will be inflicted till all said is done.

Curiosity got the best of me. Now I have to decide if I am going to keep it. I may not. I will decide after a few days whether or not it was actually worth buying. I am somewhat impressed but also disappointed. I have confirmed what I already believed as an observer: The value is poor. Side note: it never ceases to amaze me how insanely hot every single air cooled GPU is. Even when the core and memory temps are good, the heat just pours off of these things. Whether the GPU is modest or a monster, they all throw off heat like a stinking blast furnace. It amazes me even more that so many people (the majority) are OK with that. These are all stock core and memory clock runs with only the power limits maxed out. The 5090 really doesn't pull that much more power than the 4090. Both of them make the 1000W UPSes that each computer is attached to start squealing about having their capacity maxed out. What is interesting about all of this is yet further confirmation of a fact that I already knew. When I am just playing for the sake of playing and not paying any degree of attention to metrics for benchmark results, the gaming experience based on what GPU is being utilized is somewhat difficult to distinguish. All of them run smooth and everything is fluid and looks close enough to the same I would never know the difference. Even the now old 3080 Turbo with decent settings (as shown below) doesn't really feel all that different than the 5090. There is no question that we are being scammed more than we might care to admit.

That is really messed up. I am glad that it does not apply to me. I do not play by their effed up rules. They have no say in the matter as far as I am concerned. Screw 'em.

this. due to his always present agenda its difficult not to watch any of his vids and believe his "independent media" stance. sure, independent from external sponsors, but the motivation for bias in any kind of hardware testing or benchmarking is BIG when u offer these "optimization classes" for specific kind of CPUs/GPUs.

I watched Jay's video a couple of hours ago. He is right. Paying multiple hundreds of dollars more for a brand or "special" model GPU that has very little or nothing to offer that matters is so silly. Paying more for a fancier model or a certain brand makes less sense than it ever has before. Paying more for a GPU with RGB is sort of ironic because not having RGB rainbow puke is a valuable benefit to many of us. I think all of the GPUs (AMD, NVIDIA and Intel) that have no RGB are more aesthetically pleasing.

The A$uS tax is alive and well and even growing..... Top gear MSRP from Asus.... $450+ for an AIO.... $1k+ for a MB.... $700+ for a PSU $3359 for the Astral fits right into that pricing.... MSI is trying hard to be like Asus lately too with their pricing..... Damn right it is..... Still holding onto that SP109 14900KS because I know it can do 59/45/50 all day everyday for gaming on an AIO..... it has my 9070xt capped out in WoW at 1440p quite nicely on the wife's system. I'll probably never let it go and have it drive the wifey's system for quite some time. I might pick up an EVGA Dark Z690 or Z790 to fully complete her "Ode to EVGA" system when they are dirt cheap because I will say having run that 14900KS tuned on a Z790i lightning with TG 8400 DDR5 for quite some time tuned that DDR4 with the same 9070xt is now noticeably inferior even tuned 4000 CL15 or 4200 CL16 tight. --------------------------------------------- Dude is always hustling to sell his bundles or "PC Optimization classes" Monthly fees to join his discord.... Plenty of other tiers: $10/$20/$40/$75 per month $750/yr tier also gets you access to his PC Optimization class.... Or the class on its own for ~$400..... FC 48GB or 32GB DDR5 kits for $500..... $100 "another chance" to get unbanned from the community if you were banned.... MAX fps build lists with affiliated links.... $500 consults on your hardware..... Sheesh, dude is probably making a killing. Expect merch sooner than later on top of it. Still watch his videos though.... 🤣

I described my experience above, I did use a P5000 in a M6800 briefly to flash the vBIOS on it and I had no trouble with it being "discovered". @DynamiteZerg just joined up and he has a M6800 with a P5000 GPU (see posts above), apparently still in active use? It seems like it "should work" and I'm not sure what was going on in your case, if the GPU card wasn't actually dead. That said, any GPU upgrade beyond K5100M is an "unsupported" upgrade and brings the risk of unknown issues.