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Package on the way @1610ftw I may include the cat as an extra. 😂

Looks like I am the lone ranger on 9070 XT 3DMark 11 benching at the moment. The fact that the 9070 XT can handle these ray traced benchmarks without it turning into a slide show is a huge step forward for AMD. These scores are beating 3090 and 6900 XT scores soundly, and those were on chilled water. This is just maxed out fans and with the low-budget B850 mobo. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/5813158 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_sky_diver/submissions/5813198 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_fire_strike/submissions/5813197 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy/submissions/5813195 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_port_royal/submissions/5813193 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_solar_bay/submissions/5813191 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_steel_nomad_dx12/submissions/5813190 Hmm. I am going to have to re-run some of these on Winduhz 11 because some of the guys beating me are using that crappy OS. @Papusan are you ready to embrace Winduhz OS X for higher benchmark scores now? (I didn't think so. Me neither. Probably some deception and manipulation going on with that as the dangling carrot for the gamer children of the world.)

So I scored a Gigabyte 9070xt from BB that was delivered today. With discounts and rewards = $739 after tax. Not doing back flips over this one, but could be much worse. Can't wait to dig in on this one next week and run some tests with WoW in my known testing spots to see how it fairs against the 5080 and 4090 data. ---- I also snagged an Astral 5090 on BB Total price after rewards and discounts = 3403.46. Seriously on the fence about this one, lol. If the 10850k is your best CPU, that has to be the benching rig CPU with hopefully decent (>=3600) DDR4 sticks. I can't see regressing to a 9700F for a benching rig but that's just me. And it starts..... The march to an EK block..... 🤣

I played a bit of BF 2042 last night and the 9070 XT is boosting to like 3375, most of the time running 3100-3200 MHz. This is with a -0.060 undervolt and +10% power limit. Leaving it on stock defaults it is like 1.100V and rarely boosting to 3000. Definitely need to crack this thing open and see what I can do with the temps. Especially the memory. They've got the wrong pads or something. I haven't seen video memory temps this high since cryptomining with the 3090 KPE. 9070 XT handle BF2042 at 4K with maxed out settings without issue. FPS range from about 70 to 120 with an average of around 90 FPS.

I'm looking forward to your results! I always follow the X170 threads (along with NH55 of course) to see what new results pop up. I just know when all was said and done, I tested that 10900k against many off the shelf variants and 4 specifically targeted binned chips including an SP113 I borrowed for a few days and it was still better for laptop use. It was better stock IHS than all the others including the delidded ones. It was just a great chip in the X170SM-G. Last cash grab as the market normalizes to a degree and all the heavy hitters move out. Hmmm, who was it that said everything would settle down a bit by the end of April? 🤣 FOMO makes people do crazy things. Finally the Apex is arriving. I think what we've seen is latching onto a very valid reason (tariffs) and using that as a means to increase prices as much as possible even beyond and trying to at least touch off of scalper prices to maximize profits with the ability to lower costs when needed. I will be curious to see when sales drastically slow and prices have to come back down, how that suddenly "works" with tariffs still in play. I have no problems with AIBs charging as much as they want. It is up to the consumers to say no. I know for many, even $3k-$4k still isn't much to them as they spend much MUCH more elsewhere on their hobbies and leisurely pursuits but still.... As for the FE, it is compact and elegant. The fact you can slap a full tilt 5090 in a SFF 2 slot design is pretty awesome. It is not for those who want to overclock but want full 5090 power out of the box that isn't ginormous. It does run warm but well within spec and doesn't throttle. It is also priced the best easily at $1999.99. I fully get why it exists but also why certain segments have no desire for it. Yup, the early adopters with better spending/worse common sense are drying up along with a steady trickle of inventory coming in. You also have scalpers slowing down as it is past the "easy money" stage of the program. Monitoring a few stock bots, other brands are bringing cards to the market somewhat regularly too but they are usually snapped up pretty fast (or were). The real question will be how the market and companies respond going forward. -------------- Remember the outlandish prices for 5090 laptops announced? Discounts already on MSI and Asus models. Nobody in their right mind is going to pay those prices. On another note, I didn't realize MSI went with the 285HX in their Raider. I thought only the Titan was getting it so that's nice to see. Basically no real difference real world but still.... Unfortunately the 9950X3D variant for MSI is still sitting at $5099.99 atm, but we will see....

So, I think my next project will be to sell the Z790 Apex build before I change my mind and decide against it. I wish I could just sell the entire package preassembled with the MO-RA 360 and chiller. I'd probably keep the 4090 though. I'll probably end up having to sell it in pieces though, because there are no people that I know of locally that can appreciate the sheer wickedness such an insane beast can offer. I wish Brother @Rage Set did not live so far away. This morning I fired it up for the first time in a long time. I think 60 days or so since I turned on the three electrical outlets that power all of it. I ran an AIDA64 memory benchmark and 8600 with tight timings this monster still stomps the life out of everything else I own. I am going to have to turn everything back off before I start questioning why I built two Ryzen machines and have been ignoring this one. If I start using this again I will like the AMD builds less. Just web browsing and launching applications, everything feels so much snappier and lively than I remembered. It makes the Ryzen builds seem laggy and sluggish in comparison. The CPU is running crazy hot, so I am guessing the liquid metal has dried up or run off the die from it sitting idle and turned off for such a long time. (One of the unfortunate down-sides of having the motherboard vertical rather than horizontal is that gravity eventually wins. Horizontal orientation allows the die to perpetually bathe itself in a puddle of liquid metal.) What's funny is it never seemed loud when it was my main rig. Now having 27 fans and 5 D5 pumps purring away seems noisy even though it's not obnoxious and it is running at a very low decibel level. It just seems loud compared to the other more pedestrian Ryzen builds that have fewer moving parts. I also forgot how much cooler the 14900KS runs at an idle. Both of my 9950X CPUs idle about 12°C hotter and run hotter under load even though the 14900KS pulls a whole lot more watts than the 9950X CPUs do. Congrats to your mom on the new laptop. That's quite an upgrade for her. The leap in performance has to be nothing short of astronomical coming from such a tired and relatively slow 10-year old machine. I agree with you on OLED. I'm kind of a weirdo sometimes when it comes to paying high prices for things that don't make a computer run faster, but OLED just doesn't impress me. Too expensive with too little to offer in return, and I'm not into having to pamper a monitor to keep it from getting screen burn. Utter nonsense IMHO. Paying a lot of money for something comparatively fragile and destined to destroy itself is illogical to me. Even if that wasn't an issue, it's not worth the extra cost. Big bucks with little bang seems to be the new world we live in now. Brother @jaybee83 - this one is the one I would recommend. Both of mine are solid AMD kits. https://www.newegg.com/g-skill-32gb-ddr5-8000/p/N82E16820374624?Item=N82E16820374624

my 4090 feels offended by this....but is also quite impressed 😛 dude, i JUST finished my breakfast here! was planning to keep it down, mkay? 😄 oh cmoooon..... cant we just get ONE part theese days without the risk of it crapping out on us inside the first week/month/year? seriously...

Well, that is the driver I have installed already. But, your point is no less valid regardless. I seldom ever use current drivers because most of the time there is an older one that is better. This is how the PC tech landscape looks now. And, we're supposed to somehow be happy about it. They're full of what you see in this photo. It's what they sell and it's what they're doing to us all.

The 9070 XT beat the 4090 in this benchmark.

RTX5090 - Superposition 1080P - Global 5th🙂 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_1080p_xtreme/submissions/5812706 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_8k_optimized/submissions/5812711 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark11_-_performance/submissions/5812723?recalculate=true

ASUS COULDN'T AFFORD SEND WITH A FEW SCREWS FOR THEIR $3000 FLAGSHIP GRAPHICS CARD. But I got a useless badge/button intended for gamer kids with ROG stamped in gold on. Stupids. Yup, I had to use tape. So this won't look pretty. And the 55cm tubes is barely long enough to put the radiator on top of the big black box😎 Barely time for testing. Right now I haven't much time for this. The card have been in the box since I bought it. The tests is done with stock voltage. Not so sure putting the voltage slider to 100% or 1.100V will help much with the power cap from Nvidia. All above me have the XOC vbios and only for the chosen ones. And the worst part... Friends of the fab clockers get their XOC firmware. Yup, only for the chosen ones. Oh'well, the results is still ok with vanilla firmware and tape😎 https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_1b/submissions/5812214?recalculate=true https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/gpupi_v3.3_-_32b/submissions/5812213?recalculate=true

on a tangentially related note: i looooooooooooooooove Kirsten Dunst 😍 (and yes my wife knows 😛 😄) edit: back on topic, payment went through and received order confirmation from the french shop for the 5090 suprim 🙂 now to wait until the next batch of cards comes in, should be end of this / beginning of next week.

The Astral price is really steep! But these cards have a really good cooler which provides great temps and also really good clocks. I think the bios is pretty good on these Astral cards. Seems like Asus tried to release a solid product this go around that actually matched the extravagant price tag. I remember everyone including @Mr. Fox was complaining how terrible the 4090 Strix OC was and how it was overpriced gamer boy junk.. So at least the 5090 Astral gives you something, good cooling, looks cool, injured wallet, and high core overclocks. But it’s essentially still a 5090 at the end of the day. So I think you gotta determine if it’s worth the price. If I bought a 5090 Astral I’d probably keep it knowing me lol. It’s a very nice GPU. Then again, I really appreciate my 5090FE for $2,100 all in. I think with the VRAM size, and performance uptick in 4K heavy RT, it can straight whoop my 4090 by 50%. And if we use heavy up scaling with 4K, the gap REALLY grows. The 5090 memory bandwidth is strong. It’s nice we have so many options. Truth is, 4090 is so fast already it is more than enough juice. Heck, even my laptop 4090 is fast enough for majority of gamers. This 10900K can do low power 5.3Ghz, it was like 170-180 watts running R15. I want to say it could run 5.0Ghz with like 1.075v. I did very very minimal testing on it. I wish I could have ran it properly with a Z490 Apex on the test bench and chiller. My motherboard was a Z490 Aorus piece of crap to the max (I hated this board, I hate its bios and it was so horribly unstable) I had a 10850K SP84 that was direct die cooling, and on a massive multi-pump custom loop with external rad cooling which used 298 watts at 5.3Ghz, and this 10900K on a 360mm AIO “Not even delidded” would absolutely smash that thing! It was pure impressive how much better this 10900K was. Since I bought a 14900HX/4090 laptop, I didn’t need this 10900K system really. And it was just sitting in my living room. @electrosoft When I first saw the prices on 5090 MSI Laptops, I thought they have gotten super greedy man. And this is pure hilarious to see them now. 😂 I mean, what was MSI even smoking to begin with..Not sure who is paying 5K+ for a MSI Raider. It’s a really great machine. But buying a barely faster than a 4090 laptop rig. For thousands more is nuts.. Also, have you overclocked your 4090 machine yet? I seem to get about +1,000 on memory with mine, but I think that’s it. Also, I noticed if I hold my laptop off the table it drops 9C on GPU temp! No cooling pad or anything fancy. Just sitting my laptop on a cup in the table lifted about 5 inches off the table it drops a straight up 9C in game. 🤯

I'm so glad a board member picked it up especially @1610ftw. Hopefully he gives it a whirl in his X170SM-G to see how far it can flex especially compared to the SP101 I sold him that was my best sample I had including vs my golden sample like yours but your SP106 was rated higher I think than my LTX sample. --- And yeah, supply is trickling in steadily now but more importantly demand at those higher price points is waning fast. The fact those combo deals which aren't even that bad (Sub $3k w/ a z890 Motherboard) for a gigabyte shows something is going to have to give especially for perceived "B" tier cards. I'm thinking of cancelling my Astral 5090 pickup at the end of the week. I just am having problems stomaching a $3.5k 5090 purchase. I know it's an Astral and all that, but the price just seems crazy high. But on the other hand, Astrals have been binning pretty nicely overall but I know me and I'd be just as content with a $2k FE or a $2.2k PNY and keep it moving. I'll continue to mull it over mentally. 🤣 I could always just play with it and see if that justifies the purchase. I do have a 60 day return window but still that isn't realistic considering I have to pay for it within 30....

4th place Ungine Superposition on Hwbot and Ungine Leaderboard. Right below LN2 and XOC firmware. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/unigine_superposition_-_1080p_xtreme/rankings?cores=1&hardwareType=gpu https://benchmark.unigine.com/leaderboards/superposition/1.x/1080p-extreme/single-gpu/page-1

btw this comment is now making me consider buying like 5-6 kits and just keeping the best one 😄 RAM is currently quite cheap, actually.

yep thats what im counting on, it being the sticks. altho i was able to stabilize them at 7600 on my 7950X. i guess theres always an interdependency factor with the CPU IMC. in any case, for now im just gonna dial in the best i can with the current sticks and then focus on the 5090 first 🙂once i got some budget back from selling off parts ill reconsider getting new RAM. so much tuning / tinkering to do, so little time! 😄

Very strong possibility the issue is your sticks are crappy rather than the CPU. Out of more than a dozen returned memory kits I usually find one kit worth keeping. Also, be careful with 24GB sticks. The Apex might change things in this respect, but so far none of my Ryzen systems have played nice with 24GB modules and stability for more than RAM benchmark was never achieved. Intel eats the 24GB sticks like candy, but Ryzen chokes on them.

thx bud much appreciated! currently trying to get a stable baseline at 7600, from which i can extend my tuning again.

Here you go, brother. Hope this is helpful. Ooops, @jaybee83 and @electrosoft I forgot this one. I hope the firmware clown posse at A$$zeus puts this where it belongs in the primary memory timings section and not leave it buried in the AMD overclocking for idiots menus. You have to convert to hex for that menu. For now, this is the only way to set tRCDWR.

well technically that would qualify as a new tier between 5090 and 5080, say a 5080 Ti SuperDuper ROPless edition?! 😂 if its pricing is settled somewhere between 999 and 1999 then sure why not. in the end its all about pricing. so finally getting around to some tuning time with my 9950X3D. able to boot FCLK 2200, thats a good sign. havent checked for full stability yet, want to get a feel of the landscape firsr. at first i could only get 2133 to boot but was able to massage 2200 into booting via upping PLL and VDDG voltages. actually first time that upping VDDG did anything for me 😄 now doing quick n dirty boot tests for max DDR5 frequencies. see if im rather limited by the board, the sticks or the CPU IMC. lets see if i can finally get 8000 stable or maybe even 8200 to boot...fingers crossed boiz! oh and a quick update on my suprim 5090 order: shop got back to me and confirmed that next shipment from MSI should arrive at their shop beginning of april 🙂 that i can live with if its just +/- a week or so. just wanted to make sure its not several months or anything crazy like that.... edit: cool, just booted DDR5-8100 🙂 looks like they now have finer grained frequency steps starting with 8000. 8200 still no go, unfortunately. now lets see how far i can push FCLK 😄 edit 2: nope, topping out at 2200. now lets test for stability....

The board I have only does x8/x4 for CFX/SLI which is why I am not considering it for gpu benchmarking.

same reason you got urself a liquid cooled card: every little bit helps 😛 😄 especially with the 5090 thats running full tilt right outta the gate. itll definitely help with getting higher bins during oc. plus: its fun to tinker!😄 i think im gonna go the Duronaut route, first reviews are quite positive and see it maybe 1-2C away from LM: https://www.enostech.com/thermal-grizzly-duronaut-thermal-paste/ thanks for your input guys 🙂 i was indeed leaning against LM, but wanted to make sure.

Its unfortunate that now the king of the hill sets the prices for the entire product stack. Since both are publicly traded, they are legally obligated to seek profits for their respective organizations so even if AMD were to somehow produce 80-90% of the performance for 50% (or less) of the cost they would be obligated to price it accordingly or open themselves to lawsuits from their own investors. The only counter argument they could make is a desperate need to gain market share, but they could likely only make that argument for 1 release before investors get itchy for the next fiscal quarter I buy both vendors to suit the needs or desires I have at the time, but I still have my leanings. That being said I remembered this 10-20 second portion of a farewell video which leads to the real problem. Gamers buy nvidia regardless and AMD cant seem to market their products appropriately.

easy: numbers. they want the maximum amount of addditional prime subscriptions, and the number of buyers for the 70 class far outweighs the 80 and 90 class!

I wonder if other brands not having anything for sale is because they knew the cost was more than most are willing to pay? If they were smart, that could explain it. There would be little point from a business perspective in producing a grossly overpriced product that would move slowly and have lower demand because of unacceptable pricing.

There is no 5070Ti or 9700XT here home. People want those cards due cheaper price. For 5090... +34 cards available from Asus. Astral LC oc cost $3450 and the sales is low. Asus has reached the upper limits and above what people are willing to pay. No in hell I would pay more than the $3000 what I paid. Even that was too much. My best guess.... Asus need to reduce the prices to get them out from the stores. I see the same pattern with 5080 Astral ($1690). All too expensive and they are in stock here. +15 of them. And no cards from other brands. Still the sales is low for Asus. If there was cheaper cards from other brands.... I expect the more expensive options from Asus would stay in the store. Aka unsold. Having Halo products that don't move from the stores is bad publicity for the greedy company.

Aside from there being some weird "universal tdp" limit (example: RTX 3000 is 80w TDP. The card is only using 55w TDP while M3000M in primary is using 20-25w TDP.) This means there's some driver issue where both cards TDP is being calculated together. If I can fix that issue, the card can run at full power. Same issue affects M18xR1 with M2000M + RTX 5000. One way to get past this (just a theory for now) on Pascal would be to increase TDP by 25-30w on the card. I may test this with P4000. Anyways the secret is simple, SLI laptops have 2 MXM slots. Primary is used for any GPU that can run in M17xR2. (NO AMD cards, this causes no boot). Then secondary card is any card we can fit. In My case Adlink RTX 3000. Here's some preliminary results: M3000M seems to cause inverted colors issue same as 980M. I thought @Komputers-Best mentioned M4000M worked fine but my M3000M causes messed up colors with HP and Dell vBIOS. Going to try a M2000M next.

So interesting development today. I bought my mom a new laptop over the weekend since her old one was dying (had a good run though as it's 10 years old), and decided to do some tuning and benchmarking with it while setting it up for her. The Ryzen 9 HX 370 inside it is a powerhouse of a CPU when you max out the power limits. It benches higher than my 14900K, both in single core and multicore (specifically in Cinebench R15, which is the only version of that program I use for benching)! I also got rid of the windows 11 installation on it in favor of my trusty windowsxlite edition of windows 10 I really like for absolute maximum performance. In short, after doing some tuning to maximize performance, the system is extremely snappy, and my mom is loving it. She snaps her fingers, the laptop is done doing what she wanted it to. I also tuned the speakers to give a sound quality boost. All in all, the Asus Vivobook S 16 is actually a pretty good laptop for general users (but bleh BGA🤣). The integrated graphics in this thing are pretty powerful too, I mean you can actually game on this thing! Even though the laptop isn't for me, since I bought it, I might as well have some benching and overclocking adventures while I'm setting the thing up. 🤣 However, this isn't even the most interesting part. This laptop has a really nice, glossy OLED screen, so I decided to do a side by side comparison to the screen installed in my Clevo X170SM-G. The verdict? Holy crap, my X170's screen is almost just as good as an OLED. I did not realize just how close to OLED level quality it was, which I was not expecting. So basically, rip off the stupid matte antiglare layer, increase color saturation a bit (from 50% to 70%), and now your IPS display looks like an OLED screen (yes, I modded my X170's screen by removing the matte anti glare layer, so it's a glossy IPS screen now). The OLED screen on the Vivobook was kind of underwhelming when I tested it out some more. I mean, it's a super sharp 3.2K screen, but it suffers from black smearing? What? I thought OLEDs were supposed to have near instantaneous response times! It doesn't look like that's the case though as this OLED display gave me PTSD of me using my Dell S3422DWG VA panel, which has very heavy black smearing that I absolutely hate. The black smearing on the Vivobook's display isn't as bad, but it's still there, and my X170's IPS display has no black smearing whatsoever. If anything, my X170's IPS display feels much more responsive than the OLED display in the Vivobook. Granted, my X170's display is a 300 Hz display vs the 120 Hz display in the Vivobook, but OLED is supposed to have sub millisecond response times. It doesn't look that way to me at all, as sub millisecond response times should mean no black smearing. So I guess OLEDs aren't the juggernaut the hype is making them out to be. Couple that with the expiration date on OLEDs, and I no longer want one. I'll just go with glossy IPS thank you very much. IPS seems superior in every metric except image quality, which it can almost match OLEDs if the IPS display is also glossy and you tune your color saturation, so good enough for me. Just goes to say, don't fall for the hype on any technology. Always do your own comparisons and testing, because sometimes the reviewers are just flat out wrong, just like how people keep saying there is no performance difference between windows 11 and windows 10. Uhh... yeah there is. I did my own benchmarking and get 20% higher framerates on windows 10, so I call BS. I'm now calling BS on the hype on OLEDs too. I'm glad I did not buy one, and now I no longer plan to buy an OLED display for my desktop. I'll just have to find an IPS display that has the matte anti glare layer glued on top of the polarizer layer instead of infused into the polarizer so I don't destroy the screen when removing the matte layer. Either that, or I'll have to find another way to glossify my Asus XG309CM monitor.

I'm sure it will be fine🙂 But I expect you also will see this is an awful deal for +$3000. The value you get for your money is damn bad. Checked Asus US Store. Asus have finally increased the prices for the Astral LC from 3409 to $3719,99 or $350 USD🙄 Yep, the old price was too cheap. Consumers mostly avoid scalpers on market places. Now you can't avoid it anymore if you want Asus cards. 186% above MSRP😲 https://www.asus.com/us/motherboards-components/graphics-cards/all-series/filter?Category=NVIDIA&Spec=354488 The ROG Astral 5080 starts to look damn cheap with the awful $1,649.99 price tag.

Binning is Winning especially when you're trying to push beyond factory specs (which is really all you're guaranteed).

It seems like most all AM5 owners (including me) that have them are having the best success with G.Skill Trident Z5 Neo EXPO F5-8000J3848H16G kits. The G.Skill Trident 8000 and TeamGroup Extreme 8200 48GB XMP kits that I have are super stable on Intel but they are not totally stable on the Gene or the AORUS boards. The 16GB G.Skill 8000 Neo kits are very stable in comparison. So far I haven't seen anyone on AM5 that is getting great results with the 24GB sticks. I am hoping the Apex changes that because I have a TeamGroup Xtreem 8200 48GB kit I would love to be able to use in it.

Yes, everyone talks nice about their baby. That's normal🙂 Astral OC 5090 - 4th fan sounds almost like a saw I haven't had much time with the card. But I'll probably keep it. Still sad seeing Asus isn't close to Galax regarding offer the premium experience for their flagship. Galax (KFA2 for Europe market) prioritizes Asia and only offers 5090D cards. I will still prefer 5090 above the China models. So yup, I will most likely keep the card. But it will never be a collector item (should not be this way when you know this is the best they can offer). The US ban destroyed Galax/KFA2 flagship as option for everyone outside China. It's what it is. A broken tech industri. New batch of 5090's were put up for sale today. They all sold out in no time.

Asus did address the harmonics issues with the fourth fan with a vBIOS update but I get your point. For a company that charges such an asus tax, you would expect HOF levels of perfection and we're just not getting it. It's frustrating. What I find frustrating from Asus is they hit it out of the park with their GPU Tweak software and pin monitoring and to a level their build quality, but then fail cutting costs everywhere and charging so much more overall vs MSRP. I would think it would be the ram, but it is TG which is usually pretty solid and it is rated at 8200 but still it *could* the ram. It could also be your board as alluded to before being a 2DPC board that is stalling it with issues >=7600. I know the stupid $80 1DPC Asrock board bested my 2DPC Carbon pretty easily for 8000+. Physics can not be defeated. Reason 4090 was so much better than the 3080ti mobile was the node shrink. Keeping the same node means there's only so much you can do with a 175w envelope and there was no way you were going to see a major performance bump. Then laptop makers decide to insanely bump prices prices into the stratosphere for the 5000 series......

shoot, unfortunately nothing new that i hadnt considered before setting-wise. couldnt stabilize 7600 for the life of me, so i abandoned that route for now and focussing on 1:1 settings. able to boot 6600 but not stable, so currently getting a 6400 baseline. if this works out, itll give me more of a perf. boost than going 2:1 at sub-7600. im also considering getting a new RAM kit to check my options there. either a regular G.Skill 8400 kit or G.Skill CKD 9600 (although the latter aint supported in CKD mode on AM5 and its double the price of the former 😄), maybe that could give me more of an edge with this CPU/board combo. you and me both @Suprim loving 😄 ill be starting back at work after my parental leave this tuesday and both my lady and lil princess are planning a trip to the grandparents for two weeks at the end of april / beg of may. means ill be home alone for TWO FULL WEEKS. as long as the Suprim reaches me in time before that, its gonna be gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood 😎 unhindered tuning / tinkering time for daddy 😄 as for the X870E Extreme....soooo Wifi7 and a new colorful display? welp im planning to upgrade my wifi module soon anyways, so COLOR me unimpressed (pun intended 😛) still gonna check out the reviews and detailed spec list once available. in any case, STILL gonna call you Hero folks PEASANTS mwahaha 😄

It is harder that ever to expect good things from A$$zeus or their competitors. What makes the A$$zeus clown posse particularly corrupt is how they charge significantly more (often 50 to 75% more) for their uniquely-stupid broken trash. That makes it harder than ever to have any respect for them. I'm happy that you got what you wanted, albeit at an astronomical price. I'm sad that the quality and performance are not aligned with the 70% penalty assessed for being a loyal A$$zeus customer. Have you identified any legitimate reason or benefit for paying the loyalty tariff?

Astral flexing some seriously nice clocks there @Papusan! I haven't seen a bum Astral (air or LC) yet really. I don't think I can resist the allure of my BB order. 🤣 @tps3443 what kind of clocks/scores are you getting with the 5090 FE in comparison? @jaybee83 can't wait to see some Suprim loving up in here! All roads lead to Rome. Our 2nd / terts are very similar, but my primary are based around 2200/6400 vs G2(4), nice! ---- @jaybee83 x870e crosshair Extreme if you want to upgrade and continue to address us peasants with Hero only 🤣 https://videocardz.com/pixel/asus-rog-crosshair-x870e-extreme-motherboard-has-been-pictured

Gigabutt released a new BIOS and fixed the contextual help/hint text being the wrong language. It seems to run exactly the same. They didn't provide a menu option for disabling the WiFi7/BT module like I asked them to. So stupid that there is no way to disable the module.

This is a killer jam. the last 5 min are etherworldly!

Hello everyone, I am AnthonyBF2. I love to modify and upgrade any kind of old laptop. I've done so many times, and today I wanted to join the forum and show off one of my favorite and successful projects that I did from a year ago. I plan to share a lot more laptop mod threads in the future. A few years ago I became fascinated with NVIDIA ION netbooks, something about them feels special or unique and they are good for running old games. Today we will install a USB hub inside of the ASUS EEE PC 1215N which allow us to permanently install any number of accessories inside of the computer. The primary advantage of doing this is to eliminate external clutter and keep the outside USB ports available for more important accessories. Some of the possible accessories you can potentially use inside of the computer with this setup include: - Modern Bluetooth Device - Modern WIFI Device - Xbox One Controller Receiver - Xbox Series X/S Controller Receiver - Other Controller Receivers (etc Logitech) - USB Flash Drives To begin, we will need the following, VERY specific items: - Asus EEE PC 1215N - Samsung 870 EVO SSD (1TB/500GB/250GB) - Walmart Brand "ONN" USB Hub - Screwdriver Kit - Pliers - mini-PCIE USB Card This first photo shows everything we will be working with: https://i.imgur.com/bQ7d7PY.jpeg The first step is to disassemble the USB hub and separate the plastic shell away from the electronics, like this: https://i.imgur.com/J3a6g3P.jpeg The next step is to use pliers to remove a small plastic tab on the USB hub, like this: https://i.imgur.com/VT4xg3W.jpeg The next step is to disassemble the SSD and separate the protective shell away from the drive, like this: https://i.imgur.com/hX9gzzz.jpeg The next step is to tear down the 1215N and remove the palm rest, keyboard, metal mid frame, HDD, and unplug the flat cable: https://i.imgur.com/gG5cEH1.jpeg The next step is to use pliers to remove one of the "legs" from the mini-PCIE USB card, like this: https://i.imgur.com/njAOLdD.jpeg The next step is to carefully remove two little clips from laptop frame AND reposition the CMOS battery, like this: Before: https://i.imgur.com/Eb1tvVr.jpeg After: https://i.imgur.com/umDDYfB.jpeg The next step is to connect everything and position everything in a very specific location, which includes: - Replacing the WIFI card with the USB card - Plugging the naked USB hub into the USB card - Using double sided adhesive to hold the naked USB hub on the laptop frame - Plugging the naked SSD into the SATA port - Using *something* to hold the SSD in place so it doesn't fall out (I am using sticky rubber bumpers) - Plugging the flat cable back into the computer This next photo shows how everything should look at this point: https://i.imgur.com/P4tdSVy.jpeg As a test, I purchased a brand new USB WIFI device and 3X USB 32GB drives, like this: https://i.imgur.com/dwJUa0C.jpeg This photo shows the new accessories plugged in: https://i.imgur.com/3JoIOxB.jpeg This next photo shows that all of the new accessories are working in Windows 7: https://i.imgur.com/jtOZC9t.jpeg This last photo shows how I organized the sticky rubber bumpers to secure the SSD: https://i.imgur.com/LvwrZIs.jpeg And that is the end, now the 1215N can have a new life, depending on which accessories you want to add. You may use another kind of SSD or USB hub but those devices must be very small and you will need to get creative with the positioning of those devices. I cannot confirm if any of this works on the AMD variant 1215B model, but it should since it has the same guts. It took me a really long time to find a 1215N for sale, and to this day, I never saw a 1215B for sale. Cheers and thanks for checking this out!

Both Astral air and 5 of the 9 LC models are gone already from St Davids. If I had drove up there, the Astral air models would have been gone and my only option would be the TUF or Astral LCs.....I would have left mad. 🤣 Market forces will normalize. Like I said, most in the OC thread are getting their 5090s by now. Some even have multiples. Stock watchers I track are constantly going off for 5080s and 5070s like crazy non-stop. Nvidia knows AMD is competition in that sector. 9070xt stock watchers also go off like crazy. 5090s go off sporadically.

Yeah, those were up before and on Newegg. Pass. Hehe, but of course.... ----- St Davids has been open for almost two hours and they have 3 Asus 5090 models in stock still. These will probably sell by end of day, but the first month+, they never even made it to in stock status selling out immediately. Like I said, levels are slowly going to start normalizing sooner than later. The heavy hitters are going to start fizzling out sooner than later and most aren't going to pay these prices. Pre-builts in stock in abundance on Newegg and Best Buy..... Crapton of over inflated Astrals and other cards languishing on eBay and/or readily available sub $5k now. 5090 Founders sub $4k and falling..... End of April/Beginning of may prediction is coming on strong. I loved my 4090 Liquid, but swapping it for testing into other systems was such a PITA plus I run my rig totally open now so the benefits of direct exhaust are negated. FE = Price + aesthetics Suprim = MSI and past love Astral = Top dog monitoring and matches my Hero along with aesthetics I find myself gluttonously leaning towards the Astral now.....MC is over an hour away, so it would be a race to get there before either of the two Astral air cooled models sold out. That's the only one that tickles my fancy (along with an FE or Suprim).

You should grab an Optimus pad for your 5090 backplate. You’ll see big temp gains. Less messy than putty.

yes of course, naturally 😛 still better than nothing with no additional data available 😄

Too many variables at play doing that. I like testing from one source on a similar platform testing a compound against many others but this is better than nothing. 🙂

Did they test Duronaut against anything else except those three? I'd like to see it up against KPx or Kryonaut Extreme at least.

I agree with @Papusan and do not think using liquid metal will be very beneficial on the GPU overclocking. This made more sense on laptops that had much weaker cooling systems and run much hotter under the most ideal conditions due to their physical limitations affected by form factor, thermal dissipation capacity, sloppy parts fitment and engineering defects. I think the benefit of liquid metal on a desktop GPU would be negligible in terms of increasing overclocking potential. I am planning to use PTM7950 when I take apart the 9070 XT. That is your best solution to have a one-and-done durable TIM. That may come at a cost of 3-5°C higher temperature with the PTM7950, which is not going to get you very far.

Asus is worse than I thought. Msi air cooled card run quite cool. And you won't gain any extra boost bins going with liquid metal. Why bother for 3-4C colder temp? Just run it as is and see how it goes (acceptable noise vs the performance target). Edit. https://www.igorslab.de/msi-geforce-rtx-5090-suprim-soc-im-test-wenn-das-gramm-einen-euro-kostet-und-die-fe-in-den-schatten-stellt/4/