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Does rebar and Intel application Optimizer work with Windows 10?

Was the Titan not fast enough? What made you want to put a 2080Ti in that system? Im building my daughter a pc very soon. I have these parts for her build. So I will have 3 rigs in the family. 😃 Asus Z690 Hero, this is the re-released 2022+ model without the defects that prior 2021 units had. And also some Gskill 2x16GB DDR5 5600. I am going to get a cpu and gpu next. Ideally I’d like to get another chip like my son’s pc. He has a 12900KS, and he loads the system to the moon, and I never hear him speak of any slow downs 🤣 Edit: Actually, I might not put a GPU in her PC. She plays Roblox and Sims 4. So I really think an overclocked iGPU and some good system ram would suit her needs.

We can turn off Enhanced TVB, and it removes the 1.450V limit. Then it’s just like any bios. New bios is working great so far though. I have not had any surprises but a very low power and very cool running chip.

No I’m not delidding this one. This chip does alright. Low power and low voltage at 5.9/4.8/5.0R. 1.225v load Vmin R23. Battlefield 2042 with 128 players at 4K@120hz is 120-130 watts CPU power in the map. I have not tried stock E-Cores on this bios. But other bios 5.9P/4.5E/5.0R is usually 288 watt R23 with 1.208V Vmin. 5.9P/4.5E/4.5R is like 1.190v. If you don’t run XMP or OCed ram you can get it down a bit more. My R-Batch at 5.9P/4.8E/5.0R was 1.234-1.243v (No delid) And about 16-17 watts more power. The biggest difference for me is the stronger IMC on this KS chip though. Memory controller is gold.

Yeah I’m gonna try that TF9. I bought a big container of Kryonaut Extreme. Well it’s actually a tiny tub. But it’s like 33 grams worth of it. It was when Titan Rig or one of these other shops had it on sale for $89.99 and it was like $76 with a discount code. But I believe my wife threw it away on accident. We have been tossing some stuff getting ready for the move.

I am trying to make it fit in that 320 watt door way. But her butt is just a little too wide. Close enough though. Stock ram, cpu, besides E-Cores, and ring. So, 5.9-6.2P/4.8E/5.0R 8200xmp. Vmin is around 1.225-1.230. I would say E-SP82 on a 14900KS is pretty decent. No delid here at all. I think if I did put this on direct die, it would be some crazy crazy numbers. Definitely would do 5.0E easily. Also, my VID's are not as high, because my ring is not at 5.3Ghz. When you step the ring up that high the VID's go with it. But, I primarily just care about the load voltage. Anyways, just doing some power testing on bios 2503 and new microcode.

Glad you said something, or else I would have bought some and tried it out for sure. Everyone has been going crazy over this stuff a little while back. I think this "Phase pad" has had its "Phase"

I updated to 2503 Apex bios and the new 0x129 microcode, I did not get to mess with it that much. I did some basic testing on it. But I switched back to my other bios position on the Apex. And once you switch back to the other bios switch, it goes right back to the old microcode 0x123 lol. I thought it would keep and carry over the new microcode. But it keeps it where my bios position #1 9901 is 0x123, and bios position #2 is 2503 and 0x129. And I am going to keep it this way. I use one side for new updated microcode and testing new bios. And I have my other position for tried and true older bios older microcode. 😃

You guys think I’d see similar or better performance if using a ptm7950 thermal paste/pad on my cpu? Currently using Kryonaut Extreme. But I’d like to switch to something better for long term.

Have you tried dropping IVR TX? This always had such a big impact for me on. Seems like there is a range that these chips seem to like much more compared to auto IVR TX. Using 1.270-1.320V. Lower is usually better, but too low might not post windows. And then I’d set “PLL termination” to 1.100V. You probably have to search for it in the bios, I always forget where the heck it’s at. But setting the 1.100V PLL Termination voltage would make my memory require much less VDD/VDDQ voltage. Now it seems like it’s a 50/50 if it will work or not. But when it does it is really cool. Like imagine needing 1.600V VDD, with the auto default 1.050V PLL Termination voltage. But setting 1.100V, and now you may only need 1.450V or something weird like that. My last R-Batch didn’t respond to PLL termination @1.100V. But my current chip does at higher frequencies. I was able to drop 8800c38 from 1.560v to 1.520v. But, there’s more range I think, I just haven’t re-checked stability with a lower VDD. Anyways, these platforms are wild on DDR5 OC. All these chips acts so different in what they like.

That dude annoys me so bad. And he really does act like that lol.

Where’s the chiller and the tank at? We can make it a little thicker. 🤣

Yes I scraped all of the Kryonaut that has been pressed out from prior contact and kept it on the scraper just in case, if it performs good I’ll just throw it away. But since it didn’t, I respread it all back on the cpu after I cleaned it. I am still using the same waterblock. It works very well. I don’t believe anything available will out perform it besides my Supercool Gen13 DD. But I can’t exactly use that one.

Man this walmart paste is the WORST!!! 12-13c hotter package temp while incorporating a 0.5-0.6c warmer water temp as well. (chiller was just about to cycle when I started recording on the Walmart paste) but it’s like half of a degree, both water temps are 15c. This stuff absolutely sucks!!! 💀 PS: The Kryonaut paste was “Re-scraped and re-used as well. “I ran out of fresh” so it’s ABC paste, or “Already been chewed”

Looks great. I’m playing around with latest bios and microcode right now. I never did try 0125. Just went to 0129 late last night.

Okay, I loaded the new microcode 129 and 2503 Apex bios on my other bios switch. If this bios sucks, I’ll just swap back over and drag the new microcode with me to my 9901 bios.

Yeah, I’m not too worried about it, my 13900KS and 14900KF were both outstanding, and stood up to the test on this Apex with no loss in ability. So I won’t fix what ain’t broken. Very happy with how it is right now. 😃 I did have one CPU that dropped off on me though. And that was my 13900K (SP110 Global P121/E88) It was crazy strong when I first installed it on my MSI Z690 Unify-X. After just a couple hours achieving a stable profile, it had lost a significant edge in ability in what it could do (This was using fixed vcore and fixed frequencies “No single core boost”) Me & The Z690 Unify-X “Went to its ass” I don’t know what happen for sure, but I remember the day well, But that’s the only chip that’s ever degraded on me, and that was on an MSI Z690 board. It was fine for several hours, then out of no where I get the “Out of GPU memory” errors. Increasing the vcore fixed it. The chip was still amazing afterwards. But it lost like 0.020mv-0.030mv+ just like that. I was going heavy on it, 1.330+ load volts I was testing for 5.8Ghz and 5.9Ghz all core, and pushing 6.0Ghz all core with 1.340-1.350v load (No delid). Heavier amperage 280-300+ range. And that was what it took (I was running Battlefield at these speeds and voltages). I was using LLC6 and LLC7 mostly as well. Well for MSI I think it was LLC2 and LLC3. I knew what I did though 💀 and this was like the 6th chip at this point that I had tested on this MSI board. But I was really digging in to that P-SP121. Anyways, when the KS came out I wanted one, and I stayed away from too high of amperage, and too high voltages since. Never had any issues. I’ll hammer SVID’s to the roof so long as the amps are low. But keep the vcore low when the amps are high. And this has worked.

I’ve always ran all of my chips like this since 13900K. I am nearly 600 hours on this current chip right now. 😃 I have power limits in place, amperage limits in place, temp limits in place. And full load voltage never exceeds 1.208V. Never had any degrade on me.

I am going to cook mine down for sure then! (Kidding I set a 1.550V limit) and it’s not too low for 6.5Ghz boost “Close though” while at work it’s pretty FAST! The top end on these chips is CRAZY.

I’m not sure if I will upgrade my microcode, but I can set a VR max of 1500mv in my bios which should resolve any potential issues.

Yeah, and using Windows balanced power mode has shown higher numbers for me in this TS cpu test. 🤷‍♂️ One more thing, Timespy physics score is very sensitive to stability as well. If your CPU isn’t getting fed enough juice, or is not completely stable, I have seen it score lower. I remember spending an entire day running just TS cpu test and trying different thing. Just another one of those weird things with Win11 I guess.

Full auto stock is the way to go! I have tested overclocked CPU vs stock CPU and the trade-off mostly is just extra power, I truly believe any KS will slam down most of the higher end 13900KS chips, my SP99 was pretty amazing at 5.9 even though it had the 1.447v 5.9 vfcurve 🤭. I always explore all voltage options with these CPU's for benching and for fun though. But Adaptive/Auto is the way for me and no delidding, something about removing the IHS makes me feel like I ruined the chip or something, I regretted delidding that R-batch, and I really just wanted to get back to stock soldered chips. As for my VFcurves, my current P122/E82 chip is 1.378v for 5.9Ghz.

What exactly does this ME do? Does it limit our max voltage? I’m almost afraid to mess with it.

This retail sp108 USA made 14900KS is a true mad dog. The IMC is beyond anything I have ever owned or tested, and so is the ring. You can bench with 5.5Ghz ring on this chip if you want. I do not feel the need to really overclock the P/E cores much if at all. Since 5.9Ghz is fantastic. With no delid, the load vcore is 1.208v with the ring at 5.3Ghz. This CPU is not delidded either. It runs so good right out of the box. This below is DDR5 8800c38 with only 1.540V vdd. I am going to keep pushing the voltages and improve even further. But this works totally fine as a daily setup. Really a cool CPU though. One of the most well rounded I have owned besides my old 11900K. This is a reincarnation of that it seems. I really love this chip, and I had to say it! I may just skip next gen Intel. 🙂

I think it’s time to skip a generation. Let’s pay the credit cards back down to zero. No more new toys for me lol. Now, I appreciate the extra Intel CPU warranty on my 14900KS. But if something happen to this chip, getting another would be kinda tough.