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I’d be okay running my GPU at Gen5 x8 lanes. I think it would be equivalent to Gen4 x16. But I’m not running Gen4 x8 lanes.

I always thought our best Gen3 and Gen4 drives today are not all that great. They sell us on some write-speeds that are not realistic. Maybe realistic for transferring a large single file type like a video. But using these drives for real world stuff, like extracting files, extracting apps made up of hundreds of different tiny file types, transferring large game files from one Gen4 to another Gen4 is very slow and tedious. One good example of this would be downloading and extracting R24. It is very slow even on a 2TB Gen 4 drive. This becomes even worse when transferring large games that are 10-20GB or maybe even 200GB made up from thousands of tiny files. I think we need better/faster than this. I can download the file in 10 seconds but wait 10 minutes to extract it lol. And it's a fairly smaller file 1.3GB in size. Now I am kind of curious how a Gen5 M.2 would handle the R24 extraction process. 🙂

So is waterchilling an M.2 maybe becoming a useful thing now? 🤣 I’ll probably keep this Apex and 14900KS for a while. So I will swap to Gen5 M.2’s when I have a Gen5 PCIe supported graphics card. Our motherboards have Gen5 PCI-e support. But using a Gen5 M.2 will only let our GPU’s run at X8 lanes. I think X8 Gen 5 would be satisfactory.

My first attempts at stabilizing 8600C38 "Tighter Timings" with only 1.470V VDD/ 1.450V VDDQ 🥰. I'm going to guess and say 1.450V VDD will pass as well. (Have not tried yet) But this IMC is freakishly strong. I am finally in a place where my ram IC silicon quality will be at play for sure. Ram Kit: G.Skill 2x24GB 8200@1.350V M-Die DDR5@ 8600 Timings@ CL38-49-49-49-84 131,071K tREFI VDD: 1.470V VDDQ 1.450V Bandwidth and latency are really good considering the CPU is 100% stock, and the ring is still only at 4.5R 😄 This is usually a good sign. In my experience strained IMC's will usually show not so good performance.

Man, I really want to try new Intel 15th Gen 285K Ultra when that drops. But I highly doubt I will be coming off of my current setup anytime soon. Apex A04/14900KS/DDR5 8600. It’s too dang good right now. The speed/stability/reliability aspect is pure golden.

OLED will ruin other panels visual appeal like IPS/TN for sure. I might be down sizing when I move, and it’ll probably be something like a 32” 240hz oled. I have complete faith in the technology though.

Nearly 1,700 hours of screen on time with this 2021 OLED 48” monitor now. I’m amazed by Oled still. I’d confidently recommend any OLED monitor/TV nowadays especially. I am using the MSI A1000 (Little dinky thing it is). I bought it from the MSI store for a pretty good price. The new car smell on these is so strong it almost smells like burned electronics lol. VERY strong smell. It had my whole house smelling like that. I’m amazed that I’m using this 1,000 watt baby PSU though. It has been extremely reliable, everyone was laughing at its size on here if I’m not mistaken. It powers my entire PC and cooling setup. (5) D5 pumps, (0) fans, 14900KS, Apex, and 4080 Super Suprim X. I’ve had absolutely no problems with it, even with extreme 6.1P/4.9E benching I did on my prior chip with direct die. This little thing is a beast! It’s an MSI so no complaints. Bonus pic of my two kittens by accident. They are brother and sister. 🤣 On another note, I have to add this in. That big expensive EVGA 1300P+ unit was a screaming coil whining mess. This dinky MSI 1,000 is completely silent and surprisingly it’s a better product. No matter how large of a load or what game I am playing I have zero electrical noise when moving my mouse, or when gaming anymore. Just stability, and no noise. I put the 1300P+ in my son’s build since his RTX3060 12G doesn’t make it scream. 😎

I think with the price of GPU's. It is worth repairing them! Even if it's a $200-$400 dollar repair. You are going to spend way more buying another 7900XTX anyways. Anyways, check this out everyone. This DDR5 8600 with 1.400V is definitely stable. 8600@1.400v is so impossibly hard to run. Never owned a chip that can actually do this.

I’ll be grabbing a used 4090, or probably a RTX5080 I guess they’ll still be like $1500 lol.😂

These 14900KS chips are true Lava Monsters when paired with traditional cooling. But they can be tamed down nicely without actually taming it down. This stock 14900KS idles at 10 watts, and loads up at 290 watts. Even with DDR5 8600 and 6.2Ghz boost, using auto voltage and LLC4. It is very efficient for an Intel chip, even compared to AMD I think it’s still pretty crazy efficient for its performance it puts out. 😎 Chiller rarely cycles when working during the day. It’s quite nice!

Over here enjoying this 14900KS. Great dang chip have about 40 hours on it. I’m going to share some screens momentarily here, but so far I have it setup with 5.9Ghz (8P) 6.2Ghz (2P) all auto voltage, LLC4, ACLL 0.20/DCLL 1.00 the E-Cores are at 4.5Ghz stock, and even with a 320 watt power limit set in the bios, it doesn’t go past 290 watts in Cinebench R23 or 239 amps 🤯 and that’s with DDR5 8600 and 1.400v vdd/vddq set in bios. The VID’s are set perfect, so it essentially idles and boost to 6.2Ghz with 1.350’s VID’s sitting in desktop, and under heavy load it drops to 1.190’s matching the load vcore. 😃 CPU temp says 60C max, but cpu package temp is actually 68C. It feels like my R-batch but with better IMC, and maybe a little more temp resistant up top in the 6Ghz range since it’s not delidded and all.

I tried a few. Thermalright, Bequiet, thermal grizzly. They can all last months and months, and after like 3-4 months the performance just fades a little bit but still okay. But when it eventually fails you lose that solid stability, and that day will always be a surprise visit out of the blue lol. The failure can be closing to desktop when gaming, or other random stability issues. Then you have to pull the chip and prep everything again with some Flitz and possibly sand paper if it’s really bad. This was one of the main reasons for selling my R-Batch. Now, I think Liquid Metal and ambient water is totally fine. But with 15C water it just fails really fast. Never seen a 13900K do that well before! Thats faster than a stock 14900KS 😂

This chiller helps a lot but not nearly as much as direct die does. With a rad only, my cpu would only be 10c warmer. So I could still run 5.9/4.8 easily and be 78-79C package on normal ambient water without a delid or direct die. I tested this on my R-Batch, and this SP108 has a really low 5.9 Vmin for a soldered chip, lower than my R-batch when it was soldered. You might even be able to hulk it to 6Ghz if you don’t mind 89-90C temps and higher voltage lol.

Yeah the maintenance is higher on Supercool or any direct die with daily chiller+LM. But its temps are just insanely good no doubt. 5.9Ghz would be 50C cpu package temps with my supercool in R23 using direct die. I considered thermal paste on direct die, but now I felt I’m going backwards now. Stock solder is supposed to be better than thermal paste 😁. The only thing direct die and Liquid Metal will give me is a 15C cooler CPU. And +100Mhz. I can run either of these KS chips, and my R-Batch at 6.0P/4.8E with no delid, and still stay in the 70’s on CPU package. I think that’s pretty good.

Yep I always ran 8400/8533 with tight timings it performs really good. But the main reason why was because my prior chip(s) could not run 8600 with tight timings. This chip will be worked up to a 8600 tight profile. As for moving away from direct die. I just don’t need it. Liquid Metal on 15C water daily doesn’t last very long. So it requires maintenance every 1-3 months. I can run either of these 14900KS chips at 5.9Ghz(8P) 6.2Ghz (2P) with a load voltage of (1.190 higher SP chip) OR (1.208V lower SP chip) The package temps are substantially warmer than direct die. But the CPU is still only 67-68-69C like this in Cinebench. The solder and my mount is good for a very very long time. Chiller and Liquid Metal daily usage breaks down and etches badly and doesn’t hold up worth a dang. I have always had this problem, and I’m just tired of dealing with it.

I had to share this! I have been trying to run such settings for some bit now. DDR5 8600 with only 1.400 vdd/vddq set in bios!! (NOT 1.450vdd, NOT 1.435VDD but only 1.400V! 🥲 (All done on my G.Skill 8200 sticks) Its crazy how a really good IMC directly determines how good your ram is and how low the ram voltage can be set. This is such a nice little chip. I love it. Glad to be back on solder. 😎

Pretty nice run @Mr. Fox I get exactly 8,020 with my 4080 Super on Vulkan API.

I appreciate the kind words! I’m not testing anymore chips. I’m absolutely good with this one. Finding one better could happen, but also having a similar IMC like this one does probably won’t happen, and also no SA bug. Calling it quits on anymore KS chips lol. Im going to look in to the free game. Thanks!

After the “Silicon Gods” saw me having a blast with a SP99, they were furious and had no choice but allow an SP108 to slip through I suppose 🤷‍♂️. (I really feel like if I had been anxiously awaiting what their SP rating would be, or overly worried about it, I doubt either would have been very good though) But I really didn’t give it much thought. I was going to test about (3-4) 14900KS all for fun. And maybe keep the most well rounded one. EDIT: The chip runs DDR5 8600 with only 1.450vdd. It passes a quick (3 cycle) testmem5, with 131k tREFI, very surprised about this.

This is all pics of the 2nd 14900KS I got from Amazon today. Was pretty surprised. I honestly did not care what SP it was. No SA bug, great IMC, and nice P/E cores.

Make sure to test it with Vulkan API, it scores higher in Vulkan. 🤷‍♂️ Not sure why.

Hey you Don’t call my SP99 a junker! Thats my baby! JK!! It’s a total junker 🤣 Yeah this SP108 ain’t bad it doesn’t have a SA bug like the SP99.

This is the SP108. The vfcurve img is the link below. 5.9 is 1.378v https://imgur.com/YZcsE5M

I think I got lucky! My 2nd 14900KS from Amazon was a SP108. 😂

I am doing a little 14900KS binning for fun. I’ve got to say though, I’m impressed by the SP99 KS chip lol. Insanely good IMC its an MCSP 82, very strong P Cores with 5.9+ of course, It could not touch my R batch which to this day will still do (5.7Ghz (8P) (6.0Ghz 2P)/4.4E XMP 8200@1.110V load (Even while re-lidded) and 238 watts R23. Anyways, I have another 14900KS that will be here tomorrow. And if it has a weak IMC, I’m going to proudly keep the SP99 chip which I just can’t fault for a second it’s a beast of a performer. I was so impressed that the SP99 could run DDR5 8400 (262k tREFI) with less than 1.400V VDD/VDDQ. And also hold down 5.9P-6.2P@1.208V load. I’m okay if the chip doesn’t have ground breaking P/E cores. I can’t really recommend a 14900KS if someone has an AIO cooler though. Maybe if it’s some crazy good chip. The thing is, a 14900K or 14900Kf will more than likely run 5.7 or even 5.8Ghz with less load voltage/load power and less load heat. So this makes a KS completely useless with weak cooling since they are literally binned to run for 5.9+ ONLY. Hence why you have all of these bad reviews of people hating on them saying it’s worse than their K/KF. 😎 I’m wondering how many returned KS chips there are that were actually probably strong lol.