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This is a seriously sweet deal on a (128GB) matched 8x16GB DDR4 3600 Samsung B-Die kit if anyone is in need. Only $199.99 OBO free shipping. Thats pretty much $50 bucks per 2x16GB of B-Die. Maybe cheaper if they accept an offer. They are A2 sticks as well https://www.ebay.com/itm/156442598214?_trkparms=amclksrc%3DITM%26aid%3D777008%26algo%3DPERSONAL.TOPIC%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D275221%26meid%3Da347bedc83f74ff5aa1fd7740fce8dd1%26pid%3D102055%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26mehot%3Dnone%26itm%3D156442598214%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D4375194%26algv%3DRecentlyViewedItemsMobileV2WithMLRPbooster_BP%26brand%3DCorsair&_trksid=p4375194.c102055.m146925&_trkparms=parentrq%3Acba690b91920a2a0bbf2fa7fffffe7ee|pageci%3A2e034c6b-9405-11ef-aafe-ba7fc58fe37c|iid%3A1|vlpname%3Avlp_homepage

House update! It’s almost DONE!!! Only one thing left is final inspection, and those steps are not mine, they have to build the real ones which are going to be 5ftx5ft landing. The steps on the home now are just temporary/portable wood steps. Pics of Inside the home, I do not have a key yet lol. They’ll change the locks before they hand us new keys. The cabinets are all real hardwood throughout the entire home. upload pic

My Apex had a free Aida copy, I lost it after hooking up the new motherboard/cpu. I did buy a key before the Apex from a janky site, but it was suspended for some reason. I’ll buy one though. The sub timings and main timings on LGA3647 can be reduced to some crazy low numbers lol. I mean, I could not do this on Z490/Z590 or even X299. I’m running CL13 currently for DDR4 3800, but I can probably bench CL12 pretty easily with enough voltage lol. Considering it’s 96GB of Dual rank, it’s kind of amazing. I can’t imagine what can be done if my ram was water chilled like my cpu. I’m currently running 3800 cl13-14-14-34-260.

This thing throws really well. Great bandwidth and good latency.

After my recent experience this week I think it matters how the chip is made up, the first thing I noticed is system fluidity on my 3175X. Zero delays, zero skips when working, just brute multitasking power like nothing is happening. I faintly remember this on my 7980XE@5.0Ghz and DDR4 4000, and I remember it being able to play two games at once 100% smooth, one in VR, and one on flatscreen. But I have been using the big/little chips for a few years now, so I have gotten use to the quirks, and it was just a normal thing. But I always thought the P/E chips while absolutely brutal in multithreaded, get a little lost in translation sometimes when the load gets high, and the apps multiply, and the windows services start stacking up. Use the OS for a few hours for work, close things out, and these high R23 scores have depleted, only a restart will replenish this. I can imagine this sounds hilarious, but it was the first thing I noticed on this absolute dinosaur of a system. I had to mention how smooth a true high core count CPU is. I can only assume the 9950X and Threadripper chips are like this as well 🧐 This makes me want to transition to W790 or the new W890 platform in the future and use only Monolithic CPU’s with only P-Cores. Because it is a big difference in smoothness. When we forget about what CPU we’re using, and we’re just working and doing things on the desktop running virtual machines, maybe minimizing games as well, the smoothness is definitely there on high core count Monolithic CPU’s that only have P-Cores available. After this experience, I truly wish Intel would go back to all P-Cores and monolithic chips. If they released a 10/20 chip with some crazy good IPC and massive cache size I would absolutely own one.

I know what looks really nice, my black/blue G.Skill Bdie dual rank sticks that aren’t RGB. And they are mere DDR4 sticks 🥳 Another thing that made no sense was apparently the Super Cool DDR5 block doesn’t even fit this new Z890 system. Thats just insane to me for some reason. I just can’t understand it. I’m okay with change so long as it’s for the better. But I guess in this case, the new Intel system was literally changed just for change. Newer is definitely not always better. Now back to some tuning on the X599 platform

3175X using CPU-Z Benchmark. Thing is a beast for sure.

I made a video of the process of re-pasting my Xeon w3175X CPU. It is quite tedious removing, cleaning, and re-installing this CPU. But, I followed the steps and it went perfectly smooth. I couldn’t find any info on this anywhere, so maybe it’ll help others as well. The old paste that was on it had moisture in it, that’s typical with water getting too cold and it ruins the ability of the paste. My temps dropped by 6C!!! https://youtu.be/zy2p3SoJOpc?si=2ydbx3vuW_CRK-oK

Definitely 11th gen all over again. I can’t possibly see anything magical happening at this point.

What was the sp rating? What’s vf curve like?

Gonna be more or less the same gap right?

Man I thought those were the better value honestly “On paper that is” scoring about 35K+ in R23 stock. Im a little surprised you aren’t digging it. I was anticipating 13900K multithreaded performance, faster single threaded performance all for $394+ range.

Uh oh. Are you referring to the 265k?

The latency and bandwidth on the old Xeon 3175X is pure amazing, this helps it maintain here in 2024 and drive a 4090 😃 This latency is better than most setups today, and very comparable to modern "Fully tuned" CPUs. I can run these same settings with the FULL 128GB of ram as well. Though, it does affect the active channels reducing bandwidth because 8x16 is an odd number of sticks for this platform. Which is why I run 6x16Gb config of DDR4 Samsung B-Die for now. I will be adding another (4) sticks for a total of (12x16GB) sticks then I can properly run the Hexa channel with all ram slots filled and it won't be an odd number. G.Skill did produce a 384Gb 12X32Gb DDR4 4000CL17 kit for this motherboard lol. I'd love to find one of those kits. Would probably cost like an insane amount of money though.

Was wondering as well. I guess he got his CPU early before launch day. I just hope his benchmark results aren't redacted also. 😁

That motherboard looks so familiar for some reason 🤣

One area where these chips are weaker is, doing things on the desktop like work apps running, and then going to play some games at the same time. The 285K chip would really need everything closed out on the desktop for best absolute performance in games, maybe even a quick restart. There are only 8 P-Cores. Anything moderately intensive running on the desktop or in the background will tie these cores up for sure. I know this all too well, because I run a gazillion apps at once, and go play games simultaneously while I am waiting on one of my agents to join a meeting or I'm just killing time in general. The 285K only has "24 threads" so definitely. All of this makes me really miss the old days of hardware. MOAR COREZ era lol.

The Wifi on this Dominus is beastly! Not sure why, but I am hitting 1Gbps in steam downloading games which is really great. But I do have some issues with the Bluetooth working on the Dominus Extreme. I have re-installed Windows, tried multiple different BT/Wifi drivers, gone through device manager adding new drivers, uninstalling/re-installing etc, and I cannot get BT working for the life of me. It's enabled in the bios, and I can see it pick up a device like my Xbox controller in Windows 11, but I cannot actually pair the Xboxcontroller. It just says something like "Device failed to connect" Been at this for about a day now lol. Any ideas? Anyone ever had this happen to them? I am thinking of just pulling the Wifi/BT 9260 off the board all together, and putting a different one in. I feel like I have tried it all. EDIT: This is a nice 4.6Ghz run on all cores. Still very good CPU temps. Power is 528 watts MAX. I really love this 3175X its really a sweet chip. 😍

I use a regular Windows 11 Pro “Full retail install” I had to buy it about 6 months ago. I love the lite Windows that are available, but I stopped using them a while back. I noticed memory stability issues with some of them, and also certain work apps that I need won’t work for me. Instead of trouble shooting each app, I just went back to a regular windows 11 Pro install and I will disable or remove most of the stuff I don’t need or use.

I’m finally resetting Windows. There are about 300 running services too many for me on my current OS lol. This is an old Windows maybe like 1 year old now. I have used it for work, benching, gaming, modding, creating, and breaking, and fixing things all in one OS. Not to mention the CPU/RAM/platform swaps. Nothing quite like a fresh OS. You get all that storage space back that you could never find. 🤣

Just typical Asus and their poor QA. Two resistors were literally soldered on backwards lol. Not the first batch, but later batches had this issue apparently. When the boards were sent in for repair they were showing up in warmer environments for repair. And the problems were completely hidden inside repair facilities (“Asus repair would say “nothing wrong with motherboard send back”) I can only assume since the ambient temps were probably warmer. Consumers could not fire their systems in their cooler homes, then the customer would think it must be my CPU that is dead, let me spend another $3,000 and send this W3175X back 🤯This little mistake caused many to think their boards or CPU’s were broken with Code 00 showing CPU as the problem lol. One quick blast with some warm air will fire it up. Instead people were tearing down their rigs and sending parts for exchange/repair. It was a bad experience I can only imagine. Wendell from Level1Tech who discovered this issue is still running his W3175X system. The person to blame is definitely Asus. Because the Dominus was the most popular choice. The Aorus C621 Extreme has less than #50 motherboards made, they made some more with a total of less than #100 retail boards in the wild, only they were without any issues with this to report. SR3 Dark came later, no issues either as far as I know. This cold bug was also present on some Asus Rampage Extreme X99/X299 boards and other boards too. ( Asus Quality Assurance at its finest) the good news is though, I don’t think this platform has any actual issues other than the cold bug. Any others problems are gonna be user error, throwing in random ram, and also improper cpu installation. People were not reading the manual and guessing on which 8 pin/24 pin connectors to plug in. As for my setup, I can only go by what I experience. Not a single crash, no problems other than the cold bug I already knew about. 🤗 I believe it to be more stable than LGA1700 so far. PS: No cold bug today. I just turned my rig on. 😎

Absolutely. Got to blow some warm air to fire the old beast up on those cold mornings. I may try the other Dominus and see if it has the cold bug as well, or just fix it since I have the parts, but honestly it doesn’t even bother me enough to care, if it did it everytime then yeah, that’d be annoying. It seems to be only when it’s cold and only after slitting all night. I’ve got this thing tuned up great though.

I am sure this could be better. My OS is starting to show its age. I just checked task manager after checking latency, and I have 328 services running on my Windows 11 Pro. 🙃

Just did some stability testing with 6x16GB DDR4 3800CL14 with 1.500V (3800CL14 at 1.500V is top-notch binned I think) This is perfectly stable on Air cooling, but it did require a fan to pass this test of course. This setup with no fans will error out in 2.5 minutes flat lol. With a fan it runs perfectly FINE! I don't technically need to water cool the rams, but I hate fans blowing on things like that, it becomes a dust master 3000, so I will definitely try to water-cool the rams! PS: 1usmus takes forever with all of this ram.

Are the DDR5 timings the same on AMD as they are on Intel? What sort of tREFI do you run on this platform?