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As far as I know a stock 13900K actually runs 5.4Ghz all-core officially. Now, imagine 1080P gaming with that. Using something like a 4080/4090 or 7900XTX. That’s a high frame rate driving some massive CPU power. Probably even pushing it to the power limit of 253W max. I imagine just increasing the power limit alone would boost things right alone. But 5.4Ghz to 5.9Ghz is about 10% more clock speed. Unlimited power, and tuned DDR5 with actual low latency like 50ns or less should absolutely blast a 7800X3D

@Mr. Fox Sorry. Here it is. Overclocking "Raptor Lake refresh" - 14900k,14700k, 14600k etc results, bins and discussion | Page 43 | Overclock.net

This is the binning statistics for everyone who posted their SP ratings and VF Curves and also batch numbers. Not really a good sample size because its only people sharing the SP who actually give a crap. While we have a slew of people out there who have no idea lol. But it is kind of helpful. #1 Best 6.0 VFCurve 1.388 #2 Best 6.0 VFCurve 1.398 #3 Best 6.0 VFCurve 1.403 #4 Best 6.0 VFCurve 1.408 #5 Best 6.0 VFCurve 1.413 --------------------------- #1 Best 5.8 VFCurve 1.329 #2 Best 5.8 VFCurve 1.344 #3 Best 5.8 VFCurve 1.349 #4 Best 5.8 VFCurve 1.354 #5 Best 5.8 VFCurve 1.359 --------------------------- #1 Best P-SP (SP123) #2 Best P-SP (SP121) #3 Best P-SP (SP120) #4 Best P-SP (P-SP118) #5 Best P-SP (P-SP117) ---------------------------- #1 Best E-SP=93 #2 Best E-SP=91 #3 Best E-SP=89 #4 Best E-SP=88 #5 Best E-SP=86 ----------------------------

This pink stuff is amazing! I’m going to order the little tub of it for sure that cost like $90 bucks I know that’s a lot, but this paste is that good, and I don’t know how long this will last lol. Maybe 1 months, maybe 2 months. But it’s an actual difference you can see. I powered off pulled chip, reapplied new paste, powered on and ran again right on the same profile and water temp. And shaved -4C right away.

I did a re-paste with Kryonaut Extreme on my CPU and dropped 4C on everything. 😁 I shaved off about 2 watts of power, and it made a huge difference. I was using TF7 before which had 650 hours on that mount since getting this 14900kfr CPU. Every single core dropped by exactly 4C. Identical water temp/ room temp. I’m seriously wondering how that’s even possible. I did use some Flitz polish on my waterblock cold plate and mirrored it up real nice. But that’s all I did. I’ll take it! Worth the $20 bucks I think. 😎 BEFORE AFTER

You know I was so tempted to buy one when I was waiting on 4080 Super stock, it felt like they just weren’t coming back in-stock. I was really wanting the 7900XTX Nitro+ which I think may be one of the best overclocking 7900XTX. But maybe I’m mistaken. I saw some others for even $890 dollars, and I was seriously questioning my decision on spending $900 vs $1200. Which model did you get?

Check this out everyone. I was browsing through MSI Store, and I was looking at their pre-built desktops and I saw this. It looks like it comes with 14900K, Godlike Z790 motherboard in the photos? Is that correct? And also a Suprim Liquid-X 4090? All for $3,899. That’s not a terrible deal. And it’s really top notch parts for a pre-built PC. I guess it’s all MSI brand parts, but higher end MSI parts, which seems pretty unique and also odd. Nothing I’d buy, but I’m just appreciating the part selection here which seems really high end for a “Pre-Built” name brand PC. Definitely better than a Alienware or Dell. https://us-store.msi.com/gaming-pcs/Infinite-RS-14NUI9-630US?sort=p.price&order=DESC

Aorus Master RTX 4080 SUPER in-Stock on Newegg if anyone interested. $1,159 Some other models for $1,049.99 are available too. https://www.newegg.com/zotac-geforce-rtx-4080-super-zt-d40820q-10p/p/N82E16814500581 https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-geforce-rtx-4080-super-gv-n408saorus-m-16gd/p/N82E16814932669?Item=N82E16814932669&utm_medium=email&utm_source=transactional&cm_mmc=TEMC-Function-AutoNotify-USA-_-N82E16814932669-_-003793&utm_campaign=TEMC-AutoNotify-US-_-003793

What does it score?

MCSP does not impact how far a memory controller will overclock, it directly impacts how much IMC voltage is needed to achieve the same overclock. You may find a 14900K mcsp75 and it runs DDR5 8200 Memtest stable with 1.475V CPU IMC. But you could test a 14900K mcsp85 that only needs 1.300v CPU IMC voltage for the same 8200. I think higher mcsp directly leads to lower cpu IMC voltage, and also lower SA voltage too.

I’m actually thinking about down sizing my whole system. I’m moving soon, and I’m not sure if I want to drag all this with me lol. I’m considering getting out of the “extreme game” and just running normal case with a AIO on a normal CPU with stock speeds. It’s been fun. But definitely I’m not looking forward to moving my work PC 🤣

@Mr. Fox I’d test both 14900K’s and settle for whichever can produce about 1.300-1.320V under load stock at 6Ghz. Because once you pop the IHS and run direct die it’ll take off another 0.040-0.050 more under load putting you at or below 1.270V equivalent to your KS. I do not think the Bios VFcurves are comparable between 13900KS and 14900K. So I wouldn’t go by that too much. I do think SP97+ is pretty dang good though. Many of these lower SP chips are on direct die 6Ghz+ doing 1.243V-1.260V load. So I think you will be surprised. Also, check the E-Cores and ring as well. Both on 14th gen are pretty amazing. Unless it’s a complete dud chip lol.

So the power usage is wrong. That makes sense now. I was wondering like what in the world man. You’re gonna weld the Direct die to the die. 😂

Didnt you just post a run the other day at 6Ghz pulling sub 400 watts? That 550 seems inaccurate. Maybe I’m crazy lol. That seems like a lot of power though.

Yeah I’m running chilled water for sure. But it’s not that cold. I stick to 15C daily, and 15C in the runs below. But the chip isn’t delidded so it still gets very hot. If it was direct die I’d be whooping on my old 13900KS which I can’t lol. That chip could do 6.1P/4.8 simply because it had the thermal headroom being direct die, lapped die, and 15C water. I already touch 80C temps at only 350 watts. So, my cooling isn’t that good. The block and contact is actually pretty poor I think. Simply because It’s a stock chip with stock Intel soldered IHS so temps aren’t good like DD+Chiller. These are old runs on my last OS. uploading pictures

No, I hit like 350 watts for 6.0P/4.8E/5.2R manual voltage R23. It hits about 45,200. The 600 watts is really astounding.

You mean with auto voltage right?

I am not delidded or direct die though so even with my 15C water temp, it should perform similarly to a direct die ambient 29c water chip no? Where you gain in direct die, I make up for in soldered stock chip with cooler water. That power is crazy!!! 😀 I’m not understanding why it’s so high.

Aren’t you on direct die?

You’re sending an actual 1.380V to your chip load? Holy bajesus. I can’t run that lol. I would melt. What’s your water temp? Also, the chiller doesn’t knock off that much. Even if my water temp doubled and were 30C, I’d only be 15C warmer in temps package.

For 5.9P/4.5E? That’s a so much power wow. Seems really high.

That’s not the standard OCCT test though. I may as well go run Prime 95 Small FFT’s AVX2. Is this what the test is on the 14900KS? Last time I ran OCCT default CPU test, it was similar power as R23. It’s the extras that can be enabled which cause much much higher power consumption.

Nahhh I’m too lazy for all that. My 8400c36 profile is stable right now, and I don’t wanna deal with re-stabilizing it after clearing bios.

I do not have OCCT. But I did run R23 with auto voltage while mirroring the 14900KS clocks. I set 5.9P (8) cores 6.2P (2) Cores, 4.5E-Cores, Auto ring, and Auto voltage, no power limits. Looks like 328 watts with DDR5 8400C36. Either their cooling is absolutely horrible, their chip is a turd, or their motherboard is going crazy on auto voltage (Probably combination of all three lol). But either way the Vmin does not look great for the 5.485Ghz@1.180V min the 14900KS chip was hitting. I think I am all set for LGA1700 though. I am about burned out on this socket lol. Enough is enough EDIT: MSI SHIPPED MY ORDER Today at 5PM!!!! Awesome!

@Papusan You know what test they ran to achieve 410 watts at 5.9P/4.5E? The power draw seems extreme compared to what my CPU draws. -120 watts with same clocks lol