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New discovery here with my RTX 4090 and I am super impressed by this, I started doing some investigation with my 4090 with power consumption. And this thing undervolts like crazy! I can do a standard +175Mhz on the core offset, then I can open the graph on the 0.950v mark and add another +30Mhz for a total of +205 on 0.950mv. This creates an effective 2,715Mhz boost at only 0.950mv, and the card uses exactly 125 less watts of power. So, it goes from around 440 watts in my game at default 1.050v 2,715Mhz, to around 315 watts of power at 0.950mv and the same 2,715Mhz boost. This is seriously amazing! This 125-watt reduction is only going from 1.050v to 0.950mv so, if someone is running the voltage slider at 100% in MSI AB and pushing 1.100v they would only lose -50Mhz in Core boost (Assuming they're at +0 offset on the core) while also reduce the power by 165 watts of power. 🤯 @Mr. Fox maybe give this a try, its very impressive! I have never tried to undervolt this GPU at all before, so this is my first thing looking into this. But seeing such results are insane to say the least. I am still trying to buy a 5090 lol. But dang, the 4090 is such a strong GPU. I have never seen such large power number drop offs from undervolting a GPU before, I remember undervolting my 3090KP and it definitely was not this drastic. (1) 4090 with 100% voltage slider runs 2,775Mhz@1.100V and 480 watts in Sniper Elite 6 (2)4090 with 0% voltage slider runs 2,715Mhz@1.050V at 440 watts in Sniper Elite 6 (3) 4090 undervolted runs 2,715Mhz@0.950V at 315 watts in Sniper Elite 6

Glad these big YT channels have all the 5090’s they need. 😆

How did you pre order one?

@electrosoft When does BestBuy usually re-up lol? You think there will be more tonight or in the morning? I keep hearing 02/06. But hoping maybe we can find some more before then. I registered with BH Photo notifications on 01/16, and I have not heard anything as of yet. This has been a crazy paper launch if I have ever seen one, I was poor during RTX3000 Series launch, and also poor during RTX4000 Series launch lol. I was here for the 4080 Super launch, and we had plenty of inventory which was surprising for a $999 GPU that was faster than the 4080. I really thought we would have plenty of cards for everyone this go around, retailers have learned more, gotten smarter to avoid bots and all of that stuff, I would hope supply chains have improved as well.. Nvidia never even offered to sell theirs on the Nvidia Store website. BestBuy is broken, and Newegg never even came in-stock for me 🥺. It seems like there was (20) 5080's for every (1) 5090. This makes me think what most are saying and that's just really poor yields and low quantities. Unless they are all going to China maybe. I think they also sent 40% of the available 5090's to YouTube Channels lol.

I think all of the 5090's were sold to Europe. Why sell a card in the USA, when you can sell it in Germany for much more money.

@Mr. Fox Check this really cool spread sheet out comparing the 4090 and 5080 performance. The 4090 gaps this thing. Take a look at the Minecraft DXR performance. now the 5080 is really power efficient. But, the 4090 can be as well. It is surprising what the 4090 can do when we gimp it to 350 watts with less voltage. Practically no loss in performance. This reduced power consumption already occurred on some models limited to 1.070v. RTX 4090 RTX 5080

The 4090 is still way faster than a 5080. Not to mention 50% less VRAM. I don’t think value on 4090’s will change much. I have a techpowerup spread sheet of all games tested in 1080/1440P/2160P Max/Avg/Min. And the 4090 gaps the 5080 extremely well.

At least I have my 4090 to use so I am thankful for that, would have been terrible if I prematurely sold it for a very low price lol 🙂 By the way, Sniper Elite 6 just came out on Game Pass!

Plus, Nvidia made two million 5080's and only fifty thousand 5090's so your chances of getting a 5080 are really good!

How do you buy a 5090 or 5080 on Nvidia website? I only see 3rd party options even at launch time. @electrosoft I think BH Photo is pretty terrible, I am afraid to order from them. I have heard people say they still have 3090's on pre-order and BH photo still had their money lol. They allow ordering on items that are not in stock at times, they charge you right away, then you have to play the long game, the 4090 I got from GTZ said this thing was on back order for 12 months before he finally received it, and that was after he got a notification in his email saying "4090 In-stock click the special buy link". It's just a single brick/mortar store so they may have trouble producing any real inventory of 5080/5090's. I am signed up to buy a 5090 from the and I have a few where I am "among the first" or as BH Photo calls it. But I am concerned from buying from them.

I could not get one either. It sucks. I’ll keep trying. I got in the queue 3 times. And it always gave an error, or said out of stock. automatic dice

Newegg pulled all of their 5080/5090 URL's so bots cannot snag them! This was a very smart move. Bots can only buy something if the link is copied and pasted and setup with the bot for the product pages of each item the person is trying to buy, and it refreshes and adds to the cart and automatically buys it. Without any URL's, bots are useless if I am understanding this correctly. If you search for 5090 on Newegg nothing comes up at all. I am ready for the AM!

The bots really aren’t all that fast. They are quick at adding to cart. But human intervention is still required on Newegg using the Newegg Bot. So you can match their speed for sure. Especially if these are scalpers looking to just re-sale, who are running bots on super slow PC lol.

What I mean is, the 16GB limit already has issues at 4K right now in titles.

That 5080 is looking great! The one thing I don’t like is 16GB vram just isn’t enough. 4K Cyberpunk 2077 with Path tracing on, or Starwars Outlaws slammed the 4080 Super for me. I feel like they are having to tweak it to make it smooth and fit inside something, and that worries me for future games. The first time in history where our next gen xx80 class card isn’t faster than the prior gen xx90 class card! Being completely honest, the 4080 beats a stock 3090 pretty good. 4080 Super even beat out my XOC Water-Chilled 3090KP by decent margins in rasterization. And with implementation of Frame Gen it was smoking it in 4K smoothness. I personally would rather have a 4090 over a 5080. My 4090 isn’t a crazy overclocker as most of you know core wise, I have rebar disabled on my current bios, and my Port Royal score is still higher than his apparent “Max OC 4090 results”. So, it almost feels like he’s comparing a gem to a dud. The 5080 for $999 isn’t bad. But I almost feel like the 4090 would be better if we fast forward 4-5 years to future games.

I want this one these are only $2,549.99! It’s only 230mm long or 9.2” And it already has a water-block ready to go! I feel like less people will be after this one since it has a block. And it’ll increase my chances some. These are always impossible to find after launch it seems. It’s almost like Aorus only makes a few thousand and that’s it.

3090ti SLI would be fun (Lots of power) I think I saw the rtx5090 was still faster than (2) XOC LN2 cooled 3090Ti’s. So that’s pretty good at least. Yeah I’m excited. I just hope I can get one. The 30th at 9am is literally dragging. I’m probably going to go for the same models as you. But if I see a Gigabyte Waterforce Extreme WB 5090 I’m getting that for sure.

I hope I can snag a 5090. I was considering renting a bot lol. RTX 5090 day is almost here!!! Good luck everyone! Which model is everyone going to go for again? Part of me wants to focus on the 5090 FE at Bestbuy, then the other part wants me to lock in on Newegg, and get an AIB SUPRIM SOC or SOC Liquid.

Well, at least it’s better than me hitting 34Gbps, and you only hitting 31Gbps due to dud GDDR7. (WE ALL HIT 34Gbps!!!)) lol. 😂

I mean, I would love to be able to OC my 4090’s memory to 34gbps. 😃

Imagine if the 5080 can run 34Gbps, that’s where it will whoop the 4080 Super for sure. Those cards are so limited by the 256 bit. That would be a 48% faster memory speed on the GDDR7 compared to the GDDR6X. Pretty substantial difference. Maybe another 10-15% and for $999 it’s definitely better than nothing. Asus is still Nuts either way lol.

Gigabyte is stepping it up! They are using server grade high quality thermal putty instead of thermal pads on all of their GPU’s, and they even use Liquid Metal on both the 5090 Extreme Waterforce models! This is amazing to see steps in the right direction. They wanted to improve temps by 10% and reduce size by 10%. It seems like all of their prices are going to be better than even MSI’s GPU’s. So I may go with a Gigabyte this time as well. https://www.alktech.co/articles/in-the-news-gigabyte-launches-its-line-up-of-geforce-rtx-5090-and-rtx-5080-graphics-cards

@electrosoft Do you know if MSI USA Store gets their inventory on launch day? They have the RTX 5090’s listed and say “Coming soon”

5080 Astral is $1,899.99 😂 I don’t know why anyone would pay double price of a 5080 FE 🥴 I’m gonna try for the Aorus Extreme Waterforce WB 1st, then Suprim SOC Liquid 360mm is 2nd option, then Suprim SOC Air 3rd option, and Gigabyte Gaming OC 4th option. Asus can keep their stuff. They’ve officially lost it if these prices are real. Only BH Photo shows the 5090 Aorus Extreme Waterforce probably $2499 or $2599 of I had to guess. I’d love to have a pre-blocked GPU for much less money than what Asus charges for their big 5090 Atlas though.

Asus has lost their mind! I just read the 5090 Astral reviews, and literally chuckled at what Guru3D listed in the comments (Clearly a typo) They want $1700 for a 5080 TUF? And they want $2800 for a 5090 Astral?! They are pricing this card +$400 over the Suprim SOC, and +$300 over the Suprim SOC Liquid. I am not getting the Asus Astral! I draw the line at that price 100%. Asus has lost their MIND! That would be $3,015 dollars with taxes not including any extra shipping cost if I want it a little faster. I really want a 5090 Suprim SOC or SOC Liquid now. Those are priced VERY reasonably to me. But honestly, I'd be very happy with a Gigabyte 5090 Gaming OC for the $2249 or $2299. The Gaming OC is definitely a classic! And while it's not the highest build quality, but their coolers are performing at the very top and they work very well.