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Im not planning to upgrade for a while still, few times came across where I almost bought a 4090 came very close, but didn’t want to waste the money and didn’t do it. I don’t mind turning down a setting or bumping DLSS to the next faster notch up for 4K. Neither option has been needed just yet. Now it looks like RTX5000 series is not coming out until 2025? All the more reason to keep my 3090 I guess lol. Hopefully it runs good with Bethesdas new Starfield game at 4K! 🫣

I think a used 2080Ti is good option too for 2023! Especially a good 2080Ti A bin. Back when I ran a 2080Ti it was easily providing substantial gains over the 3070Ti and It had the 11GB VRAM. Now that I think about it. The 2080Ti is really really old. But for 1080P. Man, it would still be fast.

Yeah that’s unfortunate I would just return it, spend the extra $100 bucks and get a Z790 Dark. It sounds like you’re sacrificing a lot of things that you do not want or like at all with the Asus which you already do not like lol, all just to save $100 dollars. Especially since the Z690 Dark was working so good, and you probably prefer those features. This really seems like a no brainer to me. You had a Z690 Dark, grab a Z790 Dark as a replacement. While this would be the first time I have ever heard of a Z690 Dark out overclocking a Z790 Apex. I know everyone has a different experience with things and it definitely happens. As for the PCH mine is 53c right now, but it works. I believe the Unify-X ran much hotter though. I’m really enjoying mine, it has been super reliable. Last night I updated to the latest FW and latest bios that were released last week. I’m allowing it to run the stock profile for a day or so and then I will start heavy overclocking back to where I was before. I did notice a nice 7-9 watt reduction in CPU power with the new bios 🙂 I have always been a EVGA guy. I’ve ran X299 Dark, Z490 Dark, Z590 Dark. I never really cared for Asus products. Now, my new Z790 Apex was practically free which is why I got one. I just traded for it. But if I was buying one now, keep in mind the Z790 Dark is like about 15% more expensive. But in your situation it may be worth it, it would weight a little more “Feels heavy” you can disable ME, PCH would run cooler, and you’d have the best of all features that bios familiarity.

Those speeds are absolutely good enough. Is that just 1 SSD?

There has to be something at play here going on. Pretty sure a Z690 Dark is not going to outpace the Z790 Apex. I would try some different ram or something. Maybe some different bios or FW off of Bianbao.net Think about that for a moment. These are really great overclocking motherboards. Now I will say, when I first got my Z790 Apex I couldn’t get my Team Group 7200’s to run like my Unify-X ran them, I was stuck at 7800 range. Not sure if this was bios, growing pains, or just swapping out ram that fixed it. But, I’m pretty sure I can get DDR5 8700 out of my ram if I really really tried.

I imagine you can get those VRM temps in check, and you got the know how to do it. I would grab some of that high heat transfer thermal puddy. I saw a guy yield crazy reductions on a Z790 Apex with that stuff.

It actually works. You can turn a chiller in to an extremely powerful A/C unit. Probably not ideal for cooling a house, but easily a large room. In any case I would use a big 12-15K BTU window unit for large area, and small 3-5K for all other small rooms in the home if I needed to work as good as central A/C.

You can hook up a Mora3 or Pora3 to a waterchiller set the water to the coldest temp, blast all of the 120MM fans at 2,000RPM+ and you can cool down a room pretty quickly!!! 🤣 that air coming off the radiator fans is so COLD. Not only is it colder than my vents in my house A/C but It blows equivalent to maybe 3-4 of them. I’m just joking here ^ but it absolutely works.

I wonder what would happen if you took apart the motherboards and revised their thermal pad/thermal paste/ heatsink mounting a little bit. Maybe even put one of those big Optimus Fujipoly pads on the entire backside of the motherboard VRM area. Or maybe some small little fans or something.

ohhhhhh!!!! That’s exactly why. I know I remember this now. Couple months back I was on the Newegg site when the Gen5 M.2’s were first dropping and I researched this and I came to the exact conclusion that you did. I’m not running X8 to my GPU. I forgot all about this 😂 One thing too though is, your 4090 on Gen5 at X8 is the same bandwidth as X16 Gen 4.0 which is what your Z690 Dark was providing I think 🤔 I’m not sure, I’d have to see that first hand though before I would run x8 4.0 or x8 5.0 to my GPU, just to have a monstrously fast M.2 Anyways, how is the Z790 Apex? Is it solid? Working well for you?

Is this Plague tale built in benchmark? I haven’t played that game much at all. Maybe 30 minutes about a year ago, and got too busy to enjoy it. I’ll try it again.

Nice M.2! But I am almost certain my current drive is capable of the same speeds when it was fresh and empty the last time I ran a disk benchmark 🤷‍♂️. I believe it’s 7100/6800. I have two of those Corsair M600 Pro XT Hydro’s. I was thinking those Gen 5’s do like 10K+ no?

Yes I would love to do a mini ITX build, I may or may not go that route. For now it’s gonna be just air cooled or AIO. I absolutely prefer the performance and power usage of a KS over a regular K. Man I can only hope they do come in stock. The KS has always been tricky to find, I don’t even think Best Buy sold them. KS is really so much better than the normal K, and that’s not said enough even in the reviews. 🙂

You have a 3090Ti KP? Those GPU’s are excellent! My 3090KP is an utter beast for 4K gaming. It does it all.

I’d like to buy a brand new one, or non delidded one. It’s gonna run on an AIO for now. I have heard a shipment of new retail KS are coming in-stock next week, apparently the stock in China/ and Malaysia has already replenished. I didn’t think Intel was shipping anymore, but I guess they are 🤷‍♂️

Oh that’s awesome man, I don’t really care about the SP though. I’ll take any KS. They’re just really hard to find at a price within reason and I do not want a standard K chip, I’m just building a second PC for my kids, I think they are finally old enough “Living room AKA everyone PC” All of the KS chips I have tested are flipping amazing! SP104’s or the SP117’s.

Loved the video. Hey, if you ever decide to sell your 13900KS could you keep me in mind?

That’s the same batch as mine the (A04) you shouldn’t have any problems with it. The installed bios is 0812. I upgraded to 0904 a while back and it has been absolutely solid everyday for work. I’m extremely curious to hear how this turns out! I said a quick prayer for you and your experience🤣

Wow! That’s amazing looking. Wait, is that a real giraffe in the background?! 😂

It is absolutely worth it, I’m really surprised you even bought one 🤯. She is all function and performance though. I know I was worried with mine because the Z690 Apex was not a very good performer over the Unify-X. It worked and looked really really cool while doing it. Out of curiosity when was your new apex made?

BeamNG FUN!!!! This is literally the funnest way to pass time! While your working 😂

The Z790 Apex is absolutely amazing! Mine is so consistent and has been since day 1! Many others have the same consistency. I was worried going in to it. But it worked out 100%.

This is the 4K flex that @electrosoft is referring to! It still runs (The Last Of Us ) very very smoothly though! And the game is absolutely maxed out, with Quality DLSS. It’s really pretty impressive.

Is your laptop a 4K display? These panels are great for work! You can really do so much. But for gaming, I wouldn’t mess with it. I would probably just run 1920x1080 for best performance.

This 3090 Kingpin is an absolute power house for sure. The loss when running 4K is very minimal. I’m going to demonstrate (The Last Of Us) next. My frame rate at when running 2560x1440P and then now 3840x2160 almost doesn’t make sense. Desktops are much more powerful than laptops. My system would do some serious damage against even a MSI GT77 Titan RTX4090 Laptop which is a $5,000 dollar machine. 🙂 I almost bought one, but I convinced my self otherwise. I will eventually upgrade to a RTX4090 desktop, or a RTX4090 Super. Especially with the release of StarField approaching in September of 2023 🤯🤯🤯. Unless it runs smoothly on my 3090 Kingpin.