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Where’s the chiller and the tank at? We can make it a little thicker. 🤣

Yes I scraped all of the Kryonaut that has been pressed out from prior contact and kept it on the scraper just in case, if it performs good I’ll just throw it away. But since it didn’t, I respread it all back on the cpu after I cleaned it. I am still using the same waterblock. It works very well. I don’t believe anything available will out perform it besides my Supercool Gen13 DD. But I can’t exactly use that one.

Man this walmart paste is the WORST!!! 12-13c hotter package temp while incorporating a 0.5-0.6c warmer water temp as well. (chiller was just about to cycle when I started recording on the Walmart paste) but it’s like half of a degree, both water temps are 15c. This stuff absolutely sucks!!! 💀 PS: The Kryonaut paste was “Re-scraped and re-used as well. “I ran out of fresh” so it’s ABC paste, or “Already been chewed”

Looks great. I’m playing around with latest bios and microcode right now. I never did try 0125. Just went to 0129 late last night.

Okay, I loaded the new microcode 129 and 2503 Apex bios on my other bios switch. If this bios sucks, I’ll just swap back over and drag the new microcode with me to my 9901 bios.

Yeah, I’m not too worried about it, my 13900KS and 14900KF were both outstanding, and stood up to the test on this Apex with no loss in ability. So I won’t fix what ain’t broken. Very happy with how it is right now. 😃 I did have one CPU that dropped off on me though. And that was my 13900K (SP110 Global P121/E88) It was crazy strong when I first installed it on my MSI Z690 Unify-X. After just a couple hours achieving a stable profile, it had lost a significant edge in ability in what it could do (This was using fixed vcore and fixed frequencies “No single core boost”) Me & The Z690 Unify-X “Went to its ass” I don’t know what happen for sure, but I remember the day well, But that’s the only chip that’s ever degraded on me, and that was on an MSI Z690 board. It was fine for several hours, then out of no where I get the “Out of GPU memory” errors. Increasing the vcore fixed it. The chip was still amazing afterwards. But it lost like 0.020mv-0.030mv+ just like that. I was going heavy on it, 1.330+ load volts I was testing for 5.8Ghz and 5.9Ghz all core, and pushing 6.0Ghz all core with 1.340-1.350v load (No delid). Heavier amperage 280-300+ range. And that was what it took (I was running Battlefield at these speeds and voltages). I was using LLC6 and LLC7 mostly as well. Well for MSI I think it was LLC2 and LLC3. I knew what I did though 💀 and this was like the 6th chip at this point that I had tested on this MSI board. But I was really digging in to that P-SP121. Anyways, when the KS came out I wanted one, and I stayed away from too high of amperage, and too high voltages since. Never had any issues. I’ll hammer SVID’s to the roof so long as the amps are low. But keep the vcore low when the amps are high. And this has worked.

I’ve always ran all of my chips like this since 13900K. I am nearly 600 hours on this current chip right now. 😃 I have power limits in place, amperage limits in place, temp limits in place. And full load voltage never exceeds 1.208V. Never had any degrade on me.

I am going to cook mine down for sure then! (Kidding I set a 1.550V limit) and it’s not too low for 6.5Ghz boost “Close though” while at work it’s pretty FAST! The top end on these chips is CRAZY.

I’m not sure if I will upgrade my microcode, but I can set a VR max of 1500mv in my bios which should resolve any potential issues.

Yeah, and using Windows balanced power mode has shown higher numbers for me in this TS cpu test. 🤷‍♂️ One more thing, Timespy physics score is very sensitive to stability as well. If your CPU isn’t getting fed enough juice, or is not completely stable, I have seen it score lower. I remember spending an entire day running just TS cpu test and trying different thing. Just another one of those weird things with Win11 I guess.

Full auto stock is the way to go! I have tested overclocked CPU vs stock CPU and the trade-off mostly is just extra power, I truly believe any KS will slam down most of the higher end 13900KS chips, my SP99 was pretty amazing at 5.9 even though it had the 1.447v 5.9 vfcurve 🤭. I always explore all voltage options with these CPU's for benching and for fun though. But Adaptive/Auto is the way for me and no delidding, something about removing the IHS makes me feel like I ruined the chip or something, I regretted delidding that R-batch, and I really just wanted to get back to stock soldered chips. As for my VFcurves, my current P122/E82 chip is 1.378v for 5.9Ghz.

What exactly does this ME do? Does it limit our max voltage? I’m almost afraid to mess with it.

This retail sp108 USA made 14900KS is a true mad dog. The IMC is beyond anything I have ever owned or tested, and so is the ring. You can bench with 5.5Ghz ring on this chip if you want. I do not feel the need to really overclock the P/E cores much if at all. Since 5.9Ghz is fantastic. With no delid, the load vcore is 1.208v with the ring at 5.3Ghz. This CPU is not delidded either. It runs so good right out of the box. This below is DDR5 8800c38 with only 1.540V vdd. I am going to keep pushing the voltages and improve even further. But this works totally fine as a daily setup. Really a cool CPU though. One of the most well rounded I have owned besides my old 11900K. This is a reincarnation of that it seems. I really love this chip, and I had to say it! I may just skip next gen Intel. 🙂

I think it’s time to skip a generation. Let’s pay the credit cards back down to zero. No more new toys for me lol. Now, I appreciate the extra Intel CPU warranty on my 14900KS. But if something happen to this chip, getting another would be kinda tough.

Thats awesome! The LTT Golden Sample 10900K’s could all do the 5.7Ghz I think too. Those were all SP115-SP130 range. Just insane chips. but pretty hard to find as they only made #200 I think.

5.6Ghz with a 10900K? That has to be an amazing chip.

DDR5 8800 wants that SA juice for most chips. This is with 1.360V SA below, I am messing around with 8800 as of now, just a quick test in TM5, never tried 8800 before. Good news is, even loose 8800c40 does perform decently though (Unless the IMC is under so much strain, it won’t perform very well) Testing with 1.500V vdd, and 1.500v vddq for the moment. I would see if you can manually enter your "DqVrefUP" and "DqVrefDOWN these slopes. Sometimes they do not work properly when training and going in to the 8800+ territory. I am not sure what your current motherboard sets them to that you are using. But it should be something like this below for frequencies on an APEX. 8000 DqVrefUP 170 / DqVrefDOWN 88. 8400 DqVrefUP 178 / DqVrefDOWN 96. 8800 DqVrefUP 186 / DqVrefDOWN 104. 9400 DqVrefUP 198 / DqVrefDOWN 116.

I bought a new Stihl 261 with 20” bar. Yep they are German made pro saws. I love it! Mounted a hour/tach meter to it as well. Cut a few trees so far and it works amazing.

I recently needed to make a decision for buying a yard tool, and this tool was something I needed now and would also use for years down the road. A “Chainsaw” lol. Very simple item. But most are consumer garbage and disposable just like a lot of the PC’s and laptops available today, you wouldn’t believe most chain saws have a plastic crank, and even plastic crank case housing (Don’t drop it). And just like in the tech PC world, in the chainsaw world their are chainsaw enthusiasts 😂 Yep, and they are overclocking and tweaking and building some crazy high performance chainsaws 😂 haha anyways, I wanted something that would last me, something you don’t toss in the bin when it breaks, something that can be fixed if required, so I started looking at Pro saws for clearing my lot now and in the future for years to come. Good chainsaws are pretty expensive. But I ended up settling on a model. And within most of these models they have added the usual “Updated fancy tech electronic features” to these chainsaws, This feature is called “Mtronic” this is like an ECU for a chainsaw. It controls fuel, spark, if it’s rich or lean etc. I couldn’t help but think why the heck do I need this on a chainsaw? Fortunately they sale both, and either option is the same price. Moral of the story, I seriously could not decide which one to buy, is newer better? I just thought which one you’d probably buy. And since they still sale the same one they designed without all of these electronics and epa regulations/ and emission restrictions attached, right beside the new fancy pants one, and for the same price, that’s the one I went with. A darn good ole chainsaw with a regular carburetor, no electronics on it, updates were disabled for 10 years on this one (Just like your Windows) 🤣 It’ll always work and it will always run! Newer is not always better. Another thing I am not a fan of is these newer Z790 Apex bios by the way. I’m running 9901 currently, this is the only bios available that has “XMP Tweaked” for the white Apex, and this is a nice bios. Now, time to go knock out some of those darn trees! 😎

The 5 year warranty is nice, but dang that’s a long time to keep a cpu I think 2 years is stretching it 🤣 I also use the 6.2Ghz boost, but I always aim for running the lower load voltages and lower max amperage and lowest power. I checked my Vmin yesterday after 560+ hours on my SP108 KS. I set a straight 5.9P/4.5E auto ring (default clocks), and my Vmin was 1.190V in Cinebench R23 load (CPU is not delidded) From my experience the degradation range is 1.300V+ load voltages. Not from using the 1.400-1.500V+ idle VID’s with low amperage on 6.2Ghz (2) core loads. I think the biggest problem with a 14900KS is if I reset my bios and run an average chip its load R23 default voltage is beyond 1.320-1.350v + which is red zone for long term or short term, sub 1.300+ is enough to feed 6.1Ghz all core with good cooling, so with these 14900KS fighting for 5.9Ghz sustained on AIO’s they were climbing beyond 1.350-1.375+ load which is melting them down. (Newer bios have fixed this of course) that is the main high voltage issue. High Vcore under extreme loads or moderate loads long term. And high amperage under high heat.

Give it some solid testing in games, make sure it doesn’t freeze with DDR5 8200 using your current SA voltage and rock on! (give it a few days of solid testing in lots of things) My other SP99 14900KS had an SA bug. That was mainly why I returned it though. It couldn’t daily 8400 so I let it go back, I didn’t mind the SP99 at all 🤣. Real world daily limited me to about DDR5 8200 range for true stability with no freezing on that chip too. You’d think it was okay and stable at 8400, and then Randomly one day, your PC locks up, and then again randomly a week later. I got lucky on this 2nd SP108 with no sa bug, but since your chip is sp109 and very good cores, and if it can do DDR5 8000+ I’d say that is absolutely acceptable for SFF build. You may even be able to run some crazy tight 8000c32 or 8200c34. 😍 I’m all about sacrifices! And accepting weaknesses in a chip. They all have some sort of weakness anyways.

Just grab the 8200 G.Skill 2x24’s 😎 (They are better than the G.Skill 8400’s from what I can see and have heard from others as well) See pic below. That is 8400c40@1.400V with tighter timings than the 8400 XMP kit. I used the below test to make sure my ram was not a limiting factor, which it absolutely is not, but I had to see since I have Gskill 8200’s my self, and ended up with a great IMC. I have tested the Patriot 8200‘s they worked okay, but found them just slightly worse than my G.Skill 7200’s. Many rumors also point to the G.Skill 8200’s as being the superior bin to the G.Skill 8400’s. These sticks can even do 8600c40@1.400V for TM5 Anta777 Extreme/ MemtestPro/ 1usmus 20 cycles/Karhu. “All the usual lighter ram testing apps” 🤯 🤯🤯

This is taken inside my local Walmart in Dunn, North Carolina lol. 😂 They sale numerous popular PC parts, including a 14900K?!!! I knew the day was coming.

Oh yeah lol. x79 is DDR3. My goodness that was a while ago. Now that I think about it, I do remember running 1866 or 1833 on my Intel i7 3820.

You think DDR4 3200 can run on this setup? I can’t even remember where they top out at honestly. But that already looks insanely impressive! That bandwidth/latency is very good for this system. Let’s drop the 4090 in there for a quick test! 😀