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After hours of research I finally bought a GPU for my son’s PC. I was debating for about 2 days on this. Intel ARC was gonna be perfect, and I wanted to do an all Intel build. Then I find out there’s limited to no VR support. So I go looking at AMD and then I start thinking about drivers and also VR again, and I think maybe Nvidia is the best for reliability and 100% function all the time even if it’s a little slower in rasterization performance, it’s the GO TO. Option (1) RTX4060 (Terrible value, 8GB of vram is crap.. Option (2) RTX4060Ti 16GB (Literally the WORST VALUE in the world.. These things are $440-$500 dollars, making it literally the dumbest buy. It’s intentionally so expensive that Nvidia is forcing you to step up to the 4070 which is still a gimmick because it only has 12GB of VRAM. “We give you more but also less” for this money I can buy my son a AND 6950XT Red Devil which will beat them all 🤨 Option (3) RTX3060Ti, plenty of performance but only has 8GB of vram!!! Option (4) RTX3070 (Only 8GB of VRAM) Option (5) RTX2080Ti (I almost purchased one, it was pretty much the best option price/performance and still has 11GB VRAM) Bought (6) WINNER WINNER CHICKEN DINNER Asus RTX3060 Strix 12GB V2 OC for a whopping $265 USD. ^ The price to performance and ram amount of 12GB sold me for sure. RTX3060 12GB it is. In the end shopping for cheaper GPU’s is really tough.

Yeah VR is very very very popular, so popular I was actually surprised it doesn’t work with Intel ARC. It’s becoming even more popular with all of the standalone devices. Few weeks ago I purchased a Oculus MetaQuest 3 for my self so I can play with my son with him on his MetaQuest 2. These are standalone devices so they can game wirelessly on their own MetaQuest games (Less demanding graphics/physics), but having a PC with a GPU makes all the differences because you can leverage 100% of your PC to run higher end VR games on Steam VR or even MetaQuest on the desktop which aren’t available on just the standalone device. Like a traditional VR headset Valve Index which has to have a PC. If you have not tried VR, then I highly recommend it! Me being 33 years old makes it a little harder to stay engaged or interested with traditional Flat screen PC games, while VR gaming is just amazing! It’s also physically demanding. I have been hooking up VR to my PC for my son since 2080Ti days 😂. Now he’ll finally have his own rig so he won’t be cluttering up mine with all the random games and mods etc.

All good! Had to pass on the Intel ARC due to no VR support for Oculus apparently.

You have any good bargains on used GPU’s? Something not too expensive less than $400? I think you go through a lot of hardware so just checking before I buy something.

Anyone know the max safe DDR5 speed for a 12900KS and a cheap Asrock DDR5 Z790 (4) Dimm motherboard? I skipped 12th gen. So I’m not really sure on this one. Should I aim for XMP 6400? XMP 6800?

This thing is a mad dog. SUB 350 watts at 6.1P/4.9E/5.0R (Water temps 15-16C) upload image

That really makes me wonder what is happening with the mount or bios. Or maybe it is indeed a defective CPU? Not good either way. I don’t think it should idle that high temp wise. On another note. My 14th gen E88 cores are totally happy at 4.9Ghz (Only needs 1.234v load for 6.0P/4.9E/5.0R). I haven’t tried 5.0Ghz E-Core yet, but I have enough voltage head room at this point, It might just happen. (Haven’t tried yet) My R batch with E88 cores are easily the best E cores I’ve tested to date though.

Yeah after seeing the quality people were getting. And seeing my credit card balance. I started feeling a little sick with my self. Thoughts Like, “Why do I need this” “I can spend this money on my wife and kids instead” 🤣 “I’m being selfish” Maybe if I was selling something to re-coup funds I’d be okay. And I’m not selling my 14900KF lol. I don’t even need a 14900KS. One cool thing about Central Computers is, when I hit cancel I had the funds back immediately on my credit card. So I can sleep better tonight. Maybe use it later for buying something I need. Or something I can benefit from.

I cancelled my 14900KS order.

I got me one on the way too. 😂 I shouldn’t have. But just could not resist it. Maybe you or I will hit the lottery! Im gonna run it up against my 14900KF R batch. We’ll see how it stacks up. Looks like these are VERY VERY limited stock. I got one from Central Computers with 2 day shipping. Looks like Newegg is tacking on the usual +$30 scalper up charge.

Playing through Starfield for the 2nd time. Well, I actually didn’t quite finish it the first go around. But I’m starting a new game. I’ll say that this 4080 Super Suprim-X has no problem running the game 4K native completely maxed out and giving a good frame rate. I am amazed by running the game with 4K+DLAA+Frame Gen. This provides a native picture and offers a very nice frame boost which feels very smooth at 100+ FPS. I’m actually liking frame gen a lot. It’s not perfect. But it gives you another setting to tweak. And in this case it pays off well. We usually have two common options with graphics cards in more demanding games. But with frame gen we get a middle ground or third option. (1) DLSS Quality, ULTRA, highest FPS with just slightly lower image quality. Smoothest latency. Best performance usually. (2) Native 4K ULTRA, best image quality very playable FPS still but feels buzzy/static like or jittery in the mouse. (3) DLAA 4K + Frame Gen best image quality, still very high frame rate, latency better than that of a demanding native 4K game with a lower FPS. 100+ FPS!!! 😁 Anyways, who’s buying a 14900KS on launch? I’ll be skipping this one. I was gonna grab one for testing just for fun. But now I’m thinking probably not. I expect they are $749.99 at Micro Center, but for NewScalpEgg they’re going to be $799.99+ tax. Or possibly even $819.99 if they start selling well.

Anyone know what’s wrong with Cyberpunk 2077? Trying to use Frame Gen and my GPU usage is horrible. 50-70% range with 4K and DLSS Quality. Losing lots of frames here. I also have to run my windows power plan on balanced mode, or else it skips really badly on High performance or Ultimate power plan it is literally unplayable. I don’t remember this game running so poorly, I have not really played it in a few years though. Many updates have happen since I use to actually play it. But it runs like crap. Running on a fresh OS windows 11, new GPU drivers as well. It just can’t hold my GPU usage up at all. Seems like a bug or glitch for sure? Another thing is, I cannot enable or disable Vsync in game, I feel like the OG Cyberpunk from 2020 ran far better than this.

I would probably delid and then compare with the KS since the KS runs 4.8E with direct die, I tested a 13900KS E-SP103 which could only run 4.7E before going on direct die. So direct die is still the savior for most regardless if its E95 or E100. The good new is It’s still a very respectable binned R batch chip that you have. So it kinda of makes no sense how I can run 66C at 5.9/4.8/5.0@300 watts with 15C water, while you are hitting 105C with 16C water With just 5.9/4.7/5.0. That’s really really hot! Thats a really huge difference in temps.

Looks like 14900KS material to me.

My brother just does gaming. He loves AMD 😁 so I think it will be okay for him. He’s not gonna be doing any work from the system, or doing anything but gaming and benching.

I was trying to convince my brother a 4070Ti Super for $799.99 would be a pretty good option. Or better yet just a used 4070Ti just for the good drivers and RT/DLSS performance. But he is set on a 7900XT/XTX. Anyways using bios 9901 I got 8600 C38-49-49-49-65 with tight secondary timings and 262k tREFI working really well. I am kind of surprised actually. Then again, I never really tried to go after 8600 with this CPU all that much. I was really in to the 8533c36 and 8400c34/36 timings they performed really good.

@electrosoft My brother is about to buy a 7900XTX. But I heard these GPU’s had some caveats etc, I can’t exactly remember what was the problem with them. What’s the consensus with these again? Didn’t you make a review of one?

Looks like that cheap Chinese stuff they sell in bulk tubs on Amazon. Probably the worst thermal rating.

Yep companies are making things small nowadays, even the fastest GPU’s are tiny little things once you remove its helmet of course. I’m being conservative especially because I do plan to grab a 14900KS. I want to compare with my really good 14900K. No delid on either, just head to head comparison. We’ll see what happens.

I’m interested in that bios 🤩! Could you email it to me? Thats for the white Apex right? I see you linked it! Never mind. Thank you.

This will be a test of its ability for sure. So far so good. No power shutdowns. It is a quality 1000 watt unit. I don’t think I’d ever need two PSU’s though. I have not had the best luck with power supplies. Seasonic 1200w Platinum (Power shutdowns at 700-800 watt loads) EVGA 1300G+ (Popped and smoked after 1 day) EVGA 1300P+ (Reliable but with coil whine, higher the frame rate the louder it was) Snack Sized MSI 1000W (So far so good lol) My CPU is very efficient 303 watts R23@5.9/4.8/5.0 auto voltage LLC4 The GPU can consume 380+ watts under a heavy overclock, but stock its sub 300 watts in 4K. D5 pumps typically use a max of 37 watts apparently, but I have an Aqua Computer D5 pump and at 100% or 4800RPM it only consumes 20 watts of power. So my pumps probably use 100 watts together all (5) of them. I have (2) 2TB M.2 SSD’s, and I use (1) 120MM fan. The PSU can handle about 1200 watts in a warm environment before kicking off. But I don’t think I can get near its limits. I know it’s tiny, and I know it’s kinda hilarious. And if it fails, I will go get me a big dog 1600 PSU lol. But I really don’t think I need more than a 1,000 watt.

😆yeah yeah Laugh it up I know. I know. But hey, at least it’s built properly and has silent operation 😃

Don’t laugh guys! lol. 🤣 This tiny little baby PSU is actually working great! Completely silent! No coil whine at all.

I use the ISO creation tool which is nice not sure which one it is. I can disable the TPM 2.0, and create a local account for the install. And when I load windows the first time it already has a local account made with no password, you better set a password before restarting windows during the first time loading after the “Getting things ready for you” or else you can’t login after a reboot because it’s a local account created with no password assigned, and you’ll have to reinstall windows all over again lol. TPM security is smart but stupid at the same time I think. Smart because back in the day you could just plug in someone’s HDD and use it on your PC. But it also sucks because flipping over to my motherboards bios position can trip the TPM and break my OS.

Thats really cool. I have been putting this off too long and I’m building my son a system right now. I’m not sure if I’m going to re-use an old Z490+DDR4 setup I have and grab a used 10900K and start with that. Or maybe I just go for a newer Intel system all together. I’m looking at 10900K prices and they seem a bit too expensive.