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This new 13900KS is really a nice darn chip! Batch# X252N653. Runs similar to my 13900K across the board only this 13900KS uses -0.040V to -0.050V less voltage at any frequency. Not as good as that last 13900KS lol. But definitely half way there! This chip is really great though! I’ll find out the SP rating when my Z690 Apex arrives. It sits comfortably between my 13900K (SP110) and that really nice 13900KS (SP117) I tested. This chip is probably an SP112-SP115 if I had to guess. It uses just a little more voltage over that SP117 13900KS about +0.045V more at 6.1Ghz. I was quite surprised to see it was even better than my 13900K. I’m not sure if this is just dumb luck or what.

The Z690 Apex was $699.99 new. Asus ROG boards really hold their value believe it or not (I know this is silly, but it’s really one of the few PC products that does). Too much so actually lol. A good Z690 Apex that is a 2022 model is worth $450-$500 bucks used easily if you can find one. If it’s brand new, then honestly it’s worth $550-$625 because you cannot even find a brand new Z790 Apex anywhere, they are always sold out at $699.99 + Taxes. So you’ve gotta deal with scalpers. Which keep the market prices high on these boards. Clean used Asus ROG boards with all accessories in great shape fetch a premium close to what they costed when brand new. I know some had their issues, but the 2022 models resolved all of that. And they really are the best “all around” motherboards you can buy. All motherboards have their fair share of problems. I have owned (3) generations of EVGA Dark motherboards. While re-sale value on these is very poor, they had minimal surface level issues, and ran rock solid for the most part.

I think $270 is normal or fair. This is a last gen chipset motherboard Z690 Apex, and it’s used definitely not worth $800 even brand new (Maybe $500). They also had a lot of issues with the memory dimm slots. So most of the 2021 built Z690 Apex boards had poor memory overclocking. This was fixed on some boards through warranty, but definitely 100% good to go on the models built in 2022 or later. So when people buy a Z690 Asus board Hero/Apex/Formula they want it to be a 2022+ model just to certain it’s good due to this memory issue they all had.

There is not supposed to be a catch with it, just a good deal I suppose. I did put up a “Wanted add” and I had a few people respond to it. The seller apparently is buying a Z790 Apex and he is using the funds towards that. Now that I think about it. I have never owned an Asus ROG motherboard in my life... But the board is only used for SP testing. It better be solid as a rock in order to replace my trusty Unify-X, because this MSI board has been just incredible. It really gave me a new found respect for MSI.

I just bought an Asus Z690 Apex 2022 from a guy for $270.00 shipped! It has all of the covers and accessories, and he’s in the USA! 😀😀😀 Freaking awesome!!! And my 13900KS showed up. And also an SP113 global (13900K) for testing. It has a higher P-SP and E-SP than my 13900K.

Thanks! He PM’ed me back. Yeah he must be very busy. He said he’s gotta use the board in a competition or something then he can send it off.

Yeah, I really want it though! It’s a 2022 model with great memory overclocking and it’d be primarily for just cpu SP/VID checking. I PM’d the seller yesterday, no response.

Does Hwbot block PM’s or replies to FS post if you don’t have very many post on your account? There is a Z690 Apex for sale but I do not see an option to respond to the post. I sent him a PM. But I’m not even sure he got it. Could someone message him for me? He has a 2022 Apex Z690 for $300 euros.

I just purchased a brand new 13900KS from Antonline. $759.99 USD. I paid a small mark up to avoid ordering from Amazon. I feel like Amazon is a quick guarantee to get a silicon loser! 😁 We shall see how good a random sample is for a random retail 13900KS. Just in-case any of you change your mind, and decide to gamble on a retail KS too lol! I’m going to make a video about this start to finish. Ordering, delivery, unboxing, delidding, and testing! All while comparing this random (13900KS) to my P-SP121 (13900K)

I was just saying that the 40-41K is definitely not stock for 13900K and considered outside of stock power spec for Intel spec sheet. Anymore than that 253 watt is not guaranteed under warranty. Especially due to degradation etc. These are fast and hot chips though, with lots of headroom. So we delid, then direct die, and push to 45K+ R23 which is about a 27-28% bump in performance over a truly “Stock” 13900K. You can degrade a 13900K very easily though. Make sure to avoid any long term extended stress testing. Especially if you’re over that 250+ watts. It is really bad for these chips. Quick runs are a non-issue though. We’re in a new realm of chips. Their power envelopes are pushed to the max. And we don’t do stability testing like in the old days with these 2-8 hours Prime 95. I certainly would not advise it. I would overclock or undervolt, and run through all of your apps and games. And if it works it works. If it’s not stable add voltage or reduce OC etc.

You are correct, and I know they can score 41K while running 5.5Ghz ratios. But, that would be exceeding the max/default 253 watt turbo power TDP, which voids the Intel warranty as this is considered “Overclocking” With great power comes great performance. But it’s all still overclocking whether you are at 5.4Ghz all-core or not.

People say overclocking your GPU doesn’t provide much of a real world boost. Well, here’s a free 20% bump “In-Game” over a standard 3090 FE 😂

Glad I’m not stability testing then. 😎 Just running a test for merely comparison between chips is all, nothing more nothing less.

@Etern4l The 13900K scoring 40-41K is with overclocking and exceeding the stock power limits.

@Mr. Fox I’m starting to question 13900KS chips my self. I’d say buy one, and it’ll probably be good a good chip! This one is really great, but there are still better chips than this than this one out there in the wild. I may grab one retail random 13900KS my self just to see.

6.1P/4.8E/5.1R@1.315V

This chip is absolutely killer for sure. It does 6.0P/4.7E/5.2R with 1.250V in bios easily. Maybe can do less than that.

These recent Intel chips are beastly, and refresh is gonna be interesting as well! Bad sample or good they are still really great. Especially for the money. But yeah I will usually buy what’s fast or makes sense. 4090 is super fast, but it doesn’t make sense lol. I wish this 13900KS was mine though, then I’d let you get my really really good 13900K. Either of these chips are just threw the roof amazing examples of 13th gen Intel. I’m with you though on silicon quality, I wish I didn’t care about it. But since that 11900K I got from you, I’ve made it a necessity to have a good chip. It’s really fun, and it’s nice have something that overclocks really well with low temps and efficiency so easily compared to others. But, to be honest if I could go back and not care about chip quality I’d do that in a minute.

5.8P/4.7E/5.1R with 1.150V load 🤯🤯🤯 Video. This chip is STRONG.

So, a little more information. This 13900KS chip belonged to Suzuki and someone bought it from him, then they sent it to me for delid and re-seal. This thing is a monster. Better than my 13900K even. I ran 5.8P/4.8E/5.1R with 1.195V in the bios and it laughed at me. 😭

Not sure, I’ll ask the owner of the chip. If I had to guess based on the global SP, probably like SP95-SP103 E-Cores.

Here is my progress so far. I’m working today, so I can’t do much.

Been running a Supercool Gen13 on my P-SP121 13900K for a while now. It is the absolute best cooling you can ask for. Its direct die, it replaces the stock IHS with a jet plate with an acrylic top that screws directly on to the actual cpu. I am mounting the exact same thing to the 13900KS P-SP124

It is bare die, it’s getting re-sealed with a Supercool Gen 13. As for the Rockitcool copper IHS, those do not fit Thermalright frames. I have a small box of them lol. This 13900KS is P-SP124 My 13900K is P-SP121

This 13900KS is getting re-sealed with a Supercool Gen 13 IHS.